Scoring Anomalies – Rd7

Written by Schwarzwalder on May 9 2017

One of SCTs new write-ups for the 2017 season……..Scoring Anomalies.  Or otherwise known as ‘how many pts for an effective kick again?’ Champion Data has created one of the most complex scoring systems known to man.  It is known to be frustrating as hell and create a state of sheer disbelief when checking the SC scores after each game.  Hopefully these Reviews will help change that perception as we seek to find answers to the CD scoring system.  So who benefitted from our pts system last weekend?  Who was negatively impacted?  Here are a few mysteries to solve……….

NEGATIVE

Brad & Matt Crouch (ADE) – Between them they had 62 touches but shared in just 151 SC pts.  Eleven clangers with both running at low 60s Disposal Efficiency absolutely killed off their chances of a monster score.  Matt also had an ordinary kick:handball ratio which doesn’t always bode well for Supercoach (12:26).

 

Scott Pendlebury (COL) – Not often that we see Dependlebury in these neck of the woods.  Especially after 29 touches & nine tackles.  Yet 21 of his disposals were handballs, he committed four clangers and ran at 69%DE for his 91 pts.  He is still a top midfielder for the season but he has been more ‘up and down’ than usual.

 

Stefan Martin (BRL) – When I saw that Stef had 21 touches & 40 hitouts against the Swans, I was expecting a 140 game.  After five minutes of uncontrollable cursing, I realized that Stef only hit a target 57% of the time and also produced five clangers.  No other choice but to accept the 93.

 

Michael Hibberd (MEL) – He was an upgrade target for many Coaches after an impressive start with Melbourne.  Hibberd got hit hard by Champion Data against Hawthorn however, registering just the 56 pts.  Seems really harsh considering he had 27 touches at 66%DE.  He seems to have been heavily penalized for his uncontested disposals (23 in total) and five clangers.  Grant Birchall had a similar problem over the last few years (although he’s barely relevant now).  Could prove a thorn in Hibberd’s side if it continues………

 

POSITIVE

Phil Davis (GWS) – Not SC-relevant at all but a perfect example of Champion Data rewarding clean, contested possessions.  Two kicks & ten handballs, eight of those were contested, and each disposal hit the target (100% Disposal Efficiency) for 76 pts.  Davis didn’t necessarily have a huge impact on the game but was effective when involved.

 

Marcus Bontempelli (WBD) – How could we forget the Champion Data Golden Boy?  While I thought he was one of the best on ground, I was still a little surprised that he ended up on 128.  Not so much from the 27 touches (14 contested), nine tackles, six clearances and a goal.  It just feels like he wasn’t really penalized for the five clangers that are next to his name.  At this rate, he won’t drop too far below $600k this season.

 

 

 

Which ‘anomalies’  annoyed you over the weekend?  Any ghosts in the system?  Something we should pry a bit further?  Tell our Coaches about it in the comments below……..

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13 thoughts on “Scoring Anomalies – Rd7”

  1. Hibberd was killing me especially in the last part of the game as he was getting possessions but the score wouldn’t change just stayed around the 55 mark.

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  2. Brodie Grundy’s numbers made for pleasant reading at first glance – 17 touches and 30 hitouts. The pleasantries ended upon finding out he got a mere 58 (41% efficiency, 7 clangers, 2 frees against and for that score, i’m guessing very few hitouts to advantage)

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    1. Also – does anyone have a link where I could find a record of hitouts to advantage? Was about to mention Sandi’s score (77 off 9 touches and 51 hitouts) but i’d rather just check the hitouts to advantage stats first!

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      1. This one is only held by Champion Data I’m afraid. You could always ask Fantasy Freako on twitter, may get a response.

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      2. Hit-outs to advantage are the bane of my existence as you can’t find the damn things anywhere except the Freako’s twitter.

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      3. Check the Herald Sun paper edition on Sundays and Mondays. At the bottom of the stat tables are the hitouts to advantage. If someone has access to them they could post the hitouts to advantage for each game of each round thus being able to work out their HTA rate.

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  3. Balic was the one that interested me, he was on 34 pts and in the last he got a free making the play and kicked a goal, then another free going for a mark, kicked it to his team mate and finished with 41 pts. I was expecting 45 to 50 pts. Can anyone tell me how many points for a free when you are making the play. If you get your arms chopped trying to take a mark and get a free are the points the same as taking the mark. Should be if not.

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    1. Yes I noticed this as well – although didn’t affect me as Balic was my emergency but I was surprised he only ended up on 41 after a contested marked and kicking a goal in the 4th quarter, albeit when the game was decided. Perhaps given the fact that he was awarded a free instead of a contested mark changes the scoring but 41 still seemed a bit low.

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  4. My thoughts on Scoring.

    Watching L. Neale closely on sunday.( he was my Captain)

    I noticed his score jumped noticeably when he got the clearance, then also delivered the ball for a goal.

    As for The Bont.

    All his clearances tend to end in goals.

    I think The Bonts 6 clangers are evened out by his 6 clearances ending in scores.

    Eg Contested ball get resulting in Goal = 4 points.( Clanger -4 )

    Just trying to guess what really goes on.

    But it seems to make sense.

    Anyone with a better theory ?

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    1. Champion Data at their end-of-year Xmas party get a random group of midfield headshots, arrange them in a circular pattern on a table and play ‘spin the bottle’ to pick a player for the next AFL season who will get the rage-inducing scoring favourtism by them, as well as spinning for a player who will have heavily penalised scores. The Bont got the favourtism spin this year while Treloar got the ‘bad’ spin. In their inebriated state the ChampionData nerds all rolled around laughing, joking and trying to predict how many frustrated forum posts there will be about confusing supercoach scores.

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  5. I honestly just think they can’t do their job anymore at champion data. These are all valid. I’ve see players (mainly rance) get done holding the ball and lose no points but get a bunch of points for a spoil. Yet a player like butler who smothered a kick from the kick out which went through for a behind wasn’t rewarded with any points. Even little soccer’s off the ground to team mates advantage aren’t being counted as a kick. So much to rant about, but this year I’ve noticed these ‘errors’ at least triple to previous years. I think it just depends on who is doing the stat’s on any given night. Be interesting to see if a common person pops up for these anomalies

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    1. Some great points raised here as well – would be nice to know if it is just the one person doing the scoring or if they have back up scorers to correct any points which have gone unrewarded etc. But given the non-existent feedback so far from CD to queries raised in the first couple of weeks of the season when scoring was even more topsy-turvy, wouldn’t hold my breath.

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