Where and when: SCG, Friday May 24, 7.50pm AEST
Last time they met: SCG, round 20, 2018: Sydney 11.7 (73) defeated Colingwood 10.11 (71)
Alex Johnson made an emotional return to senior footy to inspire his side to a thrilling win. Lance Franklin’s six goals were the difference and he was awarded the three Brownlow medal votes, but young forward Tom McCartin was the hero. The Pies kicked three late goals to snatch the lead before McCartin booted a goal while lying on his back to give Sydney the victory.
What it means for Sydney: Two close wins over the past two weeks has given the young Swans confidence but they’ll face a much sterner test from the Pies. It will show them exactly where they stand.
What it means for Collingwood: With the four teams just one game behind them on the ladder all facing tough challenges this weekend, a Pies win could give them a handy eight-point buffer in second spot in an incredibly even season.
How Sydney wins: The Swans can’t match Collingwood’s star-studded side for talent or experience, but they’ve shown over the past fortnight if they scrap and pressure the opposition, they can be more than competitive.
How Collingwood wins: The Pies midfield is full of stars and with a dominant ruckman in Brodie Grundy, it looks to have far more dangerous players than the Swans can cover. If Grundy gets on top of Callum Sinclair, he’ll be a match-winner.
The stat: Collingwood faced a serious challenge from St Kilda last week but showed it was a class above the Saints in the final term. The Pies kicked 6.6 to one goal in the last quarter to show just how powerful they can be.
The match-up: Callum Sinclair v Brodie Grundy
The Swan hasn’t been able to match his 2018 form this year but has improved his output in the past month, and he’ll need to be at his very best to match Grundy around the ground and at stoppages. If the big Magpie imposes himself physically on the contest his fleet of gun onballers will destroy the home side.
It’s a big week for: George Hewett
The Swans midfielder won 20 contested possessions and nine clearances against North Melbourne last week and is more than just a stopper these days. Hewett will get another huge job on Friday night on Scott Pendlebury, Dayne Beams or Adam Treloar, or could even be thrown onto the wing to try to curb the influence of Steele Sidebottom.
Big call: Inspired by his brother Ben’s return to senior footy with Collingwood, Swan Sam Reid will emerge from his form slump to boot six goals for the home side, while Ben will boot one.
Mottsy’s Tip: Sydney by 5 points
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Bobo says go the mighty pies
But please don’t play crisp on that flog Franklin
moore too?
TU: macrae
TD: whitfield
swans look like they might ready to turn it on now
baddy’s back in & would expect him to be cherry ripe with his time off
parker looks like he’s play’n into some good form
kennedy has been relatively solid &
heeney should go a lot better now that he wont be the focus for the opposition
lloyd should move up a gear too
swans to win
heeney 120+
Lol PJ, you are our resident contrarian.
….hoping you’re right though!
Heeney has became a POD in my leagues and the main opponent I want to beat this week doesn’t have Lloyd, would love them both to go huge. Grundy VC as well.
Go with Grundy VC?
Sh1t yeah!!
Need Grundy to go bad this week. It seems like everyone has him.
Agree…..always been on my r14 radar. Goldy doing a good job.
Bad luck lads…
Recon swans win if umps finally even up on pies ridiculous run they have had. Sorry darcy…couldn’t hold you any more..thanks for the $.
Go swanies go!
I tipped them :O on a wing and a pray
SCG playing surface is a cow paddock
Somehow have no bench coverage but got an R3 that’s playing. SC has got weird this year!
Grundy’s tapwork looking phenomenal
yeh ,
he’s a good ruckman for a midfielder
SUPERCOACH
Q time
syd 3.1.19 – 1.4.10
L. Parker 32
D. Wells 39
S. Reid 30
S. Pendlebury 37
J. Kennedy 29
B. Grundy 33
R. Clarke 29
D. Beams 26
J. Lloyd 28
R. Wills 25
C. Mills 26
B. Maynard 23
C. Sinclair 23
J. Stephenson 22
A. Aliir 22
B. Mihocek 19
D. Rampe 21
J. Crisp 18
I. Heeney 20
A. Treloar 18
L. Melican 17
J. Madgen 17
O. Florent 15
W. Hoskin-Elliott 17
W. Hayward 15
L. Greenwood 16
L. Franklin 14
T. Phillips 16
C. O’Riordan 14
J. Aish 16
J. Thurlow 12
J. Thomas 15
T. McCartin 12
C. Mayne 15
R. Fox 11
C. Brown 14
G. Hewett 10
J. Howe 13
J. Dawson 10
B. Reid 11
T. Papley 8
J. Roughead 7
N. Blakey 4
S. Sidebottom 2
Bought in lloyd this week, he just racks them up, 12 possessions for 28 points , he would normally be on 40.
Needed to get him in though.
can see that all players are struggling with the surface a bit
doing a good job of it though
Finally selected J Lloyd as well this week due to the teams listed and being unable to view or make changes this afternoon/evening when teams were announced. Will trade Constable to Cripps/Macrae next week.
pendles all class
Lloyd 16 touches for 42 SC, not the usual rate of return- but I’ll take it.
What is happening everyone is on a low score can someone tell me?
Q by Q scores being posted
What happen to R.Wills??????
copped a hit , off the ground , hopefully just winded
hope so cause AFL app said he is OUT
Commentators saying he’s fine, just winded.
Come on, Heeney. Get amongst it!
SUPERCOACH
1/2 tiime
syd 5.1.31 – 5.10.40
S. Reid 73
S. Pendlebury 83
C. Mills 62
B. Grundy 74
L. Parker 57
D. Wells 64
D. Rampe 55
J. Crisp 52
J. Kennedy 55
J. Stephenson 52
J. Lloyd 44
L. Greenwood 48
A. Aliir 41
B. Maynard 46
R. Clarke 38
C. Brown 44
J. Dawson 38
A. Treloar 43
G. Hewett 36
R. Wills 40
I. Heeney 33
C. Mayne 39
O. Florent 32
J. Thomas 38
C. O’Riordan 27
T. Phillips 36
C. Sinclair 26
W. Hoskin-Elliott 34
T. Papley 24
B. Mihocek 34
L. Melican 23
D. Beams 34
J. Thurlow 21
B. Reid 29
T. McCartin 16
J. Aish 29
W. Hayward 16
J. Howe 22
R. Fox 15
J. Madgen 19
L. Franklin 11
J. Roughead 18
N. Blakey 7
S. Sidebottom 18
clarke giving sidebottom a football’n lesson
wtf.
Wills and Lloyd 41 and 45 points respectively.
lloyd 11-7-3
Wills 4-2-2-1
Lloyd @77% Wills@83% but still, it looks like Lloyds getting dumped as CD darling the week that I get him
ive had lloyd 3 yrs now
he nearly always starts slow
his fitness shows through in the last 15 mins of each game
SCG cow paddock surface might hurt his 1-2 handballs out of the backline tonight though
Brought in Lloyd not going to ton this week
Rethink?
wells knee off the ground
I don’t understand why isn’t Llyod not on 94 or higher can someone please explain
I seen him play the exact same game like this an he would be on around the 80 3qrt time
Yeah i know right 23 disposal he should be at least be on 80 – 85 not 60
Lol now I am annoy he not get the cheap point when I bring him in
i posted a week or two ago – i reckon CD are taking on board all the complaints that people were registering on the scoring for Lloyd -Heeney currently tied with him now on 76 – Heeny only 18 possies at 66DE. Lloyd 29 peossies at 86DE – the only difference is Heeney 5 tackles – Lloyd none and Heeny a couple more Cps … they are balancing out the scorers ..
His gone banners after your post this
yeah up to 106 now – dont think you can trust Fan Footy with the wild swings in scoring – been noticing a bit lately – it may also be “scaling”applied early – but its crazy if it is …
Heeney also jumped to 86 …
Heeney on track for a whopping 70. Super premo.
Looking forward to reading about Lloyd in the Scoring Abnormalities thread next week.
F**k you, Heeney. Either 130 or 70 with you.
if you think about it though – that’s a 100 average!!
I just got Lloyd in come on man get those 100
there you go – massive upgrades through that last quarter …
YES VC GRUNDY LETS GO
Get Grundy back on!!
Cue the “should I take Grundy VC posts”????
Another week, another classic Rampe antic.
Grundy just got scaled back to 166 – anyone bring in Parker?
Reid making it almost impossible for big Mason to get back in …
Parker with 21 CP’s, 4 tackles and 28 possies – BUT only 50%DE for 134 points – imagine if he’d disposed of it better! Is he back??
With jpk injury he could be a good pod
Cox has to go back to the VFL first then they will figure where he can go with reid
With all the outs this week, thank God for Grundy VC. It’s all downhill from here…
Looks like final scaling:
Sydney Swans: 11.7.73
Sam Reid* 151
Luke Parker 135
Jake Lloyd 115
Dane Rampe 104
Callum Mills 100
Callum Sinclair 93
Aliir Aliir 88
Oliver Florent 84
Isaac Heeney 82
Jordan Dawson 78
Josh P. Kennedy 68
Robbie Fox 52
Lewis Melican 51
Ryan Clarke 49
Nick Blakey 47
Tom Papley 46
Lance Franklin 39
Tom McCartin 37
Colin O’Riordan 37
Jackson Thurlow 36
Will Hayward 36
George Hewett 31
Collingwood Magpies: 11.14.80
Brodie Grundy 165
Scott Pendlebury 146
Chris Mayne 124
Jack Crisp 99
Callum Brown 97
Adam Treloar 93
Dayne Beams 89
Levi Greenwood 81
Brayden Maynard 80
James Aish 78
Ben Reid 78
Jeremy Howe 78
Jaidyn Stephenson 70
Brody Mihocek 68
Rupert Wills 66
Tom Phillips 65
Daniel Wells 64
Steele Sidebottom 54
Jordan Roughead 46
Josh Thomas 43
W. Hoskin-Elliott 35
Jack Madgen 24
I don’t get how Parker score 135 where Lloyd has more kicks, HB,D and Marks but gets a score of 115
Thought treloar had a better game as well but he only end up with 93
Treloar’s DE was way down. In the 30s…
showing at 57 on fan footy …
showing with 5 clangers – if they were all kicks, based on the scoring outlined below, that’s minus 20 points right there … but he had huge numbers:
38 possies, 17 kicks, 2 tackles, 13 CPs and 10 clearances …
His kicking efficiency was in the teens. That’ll do it!
21 contested possessions and 4 tackles to 6 and 1 for Lloyd will probably do it … but Lloyd 82DE efficiency to Parker 50% …
scoring is hard to fathom at times and I have posted numerous times that when you watch matches players often don’t actually earn what they are awarded .. CD don’t care and give rubbish responses – all you can do is get on the favourites as early as you can …
What is DE mean?
disposal efficiency
the players scores are affected by how well they “hit their targets”with either handball or kicks. If you look at the help section in the top screen and go to scoring – you can see how the players get points or lose points for bad DE … see below – may not come out that well …
Stat Awarded/Deducted
Effective kick 4 Points
Ineffective kick 0 Points
Clanger kick -4 Points
Effective Handball 1.5 Points
Ineffective handball 0 Points
Handball clanger -4 Points
Handball receive 1.5 Point
there’s more than this – but you get the drift …
Disposal efficiency
Lloyd’s the ultimate seagull, all his possessions are uncontested. Whereas Parker is in and under a lot of the time, so his contested possessions are worth more.
Coming from someone who brought Lloyd in this week and has complained about his cheap points in the past, I’m actually pretty happy with his 115.
In fact I think the scoring tonight is for once a pretty fair reflection of players’ impact on the game.
Only Rampe is the one I would question. He should get at least -25 points for that 50. He ran about 5 metres over the mark at pace. What was he thinking!
Rampe was probably thinking the same thing as when he climbed the goal post the other week.
Bought in lloyd this week, thought he was a bit hard done by to 3/4 time , then scores 50 odd points in last quarter,seemed to balance out. Happy I got him in.
yep – didn’t start him, brought him in about weeks ago – still thinks he gets unicorn points more than most, and a lot of his points aren’t well earned or of a lot of benefit to his team … but when he gets the favouritism, ya just gotta make sure you have him!!
5 weeks ago … man I hat this laptop dropping off my numlock all the time!!
The thing about lloyd , and i only got him in this week is that he was r/up in b&f in 2017 and won it last year. Coaches must be happy with his game.
Critical cog in their chain to get it out of their D50. And gee does he put some k’s in.
Have been watching a lot more closely since I got him in four weeks ago!
I’m generally critical of his game, but I thought he was great last night, especially in the fourth quarter. Spent some time on the ball with Hewett and JPK out, something to keep in mind for prospective buyers!
Noticed that. Couple of contested posies out the back of the contest and hitting short targets I50. Happy days 😉
posies?!? possies, iPad, possies!!