Rate My JAN Team 3

Written by Schwarzwalder on January 24 2018

Supercoach is now open to the public!!  I bet you’re all itching to share your early drafts with us all. Leave your team in the Forum below to see what the SCT Coaches make of it…..

 

Don’t be afraid to critique your fellow Coaches with their first teams either (constructively, of course)…….

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  1. still a few mid spots up for grabs & expecting to loose a couple to pre season injuries but getting a little closer to my finished squad
    will be looking closely at Buddy & Hanley over the pre season

    Rich Shaw Wilson Maynard Brayshaw O’Shea
    ( Doedee Murray )
    Danger Mitchel Fyfe O’Meara Graham Ah’chee kennedy Fox
    ( Kelly Holman Wigg )
    Ryder Jacobs
    ( Olango )
    Kennedy Dahlhouse Wells Stringer Deludio Christiansen
    ( Keeffe Garlett )

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    1. Super high risk, not much reward.

      Solid picks: Danger, Mitchell, Fyfe, Ryder*, Jacobs, Dahlhaus
      Calculated risks: Shaw, Wilson, Brayshaw, Ah Chee, Kennedy (WC), Stringer
      Injury Risks: O’Meara, Kennedy (Car), Wells, Deledio, Christensen
      Fools Gold: Rich, Maynard, Graham

      Ryder has a Bye during a round where you need 22 scoring players, and there isn’t much chance Olango gets a game that round.

      Kennedy from Carlton had off-season shoulder surgery and isn’t back in full contact stuff yet – monitor closely.

      Rich has teased for years.
      Maynard is a hyper-aggressive potato.
      Graham is overpriced for his very limited exposed form.

      Looking at your team, I worry that you’ll burn your trades early covering injuries and poor form, and your scoring potential each week is going to be limited. It would be an absolute miracle if even half of your high-risk or speculative picks fire in the same round. Odds are a handful will post good scores, the rest will put up 50-70 scores, and there will be no telling which ones will be in which category in any given week.

      As far as team structure goes, you should be looking to select 12-14 players who you are confident will be in the top tier of their position for the season.

      3 Defenders + 5 Mids + 2 Rucks + 3 Forwards

      Add a midpricer or two who you think can break into premium form, in whichever position you can find them. Take your personal bias out of it and go for the ones with a high likelihood of success, and minimal risk of being a complete bust. Ceiling of 100 with floor of 75 is better than ceiling of 110 with floor of 50.

      Add rookies, and if you have leftover cash give some though to whether you can absolutely improve your team by using it now, or if you’re better off holding it for a headstart on your first upgrade.

      The aim is to have 8-10 likely upgrades. Each will most likely require 2.5 trades on average to complete. Ie. 3 rookie downgrades/cash-ins provides the finds to upgrade two fat rookies to top shelf premiums.

      Overall you’ll then need to allow 20-25 trades to complete your team, which leaves 5 for rookie corrections or major long term injuries. Be disciplined.

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      1. shaw ahchee stringer kennedy rich all are expected roll change positions this year
        shaw will be back to the no 1 rebound def
        ahchee will get more mid opportunity
        as will stringer & kennedy
        rich should move to a wing with hodgey moving in down back
        as for maynard I threw him in because of the hype but know nothing about him , will watch him over the pre season
        as for trades
        because of the apparent lack of options this season , I am expecting to trade heavily pre bye

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        1. Yeah, I get the thoughts around each pick in isolation – but add them all together and it could (and Murphy’s Law says will) blow up spectacularly.

          We’re yet to see if Shaw will go back to his kick-whoring ways or if GWS may look to Deledio at HB, or pass more responsibility to some of their younger players.

          Ah Chee is fine in my eyes, breakout candidate at a very cheap price.

          Stringer MIGHT play in the middle. He’ll probably get opportunities there, but that doesn’t mean he’ll do well. More likely he spends 30% of his time in the guts and is still used predominantly as a forward threat. 80-90 avg at best.

          Kennedy, as I said, is coming off shoulder surgery. He’ll play games this year, but might not be in the mix early, and if he is might not be as likely to be used on-ball.

          A light breeze could tag Rich out of a game. Wherever he plays, opposition coaches know they need to play someone accountable on him to limit his influence.

          Maynard is a thug with minimal talent. He’s a poor man’s Mitch Robinson.

          Trading heavily pre-bye is OK, but only if you’re aggressively trading towards a full team. Your team, as it stands, might do well – but the odds aren’t in your favour. For some perspective, I ran two teams last year, with the second being a muck-around mid-pricer team. It shot ahead of my main team over the first 5-6 weeks, but as the season wore on it fell further and further behind. Teams like burn through trades at a rate of knots, and run out of puff well before the end of the season as the teams with 16+ genuine premium player pull ahead.

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          1. obviously multiple players will change as the season draws closer , but the price structure & trade strategy will be the same
            185th overall last year with the same strategy
            if it aint broke , don’t fix it

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                1. Sure thing – not sure if my internet tone radar is off, but it sounds like you’re getting a bit defensive. If I’m wrong, no offense intended. I obviously have the time, this thread has turned into Ask BlueBalls 😛

                  DEF: Laird, Hibberd, Simmo, Richards, Doedee, Murray (Cumming, Keeffe)
                  MID: Dusty, Titch, Zorko, Crouch, Fyfe, Cripps, LDU, Brodie (Ahern, Kelly, Worpel)
                  RUC: Jacobs, Gawn (English)
                  FWD: Billings, Dahlhaus, Curnow, Ah Chee, Higgins, Venables (Garlett, Ryan)

                  As per my earlier post, aiming to get as many sure picks in as possible. Taking a chance on Curnow and Ah Chee up forward. Curnow a bit pricier, but he can play any position on the ground, is a ripping contested mark, runs all day and can kick long and accurately. Worst case scenario he holds value I think. Ah Chee should go up, I’m hoping he’s this year’s Jack Steele – M9/D7 swingman at year’s end for me.

                  That’s two speculative breakout picks, which I feel comfortable with. I’m pretty confident I have 3 defensive keepers, 6 in the middle, 2 rucks and 2-3 forwards. 8-9 upgrades to be made over the season.

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                  1. FWIW Blueballs , I thought your critique was quite good and insightful. It’s still January and everything is still quite speculative but getting POV’s from different angles is what this site is about.Cheers

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                  2. yeh , that’s a solid team mate , very generic though , should get you into the top 20k rankings , or win you a couple of leagues , most experienced coaches will run with that sort of format , it wont get you the cash though , which is my focus
                    last year , premiums fell like dominoes & while most were sideways trading , I was upgrading to fallen premiums , with plenty of trades in hand when the finals came around
                    I’m planning for similar carnage this year

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                    1. That’s what the game is all about – as I said, if you’re confident, back yourself in and best of luck. My experience shows otherwise, but it’s a small sample size and I may have simply made less than optimal choices along the way.

                      For context, as an employee of News I’m unable to win the cash anyway, so league wins is always where it’s been at. That being said, I always push for as high a rank as I can get.

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            1. Mate dont listen when people say bad stuff about Maynard. He’s gonna be the next captain of the PIES once we get rid of Buck’s.

              Even with Buck’s still coaching, I reckon he could win the Brownlow this year. He’s that good.

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    2. Doesnt address dodgy bye and a lot of speculative picks need to reward you with about 100k in value each.

      Tough to support it. Sorry.

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  2. First attempt,

    Def: Laird, hibberd, Birchall, o’shea,Doedee, Murray, keefe, Goddard.

    Mid: danger, Mitchell, crouch, Merrett, Fyfe, Cripps, Dow, LDU, (Higgins, Kelly, Garlett)

    Ruck: Ryder, Gawn (English)

    Forw: Heeney, Billings, Dunkley, Christensen, Rayner, Ahern, (Rioli,venables)

    80k left over. Feel free to comment, thanks

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      1. That would be ideal, haven’t really thought about the byes yet,there’s no real ruck/forward swings this year which sucks….I’ll most likely swap Ryder for Jacobs or Nic Nat,

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    1. Might be misremembering, but didn’t Birch run into another injury issue this preseason? He’s never been a top flight scorer, he’s in that “reliable B-Grader” category that has worked for the backline in the past. Nowadays though, there are defenders scoring 100+ comfortably and Birchall won’t be one of them – and that’s without factoring in risk of repeat injuries.

      Haven’t seen Merrett in many teams, but like the pick. Think most people will be opting for two of Crouch, Merrett, Zorko, Neale, Oliver and Bont, who should all be reliable options.

      As above, Ryder = donut during his bye round. Depending on your goal (overall vs. league) you may be able to weather it.

      First time I’ve seen Dunkley mentioned this season, and I don’t hate the idea. Don’t know enough to try and make a case for or against though.

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  3. Laird Tuohy Lloyd O’Brien keefe Murray
    (Goddard Doedee)

    Martin Mitchell Kelly crouch Fyfe Adams
    Dow d-u ( ahern Higgins Kelly)

    Ryder Jacobs (Olango )

    Billings curnow lobb ah chee Rayner Rioli
    ( Starcevich Ryan)

    Version 3. Opinions welcome

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    1. Adams – blergh!

      Rest looks solid for mine, pending rookie selections. As per plenty of other comments floating around – be mindful that you’ll have a donut during Port’s bye round unless Olango plays.

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    2. tigers were handed the flag on a plate last year , no injuries & an easy draw , only playing 1 top 8 team twice , ( GWS ) , good on em though , they got their chance & grabbed it , I think dusty might just get found out this year though , if he plays all the top 8 teams twice which the tigers should after winning the flag , with the extra attention from quality midfields , might just get him for 150k less @ the byes , this year might just show his true value

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      1. Averaged 140 through the finals series, against Geelong, GWS and Adelaide…

        Only sub-90 scores he posted were against Brisbane, Bulldogs and St Kilda.

        All indications are that Richmond are firmly focused on backing up again this year – much as it hurts me to say it as a Blues fan, I think they’ll be in the hunt again in 2018, and Dusty is a rare player with his strength and skills.

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        1. Furthermore, likely top 8 sides in my opinion: Adelaide, Essendon, GWS, Geelong, Melbourne, Port, Richmond, Sydney

          Dusty’s average vs. those sides last year = 123.7

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  4. Nathan’s Gunz V3

    Laird, Hibberd, Simpson, O’Shea, Doedee, Goddard (Murray, Keeffe)

    Dangerfield, Kelly, M.Crouch, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, Wigg, Kelly (Freeman, Worpel, Holman)

    Ryder, Gawn (Olango)

    Menagola. Heeney, Billings, Christensen, Higgins, Ahern (Venables, Garlett)

    33k Banked

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    1. About as solid as I’ve seen so far. Only Coniglio and Christensen as genuine risks, though I’m not sold on Menegola myself.

      Only concern is that you don’t have a heap of room to move on rookies – someone like LDU is likely going to be a must-have this year, and you’re going to need to be creative if you decide you need to have him.

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  5. I’m copy+paste what I wrote last night in the previous Rate My Team, because I don’t think anyone would’ve got the chance to have a look at what I had.

    WARNING – Long read ahead

    This will obviously be changed a number of times before the season starts, but here’s what I have so far.

    DEF – M. Hibberd, D. Roberton, A. Witherden, A. McGrath, G. Birchall, T. Doedee (A. Naughton, S. Murray)

    MID – D. Martin, T. Mitchell, S. Pendlebury, I. Heeney, S. Coniglio, J. Graham, C. Rayner, LDU (D. Fogarty, J. Garlett, T. Kelly)

    RUC – M. Gawn, N. Naitanui (L. Lavender)

    FWD – R. Gray, M. Walters, R. Lobb, C. Rioli, A. Christensen, L. Ryan (J. Higgins, Z. Langdon)

    $52.1k remaining.

    Sooooo as you can see, I’m not the type to just go bonkers and tank up my midfield with five-to-six 500k+ players. I like to spread the cash around a little so the other positions don’t get too dry of potential points (A mistake which almost ruined my forward line last year).

    As you’ve probably realized too, I haven’t picked Danger (YET). I’ve gone with Dusty as my start-of-season star. I’m planning to get Danger when he drops about $100k. Main reason though is that I just get the impression Dusty will have a better start to the year. Also with Gaz now being back at the cattery, Danger’s numbers may drop a little, depending on how much of the game Gaz may dominate (and how much his floppy shoulders can take before they fall off again).

    Next, there’s a couple of PODs for me this year. First of is Jack Graham. Now he’s still only $268k, and he looks to be averaging around 70-80. He averaged 7 tackles in the games he played last year, including finals. Tackles usually score a good number of points, so if he takes his high tackling game into this year, he’ll be sure to be a bargain in making around $100-150k by the time his price peaks. My plan right now is to use him for about 8-10 weeks, then upgrade him to someone better by the time the bye rounds arrive.

    Another one that might be a POD, unless a fair few select him later on, is Michael Walters. I understand there are players who would usually be more reliable than him, but there are some stats that may interest you. Last year in the first 6 weeks he was averaging just over 60 when he spent most of his time in the forward, whereas when play more in the midfield he averaged about 100 for the rest of the season. One of the Docker’s coaching staff had mentioned a few days ago too, that he will be spending even more time in the midfield than he was getting last year. So I will be picking him in hoping he’ll get at least over $500k, and be consistently scoring around 100. Maybe that’s too much wishful thinking, but I’m having some high expectations for him.

    Lastly, there are a couple of players I choosing over

    – Aaron Naughton or Cam O’ Shea
    – Andrew McGrath or Callum Mills.

    What do you guys think? I want to make sure I have my defence as good as I can get, because my original plans was to get Doc and Williams as my first two. But now as either aren’t playing this season, it’s made decision making in this area quite tricky.

    Feel free to give me any constructive criticism too

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    1. You’ve obviously given the strategy some thought.

      I still think there are a few too many mid-priced risks in there though.

      Witherden, McGrath and Birchall down back could just as easily become a much more solid combination of Kade Simpson, Jake Lloyd and a rookie like Richards or Goddard.

      Graham @268k makes $100-150k, while someone like Ahern saves you $150k off the bat and probably makes $200k. Your forward line is also a bit too stacked – Heeney will end up as one of your top forwards, which means the other 5 spots are also already filled. The problem there is that trading in premium midfielders is always a lot more challenging because they’re typically priced $100k above most top forwards.

      Have no issue with the Walters pick, whereas Cyril and Christensen worry me plenty.

      You’ve certainly opted for a different strategy (only 4 rookies on field, plus Jack Graham), which may pay off for you. However it goes against what most long-time supercoaches have learned, which is that stacking a team with midpricers typically ends in tears.

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  6. Why are people going Coniglio? I know that the price is good but he only got 2 100’s from 7 games last year and after missing the bulk of the year it’s hard to think that it’s going to be a huge improvement this year. Seems like a mid pricer you are going to have to burn a trade on.

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    1. The year before he averaged 105 from 21 games, and tonned up 13 times.

      There’s question marks over whether he gets back to that level, but he represents value with some proven form behind him. Was used in a more negating role last year as he was eased back in.

      Personally, I’m still passing on him this year. If I was confident he’d go 110+ and be a firm keeper then sure, but a 95-105 average would be extremely awkward from a keep/trade perspective.

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      1. I think at his price he is a solid selection.
        – If he hits 105+ it’s a massive win and a cheap keeper at M8.
        – If he maintains a 90 to 105 until his bye he’s a cheap upgrade to a premo.
        – Best 22 starting mid, proven past form and likely top 4 team.

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        1. He’s certainly a solid selection. But I’ve prioritised mids who I think can average 110+ this season.

          Dusty, Titch, Zorko, Crouch, Fyfe, Cripps + rookies

          Those last two spots are going to be Dangerfield + someone else, and I’m pretty sure I can get better than Coniglio by season’s end.

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  7. Comments, thoughts, suggestions all appreciated 🙂

    Any player under 200k may change (rookie placeholders indicated by brackets)

    $30k to spare

    DEF
    Hurley Hibberd Brayshaw (Hibberd Doedee Murray Goddard Cumming)

    MID
    Martin Mitchell Kelly Fyfe Cripps Coniglio O’Meara (Kelly Ahern Worpel Barry)

    RUC
    Jacobs Gawn (English)

    FWD
    Heeney Billings Stringer Christensen Balic McCartin (Rioli Ryan)

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    1. Intriguing.

      Backline is OK, but may bleed some points with 3.5 rookies on field.

      Mids are stacked, you know what you’re going for here.

      Rucks are fine, minimal risk.

      Forwards…hmmm. Personally, I’d avoid a concussion-prone KPP with minimal scoring potential, and I think there are rookies around who will match Balics scoring output for a fraction of the cost. Maybe consider dropping one (or both) to upgrade Brayshaw down back, or Stringer up forward, to someone more bankable?

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      1. Thanks for the comment!

        Believe me I have thought of pretty much everything you mentioned.

        I know the backline is a little thin but I feel there are opportunities for a number of cheap options with the way the trades and pre season injuries have panned out so far.

        As for the fwd line… Christensen, Balic, and McCartin I’m looking at as all high priced rookies. They all need around a 70 average to make 150k which is a good result for a rookie. Christensen and McCartin should be best 22. Agreed Balic is a risky pick but easily swapped with any other available rookie before Rnd 1.
        Stringer isn’t training with the midfield group at Essendon for shits and giggles but I will be closely monitoring his form in the JLT along with Smith, Petracca, Parish, Curnow and Lobb, so he could yet become any one of these

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        1. Yeah, good points across the board.

          High-priced rookies…I dunno, $250k and above is firmly in mid-pricer territory in my book. The problem for these guys with cash flow is that in order to make that $150k they need a solid run of form for a good 6-10 weeks. As soon as they toss in a 40-60pt game, their price just stalls for a few weeks. Rookies starting at $120k can afford some 40’s in with their 60s and they’ll still make cash, and if they get a run of 80+ games they absolutely explode.

          Smith I view with a lot of doubt, but your other alternatives seem much more astute.

          Curnow is in my side, reckon he’s poised to smash out a 90avg with some big tons along the way. He’ll have some quiet weeks for sure, but I’ll back him in given his flexibility to play any position on the park.

          Lobb was in my starting side but I’ve moved away from him now. Still think he could be worthwhile though.

          Petracca and Parish are two forward eligible young players who should see plenty of midfield minutes. Either could be this years Heeney.

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          1. Why have you moved away from Lobb now? I’ve got him in. I know it’s a small sample size of games without mummy but figures look promising. I am starting to think that Petrraca might be a better alternative though.

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            1. Not really sure. Structure, I guess?

              It’s him or Curnow, and I see more upside in Charlie, especially in a weaker/younger Blues lineup.

              I’d need to downgrade Dahlhaus to Lobb to get him in again, but not sure what to do with the savings, and not sure any change I make puts me ahead.

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  8. Here’s a team Dad cooked up after a bif of predetermination from me to prevent midpriced madness.

    He doesn’t wasnt to pay big bucks for players. But once he has them he finds it hard to kick them out.

    Seriously solid team from the old fella.

    D: Yeo Laird Simpson Coffield Doedee Keeffe (Murray Collins)

    M: Mitchell, Oliver, Fyfe, Cripps, O’Meara,
    Cousins, Andrew Brayshaw, Davies Unackie (Starcevich, Ahern, Wigg)

    R: Kreuzer, Gawn (English)

    F: Greene, Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Mundy, Cameron, J Higgins (Ballendean, T McCartin)

    $4100 left

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  9. Def: Hurley, Laird, Hibberd, Brayshaw, Doedee, Murray (Keefe, Mirra)

    Mid: Martin, Mitchell, Zerrett, Fyfe, Beams, Blakely, Redden, Bailey (Dawson, Kelly, Giro)

    Ruck: Gawnanui (Hayes)

    Fwd: Heeney, Lobb, Christensen, Ah Chee (WCE), Ryan, Higgins (English, Ryan)

    I’ve opted to cheap out in the forward line seeing as the only rock solid options are 500k. I don’t see Devon Smith or Petracca doing considerably better than Ah Chee and Christensen, and I feel like my M1-M7 can average triple figures.

    Also, Hayes/English is maybe the only plausible ruck cover via DPP considering English was handed his debut as a rookie which is obscenely rare for a ruckman, so they must be high on him going forward (Was also a top 20 draft pick, which is again obscenely rare for a ruckman)

    Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated

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  10. The fun starts again in 2018! And the pain of selecting a team…

    Def: Laird, Hurley, Hibberd, O’Shea, Gardiner, Doedee (Morgan, Richards)
    Mid: Danger, Mitchell, Crouch, Fyfe, Bont, Cripps, LDU, Worpel (Barry, Dawson, T.Kelly)
    Ruck: Jacobs, Gawn (Olango)
    Fwd: Billings, Heeney, Curnow, Stephenson, Higgins, Garlett (Ahern, Venables)

    It’s a start, rookies will change as we get closer to the R1.
    I have a few expensive rookies in at the moment, in case cheaper ones pop-up and I can bank some money or upgrade someone.

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  11. HNY to all in SCT land & good luck to everyone for 2018

    Catta’sClan@SCT (mk1 of 2,351)

    Def…Laird, Hibberd, Lloyd, Wilson, O’Shea, Keefe
    (Emg- Dodee & Murray )

    Mid…Martin, T Mitchell, Zorko, M Crouch, Fyfe, LDU, Higgins, Wigg
    (Emg-Kelly, Barry, Holman)

    Ruc…Gawn, NicNat (Emg Olango)

    Fwd…Heeney, R Gray, Curnow, Lobb, Christensen, Ahern
    (Emg-Venables, Garlett)

    All rookies subject to change before R1, any feed back or suggestions are welcome.

    Cheers Catta

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    1. Nice balanced team Catta.

      With the headache with no ruck cover this year.
      Me thinks gamble one of Gawn or Nitnat this year.
      Having both might give you sleepless nights.

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    2. I like it.

      The strong-bookend approach is different to most of the teams I’ve seen this year. Most people seem to be stacking the midfield and trying to save money in the forward and/or backline. You, on the other hand, have made both of those lines quite strong, instead finding savings by going fora 5-3 midfield.

      The weaker midfield may slow you down slightly in the opening rounds of the season, but as the year wears on, having started 8 or 9 keepers across the forward and backlines should hold you in good stead.

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  12. My first draft of my team for 2018. What do you think?

    Defenders:
    J. Lloyd, A. McGrath, R. Clarke
    C. O’Shea, J. Smith, T. Doedee
    B. Mihocek, D. Mirra

    Midfielders:
    D. Martin, T. Mitchell
    J. Kelly, D. Zorko, N. Fyfe
    S. Coniglio, A. Brayshaw, L. Davies-Uniacke
    W. Brodie, P. Ahern, W. Powell

    Rucks:
    M. Gawn, N. Naitanui
    D. Cameron

    Forwards:
    J. Billings, L. Dahlhaus, D. Smith
    C. Petracca, C. Rayner, J. Higgins
    J. Garlett, L. Ryan

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    1. I’m liking the Joel Smith pick who just got squeezed out of my recent draft fot Coffield, and Darcy Cameron who should get a go this year now Swans have lost Tippett.

      Not quite so sure about your forwards as it’s a big jump expected from a few of them to be top 10

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    2. Yeah, I some spare cash in the kitty and decided to upgrade a couple. D. Smith is out for I. Heeney. And A. McGrath is out for Callum Mills. I am still unsure if any of the Essendon mid-pricers will make the jump into premium level (top 6 Forwards) this year, but I will defintely be watching preseason. I am fairly happy with my other forward selections, I. Heeney, J. Billings, and L. Dahlhaus should all be premiums, (hopefully). Anyways, can’t wait for the Footy!

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  13. DEF: R. Laird, M. Hibberd, K. Simpson, C. O’Shea, T. Doedee, L. Keeffe (S. Murray, A. Johnson)

    MID: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, T. Mitchell, D. Zorko, N. Fyfe, P. Cripps, P. Dow, L. Davies-Uniacke (N. Freeman, H. Wigg, T. Kelly)

    RUC: S. Jacobs, M. Gawn (T. Olango)

    FWD: D. Smith, C. Curnow, R. Lobb, A. Christensen, J. Higgins, L. Ryan (P. Ahern, J. Garlett)

    Remaining Salary: $63,300

    Gradual evolution seems to be the theme with each iteration of the 2018 Salamander™.

    I’ve toned back the mid-priced forward line a little bit (okay, I dropped Stringer). As I noted a little while back, the forward line has the greatest number of rookies of any position this year, so it makes sense to make some room for them. I’ve used some of the savings to beef up the backline.

    Naitanui has also been replaced by Gawn as my pre-bye Ryder stand-in, mainly because West Coast’s depleted midfield is not going to be good for Nic Nat’s hitout-to-advantage percentage.

    I’ve also decided that Beams is just one injury risk too many in the limited trade formats, regardless of how well he plays when Rockliff isn’t around. Speaking of the midfield, I wouldn’t mind getting one or both of Josh Kelly and Clayton Oliver into my team. I like consistency from my premiums, and those guys had such ridiculously high floors last year (88 and 80 respectively, with only 1 sub-90 score each – and only 5 sub-100 scores each). If I do decide to bring one of them onboard, it will probably be Martin who has to go, simply because he can normally be picked up cheaply at some point in the year.

    I’m pretty confident in my rookies at this point in time, but there are others who could take their place. Will Brodie (MID), Lochie O’Brien (DEF/MID), and to a lesser extent Carlton’s mature-aged recruit Matt Shaw (MID) are all on my radar.

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  14. Fishing for breakouts with a solid core.

    Def: Laird, McGovern, Burton, Coffield, OhShea, Doedee (Keefe, McPherson)

    Mid: Danger, Mitch, Oliver, Kelly, Merrett, Fyfe, Rayner, LDU (Kelly, Worpel, Barry)

    Ruck: Gawn, NikNat

    forwards: Heeney, De Goey, Petracca, Setterfield, Ahern, garlett (Starcevich, Guelfi)

    so 4 breakouts, $44k in bank and rookies to settle on.

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  15. First Draft

    R. Laird
    M. Hibberd
    K. Simpson
    T. Doedee
    S. Murray
    I. Cumming

    H. Goddard
    N. Murphy

    P. Dangerfield
    D. Martin
    J. Kelly
    N. Fyfe
    D. Beams
    P. Cripps
    L. Davies-Uniacke
    N. Holman

    P. Ahern
    N. Freeman
    T. Kelly

    M. Gawn
    N. Naitanui

    T. Olango

    I. Heeney
    M. Walters
    C. Curnow
    R. Lobb
    J. Higgins
    J. Garlett

    L. Keefee
    L. Ryan

    $10,300 remaining salary and feel free to give an thoughts

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  16. V2!

    All comments appreciated 🙂

    All players in brackets are rookie placeholders until round 1 teams

    DEF
    Hurley Hibberd Hanley (Hibberd Cumming Goddard Doedee Murray)

    MID
    Martin Mitchell Kelly Fyfe Cripps Coniglio (Davies-Uniacke Kelly Ahern Worpel Barry)

    RUC
    Jacobs Gawn (English)

    FWD
    Heeney Billings Petracca Parish (Stephenson Ryan Rioli Garlett)

    $6k in the kitty

    Thoughts?

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  17. Backs:
    Laird, Roberton, Lloyd
    Richards, Doedee, Murray
    Cumming, Keefe

    Mids:
    Danger, Dusty, Titchell, Oliver, M.Crouch, Fyfe
    Davies-Uniacke, Mutch
    Wigg, Kelly, Worpel

    Rucks:
    Gawn, Nic Nat
    Lavender

    Forwards:
    Menegola, Heeney, Dahlaus
    Higgins, Ahern, Garlett
    Venables, Ryan

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  18. Backs:
    Laird, Roberton, Lloyd
    A.Brayshaw, O’shea, Keefe
    Doedee, Mirra

    Mids:
    Dangerfield, Martin, Kelly, Z.Merrett
    Bontempelli, Coniglio, LDU, Barry
    T.Kelly, H Brayshaw, North

    Rucks:
    Gawn, Nat, Olango

    Fwd:
    Heeney, Billings, De Goey
    Christensen, Ahern, J Garlett
    L Ryan, Z Langdon

    8.5k itb
    All comments appreciated 🙂
    What line should I fix in version 2?

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  19. I’m not sure on the O’Meara and Freeman pick.Freeman cost Collingwood a Pick 10 who inturn got James Aish with some horse trading. Aish has been ok Feeeman is still yet to play after being in the system 5 years. O’Meara, don’t know how many people on this site last year put him on their’never again’ list. Last thing I read on him(last year) was that his knee condition was degenerative.

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  20. Def: Yeo, Laird, Hibberd, O’Shea, Richards, Doedee (S.Murray, I.Cumming)

    Mid: Dangerfield, M.Crouch, Zerret, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, LDU, Kelly (J.Worpel, D.Barry, N.Holman)

    Ruck: Gawn, NicNat (D.Cameron)

    Fwd: Heeney, Greene, Dahlhaus, Christensen, Higgins, Spargo (D.Venables, J.Garlett)

    $66800 left in the bank. As always rookies subject to change, thinking Venables -> Switkowski and Cummings -> Player X but any opinions are welcome.

    Cheers

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    1. Nicely balanced team with the classic 3-5-2-3 premium structure. Maybe consider Coffield, Keefe, Morgan, Mitch Hibberd or Smith as your defensive rookie player x (but acknowledging it is a lot of guess work with rookies). Smart move leaving some change in the bank too.

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      1. Cheers Pusherman, much appreciated. Which Smith would that be and how much change do you think would be too much change?

        Cheers

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    2. I really like this team, probably one of the most well balanced teams I’ve seen floating around. I would sit on this until we know more about rookies.

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  21. Hi All,

    I welcome constructive feedback on this team:

    Laird, Hibberd (Melb), Simpson, Coffield, Doedee, Murray (Keeffe, Morgan)

    Martin, Kelly, Merrett, Cripps, Shuey, Graham, Rayner, LDU (Dow, Smith (Melb), Poholke)

    Gawn, Nat (English)

    Billings, Gray, Dahlhaus, Lobb, Ah Chee (WCE), Ahearn (Garlett (Carl), Venables)

    Change: $5k

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  22. DEF:
    Laird, Hibberd, Shaw, O’Shea, Doedee, Murray (Cumming, Keeffe)

    MID:
    Danger, Dusty, J. Kelly, Zorko, Fyfe, Cripps, LDU, Ahern (Garlett, T. Kelly, Worpel)

    RUC:
    Jacobs, Gawn (English)

    FWD:
    Billings, Curnow, Lobb, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Dawson, Ryan)

    $98,700 remaining.

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    1. Don’t mind this one at all. If I have to nit-pick, I’d only take a chance with one of Lobb or Curnow up FWD but not both……

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  23. Def: Yeo, laird, Lloyd, Birchall, O’shea, Ling (Doedee, Murray)
    Mid: Danger, Dusty, t Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, O’meara, LDU, T Kelly (worpel, Wigg, Ahern)
    Ruc: Gawn, Nic Nat, (Olango)
    Fwd: Heeney, Billings, Dahlaus, rayner, Stephenson, Higgins (Keefe, Ryan)
    $19,400 remaining

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    1. Perhaps it’s the yellow and black blood running through my veins, but I’d run with Jack Graham over O’Meara. Cheaper, plenty of promise and a stable spot in the best 22 (in my opinion)…………

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  24. V3- Pls give me feedback! Thank u!

    Defenders:
    Yeo, Laird, Lloyd, O’Shea, Smith (Melb), Doedee
    (Em:- Murray, Keefe)

    Midfielders:
    Dangerfield, Martin, Merret, Fyfe, Cripps, O’Meara, Griffen, LDU (My school mate last year)
    (Em:- Garlett, Kelly, Barry)

    Rucks:
    Kreuzer, Grundy
    (Em:- Coleman-Jones)

    Forwards:
    Heeney, Wingard, Sicily, Rayner, Higgins, Ahern
    (Em:-Baker, Ryan )

    43k left in the kitty!

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    1. Big POD in Kreuzer with few Coaches looking to start with him. Many have gone cold on Grundy with news that Mason Cox will spend more time in the Ruck this year. Nice POD in Merrett, no reason he can’t go on with it.
      Same comments here on Sicily that I mentioned on Ben’s team below…..maybe better in DEF?

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  25. My first proper draft now that SC is open!

    DEF: R. Laird, M. Hibberd, L. McDonald, C. O’Shea, T. Doedee, S. Murray (L. Keeffe, H. Goddard)

    MID: D. Martin, T. Mitchell, J. Kelly, D. Zorko, N. Fyfe, P. Cripps, L. Davies-Uniacke, D. Fogarty (P. Ahern, T. Kelly, J. Worpel)

    RUCK: S. Jacobs, M. Gawn (T. Olango)

    FWD: I. Heeney, C. Curnow, J. Sicily, A. Christensen, H. Balic, J. Higgins (D. Venables, J. Garlett)

    Let us know what you think!

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    1. Just my personal opinion, but if you’re going with Sicily then I’d prefer to see him in DEF. I think his chances are better of being a Top10 DEF than a Top10 FWD…….again, just my opinion. Dangerfield missing always sticks out but it’s a gamble that many will be taking…….

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  26. Yeo, Laird, Lloyd, Doedee, Garthwaite, Goddard (nutting, Hayball)

    martin, Kelly, Zorko, Crouch, Fyfe, Cripps, LDU, Higgins (Worpel, wigg,Kelly)

    Gawn, Nat (Rookie)

    Heeney, Wingard, De Goey, Petracca, Garlett, Ballenden ( miers, Ahern)

    Rookies have not been selected with thought but thrown in to get team in. comment what you think

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    1. Nice POD in Wingard. No Danger, Dusty or T.Mitchell really sticks out but if it paid off, you’d look like an absolute genius 😉
      De Goey AND Petracca looks a little too risky. I’d back one in to make the Top6 FWDs but not both……

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  27. I currently have Gawn and nicnat (olango) in my rucks. I want drop nicnat. Who should I replace him with? I have $479,800.
    Thanks.

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    1. Either you drop down to Dawson Simpson and take the gamble with him or you find the extra cash for a Ryder/Martin/Jacobs/Goldstein…….

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  28. Def: E. Yeo, R. Laird, J. Lloyd, A. Brayshaw, N. Coffield, C. O’shea (T. Doedee, S. Murray)

    Mid: D.Martin, T. Mitchell, J. Kelly, N. Fyfe, I. Heeney, P. Dow, L. Davies-Uniacke, P. Ahern (T. Kelly, J. Worpel, D, Barry)

    Ruck: M. Gawn, N. Naitanui (T. English)

    Fwd: J. Billings, R. Gray, L. Dahlhaus, C. Rayner, J. Stephenson, J. Higgins (J. Garlett, L. Ryan)

    $209.9k salary cap left
    1772 projected round 1 score

    Thoughts? Much apprectiated. Cheers!

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    1. Very solid.

      Not convinced with Lloyd as long as McVeigh is playing, he really hurt his scores in the back half of the year. Heeney could be slow after his off-season surgery, I’s use the spare cash to upgrade those 2.

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  29. Laird, Hibberd, Naughton, O’Shea, Murray, Goddard EMG Keefe, Doedee

    Martin, Kelly, Mitchell, Crouch, Merrett, Fyfe, Brodie, LDU EMG Kelly, Worpel, Barry

    Gawn, Nic Nat EMG Cameron

    Heeney, Gray, Petracca, Lobb, Ah Chee, Starcevich EMG Higgins, Ryan

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    1. That backline is way to ambitious. I would free up some cash from the forward line and bring in one more premo up there. Love the midfield though.

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      1. Cheers Hutta I know it’s my biggest problem I need to find a way to bring in either Pearce Hanley, Nathan Wilson or Callum Mills by maybe swapping Lobb for another Rookie. Any other defenders around the 400k or under mark you reckon will do Well this year?

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        1. A lot have their eyes set on McGrath as he could be in the position of the 2018 Clayton Oliver. Both started at 380-390k 2nd year and with more time in the midfield for Mcgrath in a team looking at top 8, he could be a great chance.

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        2. I’m guns, rookies and proven premiums who are returning from injury. I don’t mine Hanley and he’s been in a few iterations of my team. I don’t mind the defenders premiums this year so it’s not a line I’m risking on, if rookies are scarce back there, I’ll load up on 4 true premiums.

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    2. Thoughts on where I can improve my
      Team would be appreciated. I know I’m
      Running a risk in the back line but seems to be some really good rookie options that should get early Games. Long way to go before round 1

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  30. First submission of a team but surely not my last!

    DEF: Laird, Hibberd, L.McDonald, O’Shea, Doedee, Morgan (Murray, Goddard)

    MID: Titch, Kelly, Zorko, Merrett, Fyfe, Cripps, LDU, Higgins (Ahern, Kelly, Worpel)

    RUCK: Jacobs, Gawn (Cameron)

    FWD: Heeney, Billings, Petracca, Christensen, W.Rioli, Garlett (Keeffe, Ryan)

    Left with 93,200 itb so i should be completely fine to change rookies as it stands.
    Gone with more of a premium/rookie structure as i had a few midpricers and i just couldn’t accept it with the likes of McGrath and Devon Smith alson in with my other midpricers. Had to cut back

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    1. Risky with no Danger or Dusty but if you think they will both drop in price fast enough for you to not miss out on too many points then it may be a solid call

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      1. I feel like i can accept not having Dusty at the start but Danger is always in my mind. I really need to see how Ablett effects the scoring of Danger during preseason. If it seems like nothing has changed in scoring output he will have to be brought in somehow

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  31. CattasClan@SCT mk11

    Having a few days off it’s been great to tinker with my SC team, after a few tweaks to my 1st selected Team, ample feed back & some good old fashion research I’ve come up with this team!

    Def … Laird, Hibberd, H Shaw, O’Shea, Doedee, Keefe ( emg Murray & Mirra )
    Mid … Dusty, Mitchell, Zorko, M Crouch, Fyfe, Cripps, Rayner, Davies-Uniacke
    ( emg Kelly, Barry & Hopman )
    Ruc …Jacobs, Gawn ( emg D Cameron )
    Fwd … Heeney, R Gray, C Curnow, Christensen, Higgins, Ahern
    ( emg Venables & Garlett )
    $49,000 in the bank

    Love your feed back SCT community

    Cheers Catta

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    1. You always put up a solid team Catta. I expect you’ll be able to downgrade Rayner to free up some cash once we know more, but he’s not one to be relevant this year. After last year, can’t believe you are on the Shaw train but great value IF he’s goes back to being the No1 distributor across half back, will be keeping a solid eye throughout the JLT.

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      1. Cheers, Hutta

        Always appreciate your knowledgeable feed back.

        Spot on with Rayner ( +$80k ) if needed, Shaw is an interesting one due to injuries & departures at GWS. I’ll have enough $$$$ to down Rayner / up Shaw to Hurley (like ) if things don’t look good throughout the JLT series.

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      1. Atm, Thommo

        Going without Danger nets me 6 of whom I see as potential top 10 midfielders by seasons end ( depending LT injuries of course )

        Could change 15 times before R1 though mate

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  32. Liam Ryan and Willie Rioli have been training with the number one line during their training sessions. Eagles forward line coach reckons they’re going to try and emulate Richmond, this might be good for rookies and JJK.

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  33. Thoughts on this team. Not a finished team, I’m just playing around with a few different structures at this stage.

    Defence:
    M. Hurley, M. Hibbered, R. Laird
    J. Sicily, T. Doedee, R. Gardner
    (S. Murray, A Morgan

    Midfield:
    P. Dangerfield, T. Mitchell, N. Fyfe,
    P. Cripps, E. Curnow, S. Coniglio
    B. Ah Che, LDU (T. Kelly, P. Ahern, J. Worpel)

    Ruck:
    M. Gawn, S. Jacobs (T. Olango)

    Forwards:
    M. Barlow, M. Robinson, R. Lobb
    A. Christensen, J. Higgins, S. Switkowski
    (J. Garlett, L. Ryan)

    $27,100 in bank.

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  34. hi All, let me know what you think of this team. This is the second version of my team so far.

    Rookies of course are subject to JLT performance and Round 1 selection.

    $40,200 left in the bank

    DEF:
    M. Hurley, R. Laird, M. Hibberd
    C. O’Shea, T. Doedee, A. Morgan
    (S. Murray, L. Keeffe)

    MID:
    P. Dangerfield, D. Martin,
    T. Mitchell, J. Kelly, C. Blakely
    L. Davies-Uniacke, H. Clark, J. Garlett
    (J. Dawson, T. Kelly, N. Holman)

    RUC:
    S. Jacobs, M. Gawn
    (D. Cameron)

    FWD:
    I. Heeney, J. Billings, R. Gray
    D. Smith, P. Ahern, W. Rioli
    (B. Starcevich, L. Ryan)

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    1. Midfield looks a bit light IMO

      I’d be looking at downgrading Smith to a fwd rookie or Christensen, then upgrading Blakely to an A grader midfielder like Mitchell, Merrett or Fyfe like.

      That will give you a 3, 5, 2, 3 structure of premium keepers from R1

      Rest of the team looks good, Simon

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  35. Feel free to offer any suggestions or comments

    Defenders

    M. Hurley, R. Laird, K. Simpson
    T. Doedee, S. Murray, I. Cumming

    (A. McPherson, N. Murphy)

    Midfielders

    P. Dangerfield, D. Martin
    T. Mitchell, N. Fyfe, P. Cripps
    S. Congilio, P. Dow, L. Davies-Uniacke

    (P. Ahern, T. Kelly, N. Holman)

    Rucks

    P. Ryder, M. Gawn

    (T. Olango)

    Forwards

    I. Heeney, J. Billings, C. Curnow
    A. Christensen, J. Higgins, J. Garlett

    (L. Keefee, L. Ryan)

    $6,400 remaining salary

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  36. I’m seeing alot of teams with 3 on-field rookies in the backline which is concerning me a little. I think 3 on-field rookies in any line is too light with the exception of maybe the mids but even then I think it’s probably the wrong move. After last year’s horror with limited playing rookies, it became clear that you had to look elsewhere for players to get the job done. I’m not super confident we’ll have a plethora of good rookies this year either, which is why I’ve got only 2 on-field rookies on each line and even that is making me feel a tad vulnerable at times.
    I know it’s early days still and who knows, we could get real lucky and hit the jackpot with a heap of young and cheap talent who end up providing us with ample gametime and points, but I think it’s something to keep in the back of our minds when playing with teams and structures.

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    1. I agree with what you are saying which is why Team looks like this at the moment…

      Defenders:
      M. Hibberd, R. Laird, C. Mills
      A. Brayshaw, C. O’Shea, S. Murray (T. Doedee, D. Langlands)

      Midfielders:
      P. Dangerfield, D. Martin
      T. Mitchell, N. Fyfe, P. Cripps
      L. Davies-Uniacke, W. Brodie, P. Dow (P. Ahern, J. Garlett, N. Coffield)

      Rucks:
      NicNat, M. Gawn (T. English)

      Forwards:
      T. Greene, L. Dahlaus, C. Curnow
      A. Christensen, W. Setterfield, D. Venables (L. Ryan, J. Higgins)

      $99,700 still in the bank.

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  37. Hi Fellow Supercoaches, comments and suggestions are very welcome!

    DEF: M.Hurley, R.Laird, J.Howe, T.Doedee, S.Murray, H.Goddard,
    (I.Cumming, D.Mirra)

    MID: P.Dangerfield, Z.Merrett, N.Fyfe, M.Bontempelli, J.Selwood, LUD, T.Kelly,
    (J.Garlett, J.Worpel, D.Barry)

    RUC: M.Gawn, N.Naitanui
    (T.Olango)

    FWD: I.Heeney, C.Wingard, C.Curnow, R.Lobb, J.Higgins, P.Ahern,
    (L.Keeffe, D. Venables)

    I am considering bringing in Christensen for one of Curnow or Lobb and I am tooing and frooing over the Selwood selection for someone like M.Crouch.

    Thanks!

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  38. HURLEY LAIRD HIBBERD
    C. OSHEA T.DOEDEE S.MURRAY – L.KEEFE. B. MIOCECK

    DANGERFIELD D. MARTIN T. MITCHELL N.FYFE M.BONTEMPELLI
    LDU J. WORPEL T.KELLY – D. BARRY P. AHERN H. BRAYSHAW

    GAWN NICNAT R. ABBOT

    MENAGOLA HEENEY BILLINGS DAHLHAUS J. HIGGINS
    J. GARLETT – D.VENABLES K. KIRBY

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    1. Balanced and solid across the park. Perhaps one mid short, but if that’s where the bulk of the playing rookies are come Round 1, we may see a heap of coaches shuffle things around to strengthen their back or forward lines.

      Menegola is the biggest cause for concern in your side though. Had a good year, but with Danger, Selwood x2, Ablett, Murdoch, Duncan and Guthrie, he’s hard up against it trying to get full-time midfield minutes. Expecting to see him spend plenty of time up forward, which could see his scores drop a little based on reduced contested numbers. My feeling on him is that he’s a solid wait-and-see option. Not likely to get more expensive, so you won’t miss the boat by not starting him, but there’s potential for him to slide down to a mid-90 average in the high $400k range and you can get upgrade to him around the byes.

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    Def: Laird, hibberd, Hanley, o’shea, Doedee, murray (Richards, Goddard)

    Mids: danger, Mitchell, kelly, m. Crouch, Merrett, Angus Brayshaw, ldu, Starcevich (Garlett, worpel, Holman)

    Rucks: Jacobs, Gawn (Cameron)

    Forw: Heeney, Billings, McLean, Christensen, Ahern, Switkowski ( Rioli, Ryan)

    173k in the bank
    Comments appreciated

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    1. Could use some of that cash to take McLean up to Dahl and Starcevich up to Paddy Dow? Would leave you with about 70k

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  40. Cameron, English or Olango?

    Noticed everyone is a bit different there. Do you think because of Tippett’s retirement Cameron is more likely to play?

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    1. I really like Cameron but willhe get a game when he is up against Naismith and Sinclair? English in my opinion is more likely to get a game with Roughead, Campbell and Boyd not playing very many games last year (most was Roughead’s 13). Olango is an interesting choice depending on who your other rucks are because if you’re one of the 52.6% of people that own NicNat you won’t be able to loophole him however you do save a bit of cash to spend elsewhere. I’m pretty keen on Cameron but will swap to English or a NPR depending on JLT selections but I’d love to hear other peoples thoughts on this as well.

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  41. Gawn With the Win

    Def: Hurley, Laird, Roberton, Coffield, Cumming, Keefe (Murray, Doedee)
    Mid: Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe, Bont, Gibbs, Cripps, Davies-Uniacke, Ahern (Wigg, Kelly, Holman)
    Ruck: Gawn, Natanui (Hayes)
    Fwd: Heeney, Billings, Curnow, Lobb, Higgins, Ryan (Rioli, Garlett)

    Would love some feedback on this initail team. I think its fairly well-balanced with a reliable midfield.

    $41k in the bank

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  42. Def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, O’shea, Richards, Doedee (Morgan, Goddard)

    Mid: Danger, Dusty, Titchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Coniglio, LDU, Wigg (Kelly, Barry, Holman)

    Ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Hayes)

    Fwd: Heeney, Billings, Gray, Higgins, Ahern, Ryan (Venables, Spargo)

    $12.8k in the bank

    Thoughts

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    1. With the exception of your rucks you clearly think last year’s best performers are going to be this best performers and history shows that that doesn’t happen.
      I would suggest putting in a couple of cheaper guns and looking for rookies or value players with better job security and scoring potential otherwise you may find your side is still guns and rookies well into the season.

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      1. Interesting advice…

        30 trades to facilitate 8 upgrades throughout the season. As long as there are sufficient playing rookies (and there always are, it’s just a matter of picking them) then I can’t say any danger of finishing the season with rookies still on-field.

        Budget picks evident in Fyfe, Coniglio, Gawn, NicNat and Gray based on their potential output. The top defenders are chalk and cheese compared with the rest of the pack, no issues with spending up there.

        Who’s missing from the bargain bin? Cripps the notable one, other than that it’s speculation on breakout candidates like Wilson, Brayshaw, O’Meara, Curnow, Lobb and Ah Chee. Or significant injury risks in Christensen and Deledio.

        It’s true that having a couple of POD selections is important, but taking risks for the sake of being different isn’t any more commendable than banking on proven performers and trading smartly throughout the season.

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        1. Sorry Blue Balls but come the end of the season you can throw a blanket over the top twenty midfielders so I don’t think it is necessary to spend so much money on picking the five most expensive first up.
          If he took that philosophy last year he wouldn’t have had Hurley, Yeo, Martin, Mitchell,Kelly, Heeney or Billings but those who did take two or three of those speculative but not unrealistic picks reaped the benefit.
          I know we all have our own way of selecting our teams which is great otherwise we would all have clones of each other but I personally think simply picking last year’s best performers is spending money that could be better used elsewhere.

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          1. Throw a blanket over the top 20 mids? The 20th best mid last year was Gibbs with a 102 avg. There is a clear divide between the very good players in the competition and the absolute elite.

            Yes, there’s always movement amongst the ranks, but it’s hard to criticise the selections of Danger, Dusty, Titch and Kelly. Danger is at his peak and blitzed the next best option by 20pts per game last season. Dusty coming off a career best year in a young premiership contending side. Mitchell and Kelly young guns with scope for improvement.

            Beyond that it’s Fyfe and Coniglio as underpriced premiums. Fyfe more proven, and looked dangerous in the International Rules series so hopefully back to his best. Coniglio isn’t in my side, but the justification for picking him is solid.

            Heeney and Billings young lads entering their best years. Gray had a down year and is underpriced on previous form.

            With Doc and Williams out for the year, spending a bit more on Hurley, Yeo and Laird makes plenty of sense as well. Hard to see them slipping very far down the rankings, and hard to pick which mid-pricer(s) will shoot up.

            I don’t disagree with your overall sentiment, that spending big can be detrimental to team structure – I just don’t think this team is an example of that scenario. Solid premium picks on all lines, only 8 rookies on-field, and the majority of them are 2nd/3rd year players or mature-age recruits with decent opportunity prospects. The perfect example in my mind would be all the people who persisted with the tried and true Pendles or Selwood selections last season. Aging mids who were overtaken by younger contemporaries.

            You don’t need to reinvent the wheel to do well in Supercoach, making the right trades at the right times is where the game is won or lost. And the fact that sometimes people get lucky with a Hail Mary left-field selection doesn’t mean jamming 5 of them into your starting team is wise.

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            1. Don’t disagree with your arguments Blue Balls but I am going to pick a couple of the uber premiums with two or three I think are undervalued and hope to get one or two of the ubers if/when their price falls. And with undervalued I am still looking at 500k plus players.

              You must be the one who reads this site more than I do.

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              1. Ha! Pretty quiet at work, so I’ve got plenty of time to tinker and analyse 😛

                It’s a tough ask, working out which premiums will hold their value and which will drop at the right time so they can be picked up cheap. I’m taking the punt that Danger comes down a little at some point, and I’ve swapped Crouch out for Kelly at this stage purely because of Kelly’s amazing consistency last year.

                Watch as Crouch pushes up to a 120avg and Kelly drops a 40pt score in Round 5 to tank his price…

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                1. I could do a lot with the money from going Danger to Dusty but haven’t got the balls to do it.
                  And when you start picking your team in December/January you are always going to have the ones that got away and curse yourself for not sticking with your first thoughts.

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  43. Def: Laird, H Shaw, Wilson, Sicily, O’shea, Doedee – Keeffe, Murray
    Mid: Danger, Dusty, J Kelly, Fyfe, JOM, LDU, Titch, T. Kelly – Wigg, Freeman, Worpel
    Ruck: Jacobs, Gawn – Pittonet
    Forwards: Heeney, D Smith, Stringer, Christensen, Ahern, L Ryan – J Higgins, J Garlett.

    Bank: $112,000
    Thoughts on all, especially Pittonet

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  44. Def: Laird Simpson Witherden Saad Coffield O’Shea (Clavarino Hayball)
    Mid: Danger Dusty Titch Zorko M. Crouch Dow LDU Ahern (Mutch Spargo Naish)
    Ruck: Kreuzer Gawn (Olango)
    Fwd: Heeney Billings Walters Higgins Kirby Petrucelle (Keefe Venables)
    1.5k left
    Couple of risks down back in Witherden and Saad but I feel like at least one will finish with a 90+ avg at end of season. Also allows me to pick proven guns in the mids. Confident Billings and Walters can both go 95+ as well.
    Let me know what you guys think

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  45. I’ve gone with a defence of :
    Yeo, Laird, H Shaw, Birchall, O’Shea, Doedee (Morgan, Murray)

    Mid: Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, LDU, Ahern (Freeman, Kelly, Holman)
    Ruc: Gawn, Naitanui (De Koning)

    Fwd : Heeney, Gray, Stringer, Deledio, Raynor, Jarrod Garlett (J Higgins, Liam Ryan)

    Whatchya think Schwartzwalder?? Soz if not spelt correctly

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    1. All good, Champ……..
      Yeo, Birchall and NicNat have all had minor setbacks over the off-season, keep a close eye on them. Not a big fan of Stringer as a Supercoach option. He may indeed have an impact at the Bombers but I can’t see him averaging more than 90 for the season. Good luck!

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  46. No Danger as a Captain option could hurt Chris!

    Yeo and Birchall in the backs not travelling well at this early stage of the Pre – Season from all reports.

    A risky forward line starting will all 3 Gray , Stringer and Deledio.

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  47. Birchall to Angus Brayshaw @316k with his Mid – Back DPP status might be a better option than Lever.

    Buyer beware with Nic Nat after reports as late as today he is not tracking that well. So spending a bit more on a durable Jacobs is a better option IMHO.

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  48. Yeah it is pretty solid with a few risk vs reward , and of course the rookies will still need adjusting closer to kick off and , after getting a look at the cashcows in their pre season hit outs.

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  49. I’ve decided to opt for.lever ahead of brayshaw because I feel like I need a more consistent score, and with Jake Lever not having any lingering health issues such as Brayshaw, Lever will be a better option.

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  50. Def: Hurley, Laird, Hanley, Brayshaw, Coffield, Doedee (Murray, Mirra)

    Mid: Danger, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Beams, Blakely, Dunstan, Bailey (T.Kelly, Garlett, Holman)

    Ruck: Gawn, Nat (olango)

    Fwd: Walters, Lobb, Christensen, Ah Chee, Higgins, Ryan (Venables, Ahern)

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  51. Laird-Hibberd-Witherden-Birchall-O’Shea-Doedee

    Murray-Richards

    Dangerfield-Martin-Kelly-Mitchell-Fyfe-Cripps-Brodie-Davies-Uniacke

    Holman – Clark – Kelly

    Jacobs- Gawn

    Cameron

    Gray-Smith-Christensen-Higgins- Adhern-Ryan

    Venebles-Garlett

    I know I’m very life in the forward line. Percentages and odds say that the must have forwards reveal themselves much further down the track in the season. Also generally forward are the section that have the least players averaging 100. In turn that’s why I believe in a stacked midfield as 70-80 of the scoring generally come from this area. Being very limited rookie ruckman I think set and forget is the only option this year I think there are various combination that could work I’m going with the ever reliable Jacobs and the risk of Gawn cause he has a huge ceiling. The backline I think is the spot where one or two mid price or high end rookies could be selected and benefit your team. Witherden was ultra impressive in his first season and with a bit of extra experience down back in Hodge I think he will benefit greatly. Ticks all the boxes for a high scoring Supercoach defender.

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  52. DEF: M. Hurley, R. Laird, M. Hibberd, G. Birchall, C. O’Shea, T. Doedee
    (S. Murray, L. Keeffe)

    MID: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, R. Sloane, N. Fyfe, P. Cripps, S. Coniglio, L. Davies-Uinacke, H. Wigg
    (N. Freeman, T. Kelly, J. Worpel)

    RUCK: M. Gawn, N. Naitanui
    (D. Cameron)

    FWD: L. Franklin, R. Gray, B. Deledio, A. Christensen, J. Higgins, P. Ahern
    (D. Venables, J. Garlett)

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  53. G’day guys,
    Have tinkered the team a bit and almost settled on this structure for now.
    DEF: Hurley, Laird, Hibberd, Murray, Doedee, Richards (Gardiner, Morgan)
    MID: Danger, Titch, Crouch, Fyfe, Bont, Cripps, LDU, Kelly (Garlett, Worpel, Holman)
    RUCK: Jacobs, Gawn (Olango)
    FWD: Billings, Gray, Lobb, Christensen, Higgins, Ahern (Ryan, Venables)
    $35,500 in the bank

    Dropped NicNat for now and would love to fit Curnow in the fwd line, but can’t at this stage. Bont may become Oliver/Kelly

    Any feedback appreciated. Cheers

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    1. First Draft, opinions would be appreciated:
      Laird, Hibbard, Z.Williams, Marchbank, Richards, Doedee
      O’Shea Murray.

      Martin, Mitchell, Merritt, Fyfe, Cripps, Dow, LDU, Brodie.
      Bailey, Polson, Poholke.

      Kruez, Gawn. Camron

      Menegola? Billings, Curnow, Ah Cheee, Venables, Garlett.
      Higgins, Ryan.

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  54. Laird Simpson crisp Hanley johannisen Francis (Goddard Doedee)
    Fyfe zerret Cripps Heeney petracca Toumpas LDU Holman (Kelly Barry t Murphy)
    Gawn nicnat (English)
    Greene Dahlhaus d Smith c curnow j Higgins Ahern (Venables m Lynch) 58k left over. M Lynch to be used as permanent loophole

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  55. Have been around 10k-20k for a few years now but have seemed to peak around that mark so I will be going a bit more POD this year in a hope to improve a bit as I feel this year most teams will be very similar.
    Def: Yeo, Laird, Houli, O’Shea, J Smith, Cumming (Doedee, Murray)
    Mid: Dusty, Oliver, M Crouch, Fyfe, D Beams, Cripps, Higgins, T Kelly (Garlett, Worpel, Fogarty)
    Rucks: Gawn & Longer (Pittonet)
    Fwds: Billings, Gray, Dahlhaus, B Brown, W Rioli, Ahern (Dawson, Miers).
    Have room to move with rookies and they are obviously not set in stone.
    Happy for feedback.

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