2013 Byes



Are You Shaw?

by Motts on April 20, 2012

He’s only supposed to be out for 2 weeks but hammies worry supercoaches more than probably any other injury because of their tendency to recur.

This issue is especially pertinent for SCTTL coaches.

So if you’ve got him, what are you doing with him?

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Jester April 20, 2012 at 9:20 am

I do not know what is going on a Collingwood … its a mystery of intrigue.
For the record I will probably stick with him as I hope they are foxing … Fingers crossed I see him out there on ANZAC day.
C’mon Heater do a StevieJ!!

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Max April 20, 2012 at 9:31 am

Thanks for the Poll Motts!
For my main team I will not be trading him out. He will 99 per cent be in the top 10 defenders at years end IMO. I won’t cop a donut and don’t want to waste trades.

But a totally different story with my SCTT league team. I will be using an aggressive trading strategy. I have to trade out on of Smedts, Lake or Shaw to avoid Donut so will trade Shaw.

With the SCTT league, how about next year we have a promotion/relegation system. EG winner of SCTTL 2 get promoted to SCTTL 1. And the loser of SCTTL 2 relegated to SCTTL 3. Just an idea.

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Mouseman April 20, 2012 at 10:41 am

same boat as me as I’m sure with many others also. He is getting the chop in the SCTT league for me also.
Who will it be? Who knows!

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deano April 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Max

The SCTTL is for overall points not leagues so it doesn’t matter what league you’re in.

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Max April 20, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Deano, true. But it still could work.

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D Mac April 20, 2012 at 9:50 am

I wonder if they’re just resting up for anzac day like Jester said earlier.
Pretty stiff playing satie then following up wednesday.

Would be interesting to see if they magically “get up” for it.

I cant see Bucks being that under handed though.

Very big outs for Pies, even bigger for SC. Almost selected Shaw in my starting line up to. Spewing he didnt do it mid game so his price crashed. Wouldve been a great upgrade.

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Gimmeguitars April 20, 2012 at 10:09 am

Changed my mind (us girls like to do that, apparently).
I feel I had no other choice- with Lake and Shaw out, and the combination of Darley not getting a game (was just going to slot him on-field to avoid a donut, but nah of course that’d be too easy, wouldn’t it?!).

Option one:
* Put Shaw on the bench, then upgrade Lake to Fisher.
* Swap Fyfe back to forward line, put Pavlich into my mids for him.
* Then trade out Fyfe for Treloar to fund the Lake upgrade.
* Treloar has a good b/e so should make me some money.
So this enables me to bank $200k to get M.Murphy hopefully ASAP. Probably by swinging a Dusty trade via the mids if he doesn’t pull his socks up in the next week or two- bleeding $$ ATM.

Option two:
* Downgrade Shaw –> Marty Clarke
* Then Fyfe (mids) to Barlow/Hayes.
Means I lose my mid/fwd link AND meant downgrading 2 premiums for 1 rookie and either of 2 fallen premiums.
Money in the bank: $389, 600 (Barlow) or $377, 100 (Hayes).

-Thoughts anyone? T.I.A.

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Jester April 20, 2012 at 10:46 am

It is brain-killer GG, what to do. Both options have risks but desprate times call for desperate measures. If Fyfe plays I am inclined to hold him because I know it will hurt if I trade him and then see a 100+ score.

Have you considered Darley to another rookie you may not have? Ellis, Morris, Mohr?

Would you consider Shaw to a gun like Scotland?

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Gimmeguitars April 20, 2012 at 10:54 am

The only rook I don’t have there is Mohr and I don’t have enough money in the bank to go Darley to Mohr. Therefore I don’t have enough cash to go Shaw to Scotland :(

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Jester April 20, 2012 at 11:12 am

Darn! How about … Shaw to Fisher? Carrazo? Hurn? Dare I say Broughton?

If Fyfe is withdrawn, option one sounds good and cross your fingers that Treloar plays next week.

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gimmeguitars April 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm

I think there’s more value in option one but thanks for your feedback, I do appreciate it!

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Darren April 20, 2012 at 3:01 pm

How about Shaw to M. Johnson from Freo, save cash and he is a DPP and averaging quite well

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Dazz April 20, 2012 at 10:28 am

Ill be waiting a week or 2 and if his not right ill trade

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Matteo April 20, 2012 at 10:32 am

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Mouseman April 20, 2012 at 10:44 am

gee, there are a lot of itchy fingers out there and its only round 4

Calm down people

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Matteo April 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm

I was never planning to trade him someone just mentioned it to me and got me thinking. No trades for me this week unless fyfe is out, it’ll be a fyfevto sidebum

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The Big Fella April 20, 2012 at 10:43 am

Just had an epiphany of sorts RE: Heath Shaw (2 Weeks)
Is it –

Thumbs Up – 2 Weeks as in 2 games (Using the old lingo)?
Thumbs Down – 2 Weeks as in 2 calendar weeks. Meaning 3 Games?

*Had $430k stored away for this week in particular (League Rivalry – Bets and Friendships on the line) This is a huge headache as my opponent has no Shaw. So it may force my hand.

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FootyFan April 20, 2012 at 11:50 am

He is listed as “expected return round 6″ ….meaning 2 games out.

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Dazz April 20, 2012 at 10:49 am

One of my opponents have got Shaw,Dempsey and Lake

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Omen April 20, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Didn’t someone say Dempsey’s hamstring was ok?

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Jester April 20, 2012 at 10:51 am

Welcome to the Supercoach merry-go-round.

Last week those who traded Lake wondered if they made the right call while those who held him were grinning. This week the tables are turned.

Last week some with Broughton wished they had Shaw. This week the tables are turned.

Who knows what will happen next week.

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Yiorgakis April 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

Jester, you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t.

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the RAINMAN April 20, 2012 at 3:58 pm

what if u had broughton and shaw ): ?

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Jester April 20, 2012 at 5:08 pm

You may well be about to loose your mind.

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Leo Messi April 20, 2012 at 10:57 am

Shaw, Lake,Goodes, Fyfe,C Smith,Smedts,Redden, Ellis* all in my team…..and goalless at Stamford Bridge
I feel a rant coming on !!!!

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Jester April 20, 2012 at 11:14 am

Same for me but add Greene and remove Lake & Smedts.

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Happy Go Lucky April 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Not goalless anymore ;)

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JuddyButNotTHEJuddy April 20, 2012 at 11:11 am

Who would you pick if you were going to upgrade in your backline
H.Scotland-thumbs up
A.Carrazzo-thumbs down

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MegaMan April 20, 2012 at 11:15 am

I will be trading him out. Shaw will miss 2 minimum and when he comes back he has a very high BE so will lose significant cash.

I plan to trade out shaw and hope he gets down to a nice juicy price come cow cashing time.

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Catta April 20, 2012 at 11:21 am

I’m yet to make an official trade this season but boy o boy, have I been giving the reversible trade option an absolute flogging in the last 24 hours.

I’m thinking of doing my 1st trades as I’m in a similar situation with Leo Messi with several out’s this week via injury or suspension.

H Shaw to Birchell
Cameron to Treloar… I just feel both these trades hold better JS throughout the season

Thumbs up……..good trades just do it
Thumbs down….take a few donuts this week & keep your 24 trades at bay

Cheers SCT coaches

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Dazz April 20, 2012 at 11:32 am

Do the trade Catta IMO your doin well to still have 24 trades ive got 21 trades left.btw congrats over ya dreamteam wins over Dazza’s Allstars.Not having GAJ as captain cost me big time but well coached by yaself.

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Catta April 20, 2012 at 11:52 am

Cheers Dazz, on the Friday night I looked at both our teams & I thought….the ONLY way I’ll beat him is due to the captain choice. Your team is very balanced & with the right captain choice you’ll smash out some huge scores this season in DT.

Good luck for the rest of the season Dazz.

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Scatts April 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Catta who,s your captain this week ?

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Catta April 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Hahahahahahahaha,

Been thinking Goddard but the Friday curse has scared me off, down to 3 choices

Selwood at the Cattery v Tigers
Gazza sniffing a win in the Q clash
Pendles making up for his game last week

Desicions decisions…..1 of these 3 Scatts

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jimbo April 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Shaw – Birchall good trade.

But with Treloar if you can wait a week with that trade that would be good as he isn’t on the bubble and if you dont really need him then there is no loss. It gives you an extra week to see how he goes and see if he is named next week. You never know he could get injured or spud it up and not get recalled by Sheeds.

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Scatts April 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Catta ,Ive got a feeling your going with the little master this week ?
Catta ,renton roberts might be a better captains choice ?. hahaha

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Catta April 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Funny thing as a response Relton did cross my mind, It’s hard to go past the little master Gazza…………. or is it!!

You’ll have to wait till 7.51 for any surprises Scatts!

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Catta April 20, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Very true regarding Treloar Jimbo, I like your thinking!

SEN just mentioned that there are rumors surfacing, that Birchall didn’t get on the plane to Perth for the WC game……that could spell trouble with a capital T for the already short defence of the Hawks!

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dansmen April 20, 2012 at 11:28 am

I just want to say that Matt Windley and Glenn McFarlane have no idea! Thank god for SCT! Also on the Shaw matter I know its risky but a Shaw to Geary trade as backs scoring is very unstable and get the cashola ready for the rookie – pendles trade next week or the week after is firming for me.

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Davo April 20, 2012 at 11:41 am

PS: Rumour has it that both Shaw and Thomas said during the week that they miss Malthouse and have been dropped for the next 2 games (The will break out come early next week!)

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Big Sexy April 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm

I have also heard a rumor about these two, but will refrain as just a rumor at this stage….

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JuddyButNotTHEJuddy April 20, 2012 at 12:29 pm

You shouldn’t have said anything at all now I am going to be wondering forever just like I was with Motts and his Dan Swan let down.

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deano April 20, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Rumour I heard was that FIGJAM has had them scheduled for lobotomies in order to forget MM.
Apparently Swanny was due to join them but the neurosurgeon is having difficultlies locating a frontal cortex.

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deano April 20, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Latest is that Heater could be out for three. Surgeon is having difficulty finding any cortex.

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Omen April 20, 2012 at 2:49 pm

That’s the hardest I’ve laughed in a long time!

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BigMolly April 20, 2012 at 12:19 pm

I’m keeping Shaw. Traded Fyfe, swapped Smedts to forward line, bought Carrazzo.
Am risking a fat 0 if Brandon Ellis doesn’t play, plus i’m playing my older brother whose team has been getting about 70 – 80 points less than me. I’m missing Goodes, Lake and Shaw (he’s only missing Lake) as well as some rooks that I have coverage for.
I’ve already made 3 trades and i’m sticking fat with the decision of riding this out, at the possible and crushing expense of losing to my older brother. Have to focus on the whole season and keep that trade (rather than trading Shaw out). THINK BIG!!

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Omen April 20, 2012 at 2:51 pm

Wise choice BM. Always let the voice of the long term be the last voice you hear.

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Leeroy April 20, 2012 at 12:19 pm

Thinking of dumping Fyfe and D Martin this week
With 300k in the bank I can:

Thumbs up: bring in 2 of Judd / Mitchell / Del Santo / Murphy immediately etc

Thumbs down: bring in Hayes and McDonald with good value increases to come and be sitting on $700k to upgrade Lake, Hargreave, Bugg, M Clarke in coming weeks

Other points: strategy is load on round 13 bye players (league win is my goal so this means I should be strong on 11 and 12) so Hayes sits with that. I am also a little exposed with Robbie Gray so with Gray, Martin and Fyfe to lose money and be in a right pickle if I sit still?

Comments: any advice please! Much appreciated

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Mouseman April 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm

Murphy & Mitchell

Do it!

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FireFly April 20, 2012 at 2:16 pm

What about Fyfe > Murphy or J.Selwood and Martin > Hawkins !?
Murphy guaranteed gun, great draw for next 7 games, R13 Bye
Selwood guaranteed gun, great draw for next 7 games, 40k cheaper
Hawkins set to increase $$, great Avg for a forward comparatively and should be a keeper.
Wait til McDonald plays his 2nd game this weekend, then consider.
I’m not sold on Hayes

This’ll leave you roughly the same $300k in the bank which you can use to upgrade to Pendlebury in 1-2 weeks when he bottoms out to around $615k.

I’m in exactly the same spot of bother and its what i’ve done anyway!

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The Big Fella April 20, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Don’t focus on the position. Focus on the Points Investment.
If you can get 2 blokes averaging 130 for one who averages 110 and is injured and another averaging 75, its a no brainer. No point getting in Hayes and McDonald now if you are only going to off load them at a later date. Skip those middle 2 trades and just go straight to the big fish.

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Nicko April 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm

Yet another reason why I’m loving my decision to avoid Collingwood players early this season. -Barring Marty Clarke ofcourse. But thats paying off so far haha

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Davo April 20, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Just a rumor Juddy, I just find it a bit weird that 2 stars from the 1 team both do hamstrings during the same training session.

Collingwood have 2 games in the space of 4 days so you would think training loads would have been reduced, sounds a bit dodgy to me.

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AndyB April 20, 2012 at 3:28 pm

I’m with you Davo. Something not quite right, especially with the we love Mick stuff going on.

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Omen April 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Pendlebury doesn’t have himself in his own SC team. Maybe some inside info there?

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Trooroo April 20, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Ive gone shaw to enright. Had to many possible zeros in the side.. Lake shaw ellis fyfe goodes redden. Lol not alot of cover either.
Premium player just had a few ordinary rounds. He WILL dominate this week haha

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gavsta April 20, 2012 at 4:14 pm

I think the reason they are out for 2 weeks is becasue they play on wednesday, if it was a normal weekend game i think thomas and shaw would both play.

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