Game Chat – St Kilda vs Richmond

Written by Thommo on July 20 2018

WHERE AND WHEN: Etihad Stadium at 7:50am AEST

This Richmond side isn’t accustomed to losing and after a tight contest with Greater Western Sydney last week, it will be confident about beating St Kilda. That’s fair, considering the Saints’ struggles this season, but they have looked better in recent weeks. Jack Steven is in impressive form, Seb Ross will return from gastro while Jade Gresham will be hoping to repeat his feats from last time he faced the Tigers, when he bagged six goals. Richmond is a proud team though and its ultra-impressive backline will be determined to ensure that Gresham doesn’t get loose again. The midfield battle should give Damien Hardwick’s outfit an edge. Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Shane Edwards headline the onball division, with plenty of other reinforcements running through there. Meanwhile, St Kilda big man Tom Hickey will face a tough challenge when he comes up against Toby Nankervis. The Saints have chopped and changed their ruckmen this year, so Hickey will want to make the spot his own. 

R10, 2018, Richmond 15.15 (105) d St Kilda 12.5 (77) at the MCG
R23, 2017, Richmond 19.8 (122) d St Kilda 12.9 (81) at the MCG
R16, 2017, St Kilda 21.12 (138) d Richmond 10.11 (71) at Etihad Stadium
R22, 2016, St Kilda 7.13 (55) d Richmond 6.10 (46) at the MCG
R16, 2015, Richmond 13.11 (89) d St Kilda 10.13 (73) at Etihad Stadium 

Thommo’s Tip:  Richmond by 40 points

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38 thoughts on “Game Chat – St Kilda vs Richmond”

  1. No late changes.

    Anyone else have no players in this game? I think it’s the first Friday night I’ve ever had like this. I’ll just have to enjoy the footy, instead of sweating it out over the stats!


    1. Savage and Dusty.
      C Moore on bench (potential loophole if Gray is a late OUT)

      Took the V off Dusty after a mate saw him swaggering down Chapel St at 2pm this avo with his mates. No respect

      TIP: Saints by a couple 😉


      1. Mate I took the VC off after I read your thread. He should go to Chapel Rd at 2am more often. He didnt party at all this year. Glad I hold him


      St Kilda: Luke Dunstan, Hunter Clark, Josh Battle, Ed Phillips
      Richmond: Dion Prestia, Shaun Grigg, Jason Castagna, Connor Menadu


  2. Riewoldt , Billings & Higgins ,
    very tempted to put the VC on Riewoldt tonight ,
    got a rare night off work ,
    get to watch the game of the season ..


  3. only thing worse than a Friday night smashing , is when the team that’s killn it couldn’t be bothered in the last Q ,
    time to put on a movie ..


  4. J Short will be a player to strongly consider starting next year.

    Avg since Rd10: 99.88 from 8 (low of 86 and a high of 114, 4/8 below 100, 2/8 below 95)

    Averaging 20.4 disposals in 2018.
    Avg when disposals equal/exceed 21: 93.38 from 8 (low of 64 and a high of 114, 5/8 below 100, 3/8 below 90)

    Avg when disposals below 21: 81.89 from 9 (low of 50 and a high of 105, 8/9 below 100, 6/9 below 90)

    75.5% of his disposals are by foot.

    Is currently ranked
    1st for metres gained
    7th for total kicks
    10th for rebound 50’s

    Potential to increase time on Ground in 2019: 2018 Time on Ground: 79%


    1. Love ya work Adam. I don’t suppose you’ve had a similar look at McCluggage and Taranto?! Am giving both due consideration for a breakout in 2019?!


      1. T Taranto:
        2017 Contested Possession Rate: 44.21%
        2018 Contested Possession Rate: 46.43%

        2017 Tackles per game: 3.86
        2018 Tackles per game: 6.19

        2017 Time on Ground Avg: 73.64%
        2018 Time on Ground Avg: 81.81%

        Averaging 21.13 disposals in 2018:
        Avg when disposals equal/exceed 22: 103 from 7 (low of 73 and a high of 116, 1/7 below 100, 3/7 110+)

        Avg when disposals below 22: 79.22 from 9 (low of 49 and a high of 95, 3/9 below 80)

        Plays a very freindly Supercoach game style and it will be very interesting to see how he scores when the Giants regain the services of Z Williams, T Scully, etc and are full strength.


        1. H McCluggage:
          2017 Contested Possession Rate: 27.2%
          2018 Contested Possession Rate: 37.28%

          2017 Tackles Per Game: 2
          2018 Tackles Per Game: 3.13

          2017 Time on Ground Avg: 78.39%
          2018 Time on Ground Avg: 79.69% ( if you remove the injury affected game it increases to 82.27%)

          Averaging 18.94 disposals in 2018:
          Avg when disposals equal/exceed 19: 100.83 from 6 (low of 78 and a high of 130, 4/6 below 100, 1/6 below 90, 2/6 110+)

          Avg when disposals below 19: 61.6 from 10 (low of 28 and a high of 86, 7/10 below 80)

          2018 Post Bye Avg: 94.75 from 4

          If he retains fwd eligibility and increases the 4 major aforementioned categories then he will be a great pick in 2019.


          1. what’s not to like? if he can retain the DPP status and he will surely be looking at more MID-time next year (= more possessions/disposals??)
            Loving the increased CPs and Tackle numbers as key indicators.

            You’re a legend Adam, thanks. Would love to see how you’ve set up your database to pull stuff up like that so quick


            1. The above numbers I provided I just grabbed from Footywire and AFL Tables and plugged the numbers into my calculator.

              The stats provided in my weekly captaincy Candidates article are taken from word documents for relevant Supercoach players using the premium classification I set at the start of the year. All of those can be found at Supercoach Talk as Schwarz posted them in the pre season.

              For 2019 I will condense the previous stats I covered and narrow it down making the process much easier and faster. Also I wouldn’t mind compiling a potential 2019 breakout article using the players above and more.


        2. you’re a genius, thanks Adam. Does that mean WATCH and GRAB then with the uncertainty with returning GUNS and their impact on his scoring/role?!

          what are your views with Sam Docherty from the start in 2019? Should be priced at $504.6k at season’s start which means a BE of 91.7 for the first three rounds. Pfft, LOCK and load?!?!? Will only need to be averaging 101 come the byes to maintain that price.

          Can we start a new stream on “EARLY 2019 THOUGHTS”?! I’d be really keen to hear people’s views at this stage. Of course, a lot can happen between now and then … just look at the carnage from week to week!!!


          1. Natural progression will see both Taranto and McCluggage improve again but from a Supercoach perspective MCluggage would be the better pick due to his lower average and starting price for 2019. Also Brisbane are just about full strength and I don’t see many players pushing him out of a heavily midfield based role in 2019.

            A lot of players play the same role as Taranto at GWS and they possess a lot of Supercoach relevant players.

            If Docherty receives a discount in excess of 15 to 20% then he will be a lock but Supercoach has a penchant for not applying the correct discount to popular players.


            1. thanks again mate. I’ve tried to look at those price changes on SC season-to-season. Unless I’ve missed an example, it seems that if you miss an entire season there is a standard 20% price drop applied for the following season?

              then 15%-10% if they play 1 or 2 games and type of injury can also be a factor for these.

              maybe it’s not that straightforward … it never is, is it?!?!


  5. I watched the game live. Martin plays Russian roulette most of the time. Knows his teammates will win the ball back and they give it to him at every opportunity. Never tackles but coz he gives a good fend off supporters think he is hard at it. No way he should have scored anywhere near 139


  6. Plus he wasn’t tagged. Nobody went near him for he first half and then Steele paid him a little attention but that was all.



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