Round 17 Review

Written by Thommo on July 16 2018

TAS MANIACS

Whether Tasmania should have its own footy team was a big talking point last week after Bill Shorten offered $25 million for a Tasmanian footy side to join the AFL (if he’s elected!). Jeff Kennett immediately jumped to the defensive which generated more media attention and reminded most of us how much we hate politicians and ex-politicians. Now I don’t want to talk politics here because I don’t like to mix politics with sport, so I thought I should ask you, the hardcore fans, your thoughts on whether you want a Tassie side.

As a Hawks’ member, I am all for it. Tasmania has been good to Hawthorn but the Hawks are financially viable now and don’t need to sell off games. It would be nice to have a reserved seat to 11 matches in Victoria rather than just 7 with 4 replacement games. In addition, if the AFL wants to really be the Australian Football League, they really need to have teams in every state, especially the states that traditionally play AFL. A few pundits have claimed that a Tassie side won’t be financially viable but the Tasmanian state government is already throwing money at AFL teams from other states. Surely they can help in the formative years?

So what are your thoughts?

Do you want a Tasmanian side in the AFL?

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ADELAIDE 16.16 (112) def GEELONG 14.13 (97)

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Patrick Dangerfield (Gee) 158 – Finally Chris Scott has seen the error of his ways and played Dangerfield in the midfield for a high percentage of the match on Thursday night. While the Cats still lost, Dangerfield can’t have done any more for his team, racking up 32 possessions (20 contested), kicking 3 goals, laying 10 tackles and handing out 8 clearances. In case anyone wished to argue that the Cats missed his forward presence, Danger actually produced his largest scoreboard return for the season despite his reduced forward time. If only Chris Scott has listened to we smart Supercoaches sooner!

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Joel Selwood (Gee) 71 – I did a massive double-take when I saw that Joel Selwood did not lay a single tackle to go with his 29 possessions. That hasn’t happened since Round 19 of last season! Add 6 clangers and a 62% DE and Joel’s 29 possessions and 2 goal assists are worth nothing… well, nothing but 71!

WELCOME BACK

Rory Sloane (Ade) 127 – Due to injury it has been a poor season for Sloane but he finally enjoyed a great week, signing a contract extension and playing great football. He was back at the coalface with 27 possessions, 17 contested, 8 clearances, 7 tackles and 1 goal. With Rory fit, the Crows are not completely out of the hunt for September action.

ST KILDA 16.20 (116) def CARLTON 7.10 (52)

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Patrick Cripps (Car) 156  – What a legend! With the exception of his injury/mattress-effected 54 points in Round 11, Cripps has not dropped below 93 SC points for the season and he has scored over 150 points on four occasions. Against the Saints he was doing it all with yet another 23 contested possessions (35 total), 10 clearances, 3 contested marks and 1 goal. If the Blues were smart they would stop stealing GWS rejects and just clone Patrick Cripps (at least three times).

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Matthew Kreuzer (Car) 20 – Kreuz is a fantastic player when he’s fit, acting like yet another midfielder, but I think he has well and truly proven that he is just too injury prone to rely on. This week he lasted less than 1 quarter. Next season he’ll be popular if he’s fit but don’t kid yourself: He will get injured and he will need to be upgraded. It’s just a manner of time!

WELCOME BACK

Jack Billings (StK) 125 – If you need an F6 or an F7, Billings is your man! Priced at just over $400k, he is spending a lot of time around the ball but impacting the scoreboard more than he did as a stay-at-home forward. Funny that! I hate to say, “I told you so,” but, well, you know…

I told you so, Richo!

This week Billings had the biggest scoreboard impact of any player on ground with 2 goals and 4 goal assists to go with a handful of possessions (30 in fact).

BRISBANE 15.8 (98) def HAWTHORN 9.11 (65)

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Tom Mitchell (Haw) 159 – Mitchell was not as impressive as you would think given he had 75 SC points at quarter time. Unfortunately he struggled to get involved in the match after half time as the Lions completely dominated the midfield battle (yes, it hurts to admit how badly the Hawks’ sucked in this match). Still, you can’t criticize a fellow who racks up 43 possessions at 83% DE and 1 goal in a losing side.

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Jack Gunston (Haw) 79 – There were surprisingly few popular premiums who failed in this match so Gunston’s 79 points was the worst I could find. He started the match as a defender and let himself down with some poor disposal efficiency rebound from his defensive 50 but things picked up in the second quarter when he was moved forward. He looked far better as a  forward, kicking 2 goals and giving another away but his new owners won’t be overly impressed.

WELCOME BACK

Brisbane – Even though my Hawks lost and played poorly, fumbling the ball like it was coated in butter, I liked the way the Lions played. They placed heaps of pressure on the Hawks’ ball carriers when moving the ball forward and made scoring very difficult even with Harris Andrews and Luke Hodge missing. Craig Hutcheson has made comments that Chris Fagan has no strategic knowledge but obviously he and I are watching a different Lions’ team. As long as they retain their players and continue building, Brisbane is finally on the rise!

MELBOURNE 18.11 (119) def WESTERN BULLDOGS 10.9 (69)

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Clayton Oliver (Mel) 136 – Once again Clarrie started a little slowly and came home with a wet sail. He overhauled Macrae late in the match, boosting his Supercoach output nicely with 1 goal and 3 goal assists on top of his 34 possessions. It will be interesting to see if he can continue these high SC scores next week against a tougher opponent as the Dees face Geelong at Kardinia Park.

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Christian Petracca (Mel) 53 or Michael Hibberd (Mel) 56 – I think it is late enough in the season that we can safely call these two Supercoach failures what they really are: Bad news! They might pump out the odd good score but surely they shouldn’t be in your best 22. Not if you want to win your league anyway. Go back to the farm, potatoes!

WELCOME BACK

Jack Macrae (WB) 131 – Most players require a week or two to get going after missing time with injury, but not Macrae. To quote BT (because he’s a massive tool), “Hunter just went bang! What, who is he? Right, sorry: JackSON Macrae just went bang!”

Like Tom Mitchell, he started with a huge first half but slowed as the Dees got on top in the second half but still amassed 33 possessions, 8 clearances and 8 tackles. Unfortunately he might not drop in price as much as we all hoped!

ESSENDON 13.17 (95) def GOLD COAST 6.15 (91)

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Dyson Heppell (Ess) 129 – Heppell is just so meh I can’t get excited by his good games. He’ll have the odd great match but he’ll also throw in the odd shocker and for the entire season he’ll average around 100ppg. Good enough to be considered a gun, not good enough to be considered elite. In other words, if he’s in your draft league you enjoyed his 37 disposals on Saturday night, if you own him in Classic you are doing it wrong.

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Brendan Goddard (Ess) 47 – Goddard didn’t really seem to get into the match with just 17 possessions at only 61% DE despite not having a single contested possession. I think we can safely call time on him as a fantasy relevant player. It was nice while it lasted!

WELCOME BACK

Michael Hurley (Ess) 120 – He started the season with 5 tonnes in the first 6 rounds and hasn’t scored over 100 points since, so this was a welcome return to form for Hurley. He collected 24 possessions at 83% DE and 10 marks (2 contested). So does that make it time for us to trade him back in or was this a flash in the pan?

GWS 11.13 (79) def RICHMOND 10.17 (77)

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Dawson Simpson (GWS) 122 – In a rare score feat, Simpson had 7 contested possessions but only 4 disposals! I’m guessing his 16 hit-outs to advantage helped his score a lot (36 total)! For the hundredth time this season, here is an prime example of why Perfect 9 is practically impossible to win!

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Rory Lobb (GWS) 36 – Unfortunately for anyone who decided Lobb would score well as #1 ruckman at the Giants, he is not currently the #1 ruckman! With the absence of Cameron and Patton, he is spending a lot of time forward so he’ll have a couple of decent matches when he kicks a bag, but he’ll also have these matches where he barely wins a possession. In case you hadn’t worked it out for yourselves, avoid him!

WELCOME BACK

Dustin Martin (Ric) 110 – Finally Dusty cracked the tonne, his first since Round 10 and his highest score since Round 4. He has started to win a decent possession count (29 this week) and is looking a bit more interested in the midfield but he’s still making a lot of stupid errors. Considering he committed 7 clangers this week, it is amazing he scored 110 points. Hopefully he remembers to kick to the blokes in the black and yellow tops by the time September rolls around!

WEST COAST 15.12 (102) def COLLINGWOOD 9.13 (67)

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Jack Redden (WC) 154 – I had one of those decisions to make last week. You know the ones: Where you need to choose between multiple premiums and you have unlimited funds. So you decide on the proven premium who is in good form, has a good role and is playing for a form side ahead of the slightly unique premium option. And you choose wrong! My error was choosing Pendlebury ahead of Redden and Shuey.

Against the Pies Redden was everywhere, racking up 30 touches, 7 tackles, 5 clearances and 1 goal and looks to have discovered consistency. Let’s not discuss Pendles’ game!

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Steele Sidebottom (Col) 48 –
But while Pendles was poor, at least I don’t own Sidey who was held to 18 mostly uncontested possessions by Hutchings and was particularly poor. If tagging Sidebottom means the Pies lose, he could soon find himself running with a friend every week! Next time you are tagged, Steele, perhaps lay more than 2 tackles for the match!

WELCOME BACK

Luke Shuey (WC) 129 – Initially I was going to say, “Welcome back!” to Bucks’ beard because surely he needs to regrow it after the Pies suffered their first loss in 8 rounds, and then I considered mentioning Kennedy who kicked 3 goals and scored 90 SC points, but in the end Shuey got the nod for his 30 possessions and 6 tackles. He is still cheap at $439.6k and now has a 3 round average of 116 SC points! The smart coaches have already jumped on Shuey as their M9: Kudos to those coaches!

SYDNEY 16.8 (104) def NORTH MELBOURNE 15.8 (98)

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Jack Ziebell (Nor) 124 – Another perfect 9 special, Ziebell played the ultimate captain’s match and deserved to snag a victory for the Roos after kicking 5 goals and taking 4 contested marks. Ziebell has never been consistent enough to be a premium but he is certainly damaging as a forward.

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Josh P Kennedy (Syd) 27 – In a high scoring week, losing Kennedy (and later Gray) hurt a few coaches who were on track for a monster score. In addition, his owners will be praying JPK has only a short term injury as those trades are starting to dry up and most of us have left ourselves a little short in the trade department (he says while clutching his final 4 trades tightly to his chest!).

WELCOME BACK

Majak Daw (Nor) 107 – Playing mostly in defence in 2018, Majak has barely troubled the SC scorers with a high of 86 points. This week he was swung in to attack where he played one of his  best ever games, kicking 4 goals and giving another away. However, not only did his late miss from relatively straight in front prevent a Supercoach BOG, it also meant he was the second most important player from Sudan on the field (in case you missed it, Aliir Aliir snuck forward to kick the sealer for Sydney).

FREMANTLE 8.11 (59) def PORT ADELAIDE 7.8 (50)

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Luke Ryan (Fre) 140 – Ryan continued his up and down season with a huge score from 28 possessions at 85% DE and 7 marks (2 contested). He kind of owed his owners a little something special after scores of 53 and 68 in the last two weeks and certainly pushed a few coaches into the upper echelons of scoring.

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Michael Walters (Fre) 64 – Injuries to Ryder (49) and Robbie Gray (37) hurt many Supercoaches but, as much as we hate them, we know injuries happen. Walters on the other hand has no excuses. With Fyfe out many of us expected some big scores from Walters but he has only scored 1 tonne in three weeks and this week managed just 14 possessions and 1 goal in conditions made for his particular skill set.

WELCOME BACK

Sean Darcy (Fre) 86 – With Ryder going down with injury, Darcy’s score was probably inflated but the kid is big and talented enough that he will surely be the #1 ruckman at the Dockers soon. When he takes the mantle he is going to offer great value for those of us too cheap to start with the tried and true Gawn-Grundy combo in 2019. On Sunday, in tough conditions for the larger gents, Darcy managed to grab 15 possessions, 5 clearances and 5 marks (1 contested) to go with 33 hit-outs. When Sandi retires…

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28 thoughts on “Round 17 Review”

  1. Great write up Thommo, definitely need a team from Tassie, not a true national league until they have one.Greatest ever full forward came from Tassie.!

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    1. Thanks Joestar. If Gill wants to make his mark he’ll cancel the failed Gold Coast experiment and brimg in Tassie.

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  2. Gr8 stuff Tbommo,

    Fagan/Hodge 2
    Clarko/Hawks 0

    #enoughisenough
    #couldcostusfinals
    #giveroughyonemoreyear
    #obienandlewisnotqiteready

    Cheers Catta

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    1. I agree with Rough, he’s not really a key forward, more a medium trapped in the body of a tall. He needs help, not criticism.

      Not a fan of O’Brien. When does he get ready? 4 or 5 years in and he still goes missing for entire games. Time to trade him.

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  3. “second most important player from Sudan”
    Daw to himself: ‘Hmmm, How could I ever come 2nd’

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    1. Hey Bearded One,

      How awesome was watching ( if you did ) the Alih Alih v Majak Faw tussle yesterday, the mutual respect they showed each other was so admirable for on the footy field!

      Similar to the Clan v Burblers epic tussles over the last 5 years or so, but on a much lower scale of course 😉

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    1. I guess it will come down to team culture. Tassie is not far from Vic for all of those youngsters who don’t want to live far from home.

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  4. I live up on the Gold Coast. Junior (and women’s) footy is very popular. There are about 100 auskickers at the Burleigh Bombers every Friday. Reckon the AFL has to persist with the Suns until the homegrown talent starts to filter through.

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    1. I would rather they funnel the local footballers through the Lions rather than spread them across 2 sides but I like your point.

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    1. Hobart is actually not much colder than Melbourne at this time of year. And it’s much sunnier.

      Launceston, on the other hand, is absolutely freezing in winter. Then again, so is Canberra, and the Giants still tough it out and play a few games there each year.

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  5. Great write-up Thommo.
    Wot no WELCOME BACK David Mundy? Would have traded him out two weeks ago if I’d had any trades left 😉

    Went to Launnie once and witnessed Buddy kicking 13 against North. Not a hawks fan, but it was a great weekend regardless. Footy belongs in Tassie. Make it happen AFL.

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      1. Yep, and/or Preuss, depending on:
        i. what happens to Goldy. I know he’s only 30 but … well he looked tired for a while there, or
        ii. maybe GWS will make a move for him?! He’s gotta be sick of playing in the magoos. Innit.

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        1. I think Geelong will make a play for both of them. Sean Darcy is a local and will have less trade value with limited games under his belt. Pruess is just really unlucky and i think Goldie will go around for a few more years, has looked a lot better this year, especially with North building well.

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  6. Speaking as someone who grew up in Tasmania, of course I think we should have a team. The problem is that every Tasmanian already has a team of their own, and most probably wouldn’t be willing to abandon them. Some would, but I’d wager most wouldn’t. I, for example, could never stop being a Carlton supporter, no matter what happened.

    There is also the issue of the North/South rivalry in the state, which is similar to that between Sydney and Melbourne. Now, having grown up in Launceston I am quite happy for Hobart to get stuffed, but in all seriousness, politically I don’t think it would be viable to have the team based in just one of the two cities. So, they would probably have to split their home games between York Park (UTAS Stadium) and Bellerive Oval (Blundstone Arena). Launcestonians like me would of course argue that even if they have to play a few games in Hobart, they really ought to play most of their home games at the former, as it’s dimensionally similar to the MCG, and so would prepare the team well for premiership glory. But, to the extent that the decision makers will be Tasmanian at all, they will almost certainly be based in Hobart, so a 50/50 split is probably the best we can hope for.

    Although I suppose if the AFL found a ton of cash down the back of the couch, we could always take the SA/WA route and have two teams 😉

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  7. The thing with Tassie, and no disrespect meant, but is it a destination that players would want to go ? Cold as, and even GCS seems not to keep players. What do players do in their down time….not exactly a sesspot of nightlife or other things to do. I reckon anyone drafted to a Tassie side would be outta there as quick as they could. If I’m right, that is why there will never be an AFL side there….VFL…for sure.

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    1. I might add to the review…how is it that its so obvious to SC coaches that the likes of Danger and Billings should be in the mid with rests up forward, but AFL coaches on squillions, take all year to work it out ??

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    2. It’s a fair question, but I’m not sure too many would want to be drafted to somewhere like Geelong, either. Granted, you can jump on a train and be in the centre of Melbourne within an hour or so, but still.

      I suppose it depends to a large extent on their personality. Not everybody likes large cities. Others like some cities but not others – the Gold Coast, for example, does not strike me as somewhere that I would ever voluntarily go, good weather notwithstanding.

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