Scoring Anomalies – Round 9

Written by The Salamander on May 23 2019

Dane raised a few scoring-related queries in his excellent Round Review earlier this week, so I thought I’d start by taking a look at those (I love it when other people make my job easy!).

First, Bachar Houli102 from 35 disposals (85.7 percent DE, 2 contested, 338 metres gained), 3 intercepts, 3 score involvements, and a tackle, and Brandon Ellis (107), also from 35 disposals at exactly 85.7 percent (10 contested, 459 metres gained), 5 clearances, 8 score involvements, and 5 intercepts. It was probably the lack of tackles that held them back, although I do think both scores are a tad low – Ellis in particular.

In the comments of Dane’s Round Review, Harry asked how Jake Lloyd ended up on 141 from fairly similar stats (28 disposals at 82 percent DE, 5 contested, 692 metres gained), 4 score involvements, 1 goal, and 4 tackles. With the usual caveats about comparing scores from different games, I think a lot of the difference comes down to metres gained – nearly 700 vs 459 and 338. Of course, the easiest way to explain any of Jake Lloyd’s scores is that he is The Chosen One™. Speaking of which, The Phantom Menace turned 20 a few days ago. I’m not sure if I should wish it happy birthday, or grumble about how old I suddenly feel.

The other Jake Lloyd
Maybe it’s favouritism, maybe it’s the Midi-cholrians.

Dane also felt that Jack Crisp had been slightly short-changed: 93 points from 27 disposals (13 contested, 82 percent DE, 314 metres gained), 4 tackles, 4 marks (1 contested, 1 intercept), 2 clearances, 6 score involvements, and a very impressive 10 intercepts. To be honest, based on the intercepts alone, I think he deserves more than 93. And I’m not just saying that because he’s in my team!

The last player Dane wanted to know about was Phil Davis: 82 from 21 disposals (5 contested, 91 percent DE, 274 metres gained),8 score involvements, 13 marks (8 intercepts, 1 contested), 14 intercepts, The 14 intercepts is particularly impressive given that it’s more times than Carlton actually had the ball! In all seriousness though, Davis had a great game, at least from a statistical standpoint. 5 clangers and just the 1 tackle might have held his score back a little bit, but overall, I’m inclined to agree with Dane once again: probably a tad low. Perhaps he was a victim of there only being 3300 points to go around?

Moving on, Davis’ teammate Matt De Boer held Cripps to just 66 in that game. He had an okay score himself – 90 from 27 disposals (9 contested, 59 percent DE, 354 metres gained), 5 clearances, 10 score involvements, and 6 tackles, but it makes me wonder if players like him are systematically short-changed by the fact that the scoring system focusses on direct, on-ball production, and doesn’t take into account what they may stop other players from doing. It’s more of a system anomaly than a traditional scoring one, but I thought I’d bring it up.

Finally, Darcy Fort (105 points). I’m not questioning how he got his score – I’m just bringing him up because he’s yet another rookie who showed absolutely nothing in the JLT, and has ended up being great during the season-proper. I’ve brought this up before, and I know it’s silly given our lack of alternatives, but do we put too much stock in rookies’ JLT scores?


Did any scores seem off to you on the weekend? Let us know in the comments below.


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9 thoughts on “Scoring Anomalies – Round 9”

  1. Worth drawing the distinction between kicks and handballs. Lloyd had that many meters gained because he kicks it so much – 21 kicks versus Houlis 14, despite Houli having more disposals.

    From memory effective kicks are worth 4 points compared to 1.5 for a handball – that really adds up!


  2. Watching the North vs Sydney match Lllloyyd didn’t really stand out to me. Was super surprised to see how big he scored.


    1. He never seems to stand out , but his stats are usually up there and his DE is also usually good. Don’t have but coming in this week.


  3. Thanks for the follow up mate! I guess meters gained outweighs intercept and contested possessions… From memory Crisp even got scaled up to his 93 probably due to him winning a lot of important 1 on 1s. Just adds further confusion


    1. Yeah…. apart from the handful of values they give us (+4 for an effective kick, for example), the SC scoring system can be a bit of a black-box sometimes.

      What I do know is that my own SalamanderCoach system, which I use for the AFLW Fantasy competition, weights all all three of those things very heavily.



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