SuperCoach Advice – Part 2

Written by Motts on March 16 2011

So you want to win it all? Come first on the site, snaffle the fiddy large, bathe in the envy and admiration of your peers? Here’s how you do it:

Choose a strategy and stick to it

The 2 most talked about strategies this year are Guns & Rookies and Midpricers. G&R refers to loading up your team with the maximum amount of premiums (somewhere in the vicinity of 14) and filling the remaining positions with rookies who will increase in value more than most other players. The Midpricer strategy refers to picking up a lot of the players who are valued cheaply this year (eg Ottens, Harris, Veszpremi, Foley, Anthony, Knights, and Gamble). Go with one or the other but don’t mix and match. Winning the lot is about taking risks that pay off. Fence sitting isn’t taking a risk.

Look at the schedule

Determine what will happen to your team on the weeks that multiple clubs have byes (Rounds 4, 5, 6, 16 and 19). If you’re going to lose a ton of firepower, then its prudent to select players from other teams.

Plan your trades

You can’t foresee injuries but you need to have a plan. Look at the first clubs to have both their byes out of the way – Gold Coast (R9), Collingwood (R13), St Kilda (R14) and West Coast (R15). Plan to bring premiums from those clubs into your team at that time. Also look at clubs that wait the longest before having a bye – Port (R12), Richmond (R11). Players from those clubs won’t be missing any games right up until that week so will likely improve in price more than others from other clubs – give more consideration to rookies from those teams. Of course, make sure they’re going to get played first though.

Do not pick any more than 3 or 4 players from the one club

It’ll be too hard to cover their loss when their club has a bye.

Do not have any more than 1 premium from a particular club in the 1 position.

See SuperCoach Advice – Part 1.

Do not have any more than 2 premiums from the 1 club.

See SuperCoach Advice – Part 1.

Make sure you have a lot of Dual Position Players (DPP’s)

See SuperCoach Advice – Part 1.

 


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42 thoughts on “SuperCoach Advice – Part 2”

  1. I don’t believe in the strategy in not picking premiums from Geelong or Carlton as I see Selwood and Judd racking up the most points in the midfield behind Swan and should therefore be included.

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  2. Is my midfield going to cause too many problems then? Currently sitting on Swan, Judd, Selwood, Kennedy, Swallow D, Harris. I just see Swan, Judd and Selwood being the top 3 midfielders at the end of the season so can’t bring myself to leave them out at this stage.

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  3. We need Catblitz to write up some analysis on this. Basically need to compare the total points gained by having Swan, Judd, Selwood verses the other strategy to see what is more likely to come out on top. Need to account for the fact that Swam would probably be captain most weeks and who the captain would be for the alternative strategy.

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  4. Motts and fellow SCT contributors, I have been thinking about this for a while now and would like to put forward a topic for debate if I may…

    Topic: For coaches going for a league win (in particular) but overall win as well I think the contribution of DPP’s in ones team to be slightly overrated especially in the first half of the season, I think they are extremely valuable as upgrade options as the season rolls on but early on not so important.
    DISCUSS

    My reasons being that it is all well and good to be able to swap players around but lets face it for the majority when say Goddard goes for his bye on round 4 not matter where you put him DEF or MID he is still going to be missing and at best you have a slightly better rookie in your midfield to cover him say maybe a Conca over a Duigan. We have a league bye that week anyway so what’s the point
    Obviously I have chosen an extreme example but regardless if they are a premium if they are missing they are difficult to replace. I would say that majority of coaches from this site would hopefully have sufficient bench coverage in the first half the season regardless of where their premiums are.
    As the season rolls and stronger squads are formed I think they are good trade up targets as the options on benches are hopefully putting points on the board worthy of a spot in the 22 but early in the season not so important.
    For the record I will have at least in each of my lines for the start of the season, some of those ie Goddard, Krakouer etc are in because they would even if they weren’t DPP but I will be eyeing some DPP’s off as the season continues to upgrade some rookies to.

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  5. I agree it is almost impossible to cover a premium on a bye.
    But I do think it is useful having one or two just in case your bench players don’t get a game

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  6. Strong arguments Stevo. My thoughts are that DPP’s are especially important for the Rookies if possible. Obviously job security is prime, but having DPP rookies (where you believe they will get game time) allows them to be subbed to other areas if they miss a game, hence hopefully allowing you to maintain a full team and bench coverage.

    guns are going to be difficult to cover but when they have the bye, if you’ve got two rookies in the midfield bench playing and none in the defense (hopefully not but it does happen) then the ability to move will sub between positions will pay off.

    Hope it makes sense.

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  7. This is my thinking, I got caight a few times last year with 2-3 def bench players named while copping a zero elsewhere. I’d say that DPP is more important in the beginning while you’re relying on rookies to get a game. In the second half of this season upgrading to prems who have had their byes already will lessen the need for DPP.

    Also, injuries will screw with your side all year long, DPP helps in not forcing your hand.

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  8. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Another site’s cheat sheet has just taken all the information from SuperCoach Advice Parts 1 & 2 and condensed it.

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  9. Motts, for an overall win, your comment about not selecting premiums from Carlton, Geelong, North and Essendon is void, isn’t it?

    Just a minor thing… Good article! 😉

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  10. Well done Motts, good write up. I personally don’t subscribe to the theory of no premiums from teams that have byes in the finals, but will limit number from each club…. Also, can I check on the theory of not having players from teams during the multi-club bye as I understand they are the same weeks we have SC byes, so I would steer clear of clubs that have standalone byes…. That right?

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  11. Hmmm, I thought your scores in the finals contributed towards your final total? Happy to be corrected if I’m wrong.

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  12. If you’re trying to win your league then clubs that have byes that coincide with the weeks you don’t compete with other teams in your league are more attractive – Melbourne, Sydney, Freo & Brisbane. Because you’ll lose them but it won’t matter because you’re not competing with anyone.

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  13. Yes, but it’s the equivalent of saying don’t choose anybody from a team that has a bye. It may cause a few headaches if you’re in the SC finals, but I don’t think it’s relevant if you’re going for the big $$$’s.

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  14. There is actually value in picking premiums from Car/Geelong initially and then uggrading them once premiums from other clubs have had both their byes eg: Judd>Swan after Rd 13. You then get an extra scoring game in from that combo effectively only having the one bye. I have budgeted 3 sideways trades for this purpose.

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  15. Is it too much of a risk to have Selwood and Bartel?
    I currently have both and everytime I change one out, within a day, they’re back in my team….

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  16. I’ve modified the article now to take the offending point out.

    Deano, I see your point too. My thinking was on saving trades. As well all know trades = gold. You only get 24 for the year. You could be lucky, but then again….

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  17. “snaffle the car”, think you’ve got the wrong comp prize, Motts, that’s the other guy’s major prize.

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  18. the team to avoid. i call it the whipping boys.

    o’hailpin, tom williams, ralph clarke, jake king, dawson, tom murphy, nick stevens(vc)
    x clarke, nicoski, mcphee

    oakley-nichols(c), tambling, stanton, henry slattery, shane tuck, brock mclean
    bateman, hislop, masten

    minson, renoulf,
    mark blake, wood

    hawkins, mark williams, schulz, kosi, milne, fevola, neon leon
    jay neagle, brad miller, michael newton

    i know nick stevens isn’t around anymore but i can’t help myself.

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  19. ha ha …. awesome team!!!

    i would like to add Daniel Wells to the list … very much North’s whipping boy when things turn array

    and how on earth is David Hale not captain!!

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  20. I would assume as the first lock out occurs as that is when they would finalise all the leagues that aren’t full so I would imagine it would be a big automated click of a button that fills all unfilled leagues and generates the draw for those leagues.

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  21. Thought you’d appreciate Billy’s upgrade. Probably a couple of forwards ahead of him though?

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  22. We’ve got a ton of forwards but not many monsters. Garlett, Betts, Walker, and Yarran are all quick but not one-out type players. Waite, Henderson, and O’Hailpin (at a pinch) are the ones that stand between Levi C and a regular spot.

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  23. hale doesn’t make the team, when you got minson, renoulf,
    mark blake and cameron wood. even josh fraser is ahead of hale.

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  24. I guess with the Midrange strategy you try and trade up to these guys as the season goes one when guys like Harris, Swallow etc increase in value

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