Its a special week this week. I’m going to give you the punters the opportunity to write the Movers column. (I feel like Robbo on Twitter with his Likes/ Dislikes and WWYRB).
In Comments, give me your best Defenders – premiums, mid pricers, and value picks. Feel free to even say a couple of words about why you chose ‘em too. Or don’t. Completely up to you.
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PREMIUM
Heath Shaw … repaying the faith
Brett Deledio … would almost warrant a place on your MIDFIELD
MID-PRICERS
Scott Thompson … could be a good pickup for the R12 BYE
Greg Broughton … also repaying the faith
VALUE
Lee Spurr … probably the only real downgrade option this week
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Nice work, DJ!
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Welcome good sir.
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My biggest mistake so far was trading shaw to carazzo the week he went down. Heater is really starting to rub my nose in it now. I guess I could swallow my pride and bring him back…… Maybe later if I have any trades
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Gone a little bot left of centre…
Premiums
Troy Chaplin – Last 3 round ave: 105
Beau Waters – Last 3 round ave: 104.67
Scott D. Thompson – Last 3 round ave: 101.33
Mid-Pricers
Hargrave and Lake – Last 3 round ave: 101 and 94.67 respectively
Matt Maguire – Last 3 round ave: 92.33
Luke McPharlin – Last 3 round ave: 88.33
Rookies
Cameron Delaney – Last 3 round ave: 68
Jacob Brennan – Last 3 round ave: 67
Lee Spurr – Last 3 round ave: 60
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Excellent work! Is The Don!, is good.
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Premo – cant go past God and Lids for your premos.
Mids pricers- birch and suckling will have bottomed out for the year with both around $470k. A bit cheaper, the pre season faves of lake, Hargrave, Conca and Clarke are all scoring well but have gone up a bit in $.
Value Picks- Not too much value around after those. The rookies in Spurr and Brennan are both looking ok – with questionable JS.
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MegaMan’s Movers? Its got a nice ring to it….
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Premiums
B.Deledio average 118, $591,600
A. Rance average 101, $474,900
M.Johnson average 93.75, $434, 900
Mid Pricers
S.Dempster average 85.14, $382,800
T.Bugg average 77.10, $335,600
Value Picks
T.Mohr average 70, $284,100
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M.Johnson with the Def / Forw DPP is certainly having a great year with FURL giving him a great SC scoring role.
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Lenny’s Movers R7 – The Backs
Premiums
Brendan Goddard ($504,900, 107.00, 66) – Very reliable, just keeps delivering week in week out.
Heath Shaw ($530,200, 105.4, 52) – Starting to hit full gear.
Grant Birchall ($475,800, 95.4, 101) – Hawthorn’s short passing game style very much suits Birch. I suggest get on! (Not just because i’m a Hawks fan..
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Midpricers
Paul Duffield ($456,700), 94, 86) – Playing a role under Ross Lyon where he finds plenty of the footy. Worth considering as a POD.
Scott Thompson ($474,400, 98.1, 60) – I would stay away, but once to keep an eye on.
Chris Newman ($468,400, 89.4, 71) – In a side that is finally stringing some wins together on a regular basis, he will be determined to keep standing up.
Value Picks
Lee Spurr ($116,700, 60, -51) – Mature age, solid downgrade option for Bugg/Ellis.
Jacob Brennan ($113,200, 67, -67) – No convinced on his job security, but will make some cash if he gets a few more games.
Beau Wilkes ($106,600, 44, -25) – Hard at the footy, if he can secure a place in the side, will be a slow burner but should keep improving.
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PA’s Roughie
Dylan “Optimus” Grimes ($366,100, 109, 26) — Avg 100 in his last 2 and looks solid down back with Rance and Newy helping out.
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getting a fair bit of media attention too. Heard someone today refer to Rance & him as Batman & Robin.
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Which one’s Robin?
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Yep – Looks like most people picked the wrong Grimes for their backline at the start of the year.
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Bugg > birchall is looking pretty good right now
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Advisable to have Suckling and Birchall in the same team?
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Dazza’s Dazzling Movers -Backs
Premiums
Brendan Goddsrd-$504,900 Avg:107.0 Last 4:93,58,120,113
This Guy is a gun if you dont have him by now you have got rocks in your head he proved lastyear that he can score you 100 even if his havin a shocker but this year his been alot more consistant.
Brett Deledio-$591,600 Avg:118.1 Last 4:102,129,143,100
Mr reliable dont have to worry about this guy playin a bad game because that rarely happens.Just like Goddard he should be another player you should have.
Heath Shaw-$530,200 Avg:105.4 Last 2:120,136
I know this guys only been back for 2 games from injury but hard to ignore those scores.
Midpricers
Alex Rance $474,900 Avg:101.6 Last 4:86,91,98,108
Playing some good footy but next 4 weeks will test him with games against Bombers,Hawks,Saints,and Dockers. I would keep an eye on him for the next 2 weeks and if he produces the goods jump on.
Beau Waters $465,900 Avg:94.3 Last 4:100,100,120,96
Having another solid year and is a bargain at that price.
Scott Thompson $474,400 Avg:98.1 Last 4:112,83,104,117
Havnt heard much about this guy not sure why because take away that 83 v Gold Coast and his scores for the last month look really impressive and his next 4 games arnt the toughest either Power,Lions,Hawks,Gold Coast.
Value Picks
Lee Spurr $116,700 Avg:60.0 Last 2:50,70
Not many good Downgrade options but if your lookin to cash in on Ellis whos BE might be startin to get out of reach Spurrs the one to bring in as he has played 2 games and is set for a price hike but wait to see if he gets named this week as there could be a question mark over his JS.
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Superb write-up!!
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If Rance’s next 4 games (against Bombers, Hawks, Saints and Dockers) are going to “test him”, would you say that is actually MORE of a test than his games played thus far against Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, West Coast and Sydney … during which he has averaged 104 SC points ?
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Alex Rance last 4 Games
Geelong 86, West Coast 91, Port Adelaide 98 Sydney, 108
IMO Geelong havnt been in great form Port Adelaide are hopless i didnt watch the Swans v Tigers match but i heard the Tigers were all over them shouldve won by more and being in Melbourne wouldve helped his score.Westcoast on the other hand wouldve been a big test in which he scored 91 but the next 3 weeks in particular will be a huge test Bombers are flying, Hawks are starting to play some good footy and Saints just knocked off the flafg favourites and then he has freo.
As for Carlton and Collingwood i dont think there going as well as would like though Collingwoods startin to hit some good form.
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I don’t think you quite understood my point, which was that Rance has actually done BETTER against the better teams (Collingwood, West Coast, Carlton, Geelong and Sydney Swans) – average of 104sc points, than he has against the worst teams (Port Adelaide and Melbourne) where he has averaged 96SC points. If – as you state – Geelong “haven’t been in great form”, then this actually makes my point even more pronounced because that would mean against the good teams (Coll, WC, Carl, and Syd.) his average actually INCREASES to 108sc points per round, and his scores against the “out of form” teams (Melb, Port and Geelong) decreases to 92 sc points – this doesn’t help your argument, it works against it … as it shows even MORE dramatically that Rance performs better against the better teams than he does against the worst. This means that it should HELP him, not “test” him, to be playing teams you consider good over the next 4 rounds. This was what I was stating previously.
So it seems your point is that Hawthorn, Fremantle, St Kilda and Fremantle are in better form than Collingwood, Carlton, Geelong, West Coast and Sydney !! Checked the ladder recently ?
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PS – You can’t argue opposite points in one comment ie. You can’t say Rance performing well against Carlton isn’t significant as Carlton “aren’t going as good as they would like”, and at the same time argue St Kilda is a tough game as they just beat Carlton (“the premiership favourites”) who you said aren’t playing well. These are opposite arguments – either Carlton are bad (and Rance playing well against them is not significant and St Kilda is not a tough game as they just beat an out of form team) OR Carlton are “premiership favourites” (a good team) therefore St Kilda beating them shows St Kilda is also a good team, therefore Rance playing well against Carlton shows he plays well against the good teams.
Anyway – it is not even a given that a defender is disadvantaged by playing against a good team (any more than a Ruckman shakes in his boots about playing Collingwood or Hawthorn – who cares if they are “good teams” if they don’t have a good opposition Ruck you will be playing against ?). This is just common sense – playing against a “tough team” does not disadvantage all players and all positions equally and may actually help some (why are GWS putting so many of their good players in the backline ? Because that’s where the ball will be).
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Now is the time to get Goddard. Less 80k from the start of the year and a reasonable BE. So made a good decision not get him from the get go
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Depends of course J-Rod how many points you could have lost in those 7 rounds.
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Well where I didn’t spend big in the defense I spent more in other areas to have made up for it. But yes it could have came back and bit me on the arse. And hard!
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Max Movers- Defence
Premiums:
Brett Deledio: ($591,600) – Last 3 round ave: 124
One word to describe him- Gun! Will be the highest scoring defender for sure by the seasons end.
Heath Shaw: ($530,200)- Last 3 round ave: 120-
Glad I kept him. Starting to repay some faith.
Beau Waters: ($465,900)- Last 3 round ave: 104.7
Quite a solid average. Keep in mind he has had an easy draw thus far.
Midpricers:
Scott Thompson: ($474,400)- Last 3 round ave: 101.3
Considering bringing him in this week for a POD.
Brian Lake: ($388,700)- Last 3 round ave: 94.7
Starting to hit some form. Should be a keeper for most sides.
Michael Johnson: (434,900) – Last 3 round ave: 87.3
Very unique and is playing a fantasy relevant roll under Lyon.
Value Picks:
Lee Spurr: ($116,700) Last 2 round ave: 60
Best out of these three to bring in IMO. Good job security and mature aged.
Jacob Brennan: ($113,200) Last 2 round ave: 67
Not completely sure about his JS but solid average.
Beau Wilkes:($106,600) Last 2 round ave: 44
Should remain in the side, but can’t see him averaging much.
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Another excellent piece of analysis! Great stuff, Maxi!
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I love it how Beau Waters is in your “Premiums” section and Scott Thompson is in your “Mid-Pricers” section, and Thommo is worth more than Beau
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Thumbs up: bugg to birch
Thumbs down: Gibbs to Stanton
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Mouseman it could be difficult if you have other players with the round 13 bye (Lids, Goddard, Scotland for example)
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Dazz hit the nail on the head with the 3 prems of Goddard, Deledio & Shaw. Got all 3, but these 3 defo the must have prems IMO.
5 reasons to get Goddard if you don’t have him:-
1/ @ $504,900 he is never to be repeated value – BE of only 66
2/ Only remaining MCG games in Round 19 & 20.
3/ Round 13 bye means you have in 11 & 12 & can up-grade others to cover in Rnd 13
4/ Def / Mid DPP (however Rich, Carlton & Hawks share Rnd 13 bye)
5/ Final 4 games v Melb, Geelong, GWS & Carlton (& unlikely to be rested).
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Matty’s Round 7 Movers
Defenders
Ok assuming everyone has Deledio and Goddard (if you don’t GET THEM NOW!) here’s what I think:
Premiums:
Heath Shaw $530, 200. Average 105. Break-even 63. Last 2 games (after a injury forced lay off) 120 & 142.
The only reason Heater wasn’t in my starting team is because i got burnt like many in his suspension last year, also I hate collingwood. But I will be making room for him this week.
Heath Scotland $528 000. Average 101. Break-even 133. Last 3 games 106, 93, 97.
Considering bringing in this guy this week but don’t know how long he will be playing before he gets locked up! Is a mid/def. Defying his age by still having a solid start to the year.
Mid-Pricers
Brian Lake $388 700. Average 83. Break-even 39. Last 3 games 85, 91, 108.
If you jumped on this guy from the start you’d be one happy guy. Dosnt look like he’ll get back to the high scores of 2010 but starting to look solid. Not to late to jump on.
Ryan Hargrave $385 200. Average 84. Break-even 43. Last 3 games 110, 95, 98.
Once again a bargain pre round 1. Starting to hit form and still has money to be made or even could be a keeper.
Bargains:
Lee Spurr $116 700. Average 60. Break-even -49. Last 2 games 50 & 70. Looks to have almost cemented himself into the freo line up. Looks to be a great pick up for anyone looking to downgrade.
Jacob Brennan $113 200. Average 67. Break-even -65. Last 2 games 47 & 87.
Father/Son pick up and a favorite down at the eagles. Will get alot of game time this year now that he’s proven he can play. Check the team sheet this week, with scofield and selwood coming back he could be omitted or worse…subbed. Lee Spurr looks a better SC Prospect.
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Top stuff, Matty!
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Nice write up Matteo.
I think I am going to jump on Spurr too. He would have been in most teams had he had a better pre-season.
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Cheers guys defenatly doing my Bugg/Ellis to heater, not sure if I should also do Bugg/Ellis to scotland or Shiels to Stanton
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As this is more related to Defenders, I thought I would chuck it in here:
Okay, who is the better guy to trade out (consider job security as well):
Ellis (Average: 50, BE 69… next 3: Ess, Haw, St.K) – Thumbs Up
Bugg (Average: 78, BE 82… next 3: Bris, Ess, Geel) – Thumbs Down
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Ellis
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I have three players down back who will share the rd11 bye. So I am tempted to keep Ellis and trade Bugg (or Shiel in mids) purely for that reason. The good thing with Ellis is I think the Tigers will play him all season so he should be a safe 50 points bench cover if he is not the sub (I think they just rested the young fella this week).
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Think Bugg will get a break this week.
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Now, who is the better bloke to trade in (also consider job security):
Spurr (Average: 60, BE -48… next 3: Haw, Wce, Ade) – Thumbs Up
Brennan (Average 67, BE -64… next 3: St. K, Fre, Bris) – Thumbs Down
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Got $477.7 in the bank think it’s time to double upgrade (I have 17 trades)
Bugg (BE 82, Avg 78) to Birchall
Shiel (BE 53, Avg 66) to Pendlebury
Leaves me with about $10k
Thumbs up – Good idea
Thumbs down – Pendles can wait a week, get Spurr, trade Ellis, save your trades
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Thinking of upgrading Ellis to Value Prem Defender (got Godd, Shaw, Lids & Broughton). Votes & thoughts would be appreciated: –
Thumb UP: – Newman (Mr Consistant). $468,440, BE 71, Ave 89, 5w ave-92, 3w ave-98
Predicted good scores in tough upcoming games with Ess (103), Hawks (102), St-Kilda (105) & Freo (95) before GWS & Rnd 13 bye.
Final 4 games of WB, Freo, Ess & Port.
Thumb DOWN: – Duffield. (Mr Up & Down) $456,700, BE86 , 2 scores in x 50′s, 2 x 90′s, 2 x 110′s & 1 x 130.
Hawks, WC, Adel, Rich then Rnd 12 bye.
Good draw after the bye – WB, Melb, GSW, Port, WC, Adel, Rich, NM & Melb
Also, had a close look at Birchall ($475,800 BE92), Rance ($474,900 BE76) & Burgoyne ($404,000 BE 78, Def / Mid DPP) who i think are all unders at the moment.
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Matt Suckling could be a good choice lowest score of 76 has 3 tonnes
Avg-94.4 BE-107. Last 4:120,82,76,103
Maybe one to keep an eye on…
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Thanks Dazz. Will give him more thought in the future. Don’t know why, just never fancied him (maybe because i did not get on him early last year), even though his long, effective kicks are perfect for SC.
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Has the time come to upgrade Bugg?? Please let me know!
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I think its about time Coleman ill be making the trade next week already got my trades sorted for this week
Goodes>Zaka
Ellis>Spurr
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trading ellis this week but to who?
Shaw -> Gun will leave me with 16k
Duffield -> had him in previous yrs and has burnt me so didnt select him this yr and been ok will leave me with 90k
Waters -> having gun yr very consistant will be roughly 80k left to spend
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Why has no one mentioned Cameron Delaney? He has a better average that Spurr and Brennan and has been picked on the ground. Thoughts??
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Thoughts on upgrading BUGG?
I have no problems in salary.
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I like Scotland but he will most likely drop further next week. I’m gonna wait one more week on Bugg
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Need some advice people….
Sitting top of my league with 16 trades left and $430K in the bank.
Looking at the following trade for this week:
Bugg – Birchall
A. Kennedy – Chapy
Make the trade thumbs up
Sit on it for a while thumbs down
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