General SuperCoach Discussion Rd22

Written by Schwarzwalder on August 16 2019

A chance to wax lyrical with your fellow Coaches over the weekend……..

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    1. I think Begley tried to do a runner from gate 32 but they tackled him at gate 8 and dragged him back on the plane.

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  1. looks like D’s were the beneficiaries of the soft draw last year
    & victims of the tougher draw this year
    probably got a bit ahead of themselves over the preseason
    understandable , considering last year
    it was their 1st competitive season in a decade
    heads down in the coming preseason should see them back in the 8 next year
    & a little wiser leading into preseasons in the future

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    1. The same was said about Adelaide in 2019 and they haven’t bounced back as predicted. I’m not sure Melbourne will either.

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    2. I think there’s more to it than just the draw, personally. Their actual level of football is just so much worse this year.

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  2. The plan was to trade out Cameron and Westhoff to bring in Dunkley and a rookie. However might now be wise to keep Westhoff with Gawn going off late with a tight hammy.

    TU – Dunkley in, Westhoff out
    TD – Greene in, Westhoff kept

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  3. There is absolutely nothing about Melbourne that could lead you to believe they will make the 8 next year. They have been disgraceful and the coach has either lost the players or has zero idea about the modern game. Good players have gone backwards at a million miles an hour.

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    1. The one thing they do have in their favour is that their list is in good shape, both talent-wise and demographically (although given their inability to take a mark inside 50 this year, they probably shouldn’t have traded Jesse Hogan.)

      But Einstein’s quip about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result also comes to mind. They need to change their gameplan. Their two biggest problems as far as I can tell are pressure and ball movement. Being bad at both of these things is an indictment in and of itself – it’s one thing to sacrifice one to benefit the other, but there is no excuse to not be able to do either. As I was watching last night, I was thinking about what I would change if I was coaching them. The short answer was “a lot”, but the first thing I would change would be to make them play an honest, accountable, one-on-one style. They’re trying to play a zone at the moment, and they’re rubbish at it. The number of times I saw Demons players guarding grass, and a Swans player take an uncontested mark within a couple of metres of them, was simply appalling. For a zone to work, the players need to be able to defend against opponents who come into their area. These players seem to genuinely have no idea how to do that.

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      1. How’s the way Lloyd played on from full back, handballed to a moving Rampe who then roosted it to the wing where Syd either marked it or scrambled it to half fwd. You would think after the 12th time in a row the Melb brains trust might have put a stop to it. These coaches get way too much credit. They aren’t delicate geniuses.

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      2. you make a good point
        haven’t seen many D’s games this year
        & didn’t see this one due to work
        maybe Goodwin is trying to get them to play above their skill level
        Roosy was a very Gordon Ramsey type of coach there
        took them back to basics & got them to do them well
        seemed to work ok

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  4. With VC Gawn a bust, I need to decide on a captain.

    Ruling out Cripps because of Steele. Same with Dunkley/Macrae, either might get De Boer and GWS are hard to score against anyway. ROB and Sauce to double team Grundy, so a line through him as well.

    Thinking either:

    T.U: Fyfe

    T.D: Whitfield

    Comment: Neale/reconsider one of the options I ruled out

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    1. Fyfe just goes large doesn’t he?
      No real match up for him.

      Is everyone ruling out Gawn for the sake of a possible 10-20 points? I will be taking his score if I feel I am slightly in front after today’s games

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      1. Totally agree Disco…I still have Macrae,Bont,Dunks to put c on but with my nose in front, its too risky for the extra pts. Yeo 150 by 3/4 time would be nice.

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    2. Steele doesn’t seem to have bothered Cripps much in the past. Also, have you considered Dangerfield?

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  5. Is anyone considering taking Gawn’s score as captain? I’m only playing for leagues (like pretty much everyone) and if i am ahead of my opponent, and he captains Gawn, i will just play it safe and take his score.

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  6. Why isn’t anyone captaining Grundy? He got doubled teamed by Mumford and Simpson. Both of them walked out with a sore ass and sore knees. Grundy will win the majority of the hitours and nothing can stop him tackling and winning the hard ball against his 2020 club of choice.

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    1. Pyke said they were going to double team him, which includes a tag outside of stoppages. Also, Sauce and ROB are a far more competent duo than Mumford and Simpson.

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    2. He’ll probably still win a majority of the hitouts, but it will likely be a slimmer majority than usual.

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    1. According to Goodwin, it was just hamstring tightness. The game was well and truly over anyway, so no point risking him. He should be fine for next week.

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  7. Which one to trade out
    TU= D Clarke (omitted this week – will he be back in next week or done?)
    TD=Bewley

    Clarke obviously gives me more cash for next week, if I make the GF, which could be handy for the last week I’ll have left.

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  8. 3 trades left, $138k in the bank.

    DEF: Lloyd, Whitfield, ZWilliams, Crisp, B Smith, Sicily (Birchall/Gardner)
    MID: Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Bont, Neale, BCrouch, M Crouch, Jelly (Hind, D Clarke, Hill)
    RCK: Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
    FWD: Danger, Dunkley, Kelly, Marshall, Heeney, Lycett (Chol, R Young)

    Any ideas at all here gents?? Obviously one trade for Lycett to Greene/Worpel but unsure whether to use the other to upgrade a weak spot in defence(Crisp or Smith) or weaker midfielder(B Crouch) to a Treloar?

    Any advice greatly appreciated!

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  9. Thinking to take Answerth’s 87

    Who to bench?

    T/U – Hurn
    T/D – Sicily

    Comment – leave it be :-/

    Thanks SCz

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    1. Im going to do the same with Sicily. It’s a risk but defenders don’t always go as well against GC as the ball is up.the other end! Here’s hoping anyway

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  10. Have 454k and need a FWD playing today. Thinking either Titch Edwards or Wingard.

    TU: Titch against Eagles but 3 round average of 112

    TD: Wingard against Suns but hasn’t scored a ton all year

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  11. Got a dilemma. It comes down to today.

    I’m down by 190 points. I have Hurn, Houli, Bont & Dunkley. They have Hunter, Whitfield & Sicily.

    Potentially I could use the bench score of answerth (87) for Hurn. Have one trade left but can only really trade Hurn>Sicily or Houli>Whitfield so no other POD is a reality unfortunately.

    We both had Fyfe as C.

    What to do?

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  12. Projected to win by 80 but not confident! Have 2 trades and $64k
    PODs to oppo left are:
    Me – Taranto, Gaff & Houli
    Oppo – Hurn & Wingard

    Thinking of trading Taranto to Yeo or Worpedo.

    Opinions please

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  13. Hey coaches I’m predicted to get beat by 60.
    I have two PODS remaining . Greene and houli.

    Opp has darling, hurn, Williams and sheed.

    I am thinking of a hail Mary.
    Sicily out and either worpel or jelly in .
    Or just getting edwards as cover and loop holing if he somehow gets 150 again.

    Any other sneaky desperate plays today? Ideally I need a pod to score 150. Not asking alot really :/

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    1. By taking Sicily out I can take Answorths score. I would put my season on Jellys shoulders but just don’t know about first game back.
      And can worpel score 150 plus ?

      I have 2 trades and 70k

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  14. How would you rank these guys on how much they will score today

    Houli
    Williams
    Sicily
    Hurn

    Don’t know whether to even up uniques with 1 trade left…
    TIA

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  15. Richmond v West Coast

    LATE CHANGES
    Richmond: Nil
    West Coast: Will Schofield replaced in the selected side by Josh Rotham

    FINAL INTERCHANGES
    Richmond: Jason Castagna, Jack Ross, Mabior Chol, Liam Baker
    West Coast: Jack Redden, Oscar Allen, Jack Petruccelle, Josh Rotham

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    1. QT. WCE 7.1.43 RICH 3.1.19
      Darling 42. Jetta 38. McGovern 37. Allen 33. Yeo 35 Gaff 29 Hurn 28.
      Houli 28 Martin 26 Edwards 26 Bolton 26 Astbury 24

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      1. West Coast Eagles: 8.2.50 – Richmond Tigers: 6.5.41
        Much better quarter by Richmond. Riewoldt was denied a early mark and gave a free kick to Barrass which fired up the predominate Tigers crowd. It sparked Richmond,they kicked the next 4 goals before a another courageous mark and goal by Flyin’ Ryan stopped the momentum. Several horrible shot on goal by Tigers enabled Eagles to hold the lead at the long break. No rain as yet but looks ominous.

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  16. Greater Western Sydney v Western Bulldogs

    LATE CHANGES
    Greater Western Sydney: Shane Mumford (illness) replaced by Dawson Simpson
    Western Bulldogs: Tim English (illness) replaced by Lewis Young

    FINAL INTERCHANGES
    Greater Western Sydney: Jye Caldwell, Adam Tomlinson, Adam Kennedy, Sam Reid
    Western Bulldogs: Taylor Duryea, Sam Lloyd, Pat Lipinski, Will Hayes

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    1. I’m guessing this is our games thread this afternoon.

      Will post both HT and FT scores for RICvWCE and GWSvWBD on here.

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      1. Thanks Allsaints.
        I was just going to post highest scores for WCE – Richmond.HT. Appreciate that you will.

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  17. HALF-TIME SCORES

    Richmond Tigers: 6.5.41
    Dustin Martin 76
    Dylan Grimes 62
    Dion Prestia 56
    Brandon Ellis 50
    Shai Bolton 50
    Bachar Houli 49
    Shane Edwards 46
    Josh Caddy 40
    Tom J. Lynch 39
    Jason Castagna 35
    Nick Vlastuin 31
    Jack Riewoldt 27
    Ivan Soldo 27
    Jayden Short 26
    David Astbury 26
    Liam Baker 26
    Mabior Chol 24
    Nathan Broad 23
    Kane Lambert 22
    Daniel Rioli 21
    Jack Graham 19
    Jack Ross 13

    West Coast Eagles: 8.2.50
    Jeremy McGovern 68
    Shannon Hurn 64
    Andrew Gaff 63
    Elliot Yeo 60
    Tom Barrass 60
    Lewis Jetta 52
    Liam Ryan 49
    Jack Darling 49
    Willie Rioli 49
    Oscar Allen 46
    Jackson Nelson 44
    Luke Shuey 43
    Tom Hickey 39
    Brad Sheppard 37
    Josh J. Kennedy 33
    Josh Rotham 31
    Jack Redden 31
    Jack Petruccelle 23
    Dom Sheed 19
    Jamie Cripps 18
    Mark Hutchings 14
    Jake Waterman 14

    1695 pts allocated. That’s 45 over so needs to be scaled DOWN!

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