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BS Rookie Review Round 4

by Big Sexy on April 19, 2011

As it’s a Bye week and trades will be limited, the Rook Review is not as comprehensive as I would like…. but hey….

My Top Five Rookie’s (<$200k) of the week:
1) M Coad (Def 123k) Many Supercoachers jumped on Coady in the pre-season, and with good reason. In Supercoach terms, you can’t go past mature-age recruits and this 27yo is one to grab on before his price goes through the roof. His first two game saw him get 20 and 14 disposals respectively. Coad scored 80 on the weekend in a ‘solid’ performance in a very poor team. .
2) J Toy (Def 110k) Toy like Coad was fighting for a spot in many SC teams before round 1. I personally went with Toy, but it was really a coin toss. I think Toy is a few years off really developing, and I feel will develop into a champion in-time (I’m talking 3-5 years). The biggest positive for Toy, like Coad, is the team he plays in… priority is developing youth and there will be opportunity that he probably wouldn’t get in any other team this early. He had 12 and 16 possessions in his first two games respectively, and improved in his second game with a score of 65.
3) D Gorringe (Ruck 143k) What colour are his shoes? (that was for you Ry). I don’t know that Gorringe will spend that much time in the Ruck despite his 200cm as I feel he is behind both Fraser and Smith, this means he’s a key-position big man, which can be tough for an 18yo….. but again, it’s his team…. So I hear opportunity knocking. Gorringe was recruited from Norwood in SA, and went at 10 in the National draft. He had 15 and 9 possessions in his first two games and scored 60 SC points in the weekend shellacking by the Demon.
4) D Grimes (Def 111k) Grimes played his first game in R22 of 2010, and has played the last two for the Tiggers. He’s definitely a ‘Project Player’, and has had 8 disposals in each of his first two games and scored 54 SC points this week.
5) D Prestia (Mid/Fwd 176k) I’m leaving Prestia in my top five from last week following a ‘massive’ score of 40 against the Dee’s for three reasons: 1, He is a DPP which can be valuable for many. 2, He’s still reasonably priced. 3, There aren’t too many Mid or Fwds making their debut worth jumping on, so that leaves the door open for Prestia to get a second run.

Here is the rookie data for you to analyse in your spare time, and form your own opinions:

R4 SC SC Average Games Player Pos Price Team
107 82 4 N Duigan Def 227k CARL
99 80 4 J Darling Fwd 214k WCE
95 79 3 D Swallow Mid 231k GC
88 77 4 J Pittard Mid 223k PORT
84 84 4 L Tapscott Fwd 222k MELB
83 87 3 Z Smith Ruck 189k GC
80 82 2 M Coad Def 123k GC
80 77 4 S Martin Def 223k MELB
77 62 3 A Otten Def 210k ADEL
76 83 3 T Bellchambers Ruck 230k ESS
75 55 4 R Conca Mid 194k RICH
74 69 3 B Smith Def 172k ADEL
73 73 1 L Thompson Def 103k ADEL
73 63 4 A Gaff Mid 222k WCE
70 53 4 C O’Shea Def 154k PORT
69 78 3 D Harris Mid 185k GC
69 54 4 J Batchelor Def 164k RICH
68 52 3 S Tape Def 156k GC
66 59 3 T McKenzie Mid 151k GC
65 51 2 J Toy Def 110k GC
64 39 3 A Christensen Mid 127k GEEL
63 45 3 S Atley Mid 133k NM
63 63 1 M Pettigrew Def 189k PORT
60 54 3 J Pitt Fwd 140k FREO
60 54 2 D Gorringe Ruck 143k GC
56 65 3 S McKernan Def/Fwd 157k ADEL
54 55 2 D Grimes Def 111k RICH
53 55 3 C Richardson Fwd 146k NM
50 52 3 B Matera Fwd 143k GC
49 56 3 D Stanley Def 152k GC
42 35 3 C Dixon Fwd 123k GC
42 46 2 A Johnson Def/Fwd 103k SYD
40 57 3 D Prestia Mid/Fwd 176k GC
38 38 1 M Shaw Def 110k GC
36 75 4 S Savage Mid 227k HAW
34 34 2 M Weller Mid 110k GC
34 34 1 L Russell Mid 110k GC
31 26 3 A Magin Def 107k GC
25 25 1 M Wright Mid 103k ADEL
23 63 3 R Tarrant Def 210k NM
14 26 3 K Hunt Def 117k GC
10 28 4 B Helbig Mid 124k RICH
0 65 2 H Bennell Mid 183k GC
  62 3 J O’Brien Def/Fwd 202k BRIS
  53 1 J Polec Mid 168k BRIS
  51 3 R Lester Def 137k BRIS
  44 3 R Bewick Mid 133k BRIS
  30 3 C Beams Mid 103k BRIS
  34 1 B McCauley Ruck 91k BRIS
  64 2 M Watson Def 103k CARL
  61 2 S Buckley Def/Mid 110k COLL
  75 3 N Lower Def 166k FREO
  24 1 M Lock Mid 110k GC
  34 2 C Gutherie Def 103k GEEL
  114 1 C Pedesen Def 109k NM
  43 3 J Irons Mid 118k PORT
  50 1 A Smith Mid 110k STK
  41 3 R Gamble Fwd 184k STK
  52 1 D Archer Fwd 103k STK
  44 1 B Sumner Fwd 110k SYD
  90 3 T Liberatore Mid 183k WBD
  49 3 L Markovic Def/Fwd 140k WBD
  40 2 N Djerrkura Mid 184k WBD

{ 48 comments… read them below or add one }

EagleRocks April 19, 2011 at 6:41 am

Great write up as always big sexy. Can’t believe you omitted Darling though as he looks a cracker!

I think I read somewhere that Coad did a hammy?

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Juddlow express April 19, 2011 at 6:44 am

are his shoes orange??

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Big Sexy April 19, 2011 at 8:41 am

Could well be :)

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juddy April 19, 2011 at 6:51 am

Ummmmm? Where is Heppell? You have kind of left out the Rising Star for this year.

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juddy April 19, 2011 at 6:55 am

Ed Curnow? There are a couple of players missing here BS or did I miss something earlier in the peice?

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Big Sexy April 19, 2011 at 8:36 am

Hey Juddy, Eaglerocks,
You might see a little (<200k) at the top of my write up, but you will see a handful of players over 200k in the long list of rookies…. As the rooks jump in price each week I keep them on the list for the round they jump over 200k, but you will see those players disappear next week. Players like Curnow or Heppell were already above 200k last week so dropped off the list this week…

At least you're reading it closely :) so I'll draw a positive out of your comments…..

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juddy April 19, 2011 at 9:08 am

Thanks for the clarification BS. I didn’t respond with the intention to take the article to task.

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Big Sexy April 19, 2011 at 9:33 am

All good Juddy…. Happy with any (almost any) comments.

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Juddlow express April 19, 2011 at 6:58 am

hey juddy,
they have to be under 200 K and those guys have cracked that mark.

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juddy April 19, 2011 at 7:18 am

but so has about 1/3 of that list above. The very first listed is Duigan and he is $227K?

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Motts April 19, 2011 at 7:36 am

BS has a policy of only writing about rooks worth less than $200k.

He also has a policy of doing as little as possible.

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Duck April 19, 2011 at 8:20 am

Great policies Motts.

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Big Sexy April 19, 2011 at 8:56 am

Thanks Boyz, harsh but true!

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Omen April 19, 2011 at 11:49 am

Sounds like fair policy to me. Happy with the review of rookies under 200K. But maybe all can be included in the rookie data view? Wouldn’t that make it easier for you BS? No need to remove players (Curnow, Heppell, Darling etc) or to keep track of when they bumped over the 200K mark. This would seem consistent with Policy #2 – Do as little as possible. ;)

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D Mac April 19, 2011 at 7:50 am

Any news on coad? He was my downgrade target this week but I definately read yesterday he’s done his hammy.

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D Mac April 19, 2011 at 7:57 am

Pulled from the Suns website.

“Coad was cramping earlier in the fourth quarter and eventually hobbled off late in the game with what turned out to be a hamstring injury.”

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AndyB April 19, 2011 at 1:13 pm

According to AFL.com or HS, Coad has torn his hammy off the bone & will be out for 3 months

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D Mac April 19, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Terrible news!

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Omen April 19, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Up until now I was thinking I’d missed a trick with all the talk about Canetoad. Now he’s out for 3mths just shy of his price rise, I’m glad I don’t have him in my team.

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D Mac April 19, 2011 at 7:53 am

What do you guys think of Brodie Smith?
Hes played 3 games, avg is pretty good, breakeven is nice and low.

My aim this week is to downgrade bruce to smith/coad and upgrade suban to enright.

Thoughts?

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Big Sexy April 19, 2011 at 9:00 am

D Mac, IMO Smith is A better player, he’s just worth a few extra bucks. I focus on value for money, but if you’re happy with extra 50-60k then go for it.

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Scatts April 19, 2011 at 9:30 am

Pedeson is one unlucky bloke , plays 1 game gets a score of 114 points for north melbourne and gets dropped . He must of injured himself.

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Big Sexy April 19, 2011 at 9:36 am

Hey Scatts, I heard he was on the plane to Perth so didn’t play in VFL either, and still missed the boat so very unlucky….. ( not confirmed)

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Scatts April 19, 2011 at 9:45 am

thanks big sexy ,the way the roos are playing pedeson is a big chance to play a few games this year . If he gets around the hundred mark this week and plays his third game I would consider trading out coad for him.

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Big Sexy April 19, 2011 at 9:56 am

Worth some thought, but it depends how the Roos see him…. If it’s only as a ruck, then he’s prob behind Petrie, Goldstein & McIntosh when he returns…. That’s a lot of big men for one team… Unless he plays as key def/fwd.

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Fishtopher April 19, 2011 at 4:35 pm

Pretty sure he was recruited as a key back. That’s were he played for Box Hill last year.

Played ruck round one through necessity.

So if he does come back I wouldn’t expect smash it like he did round 1 either. Not to say he’s not worth picking up if he gets games but something to keep in mind.

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Damen Stephens April 21, 2011 at 7:07 pm

It’s also a bit of a concern when he went back to the VFL after Rnd 1 and smashed it again (just under 100 Champion Data points) but still wasn’t selected for Rnds 3 and 4 – looks like he won’t get a good run at it unless there are some injuries at Nth … maybe they are just scared at the bad publicity having a Big Pedo in their team might bring ?

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TheHairyCat April 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm

So he got the plane but missed the boat! That is very unlucky :)

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Brian April 19, 2011 at 12:09 pm

Enjoy the review BS. Plenty of choice amonst the rookies this year.

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Brian April 19, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Smith is looking good, consistent scores. Until last week was going to trade otten for him. Have to wait and see now.

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AndyB April 19, 2011 at 1:15 pm

Coad out for 3 months with torn hammy is not good for the lad. Toy’s JS just went up a notch, especially as Campbell Brown is still suspended for the next 3 weeks.

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Frenchy April 19, 2011 at 2:24 pm

What are thoughts on lower getting a gig now that suban is out? Sucks losing Coad this round given he is stuck on 2 games and there is the multi-bye. My hope is that lower comes back in and trading Coad this week is not a necessity.

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AndyB April 19, 2011 at 2:41 pm

From Harvey interview it sounds like Ibbertson who started as sub last week will come into side which would then free up a place on the bench if same personell as last week. I’ve got Lower as well and hoping as they play doggies his pace gets him a spot on I/C even if it’s as a sub. I’ve got Toy and he has not went up in price, he may be a good straight trade for Coad who if out for 3 months will have to go. Worth waiting to see if Jamie Cripps is named for Saints v Brissie as i think Lyon realises an injection of pace is needed.

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gimmeguitars April 20, 2011 at 9:35 am

Jamie won’t play against Lions… he played in the 2′s sunday and is ineligible, but I don’t think he is too far away from being selected HTH :)

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wets April 19, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Thoughts on WB Ruckman Ayce Cordy please?

Hasnt played a game yet , back from shoulder injury.

$110.000 , could he be a good option to downgrade to. Does anyone know if he will play a part this year for the Bulldogs.

Thanks

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Happy Go Lucky April 21, 2011 at 5:19 pm

There is no need to commit to a player such as this until they have been picked and played 2 games.
Trading him in before that time and you are gambling on a possible future outcome that may never materialise.
Trust me when I say that if a time comes where Ayce looks like he’ll make us money, SOMEONE -probably PA- will be all over this, and we will not miss the boat. :D

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Damen Stephens April 21, 2011 at 5:42 pm

The only possible exception to this would be if by “gambling on a possible future outcome which may never materialise”, you are actually strengthening your on-field team (ie. if you were downgrading a more expensive ruck to Cordy – though I’d think McCauley would be the safer and more lucrative option – in order to free up cash to upgrade someone else … in this case it may not matter whether Ayce looks like he’ll make you money or possibly even if he plays or not … not many teams have playing 4th rucks).

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Happy Go Lucky April 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm

Yes, that is a potential exception, but, even then, as you mentioned yourself, there are better options than a bloke who may or may not be picked.

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PA April 21, 2011 at 5:56 pm

Huddo, Roughy and Mino are in all in front of him at present, still a “work in process” and might not see much game time this year but will differently get a krak next year. (I hope :D )

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wets April 21, 2011 at 6:15 pm

great thanks, so i have sandi , cox, smith, petrie

im gonna wait until rd 7 to get max cash and then offload petrie or smith.

who is the best cheap option for ruckman to free up some money?

i dont care if he plays or not do i with the other 3 going ok?

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PA April 21, 2011 at 6:19 pm

Keep an eye (:roll:) on Robbie Campbell at Melbourne, still on the injury list but will make his way into side as soon as he’s fit.

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PA April 21, 2011 at 6:19 pm

* :roll:

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Damen Stephens April 21, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Max Bailey (LOL) or McCauley … McCauley frees up the most cash and has an OK chance of playing – has already played once this year and is listed on the interchange bench. Pretty sure Campbell is still Rookie listed so there would have to be a long-term injury at Melbourne for him to be elevated (and Maric and Martin are currently working well in tandem).

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PA April 21, 2011 at 7:00 pm

Nice pickup DS, didn’t know that.

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Luke April 19, 2011 at 8:11 pm

Is there anyone jumping on the Petrie wagon this week?

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gimmeguitars April 20, 2011 at 9:33 am

Daniel Archer -stk- played well for the Zebra’s on Sunday. As did Jamie Cripps who is in my SC team…knocking on the door for selection…god knows we need to do something!

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Damen Stephens April 21, 2011 at 5:01 pm

I wouldn’t say Toy “improved” in his second game – sure his score was a little higher and he got 4 more possessions, but that is from full game-time, whereas his previous game he was sub and played less than half the game !

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wets April 25, 2011 at 11:59 am

Thanks to PA and Damen.

Ill look at Mcauley, good stuff.

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