Rate My Team

Written by Motts on March 9 2010

Rusty’s Team

Defenders: Gilbert, Hodge, H. O’Brien, Kennelly, Malceski, Ladson, Greenwood
Emg: Maguire, P. Davis

Mids: Swan, Mitchell, Harvey, Higgins, Masten, Cotchin
Emg: Trengove, Moles

Rucks: M. Clark, Warnock
Emg: Bellchambers, Skipper

Forwards: J. Brown, Franklin, LeCras, Tippett, T. Cloke, J. Kennedy, Medhurst
Emg: Rusling, G. Rohan

Rusty not only submitted his team but also gave me some insight into why certain options were made and some of the risks he thought he was taking by making those choices. Here’s what he said:

“Risks: I have taken quite a few deliberate risks during selection, which could either make me look very foolish, or pay dividends nicely. Malceski, Ladson, Cotchin, Warnock and Rusling have all had their injury woes, but given their respective quality, would not be found at the bargain prices had they not. If each remain fit, it’s hard to see their stock not rising rapidly.

Weakness: The ruck department is definitely one area I have skimped on. Having said that, I’m fairly confident that each player will get game time throughout the season .

One area a team can be made or broken is with the emergencies. I have followed, with close interest, the impressive crop of young midfielders currently making names for themselves in the NAB cup/challenge matches. Any one of 4 or 5 first year players could easily slot into their respective teams come round one, and this is one area I have not completely settled on.

As a pies supporter (yes, I do realize your criticism may no longer be constructive) I believe Harry O’Brien is set for a fantastic year. At very least, his price will stay steady, barring injury. I’m not completely set on Travis Cloke as yet, but he’s fit, has a point to prove and has put some distance between himself and some off field dramas which would adversely affect anybody’s psyche. His goal kicking lets him down, so it’s a good thing that this is not the only area points can be scored. One of the best contested marks in the league should increase his average this year, I hope.

This leaves $64,300 in the bank. Where should I be spending this?”

The issue I have with the structure is the weakness of the ruck division compared to the power of the midfield. Its not enough for players who are on your field just to get game time. These guys need to score for you week in, week out and hopefully score well. My advice here would be to trade Cotchin for a first year player, push Warnock to the bench, and upgrade Bellchambers to a premier ruck. I haven’t done the math but choose any name from Cox, Sandilands, Petrie, Jolly, Ottens, Kreuzer, McIntosh, even Naitanui. You have taken some risks with some of your defender and forward options but in most cases I think they’re worth taking (except for Rusling). All up I’d give this team a 7.5/10. Good effort.

Defenders – This all looks good except for one bloke. And I’m not just saying this because of the way I feel about the Pies. Harry O, as good as he’s been looking at the moment, had an average last year of 70 and plays mainly a shutdown style of footy. I think there are better options available. Maguire and Davis are fine as cash cows.

Mids – You haven’t scrimped at all here. Clearly the strength of your side. Any one of the first 4 blokes listed could take the captaincy. You are taking a risk with Cotchin given his history and I found it interesting that you haven’t included any of the rookies that everyone is talking about this year, namely Martin, Barlow, Banner, or Shuey. I guess you’re aiming to differentiate from your competitors. Trengove over Scully is the correct choice.

Rucks – As you suspected, this is where your weakness lies. With Leuenberger and eventually Charman back, Clark won’t get the same amount of time in the ruck as he did last year which could negatively impact his score. When a guy is worth $500k that’s a big risk. Warnock is great as your first bench ruck but hasn’t yet played a regular season game for Carlton and therefore shouldn’t be on your field. I would cut back somewhere else to grab a more proven player. Hille would be the obvious choice given his value and your propensity for risk taking. Bellchambers could struggle to get a game this year and Skipper looks a solid choice after Taylor went down over the weekend.

Forwards – Solid. I think Jono will get more opportunities given to him than Fev but I’d still like to see how it all goes before picking him. Franklin and Tippett are set for a great year. LeCras could play a midfield role this year so I like him and I’ve always been a fan of Kennedy, I just wish he would realise his potential. Medhurst is looking good and if you’re a Pies man then I can understand the Cloke choice (I just don’t agree with it). Rusling is the biggest risk you’ve taken in this team – I just get the feeling he’s going to be one of these blokes that never gets right. Rohan is a good second bench option.

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  1. I’m a Pies fan and I’ve got to say, as much as I am pumped about a big year from Harry, I dont think his style of game suits fantasy football. He runs and carries, but doesn’t kick long, rarely kicks goals and doesn’t rack up positions. He’s definitely a ‘glue’ guy, bringing a lot of intangibles to the Pies backs…

    Btw, how does one go about submitting a team for ‘Rate my Team’?

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  2. Hey guys I was wondering if you can rate my team. Cheers.

    DEFENSE:
    goddard, enright, hodge, kenelley, hunt, ladson, sheppard
    EMG: P. Davis, A. Smith

    MIDFIELD:
    Ablett, Cooney, Ball, Boak, Trengove, Martin
    EMG: Banner, Bastinac

    RUCK:
    Jolly, Tippett
    EMG: Lobbe, Currie

    FORWARDS:
    Riewoldt, Pavlich, Brown, Franklin, Hawkins, Ziebell, Medhurst
    EMG: Rohan, Rockliff.

    I appreciate any feedback.
    Cheers guys

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  3. Well, I’m going to throw my team up for a grilling as well.

    Backs:
    Drummons, Enright, Hodge, Gilbee, Harry O’B, Kennelly, B Waters. Emerg: Maguire, Shepherd

    Mids: Swan, Selwood, Cooney, Ziebiell, Martin, Morabitto, Emerg: Barlow, Banner

    Rucks: Pettrie, Hille Emerg: Warnock, Lobbe

    Frwrds: Pavlich, Brent Harvey, Higgins, Franklin, Tippett, Gia, Polak, Emerg: Gumbleton, Pods

    I’m no longer sure about Cooney, and with 63k in the bank, might look to upgrade. Although, I know from previous experience, it’s good to have some $$’s left over for trading.

    All emergencies and 1st year players are to be confirmed as long as they are playing the first round.

    Cheers
    Brad

    PS: Not sure why, but thing Harry O might have a different job this year.

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  4. guys can you please rate my team?

    DEFENSE
    Goddard, Enright, H.Shaw, Hodge, Gram, Gilbee, Hunt
    EMG: Trangrove, A.Smith

    MIDFIELD
    Dal Santo, Bartel, Ball, Ladson, Trengove, Martin
    EMG: Banner, Bastinac

    RUCK
    Tippett, Natinui
    EMG: Currie, Roughead

    FORWARDS
    Riewoldt, Higgins, Franklin, Coke, Hall, Ziebell, Walker
    EMG: ROckliff, Rohan

    Please provide any advice and feedback
    Cheers guys

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Rate My Team

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Rusty’s Team

Defenders: Gilbert, Hodge, H. O’Brien, Kennelly, Malceski, Ladson, Greenwood
Emg: Maguire, P. Davis

Mids: Swan, Mitchell, Harvey, Higgins, Masten, Cotchin
Emg: Trengove, Moles

Rucks: M. Clark, Warnock
Emg: Bellchambers, Skipper

Forwards: J. Brown, Franklin, LeCras, Tippett, T. Cloke, J. Kennedy, Medhurst
Emg: Rusling, G. Rohan

Rusty not only submitted his team but also gave me some insight into why certain options were made and some of the risks he thought he was taking by making those choices. Here’s what he said:

“Risks: I have taken quite a few deliberate risks during selection, which could either make me look very foolish, or pay dividends nicely. Malceski, Ladson, Cotchin, Warnock and Rusling have all had their injury woes, but given their respective quality, would not be found at the bargain prices had they not. If each remain fit, it’s hard to see their stock not rising rapidly.

Weakness: The ruck department is definitely one area I have skimped on. Having said that, I’m fairly confident that each player will get game time throughout the season .

One area a team can be made or broken is with the emergencies. I have followed, with close interest, the impressive crop of young midfielders currently making names for themselves in the NAB cup/challenge matches. Any one of 4 or 5 first year players could easily slot into their respective teams come round one, and this is one area I have not completely settled on.

As a pies supporter (yes, I do realize your criticism may no longer be constructive) I believe Harry O’Brien is set for a fantastic year. At very least, his price will stay steady, barring injury. I’m not completely set on Travis Cloke as yet, but he’s fit, has a point to prove and has put some distance between himself and some off field dramas which would adversely affect anybody’s psyche. His goal kicking lets him down, so it’s a good thing that this is not the only area points can be scored. One of the best contested marks in the league should increase his average this year, I hope.

This leaves $64,300 in the bank. Where should I be spending this?”

The issue I have with the structure is the weakness of the ruck division compared to the power of the midfield. Its not enough for players who are on your field just to get game time. These guys need to score for you week in, week out and hopefully score well. My advice here would be to trade Cotchin for a first year player, push Warnock to the bench, and upgrade Bellchambers to a premier ruck. I haven’t done the math but choose any name from Cox, Sandilands, Petrie, Jolly, Ottens, Kreuzer, McIntosh, even Naitanui. You have taken some risks with some of your defender and forward options but in most cases I think they’re worth taking (except for Rusling). All up I’d give this team a 7.5/10. Good effort.

Defenders – This all looks good except for one bloke. And I’m not just saying this because of the way I feel about the Pies. Harry O, as good as he’s been looking at the moment, had an average last year of 70 and plays mainly a shutdown style of footy. I think there are better options available. Maguire and Davis are fine as cash cows.

Mids – You haven’t scrimped at all here. Clearly the strength of your side. Any one of the first 4 blokes listed could take the captaincy. You are taking a risk with Cotchin given his history and I found it interesting that you haven’t included any of the rookies that everyone is talking about this year, namely Martin, Barlow, Banner, or Shuey. I guess you’re aiming to differentiate from your competitors. Trengove over Scully is the correct choice.

Rucks – As you suspected, this is where your weakness lies. With Leuenberger and eventually Charman back, Clark won’t get the same amount of time in the ruck as he did last year which could negatively impact his score. When a guy is worth $500k that’s a big risk. Warnock is great as your first bench ruck but hasn’t yet played a regular season game for Carlton and therefore shouldn’t be on your field. I would cut back somewhere else to grab a more proven player. Hille would be the obvious choice given his value and your propensity for risk taking. Bellchambers could struggle to get a game this year and Skipper looks a solid choice after Taylor went down over the weekend.

Forwards – Solid. I think Jono will get more opportunities given to him than Fev but I’d still like to see how it all goes before picking him. Franklin and Tippett are set for a great year. LeCras could play a midfield role this year so I like him and I’ve always been a fan of Kennedy, I just wish he would realise his potential. Medhurst is looking good and if you’re a Pies man then I can understand the Cloke choice (I just don’t agree with it). Rusling is the biggest risk you’ve taken in this team – I just get the feeling he’s going to be one of these blokes that never gets right. Rohan is a good second bench option.

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  1. I’m a Pies fan and I’ve got to say, as much as I am pumped about a big year from Harry, I dont think his style of game suits fantasy football. He runs and carries, but doesn’t kick long, rarely kicks goals and doesn’t rack up positions. He’s definitely a ‘glue’ guy, bringing a lot of intangibles to the Pies backs…

    Btw, how does one go about submitting a team for ‘Rate my Team’?

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    1. Ah Cheers Motts. Here’s what I got:

      BACKS: Goddard, Hargrave, Hurn, S Thompson, Kennelly, Hunt, Maguire (with P Davis and A Silvagni)
      I’m concerned I’m investing a lot in returning players here: Kennelly an Hunt may be lighting it up now but once the real season starts who knows? Maguire is purely a money buy – I’d invisage Davis could even have a better season. I’ve toyed at times with Talia as a possible one as well

      MIDS: Pendlebury, Mitchell, Selwood, Dangerfield, Ziebell, Palmer (with Trengove and Moles)
      I’m probably most happy with my mids balance, but it does
      rely on Palmer bouncing back and Trengove and Moles having an ongoing impact. I’m completely shattered if Dangerfield and Ziebell don’t come on…hope they are the studs they look like becoming! The other option I’ve been considering is McVeigh though I’m not as high on him as others

      RUCKS: Sandilands and Charman (with Jordan Roughead and Lobbe)
      charman is the weak link here definitely. If he doesn’t pull up soon I’ll be rolling one ruck.Eeek.

      FWDS: Goodes, Harvey, Tippett, Medhurst, N Riewoldt, J Riewoldt, Rohan (with Rockliff and Podsiadily)
      this is the area I’m most unsettled I’ve changed combos so many times and still have risks everywhere: Medders is value for money really but by how much? Will JR take over the Richo mantle at Tigerland? Will Rohan get a game on the rebuilding Swans?

      So that’s me…for this week at least. Would value your thoughts!

      Cheers

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      1. Backs – Hurn and Thompson both finished 2nd in their club B&F’s last year. Hurn I like, Thompson I don’t think will average much more than the 80 he got last year. Silvagni won’t play so put Maguire on the bench for him and pick someone else on field (not a first year player).

        Mids – I swapped out Palmer for McVeigh when he got injured again recently. I’d put one of either Dangerfield or Ziebell in your forward line to take advantage of the new DPP rule. Bring a specialist midfielder in – the midfield is where you can safely use a first year player because they can still score reasonably heavily.

        Rucks – Charman scares the bejesus out of me. Why risk it?

        Forwards – Keep the first year players on the bench here and you’ll be fine. Bring one of Dangers or Ziebell down and choose two of Rohan, Rockliff and Pods. Other than that all good. Medders is value for money. JR won’t take Richo’s mantle but is looking better and better. Rohan should get played but keep an eye out for R1 teams.

        Cheers

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  2. Hey guys I was wondering if you can rate my team. Cheers.

    DEFENSE:
    goddard, enright, hodge, kenelley, hunt, ladson, sheppard
    EMG: P. Davis, A. Smith

    MIDFIELD:
    Ablett, Cooney, Ball, Boak, Trengove, Martin
    EMG: Banner, Bastinac

    RUCK:
    Jolly, Tippett
    EMG: Lobbe, Currie

    FORWARDS:
    Riewoldt, Pavlich, Brown, Franklin, Hawkins, Ziebell, Medhurst
    EMG: Rohan, Rockliff.

    I appreciate any feedback.
    Cheers guys

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    1. Backs – Smith is unlikely to get played, upgrade him to a surer thing. I’d also put Sheppard, who’s had an 11 and a 45 in NAB Cup games, on the bench.
      Mids – no issues with these guys but I would like to see another real gun ($550k+) in here.
      Rucks – all good.
      Forwards – downgrade one of your 4 marquee forwards to cover the midfield upgrade. Hawkins hasn’t done anything to prove he’s turning into a J Brown type player yet – until he does he’s too much of a punt.

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  3. Well, I’m going to throw my team up for a grilling as well.

    Backs:
    Drummons, Enright, Hodge, Gilbee, Harry O’B, Kennelly, B Waters. Emerg: Maguire, Shepherd

    Mids: Swan, Selwood, Cooney, Ziebiell, Martin, Morabitto, Emerg: Barlow, Banner

    Rucks: Pettrie, Hille Emerg: Warnock, Lobbe

    Frwrds: Pavlich, Brent Harvey, Higgins, Franklin, Tippett, Gia, Polak, Emerg: Gumbleton, Pods

    I’m no longer sure about Cooney, and with 63k in the bank, might look to upgrade. Although, I know from previous experience, it’s good to have some $$’s left over for trading.

    All emergencies and 1st year players are to be confirmed as long as they are playing the first round.

    Cheers
    Brad

    PS: Not sure why, but thing Harry O might have a different job this year.

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    1. As good as I’ve seen Brad:
      Backs – disagree with you on Harry O about a new role (who else have they got to do what he currently does?) but agree he’s getting better and better.
      Mids – no prob’s here
      Rucks – I traded Hille for Nic Nat this morning but that’s just a personal thing. I’ve traded Lobbe for Roughead for Skipper over the last few weeks but any of them should be ok.
      Forwards – Pav’s 41 against the Saints concerned me. What has Polak done to convince you he’s going to average more than 43.5? And I was happy to see the disclaimer re R1 teams because I don’t think Gumby is going to make it. Even if he does, he’s too much of a risk IMO.

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  4. guys can you please rate my team?

    DEFENSE
    Goddard, Enright, H.Shaw, Hodge, Gram, Gilbee, Hunt
    EMG: Trangrove, A.Smith

    MIDFIELD
    Dal Santo, Bartel, Ball, Ladson, Trengove, Martin
    EMG: Banner, Bastinac

    RUCK
    Tippett, Natinui
    EMG: Currie, Roughead

    FORWARDS
    Riewoldt, Higgins, Franklin, Coke, Hall, Ziebell, Walker
    EMG: ROckliff, Rohan

    Please provide any advice and feedback
    Cheers guys

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    1. That’s an excellent team, cam. Comments/advice as follows:
      Backs – Are you sure Smith is going to play this year? If so, what do you know that I don’t?
      Mids – Ladson as a midfielder? Think you can do better there. He hasn’t been super fantastic this pre-season.
      Ruck – Light bench – make sure both guys get named for R1 before settling on them.
      Forwards – Soft drinks generally don’t kick a lot of goals 🙂
      Other than that, I think you’ve done a great job. Well done.

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      1. thanks for the comments motts. Im not sure about the emergencies for the backs quite yet, will wait for the round 1 teams. I am playing Ladson as a midfileder so if he makes me money i can upgrade him to a midfielder once he makes me money rather than getting a weak defender. Plus i can shift him, hodge, gilbee, and goddard around if i need to.

        Im not going to bother with rucks, because they dont score that well.

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