R4 Trade Talk

Written by Motts on April 16 2012

The first edition of the famous Motts Movers will be out tonight.

In the meantime though, who are you thinking of trading out/bringing in this week?

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274 thoughts on “R4 Trade Talk”

  1. Waiting to see the fyfe outcome. If he’s out I’ll be forced to trade. And as much as I hate saying this Kurt Tippet looks tempting

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  2. Surely …surely the trade in the coming weeks if Fyfe is out for the year and you have a DPP in your mids ( I’m cursing hard I dont ) IS

    fYFE —————–Pendles

    Wait two weeks and its a sideways trade

    Im spewing I cant do it ….

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  3. Considering Fyfe >> Sidebum/Ruffhead. Although the Fyfe >> Pendles trade mentioned above is also interesting. Not sure I can wait two weeks though.

    Might also do a Golby >> Carrots trade.

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  4. Out of interest, I wonder how many people did the Broughton to Dempsey trade . . . and are now considering Dempsey to Broughton????

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  5. If Fyfe is out for 3 weeks or more, I’ll be looking at bringing in Sidebottom. He was in my orig plans anyway.

    I would have been tempted in sizzle also but he didnt seem to be moving too well on the weekend. Chappy would have also been tempting but dont think I could stand watching him dither about over the footy waiting for it to magically appear in his hands

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  6. gday felas,
    weekly score- 2273
    total score- 6739
    overall rank – 448

    HELP! im going for the title and have a tuff opponant this week..
    MUST TRADE LAKE but no idea who to trade him for. Maybe just Matt Maguire? Would that do??
    Another possibility is Jarryn Gearly..
    Please oh god someone help!

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  7. Really looking closely at Masten, seems to be turning into a gun before our eyes and the way he and the Eagles are playing there is no reason to believe that the his output will diminish, his price is only going one way…
    Still no great need to panic just yet, let the cows fatten and then go BANG!

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  8. OUT-Fyfe IN-SideBum/Dangermouse,Chappy,N-Roo/Tiptruck
    Like many others Cant decide ATM but maybe this might help.
    Chappy-Avg-89.3 I know Chappy hasnt set the world on fire early but i know what his capable of and that makes him so tempting.Wasnt great against the Kangas but scored 121 a week earlier aginst the Hawks.The others named above have had sensational starts but can they keep it up SidebumAvg-94.With Ball now out sidebum should get more resdponsasbility in the guts if he grabs the opportunity with both hands could be a good choice.Two scores over 100 really tempts me.
    DangerMouse-Avg-94.7.Was meant to be his breakout year last year but let alot of coaches down lastyear but looks much improved this year but has a had a pretty soft draw apart from the hawks only time will tell.
    N-Roo-Acg-113.3 Has been in sensational form hasnt been up against much opposition thats what worries me about N-roo can he score consistant 100s against the better opposition.
    Tiptruck-Avg-120.0 Has been in great form tore it up agains GC Then a 77 against the doggies and then a 128 against the Hawks ive been burnt by this guy before and have a feeling i could get burnt again.
    Overall- After Dazz’s analisis i think ill be goin Chappy i think his got more consistant scores in him.
    I hope this helps guys for your replacement for Fyfe.

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  9. Why is everyone freaking out about lake!? You cant possibly have that shit of a bench with so many good rookies to choose from
    i know i’ve got Bugg, Elis and Clarke as rookies and are doing quite well
    You’d be stupid if you didn’t have Bugg or a Elis/Morris and Clarke

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  10. Finished third consecutive week just under 2,150.
    Thumbs up > trade Fyfe for Trent Cotchin
    Thumbs down> trade Fyfe for Jimmy Bartel

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  11. i have to win this week coz im playing my best mate and going for top 100 . i’m putting up my team, if anyone of you guys can help make it better that would make my day.

    backs: goddard, delidio,carrazzo,shaw,clarke,p.davis,lake,smedts and paine
    mids:Ablett,Murphy,pendels,selwood,magner,shiel,coniglio and mcdonald
    ruck: giles,mumford, redden and stevenson
    fwds: Tippett,Franklin,n.riewoldt,chapman,kennedy,porplizia,Milera,hall &dickson

    -not sure whether to have hall or milera in.
    -not sure to give mcdonald a try.
    -not sure what to do with lake.

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  12. LOL at all those making trades!!! good luck when it is near the end of supercoach season or even finals and you have 0 trades left!!

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  13. the old gambling question, at what cost do u set ur self to harvest ur cash cows?

    giles i rekon will hit 500K

    bugg, hall, clake,D smith, clay smith, morris, ellis, tomlinson, sheil, windgard, magner, Kennedy, milera, redden and big o.

    bower will prolly go this week in my team.

    at what costs are u looking to upgrade?

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  14. Thinking of this trade this week:
    Coniglio to Couch,(he has to get a run soon as Dees suck)
    swap Couch to Fwd line with Fyfe,
    Trade Fyfe for Pendles. Will have $132,000 left over. Couch can then sit on the bench and get fat when he plays.
    Thumbs down: Wait for Pendles to bottom out.
    Thumbs up: Do it, he wont suck that hard again!

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  15. might do my first trade from Fyfe to Sidebottom.. but still unsure.. anyone
    think Goodes will get done? i mean, after all, it is Adam Goodes..

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  16. to the ppl that said they cant help me b’coz im ranked 450odd thats crap.
    this is my first year andi have no idea whats ahead. i may have picked a good team but i stil need guidance..

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  17. two carlton players worth some consideration

    CARRAZZO ..$515.500 ..mid/def ..3 games / ave 110 and a BE 72
    ROBINSON …$475.600 ..mid/fwd..3 games / ave 89 and a BE 68

    Carlton next 7 games are

    Essendon (home)
    fremantle (away)
    Gws (home)
    St kilda (away)
    Adelaide (home)
    Melbourne (home)
    Port adelaide (away)

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  18. Would it be wise to be cautious about Essendons player fitness, with soft tissue drama and all, they play Carlton then face a 4 day turn around against Collingwood so im expecting some rotations.

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  19. Alright guys, a couple fo people high on my preseason watchlist have been playing quite well, but funds are limiting me a little atm…

    my question for the thumbs is will?:

    McCarthy – avg: 76.3 – BE of 64 earn $6100 more than

    Barlow – Avg: 82.7 – BE of 94

    A little concerned as Barlow has worn the vest twice now and still averaging 82… 440k could be as low as he goes.

    Thumbs up: Mccarthy will earn 6.1k more

    Thumbs down: Nope im screwed

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  20. This upcoming game week has the potential to be a disaster..
    The MRP could rule out Goodes and Lake.
    Then Fyfe could have his season ended.
    And to make things better, there’s Birchalls injury. Does anyone have any updates?

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  21. Brian Lake, Western Bulldogs, has been charged with a level three striking offence against Tom Simpkin, St Kilda, during the fourth quarter of the round three match between the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda, played at Etihad Stadium on Saturday April 14, 2012.

    In summary, due to a five-year good record, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

    Goodes + Grimes got 1 week each too.

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  22. my mate is cashing in all his cash cows NOW to get ablett. He might go well next week or 2 but not in long run.. right??

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  23. Brian Lake, with five-year good record, can accept one match for striking Tom Simpkin.

    Adam Goodes, with bad record, can accept one match for rough conduct J Surjan

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  24. I wonder if Lake will get nominated for “Dud of the week” again on that Supercoach show on Foxtel.

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  25. report today in The West that freo may not make a decision if fyfe should have surgery until later this week, so don’t rush into trading him out, if he does have surgery it will most likely be season ending.

    It says:
    “It is understood the Dockers will seek further medical opinion from a shoulder specialist after Fyfe underwent scans on his injured left shoulder yesterday afternoon. Fyfe did not have his shoulder strapped during yesterday’s recovery session at Bicton Pool but did not use his left arm for swimming.”

    fingers crossed he isn’t out for too long, but things aren’t looking good 🙁

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  26. Just scouting over a replacement for Fyfe (just in case..)
    These are the three reasonable options i’ve come up with.

    1) Roughead

    2) Boomer

    3) N.Roo

    What do you guys think?

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  27. For those expecting fyfe to be dead to us this year, can I suggest jroughead. He is looking superfit and will be a lock for me this year.

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  28. to settle it for once and all.
    trade fyfe thumbs up
    keep fyfe (depending on how long he is out for) thumbs down

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  29. Thinking about going Ledger -> Couch or Treloar then use DPP to get Fyfe in the mids and go Fyfe -> Barlow….. not sure though what does evyone else think? Use those thumbs!

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  30. Alright lets get this straight

    Thumbs Up – Fyfe out for Whitecross

    Thumbs Down – Coniglio out for a mid/forward then sub fyfe with him and get a decent midfielder

    Comment if any other ideas 🙂

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  31. Roughly will play second ruck and play cfh when Franklin plays in the midfield. He wont spend to much time on the bench. When forward expect him to Ruck in the forward 50. Can’t argue with 120 odd second game back. Break even isn’t too bad at 115.

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  32. Has anyone got any news on Birchall?
    Hobbled off during the last quarter of the match with a bruised knee v Crows and Channel 7 did not report much haha.

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  33. Hi guys after Round 3 my overall ranking is 10608
    My 2 trades this week is Lake/Malceski and Broughton/Scotland

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  34. Thinking about 1 of two options if Fyfe is out for ages.

    1. Ledger to Treloar (or any other mid/fwd) then fyfe to rockliff/josh kennedy
    2. Fyfe to Carrots or Birchall swinging smedts fwd

    Thumbs up for option 1, Thumbs down for option 2

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  35. From AFL site:

    “FREMANTLE is “optimistic” young star Nat Fyfe will avoid season-ending surgery and be available to face St Kilda on Friday night at Etihad Stadium following scans on his dislocated left shoulder.”

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  36. Bastinac’s break even is -15, and i watched the game against Geelong this week, he seem’s to be in the right places at the right time (Good football mind?), third year break out maybe??? But I do have one worry, his SC scores look like:
    Round one – LOSE – SC:48
    Round two – WIN – SC151
    Round three – WIN – SC118
    If he only performs when NM win it could be a problem, but he’s 100% guaranteed to smash his BE, i reckon he’ll get up around the 600k mark. Anyways, when the cows are ready for milking will anyone else be considering him???

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  37. Guys what do you think of the following proposal.

    If a player gets subbed out, then the emergency should activated and the two score combined together to your total score.

    Maybe a good idea if the AFL goes to 2 subs next year?

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  38. Goodes and Lake both copped one week so not so bad.

    Probably not worth wasting a trade this early on until a trade down target is acquired.

    If Fyfe is indeed fit enough to play then happy days…

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  39. What does everyone think of Michael Johnson (FRE), hes a DPP (FWD/DEF) and currently $414,700 with scores of 91, 97 and 105?
    His BE is 52…
    Not bad at all, but will he be consistent 🙂 ?

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  40. I am in a panic with my team at the moment, I don’t know what to do
    Backs: Goddard, Deledio, Lake, Dempsey, Hargrave, M Clarke, Bugg (B Ellis, Darley)
    Midfield: Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, Murphy, J McDonald, Magner (Coniglio, Shiel)
    Rucks: Cox, McIntosh (Giles, Stephenson)
    Forwards: Franklin, Goodes, Chapman, D Martin, J Porplyzia, D Smith, A Kennedy (Smedts, Zorko
    Lake suspended, WHAT DO I DO? I don’t really want to play Ellis because he is not scoring high enough
    Dempsey, yes I made those trades, I just couldn’t make up my mind, I was gutted when he got subbed off and only getting 6, is going to play this week, and is it going to affect his scores?
    Goodes suspended, only have Smedts and Zorko on the bench, Smedts didn’t play this week, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?
    Dustin Martin? I don’t know what to do here as well, I want to trade to trade because he is not going as well as we all though and I am thinking don’t trade because he is a premium and I paid big bucks for him and that I will have to keep the faith and hope he comes good.

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  41. do we believe the rumour that freo thinks fyfe will be available to play?

    and if his is, is it worth the risk?

    we could all be back discussing the re-injuring of fyfe’s shoulder.

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  42. I don’t think Barlow is a safe option to get in. Severe leg injury will usually bring a soft-tissue injury (eg. Dempsey). That’s just my opinion…

    Also, if Fyfe is playing this week, should we get rid of him?

    Thumbs up – don’t get rid of him
    Thumbs up – get rid of him

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  43. I want Treloar. I am going to wait until next week but I do want him in my team. He was earlier on the scene than I hoped so I am not sure who will make way but I think he will become an important rookie like Kennedy.

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  44. Haven’t been on the site really across the last few days but a few things:

    1. I like the upwards trajectory of my SC team
    Rnd 1 – 63042, Rnd 2 – 20105, Rnd 3 – 7589

    2. I like the feeling of being atop the LoEC (living it up now while it lasts!!)

    3. Most importantly i love North’s win last night. The run and carry, the handballs coming out fo the backline, it was great to watch. A swarm of blue and white stripes running in support of each other out of the back line.

    Motts – Bastinac and Ziebell are surely in your considerations for Motts’ Movers

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  45. I have both Cox and Mumford, and the pair are expected to drop a heap in price with very high breakevens (180 or so for Mummy and Cox).
    Due to the more than competent scoring ruck rookies such as Giles and Redden are producing, do you think I should downgrade one of them to a rookie (e.g. Big O, Longer) and use the cash in other areas? I plan to get 211 later on in the season.

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  46. “Gary Ablett is playing Brisbane next round, historically he doesn’t score as well against them” … thank you SuperCoach gold. Might just trade him on that advice!!

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  47. Worried about Fyfe. I’m thinking about hedging my bets with this strategy:

    Fyfe –> one of Brent Harvey/Mitch Robinson/Jordan Lewis

    If Fyfe goes under the knife, I had to make the trade. If he does play this week and/or the week after and gets injured, the trade was justified and I don’t lose value on him. If he plays the next two games and gets through unscathed, by then I’ll be able to trade back up to a premium in Fyfe at a heavily discounted price.

    I understand that would be wasting an extra trade, but the worries over Fyfe are too great not to trade him this week. Outside of this dilemma though (and Broughton and Dusty), the team is flying at 55th overall!

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  48. Dusty Martin has break even of 160 or something

    Thumbs up trade
    Thumbs down keep

    Btw lake has a break even of 1 or 2!!

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  49. I am in a panic with my team at the moment, I don’t know what to do. Please help me.
    Backs: Goddard, Deledio, Lake, Dempsey, Hargrave, M Clarke, Bugg (B Ellis, Darley)
    Midfield: Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, Murphy, J McDonald, Magner (Coniglio, Shiel)
    Rucks: Cox, McIntosh (Giles, Stephenson)
    Forwards: Franklin, Goodes, Chapman, D Martin, J Porplyzia, D Smith, A Kennedy (Smedts, Zorko
    Lake suspended, WHAT DO I DO? I don’t really want to play Ellis because he is not scoring high enough
    Dempsey, yes I made those trades, I just couldn’t make up my mind, I was gutted when he got subbed off and only getting 6, is going to play this week, and is it going to affect his scores?
    Goodes suspended, only have Smedts and Zorko on the bench, Smedts didn’t play this week, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?
    Dustin Martin? I don’t know what to do here as well, I want to trade to trade because he is not going as well as we all though and I am thinking don’t trade because he is a premium and I paid big bucks for him and that I will have to keep the faith and hope he comes good.
    I have $53,200

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  50. Was just looking at the most picked players in SC this year. Far out!! I have the 19 most picked players all in my team. I’ve got no chance of winning this thing. If i go well, we all go well. If i go poorly, we all go poorly.

    Cheer me on ppl, it’s in your own interests!!!!!

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  51. Well I knew something like this would happen..
    So my plan comes into place now, dropping Fyfe, throw Smedts forward and pick up Goddard!

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  52. A wise old man once told me “Hold the trigger on the trading gun”.
    There is no point trading just for the sake of it. You should only
    trade when forced to by injury and or suspension. Other than that,
    you trade when a cash cow has maxed out. Simple really!!!! 🙂

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  53. Coniglio tobastinac R
    Fyfe to whitecross

    what you’s think? plus can u change someone to a different spot like fyfe from the forward to the mid

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  54. Need to get rid of Tory dickson as he will prob be a constant doughnut thinking either treolor coz he had a pretty good first game and he will have big upside (price wise) also i’m not sure about this but his breakeven is 0, though i’m not sure whether u can have a BE after only one game.

    the other option is milera (who i should of got prior to RD3). BE -11 should go up another 20 – 40k, but might struggle to get a game this week after a average game in RD3.

    thought would be great.

    Cheers

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  55. I have two options, but either way i have to get rid of Fyfe and Goodes

    Goodes for J.Kennedy (leaves my midfield GAJ, Murp, Kennedy, Selwood, Mitchell, Magner)

    Fyfe for Roughy (leaves forwards Franklin, Roughy, Danger, Martin, Porps, A.Kennedy, Smith)

    Thumbs up if i should or..
    Down if you think i should go.

    Pffiefer for treloar (in midfield)
    Fyfe for Roughy (in forwards)

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  56. I really like the lookout of roughly.

    Not sure dumping goose’s, he is only out for a week. Might be a bit premature on that one.

    Personally I’m willing to run the risk on fyfe. And priddis as I have magnet and old McDonald on the bench.

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  57. Does anyone know what went on with this site earlier i kept on getting error i was freaking out because i needed my supercoach talk fix 🙂

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  58. trade out fyfe? i’m thinking of keeping him, but curious to see what others think…

    thumbs up- Yes
    thumbs down- No

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  59. Looking to get rid of McCarthy from port who has a breakeven of 65 this week against Collingwood which i dont think he will make considering he got only 55 last week. Possible replacements, Josh Kennedy(syd) scott selwood, shuey, Masten, or swap him with Deledio and get Carrazzo, or hold onto McCarthy and hope he continues to make me some dosh?

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  60. Just a thought.
    If fyfe is out for more than 2 weeks, you could keep him as his price wont change, use a rookie from bench on the field. You could wait a couple of weeks and get Ryan O’keefe cheap as his price will go down due to slow start. you could make money out of this however you are sacrificing a prems score for a rookies score. Thoughts?

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  61. Thumps up – fyfe direct trade to pav/chap/nroo/sidebum

    Thumbs down – fyfe to trelour ( if named) and then upgrade hampton to other jobe or carrazo. Btw Hampton has a b/e of 30 or something like that

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  62. Hey guys im in big trouble with my supercoach i need lots of help. i have 100k in my bank and the players i need to trade out r Fyfe and Leuenberger! i have two options for both leuenberger for rider or sandilands. Fyfe for Crameri or Aaron Edwards let me know witch option!
    thx

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  63. Looks like the Fyfe is going to be ok, with the shoulder being likened to same condition as last year. If that’s the case, 108 average is fine by me. Barring any bad news from the ‘second opinion’ I think I’ll keep him for now.

    So, thinking of trading Golby. Quick poll:

    Carrazzo (T up)
    or
    Sidebum (T down) – using Smedts’ DPP trade switcheroo trick

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  64. My current team:

    B: Goddard, Deledio, Scotland, Bugg, Clarke, Lake, Smedts, Wilkes

    M: Murphy, Mitchell, Pendles, Boyd, Priddis, Treloar, Neale

    R: Leuenberger, Giles, Redden, Stephenson

    F: Buddy, Chapman, Pav, Adam Kennedy, Fyfe, Smith, Hall, Hampton, Pfeiffer

    42,800 remaining salary

    Burned two trades last week to get Marty Clarke and Adam Kennedy before prices jumped as I was getting doughnuts otherwise. Lost the round with Priddis out (Treloar as emergency), Pendles as Capt, Leuenberger and Fyfe’s injuries, and a sub-par day for Mitchell. Ooph.

    Not sure what to do with Leuenberger, losing him hurts a lot with my 1-0-3 ruck strategy, and the price drop didn’t help. Suggestions?

    Also am regretting not having GAJ, but not sure I see a good way to get him into my side right now. I guess I could trade out Pendles before his price drops more and trade in GAJ before his price rises more, and then pick up Pendles again down the road once I can profit from rookies, but that’s a lot of trades burned…

    Finally, if Smedts doesn’t get named this week then I don’t have anyone to cover for Lake with his suspension.

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  65. Bad luck last week; have dempsey , Berger , fyffe, birchall and lake – at this stage I’m going to rough it out and only trade Berger for kreuzer !

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  66. In the next couple of weeks ill be lookin to bring in Thomas Couch and Corey dell’0lio both clubs have big wraps on em

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