Quick Reminder

Written by Motts on April 6 2010

If you do plan on trading this week leave it until Thursday night. Players values are not going to change between now and then and they could miss out on selection for any one of a number of reasons: injury at training, infection (see M McVeigh) or they may just fall over in the bathroom on a Tuesday and fracture their skull (right, Mr Gibson?).

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  1. And I’ve gotta give a quick shout-out to Justine and Richard who I met around a teppanyaki bar on Sunday night. These guys are SERIOUS supercoaches who think nothing of sleeping in til 2pm, turning on the TV in the bedroom, firing up fanfooty and then watching a match from bed with the stats in front of them throwing in the occasional bourbon for good measure as they watch. Respect.

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  2. Just wondering how many coaches are planning to downgrade an underperforming ruckman to Seaby, then using the profit to upgrade an underperforming forward?

    I reckon there’s a lot of us.

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  3. u should really wait until friday night where you get to see sunday’s final teams as well as any late changes in the saints v magpies game. Peace out.

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  4. I am thinking of taking Seaby for Clark… A big call, and have to determien whether the trade is worth it – at the stage I am leaning ehavily, because then I have the choice of Cox/Sandilands at about Round 6 for either Seaby or Hille (depending on form)… And if Clark bounces back, I’ll still make the cash from Seaby but will cost me 2 trades.
    Kicking myself because I had Seaby and Sandilands in my team at one point, and went the gamble on Clark after his outstanding NAB Cup results.
    Any thoughts?

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  5. Yeah definitely waiting till friday to make my trades. Though its just so hard! really wanna make the trades now! 🙂

    These are my two options (i have 28k in bank)
    1. Backline bench trade M.Farmer for Silvagni – free’s up 76,100. Then with that and the money in bank trade Tippet for J Brown.

    2. Make two forward line trades. As this is my weekest spot. Trade Hall down to Ballantyne and Tippet up to Brown.

    Thoughts?

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  6. I know it’s not the smartest thing to do this early in the week, but I’ve already traded out Jolly and Tippett. Just seeing their names on my team sheet boils my blood . . . getting rid of them as soon as I could was the closest thing to giving them a spray (I don’t have their phone numbers).

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  7. I need advice. I’m new to this and I have in my forward line T. Rockcliff, J. Podsladly and R. Gray. All of which are yet to put up any points. I made similar mistakes and chose players which weren’t selected and so have already used two trades.
    This means that this week I missed out on having a forward position rack up any points. Am I best to make a trade now, or wait it out?

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  8. ok guys i’ve got a dilemma.
    Do i trade out Deledio for Dangerfield which then frees up cash so i can trade out Ziebell for Brown.
    Or should i stick with Ziebell. then swap Deledio for say cross and then maybe trade out ball?
    p.s. i’m gonna stick with harvey who will bounce back and also stick with tippy who is in my ruck so i can’t swap him for brown…

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  9. yeah man got a few. macdonald down back is a bit of a worry. but i’ve got coverage with silvagni and maquire

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  10. yep exactly right. somehow i left franklin on the pine for gumbleton this week but it didn’t cost me! i just really want to offload deledio now. ball should get better you would think. my forward line would look great with Riewoltd, ROK, Brown, Franklin, Harvey and Medhurst

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  11. Im trading Harvey for O’keefe and Burgoyne for Howlett for 300,000 left over then i can upgrade for Goddard and J. Brown. My rucks are Hille and Naitanui.

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  12. im having a dilema which two players should i trade out this week

    1.luke ball
    2.simon goodwin
    3.boomer harvey
    4.sam mitchell
    5.dont trade anyone

    they are all gonna cost me money unless they pull off a huge score this week

    who do use guys reckon i should trade out any suggestions?

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  13. Got a couple of points here boys…

    First of all, I couldn’t look at Kirt Tippett once more in my forward line so he’s been ousted with Big Roughy taking his spot. I know it’s only Tuesday, but he’s really dissapointed me so far after promising to be the revelation of the year up forward!

    Secondly, I’m having a massive heart/head crisis with Benny Cousins. Now, I’ve got the power on my bench to cover for him being injured so that’s not really a concern. My problem is deciding whether or not to trade him out for someone like Barlow (my #2 ranked Cash Cow from last month’s article – Big tick on that one!) and use the extra cash to trade up another forward or stick fat with him, when he plays he scores very well and is worth every cent.

    Benny’s been in every one of my SC teams since I started out, has been a solid contributor, more than solid actually, averaging mid-high 90’s at least. But has the time come to part ways with the great man? I’ve already had to accept that Richo won’t be my big marking forward this year, I’m not sure that I can cope with losing Cuzz aswell!

    Someone talk me into some sense..!

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  14. I have $114300 in the bank and i am still to make a trade should i trade Grey/Tippett for Brown before his price goes up? I already have Rooey/chapman /hall/tippett/peterson/hitchcock/Dangerfield. Gumby/grey

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  15. Seems as though everyone will be making similar trades by the end of the week, meaning we all start to look the same. I’m guilty – I’ve already traded in JB and Seaby (like a lot of others will). Does anyone have any other ‘unique’ trade ideas they’re willing to share?

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  16. I have D.Martin,L.Shuey,J.Trengove,and R. Bastinac as my midfield rookies. One must go to make way for Barlow any suggestions as to who it should be. They have all showed some promise but i must sacrifice one.

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  17. In my opinion, I think you should use 4-6 trades within the first 5 rounds to fine tune your side and try to save some coin for later in the season.

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  18. Thoughts on Ball>Cooney?
    I could wait 1 more week to see if ball lives up to his pre season expectations by getting at least 100+ and wait 1 more week also to see if Cooney can reproduce another 170 performance because his 1st round performance aint too good. But then again if i dont trade this round and ball does shocking and his price goes down to 350-400k, and cooney does a stunner and gets another 150+. He would then be 500k+ thats going to take 2 trades to bring him in instead of ball, rather than trading now straight up because theres only a 30k diff in price between them now and i have 30k.

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  19. Like many others I’m looking to offload Tippett before he plummets in value. The obvious trade is a straight out with Kruez, who is looking like he is going to have a good year. And the other option I am considering is going for Seaby instead and upgrading Gray for either ROK or big J Brown. Although I have a few concerns about whether Seaby can maintain his form, and also whether it is a good idea using 2 trades this early in the season to get rid of players that are still on the park.

    What does everyone think is the smartest move??

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  20. i just traded out Rhys Shaw for Malceski which gave me cash to trade medhurst for J. Brown! Win Win I hope! Rhys shaw was giving me the shitts averaging 60 after two games, piss pore for a 500k player

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  21. Alright, I know I shouldn’t have done it so early, but I already swung the giant, blood-stained, a little bit rusty axe. Jolly and Tippett out, Seaby and ROK in. Happy with that.

    Will stick by Ball, Pav and Harvey. They’re in for the season, therefore, I won’t lose money on them!

    Jolly and Tippett are set to lose BIG $$$’s! I think Jolly will be in the ball park of $50-80k, Tippett $30-60k.

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Quick Reminder

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If you do plan on trading this week leave it until Thursday night. Players values are not going to change between now and then and they could miss out on selection for any one of a number of reasons: injury at training, infection (see M McVeigh) or they may just fall over in the bathroom on a Tuesday and fracture their skull (right, Mr Gibson?).

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  1. And I’ve gotta give a quick shout-out to Justine and Richard who I met around a teppanyaki bar on Sunday night. These guys are SERIOUS supercoaches who think nothing of sleeping in til 2pm, turning on the TV in the bedroom, firing up fanfooty and then watching a match from bed with the stats in front of them throwing in the occasional bourbon for good measure as they watch. Respect.

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  2. Just wondering how many coaches are planning to downgrade an underperforming ruckman to Seaby, then using the profit to upgrade an underperforming forward?

    I reckon there’s a lot of us.

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    1. I’m thinking of swapping Tippy for Seaby for the f/l upgrade (Walker for Ballantyne) but, I also like the idea of straight swapping for Kreuzer.

      I’m wondering whether Seaby will continue to increase in value, or if last week was a one off.

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  3. u should really wait until friday night where you get to see sunday’s final teams as well as any late changes in the saints v magpies game. Peace out.

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      1. You’re right, PA, in an ideal world we’d all be sitting at the laptop at 5pm on a Friday waiting for Sunday’s teams to come out with our mouses hovering over the T next to names of players we’re about to usher out the back door. Unfortunately many people find other activities demand their attention at that time of the week which was why I suggested Thursday evenings above. The point remains the same: don’t trade early in the week!

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  4. I am thinking of taking Seaby for Clark… A big call, and have to determien whether the trade is worth it – at the stage I am leaning ehavily, because then I have the choice of Cox/Sandilands at about Round 6 for either Seaby or Hille (depending on form)… And if Clark bounces back, I’ll still make the cash from Seaby but will cost me 2 trades.
    Kicking myself because I had Seaby and Sandilands in my team at one point, and went the gamble on Clark after his outstanding NAB Cup results.
    Any thoughts?

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  5. Yeah definitely waiting till friday to make my trades. Though its just so hard! really wanna make the trades now! 🙂

    These are my two options (i have 28k in bank)
    1. Backline bench trade M.Farmer for Silvagni – free’s up 76,100. Then with that and the money in bank trade Tippet for J Brown.

    2. Make two forward line trades. As this is my weekest spot. Trade Hall down to Ballantyne and Tippet up to Brown.

    Thoughts?

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  6. I know it’s not the smartest thing to do this early in the week, but I’ve already traded out Jolly and Tippett. Just seeing their names on my team sheet boils my blood . . . getting rid of them as soon as I could was the closest thing to giving them a spray (I don’t have their phone numbers).

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      1. Yep. I’ve now got $176,000 in the bank for future upgrades (esp. if Seaby plateaus). More importantly, I’ve got peace of mind!

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        1. I reckon its a good trade, and, that you’ll score more points in 2 positions.
          I’ve heard that Tippy has a knee, so, I am certainly going to trade him, am leaning toward Seaby (as opposed to Kruezer).
          If Seaby continues to appreciate there is the opportunity to trade him for Cox in about 4 weeks when he is match fit, and cheaper.

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  7. I need advice. I’m new to this and I have in my forward line T. Rockcliff, J. Podsladly and R. Gray. All of which are yet to put up any points. I made similar mistakes and chose players which weren’t selected and so have already used two trades.
    This means that this week I missed out on having a forward position rack up any points. Am I best to make a trade now, or wait it out?

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    1. My forward line is already kinda lacking with B. Hall, P. Medhurst, J. Ziebell, C. Hitchcock and M. Pavlich all putting up pretty bad numbers this week.

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    2. Rocky should be in the team this week, with his 40+ posses plus 5 goals. Plus adcock is injured and brennan is going to miss a week.

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      1. Yeah? Ok will hold out on that one. But what are your thoughts on getting rid of Gray for someone cheaper who is performing well, so as to free up cash to trade Pav for O’Keefe?
        Is it too soon to be making such trades?

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        1. Pav is in the bracket of players that once you’ve picked them, stick with them unless they’re injured. Form and scores, for any player, will fluctuate but for the upper echelon, their scores will eventually average out to 100+. He is a proven performer – stick with him and save your trades for making cash from rookies and upgrading mid-level players (not to mention dreaded injuries).

          That all sounds very good in theory, but I truly understand the frustrations that go with piss-poor performances from players you forked out big-time for. Believe me, my mouse is firmly poised over a couple of ‘T’ icons.

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        2. Gray might be back this week, he has a fitness test tomorrow so just hang on til you know the final teams.

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  8. ok guys i’ve got a dilemma.
    Do i trade out Deledio for Dangerfield which then frees up cash so i can trade out Ziebell for Brown.
    Or should i stick with Ziebell. then swap Deledio for say cross and then maybe trade out ball?
    p.s. i’m gonna stick with harvey who will bounce back and also stick with tippy who is in my ruck so i can’t swap him for brown…

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    1. Good onya for sticking with Harvey and I wouldn’t give up on JZ just yet . . . we can’t fix all our poor pre-season decisions. I’d firstly make sure you have all the right rookies (cash-cows) in your team.

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  9. yeah man got a few. macdonald down back is a bit of a worry. but i’ve got coverage with silvagni and maquire

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    1. Well you don’t need to worry then. Most of us have got good-performing bench players which means we save a trade. The question each week is who to put on the field and who to name as an emergency . . . but that comes down to luck a lot of the time.

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  10. yep exactly right. somehow i left franklin on the pine for gumbleton this week but it didn’t cost me! i just really want to offload deledio now. ball should get better you would think. my forward line would look great with Riewoltd, ROK, Brown, Franklin, Harvey and Medhurst

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    1. You seem to have it in for Deledio (or he’s injured and I don’t know it yet). I had him last year and, yes, there were times I was frustrated with him and others where he saved my bacon. Like I said about Pav (above), once you pick a player from this price-bracket, you stick with them because they wear that price-tag for a reason.

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  11. Im trading Harvey for O’keefe and Burgoyne for Howlett for 300,000 left over then i can upgrade for Goddard and J. Brown. My rucks are Hille and Naitanui.

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  12. im having a dilema which two players should i trade out this week

    1.luke ball
    2.simon goodwin
    3.boomer harvey
    4.sam mitchell
    5.dont trade anyone

    they are all gonna cost me money unless they pull off a huge score this week

    who do use guys reckon i should trade out any suggestions?

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    1. If I was had to pick one, I’d pick Goodwin. Best is behind him, the others will definately bounce back. None more so that Boomer! Terrible game and he knows it, not looking forward to the show he’s going to put on against my boys this week!!

      Ball may be the other option, looked like he had lead plates in his boots after half time against the Dees, I’d expect him to get a rocket up him this week though and come good against the Saints.

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      1. Hmm I went the option of picking Goodwin over Goddard so I could slot another premium defender in (Drummond), and seeing Goodwin played four solid games in preseason looked to justify his selection. Not too happy with his performances so far, but I reckon keep the faith with him, when Adelaide start playing decent footy, expect his contribution to rise.

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        1. I think it could be the same with Tippett. The crows are just that bad, it’s effecting the overall cohesiveness of the team, and thus the SC scores. I’m avoiding all crows players for the time being as well as roos players.

          Last year Swallow was B&F, but his scores were ok at best. And believe me, I was lucky trading him into my team last year just when he really got going, but then tapered off towards the end. To me, all this says that North are up the creek with no paddles.

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  13. Got a couple of points here boys…

    First of all, I couldn’t look at Kirt Tippett once more in my forward line so he’s been ousted with Big Roughy taking his spot. I know it’s only Tuesday, but he’s really dissapointed me so far after promising to be the revelation of the year up forward!

    Secondly, I’m having a massive heart/head crisis with Benny Cousins. Now, I’ve got the power on my bench to cover for him being injured so that’s not really a concern. My problem is deciding whether or not to trade him out for someone like Barlow (my #2 ranked Cash Cow from last month’s article – Big tick on that one!) and use the extra cash to trade up another forward or stick fat with him, when he plays he scores very well and is worth every cent.

    Benny’s been in every one of my SC teams since I started out, has been a solid contributor, more than solid actually, averaging mid-high 90’s at least. But has the time come to part ways with the great man? I’ve already had to accept that Richo won’t be my big marking forward this year, I’m not sure that I can cope with losing Cuzz aswell!

    Someone talk me into some sense..!

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    1. If you don’t have Barlow, you need to get him no matter what, you’ll probably find he’ll average higher than Cousins come season end anyway and will make you a fair lot of dough… Get Barlow before this weekend’s lockout or you will miss out big time!

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    2. u jumped off tippett onto roughy? ooh big call. Tippett will come good. Roughead hasn’t been that consistent in the last few years, but he might turn it around this year.

      i reckon keep cousins- he will come good if he can get his body right.

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        1. Is anyone seriously not going to have barlow by round 3? Not anyone worth their salt that’s for sure. Even if he plays with both hands tied behind his back he’ll still go up a 100k by the end of the round.

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    3. OUT: Gary Rohan

      IN: Michael Barlow.

      Cousins lives to fight another day. I reckon I’d just about turn for that man when he’s fit and firing!

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  14. I have $114300 in the bank and i am still to make a trade should i trade Grey/Tippett for Brown before his price goes up? I already have Rooey/chapman /hall/tippett/peterson/hitchcock/Dangerfield. Gumby/grey

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    1. YES! Brown is a proven performer. Iam thinking about making the same trade. Tippett has been so disppointing so far

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      1. As far as I am aware, Tippet(425k) + your cash(114300k) will get you Brown(525k?). If that is the case, then why trade Grey as well?

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  15. Seems as though everyone will be making similar trades by the end of the week, meaning we all start to look the same. I’m guilty – I’ve already traded in JB and Seaby (like a lot of others will). Does anyone have any other ‘unique’ trade ideas they’re willing to share?

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    1. Why are you thinking of downgrading any of them? They should all be keepers at this stage of the season imo. Although they have not set the world on fire after two rounds and Goodwin may miss this week, I would be keeping them all. Don’t go trading just because everyone else is.

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      1. I’m with you, Mike. TRADES ARE GOLD. Everybody needs to weigh up whether the cash increase they will make is worth the trade they will burn making that cash. Personally, I’ll be giving blokes another chance this week. Tippett and the Crows play Melbourne this week. You’d think that would be an opportunity for him to bag a few.

        I do agree though, that if you don’t have Barlow you would we well advised to get him in before the end of the week. He’s scoring like there’s no tomorrow so you might as well get him in now because he won’t ever be this price again. Ever.

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        1. FINALLY SOMEONE IS MAKING SENSE!!!! trades are gold, and there is no point in dongrading keepers for cash cows- u put them in ur team for a reason- y trade them after 2 weeks? hardly worth it…. tippett will come good, as soon as adelaide improve so will he….the only trades u should be making this early are to bring in rookies that u missed e.g barlow and silvagni, or any players with long term injuries.

          TRADING SIDEWAYS IS USELESS!!!!

          that is all.

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          1. Great advice. However I have Gray in my team. Should I wait it out and hope he performs well? I have all the reserves needed Martin, Barlow, Silvangi, etc however my forward line is lacking power with Hitchcock and Gumbleton [And Gray still injured].

            I also want to get a strong team for the first few weeks of the league I’m in as I am vs’ing the majourity of the higher scorers and will have the opportunity to save trades later.

            —> I also have 40k and need another 35 to at least trade Gray. I was wondering if perhaps trading Hooker for Malceski would be a good option.

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          2. Easier said than done though! I have Tippett as my no 1 ruck and Hille as my no 2 and they are absolutely killin me. My own fault as in hindsight i prob whould’ve gone with a a couple of premium rucks. Would really like to Trade Tippett for Kruzer but after your advice i might have to stick with Tippett.

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          3. i reckon keep grey. i like the idea of getting rid of hooker for malceski, although i dont know how long malceski will be firing for- he will make u heaps of money though. btw wat is ur average so far? and how much is ur fwd line making per week?

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          4. I am also looking at doing the hooker for malceski trade. It’s hard to do considering Hooker is averageing 80.
            My other option b/c I have a strong backline bench is to do Hooker for Silvagni trade and pocket $220.

            Anyone have opinions on these three players? What is Hookers role? will he get anough good touches to top the 100 point mark? When will Silvagni go back onto the Rookie list? Is Malceski good enough to be a top liner?

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  16. I have D.Martin,L.Shuey,J.Trengove,and R. Bastinac as my midfield rookies. One must go to make way for Barlow any suggestions as to who it should be. They have all showed some promise but i must sacrifice one.

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  17. In my opinion, I think you should use 4-6 trades within the first 5 rounds to fine tune your side and try to save some coin for later in the season.

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    1. true, but i think people are trading just for the sake of trading. i got sucked in last year, and am a lot wiser now. the only trades that should be used are to get rookies in or to bring in a cash cow who is firing.

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    2. Thanks Paul, i was tossing up between Shuey or Trengove but the way you put i think Trengove it is. Shuey was gonna cost me another 11k to get Barlow. Is there a site we can use to see what a players price movement will be after three rounds Thanks

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      1. Motts posted a blog a while ago referencing a free piece of software you can download called ffgenie. The latest version (FFGenie2010.2) has been released which includes the first 2 rounds’ scores, break-evens, expected price rises, averages, standard deviations, bank interest rates, Kevin Sheedy’s taxable income and the national debt of Malawi. Download it at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffgenie/files/

        It doesn’t require a Masters degree but it can be a tad overwhelming to start with. There’s step-by-step at http://ffgenie.webs.com/tutorial.htm

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  18. Thoughts on Ball>Cooney?
    I could wait 1 more week to see if ball lives up to his pre season expectations by getting at least 100+ and wait 1 more week also to see if Cooney can reproduce another 170 performance because his 1st round performance aint too good. But then again if i dont trade this round and ball does shocking and his price goes down to 350-400k, and cooney does a stunner and gets another 150+. He would then be 500k+ thats going to take 2 trades to bring him in instead of ball, rather than trading now straight up because theres only a 30k diff in price between them now and i have 30k.

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  19. Like many others I’m looking to offload Tippett before he plummets in value. The obvious trade is a straight out with Kruez, who is looking like he is going to have a good year. And the other option I am considering is going for Seaby instead and upgrading Gray for either ROK or big J Brown. Although I have a few concerns about whether Seaby can maintain his form, and also whether it is a good idea using 2 trades this early in the season to get rid of players that are still on the park.

    What does everyone think is the smartest move??

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    1. I’m looking to do the same. Already have JB, but want to bring in ROK. It’s either Tippett or Gray in the sling. Downgrade Jolly to any number of ruckmen that are producing better than Jolly.

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  20. i just traded out Rhys Shaw for Malceski which gave me cash to trade medhurst for J. Brown! Win Win I hope! Rhys shaw was giving me the shitts averaging 60 after two games, piss pore for a 500k player

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    1. Emotions aren’t going to help chino, if you made your trades based on fine tuning your side then fair enough but in future wait until the final sides come out. Don’t get jacked when a prem has a shocker cos his more likely to fire up the next week.

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  21. Alright, I know I shouldn’t have done it so early, but I already swung the giant, blood-stained, a little bit rusty axe. Jolly and Tippett out, Seaby and ROK in. Happy with that.

    Will stick by Ball, Pav and Harvey. They’re in for the season, therefore, I won’t lose money on them!

    Jolly and Tippett are set to lose BIG $$$’s! I think Jolly will be in the ball park of $50-80k, Tippett $30-60k.

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    1. I’ve got a bullet with Ball’s name on it but not sure when to put it the chamber and pull the bloody trigger.

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