Drugs in Footy

Written by Motts on March 31 2015

Feel the need to discuss the Essendon verdict today and its ramifications for your SC team? How about the chances of the Collingwood rookies getting a game if Keeffe and Thomas get banned? What about the rumoured Carlton and St Kilda players?

Maybe you want to talk about how well the elite mids will go this year if Crowley’s now finished up.

Here’s where you do it.

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73 thoughts on “Drugs in Footy”

  1. Expected but not what i would consider an acceptable result.

    After all our Hoohah at multiple olympics, we have whole teams in our major sporting codes, and individuals from other sports who get off with virtually no penalties, when we expect extended or even lifetime bans for other nation’s athletes.

    Australia IS a nation of drug cheats, and now we will wait and see if ASADA, WADA or anyone else has got the guts to take action on what was supposedly the darkest day of australian sport.

    Like in economics, politics, climate change. We’ve squibbed it yet again.

    None of our administrators in any public environment have enough cojones to take action on anything at all.

    I even bet none of them have enough nuts to pick Missy in their supercoach side.

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  2. so i just want to take a look at things from a super coach point of view, obviously there are some players now from the bombers that will be back on my radar, as well as a lot of other peoples hibberd obviously one of the biggest ones, i am still worried about picking him because if asada or wada appeal, and they win, will these players not still be banned, and metaphorically throwing tonnes of super coaches under the bus, instead of getting my trades burned, i think i will rather go into the new season without any of the essondon 34

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  3. I like to get everyone’s opinion. For those on the east coast, drugs in General have been a major talking point in Perth over the last few weeks, especially since Cousins & Kerr have been in trouble. Reports are coming out that 5% or 1 in every 20 people are coming to work under the influence of drugs (mostly ice) or even worse are using on the job. Now I’m not surprised at all that 1/20 use drugs but that people are working under the influence just astounded me! What is everyone’s thoughts on this? Do you know of people that do this? I personally manage around 20 staff members and as far as I know, no one uses or is effected by drugs at work. In there personal time it could be different.

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  4. What’s peoples thoughts on picking Essendon players with have stuff all preseason?

    Supposedly Paige cardona is reporting two players from Victorian clubs will be testing positive to drug tests like the two collingwood players ( one from the blues and saints)

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  5. All very confusing, So they were injected with something that was not banned?. Not sure I want to add any dons players in just yet, maybe heppel once he drops down a little in price.

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  6. In some ways, the players were the unwitting victims in all this so there’s a smidgen of contentedness that they’ve gotten off. Notwithstanding the issue that they were responsible for what they eat/drink/inject and alarm bells should have been ringing at the very mention of wholesale injections.

    But the thought of Hird and the Essendon Footy Club as a whole now feeling vindicated infuriates me no end. Their lack of duty of care to the players while the injections were taking place and lack of any remorse ever since is reprehensible and I hate the thought that they’re now sitting back with a smug smile on their faces saying “I told you so”.

    I’m torn though, as I just want the whole sorry saga to go away now and would be relieved to hear that ASADA/WADA had decided to not appeal. There’s certainly been no winners out of this at all, but James, how about just a little bit of mea culpa over what you and the Club put the players through and then inflicted on the rest of the AFL world.

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  7. There was only ever going to be one conclusion. Being a criminal matter you have to be found guilty on the grounds of .. beyond reasonable doubt … however in this case there was not conclusive proof that existed … why it took over 750 days for a conclusion is a joke .
    So many groups and people involved and so many differences of opinion. Its about time the AFL, WADA and ASADA , the fed Govt , police and all other parties concerned produce a concrete platform on what is and what isnt an illegal substance. You can argue the point/s re there is a code but we have witnessed WADA and ASADA and the AFL were not always on the same page ( to coin the phrase ) on what was illegal and what isnt.
    If ASADA appeal i will be surprised as there is not the evidence to support .. beyond reasonable doubt …

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  8. Regardless of the legal result, it is pretty clear that Essendon were trying to get an advantage over the rest of the clubs in the AFL not by playing better footy but by being sneaky. Still cheating if you ask me. What is also clear is that it was at the expense of their duty of care to their players. Again bad form even if it’s not illegal.and to top it all off, when caught red handed, instead of copping it sweet and manning up, they cry victim of Asada. Zero credibility by Hird and by those in charge.

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  9. If Ahmed Saad got done for drinking an energy drink from his sponsors, Essendon players getting off his a joke. Neither deliberately or had knowledge of taking a banded substance. AFL’s just looking out for their own interests by not having one of the main clubs destroyed. Very likely for WADA to want to appeal and enforce sanctions.

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  10. Has Caro got her apology typed up and ready to go? Knowing her journalistic integrity she’ll spin it into another headline for herself. Do not like that woman……

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  11. whether the outcome is right or wrong, I truly hope this is the end of it… I want my hard earned tax dollars to be wasted somewhere else ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  12. From the Age:
    “”There is evidence from a player he was injected with a substance from a brown vial that Mr Dank always told him was thymosin.”

    But Jones said that was of “no significant probative value”.

    So they heard evidence but decided to ignore that part. IN-TER-EST-ING

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  13. Not enough evidence means ASADA can’t prove what was injected, as Essendon injected “unknown” substances to their own players. Can’t get around that irresponsibility whichever way you look at it. Not guilty of players doesn’t mean innocence of hird and club officials.

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  14. This whole saga stinks and here is why:

    1. Convicted drug trafficker and biochemist, Shane Charter has previously said Mr Dank asked him to buy banned peptide Thymosin beta-4, but said he didn’t know which of Mr Dank’s clients were going to use it.

    2. Mr Charter said he did not know what happened to the peptide after it went to compounding chemist Nima Alavi and could not say if it was injected into Essendon players.

    3. Both Mr Charter and Alavi REFUSED to give SWORN evidence to ASADA and refused to appear at the tribunal hearing.

    4. There is a recording of Stephen Dank being interviewed by Fairfax journalist Nick McKenzie in which he said he had given players thymosin beta-4, only to later recant.

    5. Stephen Dank also refused to be interviewed by ASADA and refused to appear at the tribunal hearing (probably too busy listening to himself on the airways).

    6. To this day nobody knows for certain what the players were injected with. Anyone who might know has refused to share this information in a legally binding way.

    I really hope ASADA’s case against the Essendon “support person” (believed to be Dank) results in a life ban from any involvement with any sport in Australia.

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  15. And finally, can we just all say “enough is enough” and get over it???? I’m sick to death of the whole saga and honestly also a lot of ourselves here saying / quoting “he said / she said / it was written / …” and on it goes.

    None of us really know what happened or what was done or wasn’t done. Yes, we can infer, we can speculate, but really all we do is fuel a dying (replace dead) fire of which in the main (I assume) none, or at least not many of us have any expertise or knowledge…

    On to the 2015 season, and pure footy for pure footy … PLEASE!! Good luck to all for the upcoming season and your efforts, be it chasing the magical overall win or your H2H group wins!!

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