SuperCoach 2020 Estimated Prices

Written by Schwarzwalder on August 27 2019

(Written & Created By AllSaints)

When do you start planning for SuperCoach 2020?  Right…..about……now……..

Below is a SpreadSheet that lists every player and their estimated price for Season 2020.  I’ve basically applied a Magic Quotient to the pricing that is the average of the last four years’ Magic Numbers (that figure is in yellow, top right of the spreadsheet). Then the usual rules apply:

Anyone who has played 8 or more games in 2019 simply gets their 2019 ave.* the magic number

Played 7 games, get a 10% discount (no exceptions)
Played 5 or 6 games, get a 20% discount (no exceptions)
Played 3 or 4 games, get a 20-30% discount (depending on their finishing
average)
Played 1 or 2 games, it gets complicated. Discounts can vary from 20-40%,
or can be based on previous year’s average if they have a significant
injury-effected score. This bit took a while.
0 gamers, get a 30% discount, except for high-end exceptions (eg Docherty
and Mitchell) who I’ve treated how SuperCoach treated Docherty last year to
be safe (c. 19%).

Hope that all makes sense. There are a lot of rookies missing from the
list who didn’t play this year. Premium-priced rookies (ie Round1Draft
picks) should receive a 30% discount, other premium-priced rookies will
likely be reduced to the standard rookie price (eg $123 900) and anyone
priced at $123 900 or under I would expect to be reduced as low as the base
price ($102 400) in the majority of cases. There are exceptions, but I
can’t work out what they are. 😉  Enjoy!

SCT – 2020 est prices

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55 thoughts on “SuperCoach 2020 Estimated Prices”

  1. Great stuff All Saints! It’s only Tuesday and already I’m having withdrawals
    Top 3 Bargain picks
    1. Nic Nat
    Will be looking at playing the finals, should get a full preseason under his belt, should be a top 4 ruck. Will ave 100-110 at 390k can’t go past.
    2. Tom Mitchell
    Will be pissed off that Lachie Neale is challenging his possessions record, priced to ave around a 100 ,will beat that in a canter.
    3. Sam Docherty
    Knees need to hold up over the preseason but priced at 409k is worth the risk.

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      1. Grundy. Assuming he stays at Collingwood he should be a safer selection due to his tendency to amass a large amount of the ball and tackle in comparison to Gawn who is more dependent on his Hitouts.

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        1. Food for thought, Gawn did average more points per minute than Grundy, and did win the battle in both match ups against each other, so if I was to even consider starting with only one, it would be Gawn.

          I am not prepared to go into the season without Gawn & Grundy.
          Don’t wanna be missing those monster scores straight off the bat and be behind the 8 ball early on. Set and forget, simple method for mine.

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      2. Good point Thommo, I only started with one this year (Grundy) and it definitely cost me. What’s the chances of a R/F with any of the above,or are they more likely to be R/D given that Maxy falls back to fill a hole?

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        1. I would say 0 looking at their heat maps. Unfortunately, Lycett looks like losing his FWD status also 🙁

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    1. as, think rance needs to be priced on a discount basis, not his average of 36 !!! A steal at 156.7 but not likely.

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    2. zirk thatcher appears to be priced on his average, but only played one game….s/b 123.9 still ?

      I’m not looking for faults…scouring for bargains !!

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  2. Good job allsaints , pretty mediocre year for me so I started thinking next year about 3 weeks ago.
    Thanks for this and other info you provide to the group.
    On another note bowls season is almost upon us , are you playing this season?

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    1. Boo.
      Not gonna play again this year Bruce. Do you have any decent tournies down your way?! We have a pairs, triples or fours group itching for a weekend away 😉
      That stuff I’m up for as a one-off but the boy’s growing up quick, so weekends will be focused on him for a few years now. Well, him and SuperCoach 😉

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      1. Good stuff AS , our kids grow up quickly , just had my first grandchild last friday.
        Our big tournament for the year is Good Friday , but I will let you know of any others, cheers.

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        1. Congratulations Bruce!

          olibryant at the gmail train. Don’t use that old address anymore.
          That’s the one day we host a big tournie up here. You’re more than welcome (fours).
          Otherwise let’s find an alternative. Would be fun for sure 🙂

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    1. Doedee was a big loss for them.

      They lost Lever and Doedee filled in that role, then he got injuried this year.

      Modern game is a lot about intercept marks in the back half and hurt them on the rebound.

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      1. Exactly, GP. He fits that bill perfectly, not to mention he scored 56 SC from 27% TOG in R1!

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      1. Yeah, will be similar to Darcy Moore this year- with the added benefit of having a much higher ceiling. Gonna be on the look-out for other players in that vein.

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          1. Word that Harley Bennell might be picked up by the Swans. A certain starter at rookie price.

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    2. Me too GD. I was gonna hide him from the list!! 😉
      He scored 56pts in just over a QTR before going down. Unleash the beast!

      I’ve been told there are a couple of errors (Rance and S Hill FRE). Will post correct estimates later. I know what happened and they are wrong!! My bad.

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      1. Doedee may also be wrong for the same reasons as the above two. More likely prices are:

        Tom DOEDEE, $312 300
        Alex RANCE, $313 700, and
        Stephen HILL is actually correctly priced, based on their system, but they may alter it as two of his 3 scores were injury-effected. We’ll see.

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        1. Lol, 234k did seem shockingly low. I’ll still start him at that revised price though, assuming he starts in an SC conducive role and looks to be moving fine in the pre-season/JLT.

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          1. Me too. If he turns out to be a trap, correct him with a rookie who plays his first game in Rd2 and bank the cash will prices drop and cash is inflates!
            More on that later. With graphs and stuff!

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  3. I thought it was:

    10% or less for 7 games or fewer after being injured
    20% for full season
    30% or 40% for 2 seasons worth of injury (Docherty)

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    1. I’ve cross-checked all sorts of theories based on previous years’ pricing and this is the closest I can get with few fails. ie the premise doesn’t stand.
      I’m 100% certain that the pricing equations are right for all 4+ game players, but the validity on 3 or less is harder simply because there are too many variables (eg injuries, TOGs etc).
      0 games are a lot easier, but even then, SC tends to throw out something new each year.
      Hutta pointed out Naitanui last year as a valid example of where I’d got it wrong, and then Docherty was treated differently again.
      It is here more as a guide for pricing out your 9/10/11 uber picks to see what you’re left with.
      The rest will always have to wait until JLT series, decent rookie numbers, by position and how you’re gonna approach the last few holes you’re confronted with.

      Thanks for the feedback and I will posit those theories against the data and see what comes out.

      Will let you know.

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  4. Big Max is 100-1 for the brownlow , that cant be right can it, anyways with all these betting establishments now i suggest throwing what you have put away on him to finish top ten and a bit less on top 5 and a bit less to win it.
    My mail is the little bloke from the bombers may not get back on the plane after this week.

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  5. what about your bloke R.Marshall allsaints – any chance he gets DPP Ruck/Fwd for 2020 or is he likely to lose Fwd and be Ruck only?

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      1. Dunkley 99% sure MID only.
        Danger is on the edge I’d say. Need him to spend some significant time FWD through Finals. Could be close!

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    1. very well priced that’s for sure. but has some significant issues to contend with.

      would be both weird and upsetting to see him in other colours though.

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    1. Dark green are Premo performers based on position
      110+ for MIDs and RUCs
      100+ for DEFs and FWDs
      Light green:
      MIDS @ 100+

      I did this to look at # of premos by club.

      There is also another tab in the spreadsheet that shows:
      ave SC pts by club, and
      # of players used by each club in 2019

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  6. Cheers AS this is amazing! I hope these prices stand up next year. Doc and Titch have probably been on everyone’s radars for 2020 so the discounted prices are tantalising.

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  7. Also, any thoughts on DPP status for 2020? I reckon quite a few mid/fwd players are going to lose DPP and become mid only. We’re going to lose a handful like Dunkley, Danger, Kelly etc.

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      1. Question off the back of GD for the entire Community I guess…

        Are SC player positions based upon HA season only, or do preseason/postseason also come into play?

        I had never thought of this before, just assumed it was HA season only (similar to player pricing).

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          1. Also for players that missed the majority or entirety of the season it can be based on their positioning in their state affiliates.

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  8. I reckon they pull a Docherty like move for titch. I reckon he could be about 580k at least. Otherwise as if you wouldn’t start him. Even at 600k you probably start him if fit and all that

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