Trade Or Hold – Rd4

Written by Schwarzwalder on April 13 2018

This one caught us by surprise……….Josh Kelly needs a week off (maybe two, according to Coach, Leon Cameron) and many SuperCoaches have missed a few heartbeats over the last 18 hours.  Given how competitive Supercoach is, there aren’t too many Coaches that want to see one of their midfield elites missing for a week or two.

Kelly has been solid without being spectacular over the opening three Rounds.  Has he been impeded by the return of Coniglio?  Or hampered by these groin niggles?  Whatever the problem, he’s not out there this weekend.  Are you thinking of hitting the Big ‘T’ button?

 

What to do with Josh Kelly (GWS)?

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  1. If he was looking to be out for 3 or more weeks then i would be looking at trading him, but since it is less it should be fine to hold him. If you were going for overall then you might have to trade him to keep up with the pack.
    If you have not used any trades then trading him wont be much of an issue but after a few corrections another trade could cause problems and you might be running low by the end of the season which can cause nightmares for your team.

    So i would 100% trade if:
    Out for 3+ weeks

    Probably trade:
    going for Overall or have 29-30 trades left

    Won’t trade:
    have <28 trades and am going for leagues

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  2. I literally just threw this question into the coaches box….”up to two weeks” is that coach speak for a month?

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  3. It’s definitely worth looking up Josh kelly’s heat maps before deciding. Every single game this year he has spent an unusual amount of time on a wing, and his only numbers that have changed are his contested numbers – CP down from 11.5 to 6 per game, clearances down from 4.8 to 1.33.
    8 tackles per game indicates the work rate is still there, but he is not following the ball over to the other wing and not attending the centre bounces he did last year. I would say there is a role change that is very unfriendly for supercoach. Even round one where he had 29 touches – only 5 were contested

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    1. Surely last year was not a fluke. If you believe that, then Kelly is a S.T.A.R.

      With that in-mind, maybe he’s had the groin niggle for a couple weeks already and they have been placing him on the wing to let him work through it? Now, they’ve decided to rest him until he’s back to 100%… 2 or 3 weeks. I can deal with that.

      When he comes back at full fitness, doesn’t that mean he pushes back into the pack reducing Coniglio’s influence?

      (That’s what I’m hoping for anyway.)

      In the meantime, it changes how I use my trades. Bring in Richards as an onfield Defender and slide Finlayson to an on-field Mid, while Kelly rests… sounds like a plan for the next 2-3 weeks. Never great when a Premo takes a leave, but as a cash generation and points strategy it’s gonna have to work for the time being.

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      1. I definitely think he’s a star, but I also think his work on the inside last year was out of necessity, and it’s obvious that coniglio is built for the inside game. Hopefully it’s just the niggle, but he just hasn’t bothered with the contested footy and following the ball for stoppages.

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  4. I’d say trade as he is spending far more time on the wing this year following Scully’s downfall and rise of Coniglio and even Taranto and Hopper. However, only if you have 28 or more trades…

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  5. Going for overall, 28 trades left. If he had been averaging 118 and was going to miss one maybe two, I think I would hold. With him averaging 105, I’m not sure I want to take the risk of one turning into two turning into three, then maybe a long term niggle. Add a role change, cause or effect we don’t know, but there it seems. I’m mostly thinking about the “who to bring in for him” side, not the “if” side.

    Leaning towards Macrae

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    1. Agreed Father,

      Although I’m torn between Macrae & Oliver

      Oliver in his 3 games although has 9 less disposals than Macrae has 12 more contested possessions & 6 more clearances!

      But Macrae has 7 more inside 50’s!

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  6. In the spirit of Trade of Hold what do people think of Kreuzer to Naitanui? If we think that their scoring is going to be similar for the remainder of the year, the extra $130k is handy!

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  7. Absolutely looked a different player this season with Cogs back in the mix again!

    Out for possibly 2 weeks, comes back with a be of 159 & potentially valued at mid $500,000’s by r7. His main strength is his ball skills / athletic capabilities, if you have a niggling groin this could seriously hamper him being the elite ball winner we all witnessed in 2017

    Still on the fence, but seriously considering straight swapping him with Macrae or Oliver tbh

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    1. First 3 games this season, 2 wins v Pies & Dogs & a loss to the Swans in r3

      Cogs … 86 possessions ( 35 contested ), 17 clearances, 19 inside 50’s & kicked 6 goals

      Shiel … 77 possessions ( 29 contested ), 16 clearances, 13 inside 50’s & kicked 1 goal

      Kelly … 70 possessions ( 18 contested ), 4 clearances, 14 inside 50’s & kicked 3 goals

      Things that make you go, Mmmmmmm!!

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  8. I’ll trade him to Titchell – an easy way to get him in. I always worry when I hear groin injuries (no pun intended). I always think they have Osteitis pubis and then may struggle for the rest of the year. Probably overreacting, but not prepared to risk it. Plus I think it’ll be at least 2 weeks until he’s back and because I’m only going for league victory early wins are gold. Hopefully can pick him up again later if he’s cheap and in form

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  9. Thinking of a trade for b.gibbs as POD. Bank cash for future trades and think Gibbs form holds with m.crouch out in s top 3 team.

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    1. Given injury concerns at Adelaide, with Sloane likely out for a while the potential for Gibbs to be heavily tagged means I would look elsewhere.

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  10. Great comments all. Really food for thoughts regarding Kelly. I think he is out for mine on all this info.

    Kelly to Dusty for me.

    Cheers

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    1. I’m thinking a move to Dusty too.

      Much as I hate to shuffle a premo on, if he doesn’t play next week he’s toast.

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  11. Thought the last days about Kelly, as said before 1 to 2 weeks turns into 3 or more with a groin, traded to Cogs and pocket 100k for my next upgrade, better average by 19 points a game at the moment and on the park still

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