Motts Movers R3 – The Forwards

Written by Motts on April 13 2011

The Brownlows
Chris Dawes ($402,200, 113.00) – The main beneficiary of a rampant Pies midfield. He’s averaging 3 goals a game and only missed the ton against The Blues last week because Blair was going bananas (and receiving free kicks as a result of falling over after running into people – yes, I’m bitter).

Josh Hill ($369,100, 108.00) – OK so yes in his first 3 games he’s played the 2 teams that are widely expected to finish last and second last this year (and no, Essendon unfortunately isn’t one of them) but not everybody can score well against the Hats (see Giansiracusa, Daniel and Simpson, Kade). He hasn’t yet scored in anything less than 3 figures kicking 4 goals and getting a ton of kicks along the way. Has some tough games against Freo, the Pies and Sydney to come to I wouldn’t be jumping onto him just yet.

Nat Fyfe ($380,300, 101.67) – The Avatar struggled when the Cats came to visit only scoring 49 but his other 2 games have been sublime – 117 (Brisbane away) and 139 (Adelaide away). Is a M/F DPP making him even handier and its in the midfield that he’s getting the majority of his points. I heard on one of this week’s TV shows that before he got to Freo he struggled to get a game in the seconds at school. That’s a helluva improvement!

Honourable mentions: The Big 4 M/F DPP’s: ROK, Goodes, Higgins & Pav – all averaging over 100.

The Downlows
Tom Hawkins ($336,200, 47.33) – Still struggling to find his spot in the Geelong team. I’m starting to think he’d be better off at another club. Has 3 sub-60 scores to his name and only kicked one goal for the year.

Lynden Dunn ($339,000, 59.67) – A M/F DPP in his 6th year should score a lot higher than this. With or without a sh*tty mo’. Is kicking goals but has only laid 2 (!) tackles in 3 games and gave away 5 frees against Brisbane.

D Giansiracusa ($406,100, 62.67) – Has scores of 59, 83 and 46 next to his name – the last coming against The Suns – WTF is up with that?? Hasn’t averaged less than 85 over the last 3 seasons so he’ll probably turn it around but don’t go rushing him into your team just yet – he’s got the bye this week and his BE in R5 is 144 against Freo out west.

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  1. I’m lacking some fire power down forward, will need to consider some big changes if things don’t improve. Got Pav in the MID that’s about all from that lot.

    Motts – Finish this sentence …. Did i mention ….?

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  2. Good write up & advice Mottsy, been keeping a close eye on Hill don’t think he has been given enough oppurtunities at the doggies

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  3. The 4 honourable mention getters would be the only ones I’d pick from that entire list – You know what you’re getting each week from them.

    Had Gia last year, won’t have him again. Too inconsistent and there just aren’t enough weak teams in the comp for him to score well against anymore (see: Flat Track Bully).

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Motts Movers R3 – The Forwards

Written by Motts on April 12 2010

Almost everybody needs a decent forward this week so I thought I’d kick off MM’s for the round with the fellas up front. The blokes you really want to stay clear of are:

Kurt Tippett ($355,300, 31.67) – Congratulations on being at the top of this list in consecutive weeks, Kurt. KT dropped $70k this week vindicating my decision to trade him for Jon Brown (who went up $54k). Trades are gold but that’s a $125k turnaround. And then there’s the difference in scores…

Stephen Milne ($355,900, 51.67) – When not getting in opposition coaches’ faces and crumbing the occasional goal, Stevie hasn’t been doing much to earn SC points. He dropped 35k last week. Even if you’re a Saints fan, don’t go near him.

Tom Hawkins ($348,500, 52.67) – Tomahawk was once touted as “the next Carey”. He’s a massive unit, but he’s never really lived up to the hype. With Pods playing a great first game in Fremantle on Sunday and Mooney returning this week, Tomahawk may find his spot in the forward line under pressure.

OK and now for the bouquets. I’m going to critique the 3 top answers to today’s poll on who people are bringing in for Roo.

Jonathon Brown ($579,500, 147.33) – JB shows no sign of slowing down after kicking 17 goals so far this year to lead the Coleman and scoring 130, 171 and 141 over the first three rounds. His next 3 games are against the Dogs at the Gabba and then Melbourne and Sydney away. No-one appears to be able to stop him at the moment. $579k could even be considered cheap for him if he continues belting teams like he has been.

Ryan O’Keefe ($597,000, 132.00) – Can you believe Sydney almost traded this guy a year ago? He is a gun. Full stop. Will always score a ton for you and very often a lot more (had a 167 in R2). Will be facing North Melbourne, West Coast and Brisbane over the next three weeks. Toot toot!

Cyril Rioli ($417,700, 111.00) – I watched both the Delicious games live at the ground. In his first game he displayed flashes of brilliance. He caught Gary Ablett not once but twice 2 weeks ago and yesterday against the Dogs laid 6 tackles, kicked 4 goals and finished with 140 points. It looks as though the OP that bothered him in the pre-season has gone and because he’s only played 2 games his price hasn’t changed. With the Hawks facing the Pies, the Roos and the Dons over the next 3 weeks (with West Coast, Richmond and Carlton to follow) you could very easily see Cyril putting up some massive numbers. That price tag makes him very, very tempting too.

My pick of the 3 has got to be Cyril based on his value, his upside, and because, like Naitanui, you’ll just love watching him play knowing that he’s scoring for you.

I’ll leave the honourable and dishonourable mentions to the Commenters this week. Who’s on your watchlist and who’s jockstraps do you want to smear with Tiger balm?

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  1. Interesting to see ROK is playing Sydney in 3 weeks lol!!

    Honor – Harveys comeback – When he’s good he’s on
    Dish – Leon Davis – way out of form

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  2. worth a punt on didak? his gone down in price and you would think get better. i guess if i go qwith cyril then i can upgrade tippett for sandliands, or kreuzer with some change in my pocket

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    1. If you think Dids will improve, then well worth it. I tend to think last year was a bit of a fluke, especially that 3 or 4 week burst of crazy-good scores. I put him in the same bracket as Stevie J. Capable of anything in SC, but more often than not, average price for an average scorer.

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  3. I know he’s only a rookie but Carl Peterson sure looks like he belongs at this level – remember, like Delicious, he to caught GAJ in a HTB tackle.
    Wk 1 – 71pts in 57%TOG
    Wk 2 – 84pts against the reigning premiers in a losing side
    Wk 3 – 94pts against one of the flag fav’s in a losing side.
    Did I mention he was in my team? Feeling a bit of man love!!
    Can’t wait for Bruce to call Delicious and Scrumptious playing in the same team.

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      1. Motts, how about setting up a category for “Worst Trade Of the Year” A bloke in our league traded Harvey out for Reiwolt & made him captain. Massive turnaround in points that one

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        1. That is up there with one of the worst trades of all time given the performances of both players. I honestly don’t know why people didn’t cut Harvey a bit more slack.

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  4. Every bodies seems to be gettin aboard the Delicious Roller Coaster and believe me that’s want is going to be, highs one weeks and stomach wrenching lows the next and now with everyone talking him up makes me looking elsewhere for Roo’s replacement.

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    1. I think I understand what you mean, PA. You’re basically saying you’re not going to pick him up now. Didn’t you say earlier today that you were going to get a rookie anyway?

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      1. Nah,that was you (Rocky) i said i was going to put one of my guy’s off the pine this week and offload Rooey when a big gun’s has a shocker and their value decreases.

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        1. Correct. Rocky works for me because I’ve already got a pretty stacked forward line – ROK, JB, Gia, Waite, Higgins, JZ, Pods, Hitchcock – and a comparatively weak midfield (GAJ, Joel, Bryce, and 5 rookies). So I’ll bank $500k on the Roo trade and then grab a premium in the guts. Marc Murphy, I’ve got my eye on you already.

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          1. Go for it Motts! I did the same thing with my stacked backline instead of the eski I picked Silvagni now I have $550 K to upgrade a few of my 5 rookie mids.

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        2. So you are hoping that a big gun does a Delicious and goes roller coaster for a week… meaning that they are prone to similar fate, which would make Cyril a prospect, sorry just playing devils advocate.

          Really can’t see the point in losing points for a round or 2 or 3 on Roo when there are options to replace and lets face it you can pretty much have you like right now so why not go for it and risk missing a gun because they continue to have a big numbers and get out of the price range.
          I mean I know there are some handy bench players but someone like a Pods or a Hitchcock isn’t going to produce Roo like numbers you are looking a dropping 70-100 points a round. You can’t except a Pods to produce another >100 point this week.

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          1. Even if Rolly has a shocker this week he only needs 31to break even, now i think about it his price should go up by at least 30K barring a Rooey of course. I was looking long term where every one jumps off a big gun for one bad game i.e Harvey, and their price decreases and you might save over $100k, which will come in handy at the tail end of the season.

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  5. Too true! I am tossing a few ideas around, one is a double trade of the Voldt and Ballantyne for Pav and ROK. Ballantyne has given me the $30k I needed to get Pav in for him. (Most likely won’t do the Balla – Pav part, but thinking about it.)

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    1. ok if i drop Roo and Tippett i will have 955,000 something who should i get thinking about
      Higgins and Roughead or Rioli

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          1. I guess your easiest choices would be Grundy and Houli…..maybe a tougher one would even be Stevie J (if you think he’s going to come good).

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  6. Who would you dump…
    Stevie J ($451,400 avg 78)
    Gia ($424,400 avg 71)
    Walker ($256,100 avg 61)

    Seriously thinking about making 2 trades this week (yes, I am addicted), trying to think of every option.

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  7. You reckon Martin might contest the reprimand? Doubt it, but if he does he might miss a week. I know he’s not a forward, but it’s relevant to me cause I could dump him for ROK and Voldt for Rioli. Not quite enough cheese for Brennan instead of Rioli on those trades.

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  8. Unbelievably, Relton Roberts needs to better his previous 2 scores to cause his price to rise from a rock-bottom $83,400. He can be thankful for the 4-player suspension by Richmond. Hardwick could’ve noticed, however, that Knights got a positive result from axing 6 players including an unlucky Howlett.

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      1. Just did a scan of the Bombers board on Bigfooty and not too many were tipping a Howlett return. However, I don’t think many would’ve tipped last week’s changes. He didn’t make the BPs for Bendigo, neither (Hurley did, for those considering him).

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  9. Adam Mcphee should get a dishonourable mention, getting a 3 year contract from Freo and hasn’t fired a shot in the first 3 rounds avg 33.3 ppg is well down on his 81 ppg last year. I don’t have him in my side but for the unfortunates that do get rid of him asap.

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    1. I had him in one of my many preseason versions but thankfully, sanity prevailed…………and his NAB form was not overly enticing.

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  10. Just a quick flash-back to my repeated Brown for the Brownlow and Coleman calls over the last couple of weeks (in my defence cause yawl scoffed!)…

    AFLCA Champion player of the year points after Rd 3
    27 Jonathan Brown (BL)
    19 Nick Riewoldt (STK)
    19 Aaron Sandilands (FRE)
    18 Ben McGlynn (SYD)
    15 Michael Barlow (FRE)
    15 Ryan Griffen (WB)
    14 Gary Ablett (GEEL)
    14 Sam Gilbert (STK)
    14 Matthew Pavlich (FRE)

    Now, I haven’t done the research on how often the AFLCA champion player has also been the Brownlow, but it’s a pretty early indication of Brown’s dominance compared to other dominant players in the 1st 3 rounds. He is probably on 8 or 9 Brownlow votes I’d reckon.

    Goals after Rd 3:
    17 Jonathan Brown
    11 Jarryd Roughead
    11 Nick Riewoldt
    10 Matthew Pavlich
    9 Setanta O’hAilpin
    8 David Hale
    8 Josh Kennedy

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      1. Woah you’re right! The stats summary on the front page of http://www.afl.com.au was way off the mark, missing Fev on 9 and McGlynn on 8. It was all fixed up when I clicked in to the stats page itself though. The scary thing for the competition though is Brown is on 17.4…that is pretty damned accurate!

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  11. Do people fully understand the DPP rule, I see all these coaches who say I’ve got him and his a DPP but little do they know the only way DPP works is when you 2 players in different positions. For example Luke Hodge D/M DPP and Brendon Goddard D/M DPP now for this to work you must have one in your backline and the other in your Midfield, you can’t have both in the same position it just not going to work.

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    1. I think a lot of people made that mistake, Big Fan. Hope it bites em on the ass especially when their MIDS go down.

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      1. i think i’m going to make these trades this week
        Tippett-Gwilt
        Roo- Brown
        or
        Tippett- Roughead
        Roo- Harvey

        Which one??

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          1. Hurley is still a unknown commodity give him 2 weeks his price won’t change, he might not even play this week. If you don’t like Reg then go for JB and Rolly combo.

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          2. u dont have a premium so get JB or ROK for Roo. If KT dont play then bench him and look at rockliff. he could be value/cash cow to trade down to next week. you will have a keeper, some cash, and save a trade,

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  12. y the fuck is every one asking motts all the questions wat the fuck would motts know about supercoach he is just a know it all that is trying to give out some stupid advice he isnt even in the top 1000 most of you guys that use this site would know more about supercoach then him so stop asking stupid questions like who should i trade because most of u guys would have more of a clue then this motts dick head

    so go shove it up your fucking hole u fucking stupid retard

    tell me if you agree with me

    cheers michael

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    1. maybe cause he runs a footy site, attends games does more reaseach then most of us, so i’m guessing he knows a lot. Most likely more than you!!!

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    2. After all, look how mysterious and knowledgeable he looks behind his Carlton scarf.

      Either that or the guy sitting next to him just farted.

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    3. Mickey
      Although I get better intel from Walesy’s TS and Monty’s FF sites I still enjoy visiting SCT and sometimes contributing as I think it has considerably more character and diversity.
      If you have an issue with the author of this site and his expertise then there are more appropriate ways to vent this. Bottom line is no one is an SC expert as Chris (Buster Gonad) is finding this year. Absolute bottom line is if you don’t like what you’re reading then use your mouse and flock off.

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    4. He must had traded out Boomer for Rooey and then made Rooey his captain against the pies, that’s why Mad Mike is taking it out on Mottsy.

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  13. Motts, whadya reckon about Roo for ROK and Medhurst for Rioli? Still leaves me with some cheese in the pantry. Do you see Medhurst improving?

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    1. I really like both those trades. Medhurst may improve but Delicious will improve a hell of a lot more. The only risk is: will his OP return. Judging by how he’s been running in the first couple of games I reckon the Hawks are managing it really well.

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  14. Re: Michael thinks Motts is a retard.

    Michael , for a person to pen such a lovely post as you have written above I am assuming the following

    A) You are aged somewhere between 13-16
    B) You have an extremely low IQ
    C) You stopped pulling yourself for 5 minutes to actually type , well done!
    D) you dont get out much , are socially retarded and therefoe abuse poeple on websites

    or E) All of the above

    I am wagering it is (E) , you my friend are a first class DICKHEAD , if you dont want to be on this site and be constructive then f*ck off and annoy some other people on some other site

    Moron !

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    1. Don’t think we’ll hear back from Michael tonight. His mum would have sent him to bed with his bottle a couple of hours ago.

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  15. just like to say motts really enjoy your site and the effort you put in and i think you should just ignore the person that is saying all this shit

    i said this before but i think we should have poll

    how many trades have you got left for the rest of the season

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  16. Dear Michael,

    Please provide us with your team name so we can all see how a real Supercoach player operates? I have spent my entire fantasy football career looking for a mentor that is not just intelligent but someone who can write a paragraph as a sentence without punctuation or even a capital letter. You sure that text message wasnt meant for your 14 year old girlfriend?

    What you have failed to understand Mikey is that a website like this is designed to be a place where like minded individuals can gather and share ideas, thoughts or just plain enthusiasm. Motts is not a guru and doesn’t expect to be treated as such. He is one man with one opinion and just like our great game of Australian Rules Football…he is completely open to interpretation.

    Your inbred angst which is no doubt directly linked to having left school at 11 and being confused as to whether to introduce your Mum as your Mum or as your girlfriend is simlply not welcome here. Try being a little more constructive in future. If you put as much effort into looking for a job as you do writing ill directed inane rubbish on websites you obviously feel a little left out of when reading…you my friend would have a bright future.

    How about rather than writing things like that you add something constructive, give us some insight, let us hear something to back up your prowess? What was that, I cant hear you….just as I thought, peanut. Nothing.

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  17. Hi Motts,

    A have a few trade questions for you, could you please (as always) provide me with some much needed wisdom 🙂

    With the Riewoldt trade option I was thinking of trading in either Jon Brown or Pavlich. I was also thinking or down-grading Buddy Frankiln and picking up Cyril Rioli in his place.

    What do you think?

    See ya later,
    Leesa.

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    1. I’d pick JB over Pav right now, Leesa.

      And hold off on trading Buddy out. I understand the desire for Delicious Cyril but Lance will be back in a weeks time. Save the trade.

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