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BS Rookie Review Round 4

by Big Sexy on April 24, 2012

My Top Five Rookie’s (<$200k) of the week:
1)    J McDonald (Mid 106k) Old McDonald had a cash cow, ei, ei-o.  After a two week hiatus due to a round 1 indiscretion, the experienced former Melbourne Captain will get plenty of games this year but also sure to get a rest like every other rookie.  However, his bigger body and experience in a small-bodied, inexperienced team is sure to see him stand out.  His first two games have reinforced his ability to score with 100 and 78 in his first two. 

Side note:  I wonder if Melb now wished they hadn’t forced McDonald to retire, and treated Cameron Bruce with some respect, and perhaps given Brad Miller a hug.  All three are better that most of the rubbish they are putting out on the paddock now.

2)    A Treloar (Mid/Fwd 113k) The GWS rookie factory just keeps pumping them out, and Treloar from the Dandenong Stingrays may be one of the best.  Treloar has picked up 17 and 18 disposals in his first two games and his dual position capability makes him hard to resist.  Treloar has scored back-to-back 76’s which is as good as any of the kids we have seen this year.

3)    S Shaw (Def 113k) Shaw has only played the one game, and Shaw/sure it was only against GWS but he picked up 13 disposals and layed 3 tackles.  Shaw scored 71 in his first hit-out and with not many other cheap rookie defenders up for grabs Shaw is a good option if you need a defender and he is a 193cm and plays a key defensive role.  He has been dogged by injury in his first few years in the system and finally makes his debut.  I wouldn’t rush out and trade him in unless you are desperate, so lets see how he goes next week.  

4)    A Miles (Mid 113k) I had Miles in my pre-season team, but his non-selection forced a change, but now he has one game under his belt and picked up 15 disposals and layed an incredible 6 tackles resulting in a first up score of 74.  Let’s see how he goes this week.

5)    D Pfeiffer (Mid/Fwd 126k) I broke one of my personal rules at the start of the season by naming Pfeiffer I was that confident he would get a game early.  The one way I could force him to get a game was to trade him out which I did a week ago.  Pfeiffer is a mature age rookie playing in a very average team.  He picked up 20 disposals with 3 tackles and a goal in his first game scoring him 64 points.  Let’s see how he rolls this week (Oh, and his mum did a great job playing cat-woman in the Batman movie)
 
Here is the rookie data:

R4 SC SC Average Games Player Pos Price Team
78 89 2 J McDonald Mid $106k GWS
83 80 4 T Bugg Def $239k GWS
66 79 4 J Magner Mid $228k MELB
74 74 1 A Miles Mid $113k GWS
73 73 2 A Treloar Mid/Fwd $113k GWS
88 73 4 J Hombsch Def $228k GWS
40 71 4 A Kennedy Mid/Fwd $219k GWS
71 71 1 S Shaw Def $113k ADEL
61 67 4 T Milera Fwd $215k STK
74 65 4 T Mohr Def $204k GWS
64 64 1 D Pfeiffer Mid/Fwd $126k PORT
53 62 2 T Gillies Def $176k GEEL
80 62 4 S Morris Def $211k RICH
69 61 4 D Shiel Mid $210k GWS
55 60 4 D Smith Mid/Fwd $213k GWS
26 58 4 I Folau Fwd $123k GWS
58 58 1 J Crisp Mid $94k BRIS
67 58 2 B Martin Def $199k ADEL
83 58 4 B Ellis Def $198k RICH
56 53 4 A Hall Mid/Fwd $177k GC
46 50 3 A Tomlinson Def/Fwd $180k GWS
42 44 2 B Smedts Fwd/Def $113k GEEL
17 42 4 C Wingard Mid $185k PORT
33 42 3 J Newnes Mid $134k STK
64 40 4 C Hampton Mid/Fwd $142k GWS
39 39 1 J Stringer Mid $113k GEEL
24 37 3 J Paine Fwd/Def $127k COLL
25 37 2 A Cordy Ruck $180k WBD
25 35 4 J Townsend Def $141k GWS
33 33 1 S Edwards Def $113k GWS
32 32 1 C Dell’Olio Fwd $94k ESS
34 32 4 J Cripps Fwd $155k STK
14 30 2 G Horin-Smith Fwd $113k GEEL
27 27 1 L Neale Mid $106k FREO
41 26 3 P Seedsman Mid $117k COLL
35 25 2 S Day Fwd $185k GC
7 7 1 B Hill Mid $106k HAW
DNP 5 1 S Kerridge Fwd/Mid $106k ADEL
DNP 85 1 B Longer Ruck $161k BRIS
DNP 6 1 P Yagmoor Def $106k COLL
DNP 40 3 J Mellington Fwd  $178k FREO
DNP 35 1 D Gorringe Ruck $192k GC
DNP 58 3 S Coniglio Mid $217k GWS
DNP 38 3 J Cameron Fwd $133k GWS
DNP 52 2 W Hoskin-Elliott Mid $181k GWS
DNP 18 2 N Wilson Fwd $113k GWS
DNP 17 2 D Tyson Mid $186k GWS
DNP 17 1 J Boumann Def $113k HAW
DNP 43 1 J Tynan Def $106k MELB
DNP 79 1 C Delaney Def $113k NM
DNP 67 3 J Redden Ruck $171k PORT
DNP 17 1 T Ledger Mid $113k STK
DNP 5 1 H Cunningham Mid $94k SYD
DNP 53 3 C Smith Mid $155k WBD
DNP 34 2 T Dickson Fwd $106k WBD
DNP 81 1 K Stevens Mid $135k WCE
DPN 48 2 O Stephenson Ruck $106k GEEL

 

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D Mac April 24, 2012 at 11:38 am

Great work again BS :-)

As for Bruce…the dee’s can have him back!!!!

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Big Sexy April 24, 2012 at 12:11 pm

Fair call on Bruce since his move, but he was always one of the Dees stronger contributors, and may have kept form if he stayed.

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ARC April 24, 2012 at 11:38 am

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Mouseman April 24, 2012 at 11:40 am

What is the general view on downgrading Ablett to Treloar this week?

Fair enough you are using two trades but IF Ablett misses 2-3 weeks you will be milking Treloar and you can then bring Gaz back in for someone like Magner/Shiel in 2-3 weeks time who both should have increased in value a tidy sum.

If you havent used many trades so far I think its something worth considering.

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Brad April 24, 2012 at 11:40 am

Get Trelor now before price rise TU
Wait , see what shakes out with Miles TD
Comment – Old Mac better option than both ?

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Catta April 24, 2012 at 5:00 pm

Old Mac has a BE of -113 Brad, on top of this he has a mature body that won’t start feeling the hard knocks by mid-season!

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jimbo drouid April 24, 2012 at 12:41 pm

guys dont panic. by now you should be settled on your premiums and rookies.

dont go chasing shadows. keep the rookies until the average points per game is lower than their break even score. then they are nearing their peak $$ amount.

i still think ablett is keen to get back after just 1 week. his preparation and recovery skills are second to no-one. if it is at possible to get back in a week, then gary can.

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Leo Messi April 24, 2012 at 12:45 pm

Interesting dilemma we’re faced with this week….

Old Mac and Treloar ready for a price rise yet no real cows are ready to be fully cashed yet….

Miss the boat on the above two or just make sideways trades on dead wood on your pine or little money on some active rookies?????

Ive got 24 trades left….

Thumbs up – trade Old Mac for Coniglio/C Smith and Treloar for Dickson

Thumbs down – Hold off

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Firefly April 24, 2012 at 3:11 pm

You sort of answered your own question above by saying you’d be $80k short and wouldn’t be able to get Pendles, if you cashed in now. Therefore the advice (thumbs down) was solid because you’ll have to wait for the cows to fatten a bit more.
LM’s poll is different. It doesn’t take Pendlebury into account and given the 24 trades left it might be worth chasing Jmac’s coin or treloars coin & DPP.
Add any injuries (or any other factors) into the poll question and it might be a totally different result again.

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underrated April 24, 2012 at 4:57 pm

so we really shouldn’t be side swapping cash cows, unless they’re not playing at all?
I have Coniglio, C.Smith and Neale who all should be getting games, with the odd rest inbetween…..but im gonna see if Smith is selected

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Jester April 24, 2012 at 2:08 pm

If C.Smith and Dickson are not selected this week then I would go with thumbs up.

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Sam April 24, 2012 at 12:45 pm

Im giving the trelOr to ablett serious consideration. By the time he is back cash cows will be ready for milking.

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Mouseman April 24, 2012 at 12:48 pm

The only thing holding me back could be the status of 211 & Fyfe.

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Jester April 24, 2012 at 2:10 pm

I think I will downgrade Fyfe to Treloar then upgrade a mid/rookie in the next week or two. I hope Greene and C.Smith play because I need them to cover Gaz.

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DV8HSV April 24, 2012 at 3:59 pm

I have got 23 trades Paine,Smedts,Darley reluctant to trade any of them yet!!
With the likes of Miles,(whome was in gws reserves best two weeks running prior to selection) Shaw,Neal the cash cows are sure to keep coming,
So unless donuts are imminent think I will hold off although Treloar and JMac look very tempting.
Didn’t Neal look the goods even though you could mistake him for an u/16

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Andy B April 24, 2012 at 6:54 pm

Paine has been dropped this week & his scores have been low in his 3 games so far. Trading Paine (as forward) out to get Treloar is worth a trade not only because he will earn you more money & be a better cash cow, but also because he is more likely to get you 75 points when he does play. Treloar is also a M/F DPP which is also very handy.

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DV8HSV April 24, 2012 at 8:02 pm

I am considering it especially because his price rise was only 20gs,he will need to play atleast 3 more games to make any decent coin, with his performance on the weekend i can’t see that in the near future.
Without all teams released I would be just taking a punt Treloar is definantly playing and not out with gs or something rediculous.

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underrated April 24, 2012 at 4:02 pm

I have 20 trades left, making 1 and 1 only this week, i feel the need to get old mac, however….
Thumbs Up- Old Mac for Coniglio/Clay Smith or Neale
Thumbs Down- Dusty Martin for Dahlhaus
or should i sit tight, i have lots of money in the bank 470k
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Hugh G. Rexion April 24, 2012 at 6:58 pm

jus hold tight on Dusty. u dont pick him to make u $$$, thats what the rookies are for.. forget his price drop. tough games 1st up, he will come gd..

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underrated April 24, 2012 at 7:22 pm

yeah that what i was thinking, i get greedy with the money, bad habit!
Is it worth side swapping a cash cow?
eg. Old Mac for Coniglio/Clay Smith or Neale
im leaning towards clay smith, if neale gets picked, thoughts?

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Hugh G. Rexion April 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm

i have side traded Ledger to McDonald and Dickson to Treloar.. but thats the only trades so far.. pure cash move.

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underrated April 24, 2012 at 4:03 pm

But i think i will defs bring in pendles next week so could do Coniglio for Pendles for R6

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jimbo drouid April 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm

saw this rumour on twitter…any truth to it?

aarontmeadowsaarontmeadows: @jock_reynolds @DTTALK Rumour has it @heathshaw39 is set to play vs @Essendon_FC in tomorrows #AnzacDay Match #aflpiesdons

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James April 24, 2012 at 4:43 pm

I know this isnt the right section to ask this but what is everyone doing with Sandilands?

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jimbo April 24, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Wait till teams are announced or medical report comes out. We can’t predict the future without information. He may play this week. He may miss one week. In either case keep. Trades are gold and if a premium isn’t LTI then keep them even if down in form as everyone is falling like flies with injuries.

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DoubleD April 24, 2012 at 5:35 pm

I’ve got to move Gray and Carrots on. Thinking of down grading to grab Treloar/Old Mac. This will leave me with pots O money for upgrades in the next week or two. I will however effectively be tanking in my league match this week. My opponent looks like they have me covered even if I did one sideways trade and I’m not willing to do two sideways after last weeks effort.( shaw to carrots and mummy to 211. Really dumb with hindsight, I know).
My side will be weak for a week or two but I can see the upside of that money in the bank.
Thumbs up. Take the hit this week, bank the money. Trade gray/carrots to Mac/Treloar.
Thumbs down. Trade one sideways to keep a balanced team. Eg Gray/carrots to lewis/Mac.
Either way I reckon I’ll lose this week

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Omen April 24, 2012 at 11:48 pm

Thumbs up for tanking… what hath become of us?

I smell Pendlebury.

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Omen April 25, 2012 at 1:21 am

How do you effect the trade from Carrazzo (from DEF) to McDonald (MID)?

I know you’re supposed to be able to do the tricky swap thing with Carrazzo’s DEF/MID but can’t work out how its done.

SC Help says you can trade out (for example) a MID player, then sub the DPP to “the position left vacant by the MID” but as far as I can see, once you trade out the MID, there’s no vacant position cause its filled with the player you trade him for…

Confused… If anyone’s done this, please help with instructions.

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Double D April 25, 2012 at 10:58 am

I could do it using goddard from the mids. I,ll now have both goddard and Delidio in defence, losing the ability to swap them but can regain this by trading out a mid cow soon, swapping goddard back to the mids and putting a new premium in defence

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slim April 24, 2012 at 6:42 pm

whats the go with the captain loophole?

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jimbo drouid April 24, 2012 at 7:07 pm

great question slim. I assume it does. can anyone else advise?

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Brad April 24, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Here’s the go

Name a coll or Ess player VC
Slap the C on a non playing player eg Gazza
Ensure you name a playing bench player E ON THE SAME LNE AS YOUR “C” eg Shiel
If your Coll or Ess player does well just leave as is
If your Coll or Ess player has a stinker , change your C to another player , say Murphy or the like

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DV8HSV April 24, 2012 at 8:05 pm

I always thought you could just put a c on a bench player even if they were playing not have to have a player not playing.

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Brad April 24, 2012 at 8:13 pm

For the loop hole to work you must have a player not playing that particular round . You cannot put a C on a bench player

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Ollie April 24, 2012 at 9:20 pm

Only used 2 trades. I like Caddy, but he isn’t serving me well! His break even this week is 42, 11 less than his average of 53. I know that as soon as I trade him out, he will score a big score… And if Dickson is named, I might not get rid of him.

Thinking of going:

Caddy —> Mcdonald
and
Dickson —> Treloar

Thoughts on these trades?

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slim April 24, 2012 at 9:30 pm

Cheers brad! nice work. Thumbs up

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REPLY April 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Should i get Treloar or Mcdonald?

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Ollie April 24, 2012 at 10:02 pm

Mcdonald IMO – because of A) older, maturer body and B) lower BE this week.

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Powerhouse April 24, 2012 at 10:08 pm

both?? or u’ll miss the boat.

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Omen April 24, 2012 at 11:39 pm

There’s no harm in using a few early trades to get yourself a shed full of cash cows.

Through the season, you only need to get another 7 premium players to “fill your 22″. You’ll hopefully end up with lines full of premiums to compete in finals. In the end, you’ll be happy with (6D, 6M, 2R, 6F) premiums with a couple of high performing rookie/mid pricer (“Keepers”) to fill the last on-field positions in either line – D7, M6, F7).

Let’s say those 7 Premiums cost you 2 trades each (one downgrade cow to make $, one upgrade cow > premium). That’s a total of 14 trades. Choose carefully and you can slaughter two cows at around $300-350K, achieve your upgrade target and still have a bench rookie who’ll play games and give you emergency cover (who knows, one might even become a Keeper).

From your starting 24 trades that leaves you with 10 in the bag to use on occasions such as:

1. Early rookie reshuffle – to ensure your sheds are full of quality fresh meat, playing games, making money, low break even (4 trades – Rds 1-5).

2. LTI injuries (3 trades – any more and you can consider your SC year over. If you don’t absolutely have to use them to avoid working for the rest of your life in a doughnut factory, save them, forever!).

3. Sideways, shadow-chasing, stupidity (2 trades – sometimes you just can’t avoid that brain fade moment… again.

4. Grandfinal trade (1 trade – pull out a little piece of trading magic on Grandfinal eve!)

If you’re smart, patient and extremely lucky, you’ll have 6 trades left for the finals.

Happy Trading.
:mrgreen:

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Hugh G. Rexion April 24, 2012 at 11:45 pm

i like that Omen.. Very gd right up..pretty sweet guide to go by..

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Omen April 25, 2012 at 12:17 am

Thanks HGR. It’s an adaptation of a strategy I learned from an old gambler, many years ago, he told me…

You’ve got to know when to hold ‘em,
Know when to milk ‘em,
Know when to walk away,
Know when to limp…

You never count your trades,
When its early in the season,
They’ll be time enough for countin’
When it’s half way done.

Now, every SCTer knows,
That the secret to survivin’
Is knowin’ what to throw away,
Knowin’ what to keep.

‘Cause every rookie’s a winner,
And every rookie’s a loser,
And the best that you can hope for,
Is to die in your sleep.

You’ve got to know when to trade ‘em,
Know when to blade ‘em,
Know when to stay away,
Know when to run.

You never count your rookies,
When a cash cow’s on the bubble.
There’ll be time enough for tradin’
When the team sheet’s done.

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Double D April 25, 2012 at 11:03 am

Nice work Omen. I,ve already used my two stupids, and this week two LTI,s. Better get it right from here

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jimbo drouid April 25, 2012 at 11:07 am

guys, who do you think i should start on ground, milera and hall?

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TC April 25, 2012 at 11:14 am

I’ve used more trades than I wanted to but feel I can’t miss the Treloar/Old Mac boat. Only want to use 1 trade this week to snare one of these guys.
Is Treloar over Old Mac worth it for the FWD/MID link which I do not currently have?

Trading out Ledger-> Old Mac/Treloar

Thumbs up – Ledger to McDonald (older mature body/no FWD/MID link)
Thumbs down – Ledger to Treloar (creating FWD/MID link)

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