Trade Talk R12

Written by Schwarzwalder on June 4 2017

The worst of the Bye Rounds is now behind us. Looking forward to Rd12, are there any changes to be made to your line-up?

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      1. None under that price will be top scoring miss, so it’s probably worth waiting a week and getting someone who is $550k+.

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  1. After that performance I don’t see Luke Ryan surviving. FURL will probably drop him like a hot stone.

    Looks like Scharenberg is the only decent rookie downgrade option in defense, correct?

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    1. Otten B/E 26

      I was going to trade in Roberton too but I might go one more week. If Otten can make another $20K, I don’t think Roberton’s price will change much (B/E 107)

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      1. Otten’s BE is 65

        $417/point seems to be the factor this round. If he scores 100 he’ll go up $14.5k

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        1. It was Otten or mcgrath as I need to prepare for round 13 and make sure I have a full team. So I thought Otten was the better choice as with Jenkins he has done nothing most games

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  2. Out: Myers, Otten and WHE
    In: Cousins, Hibberd and Wallis

    A little early with Myers but i need the cash.

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  3. Hefty price for Roberton at 532k. Is he the real deal? Can he sustain a 105 ave?

    Cousins looks like the downgrade option for this week.

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  4. Trades are very subject to change atm.

    Sandilands for Macrae (via Nank DPP)
    Taranto for Cousins (via Greenwood DPP)
    Stewart for Robertson

    Unsure atm of Macrae and Robertson, as they’ll be my last upgrades in their lines, so I’m unsure if there’s better options there.

    I feel it’s time to move Sandi on, as I think he’s due for his yearly holiday very soon.

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  5. Want to get Rocky in my team somehow with that low BE.

    TU: Fyfe and Myers/Fisher to Rocky and Cousins
    TD: Otten, Myers, Fisher to Rocky Cousins and Ryan

    Comment: Dont do either

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  6. TU – Trade out Zac Fisher and Heath Shaw to get J.cousins (Hawks) and Zac Williams In.

    TD- Just leave it. No trades this week

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    1. Fisher to Cousins looks worthwhile.

      Williams for Shaw is a sidewards trade chasing last week’s points.

      Makes sense if you were going say Ottens to Williams. But not for Shaw.

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  7. Thoughts on Brad Ebert (avg 111) as a POD? Low score of 89 for the year and 7 of his last 12 at home.

    TU- Yes, can average 110+ from here on

    TD- No, will fall back to old scoring

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  8. Sandi plays and Eddy misses:

    OUT: Eddy
    IN: Rockliff

    Sandi misses:

    OUT: Sandi, EVW
    IN: Rockliff, Docherty.

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    1. How are you situated for Rnd 12?

      He doesn’t gain you anything for Rnd 13 which is the tough one, he looks like he’s not going to generate a lot of cash, or score a lot of points.

      If you are rich in trades he might be worthwhile.

      But he doesn’t look much chop as a D7.

      I’m really reconsidering if just taking McNeice and banking the extra 62k for my upgrades is a better option.

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      1. Surely Scharenberg will improve with more games, and as his confidence in his body improves?

        I also don’t think he will ever be a massive scorer, but he should be in that 55 – 65 points per game range most weeks.

        And his JS should be decent with all the injury issues at the pies.

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  9. I only have 17 available for rd 13 and myers/greenwood/perryman are my only rookies not playing. I only have $56k in bank so cant upgrade any of them.
    Was hoping cunico would play last round so I could downgrade myers to him before round 13 to get 18 on field. Are there any other rookies on horizon who will play rd 13? (Already got bolton).

    Otherwise I am tempted to go myers down to cousin this week and then either shaw to doch or sandy to goldy following week (or I could save the myers to cousins trade and just go shaw to lloyd).

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  10. I’m in a bit of trouble for Rd 13 with lots of pies and giants in my side. Will struggle to have 18. Anyway, interested in thoughts on Ablett

    T/up Get him
    T/d Don’t bother

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  11. Two spots left with possible 3 if i can afford luxury trade of Tuohy.

    Should I target?

    T/u Docherty and Williams (Williams this week)

    T/d Docherty and Lloyd (Doc this week)

    This will leave Adams, Laird, Shaw, Tuohy and those two as my premos.

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  12. I’d love a really convincing defensive rookie, but it just doesn’t look like happening.

    EVW -> Ryan
    Myers -> Cousins
    Newman -> Docherty

    The Myers trade is somewhat necessary to set me up for a double upgrade next week, not ideal but he’s not exactly setting the world on fire anyway.

    DEF: Doc, Adams, Laird, Lloyd, Howe, Shaw (Stewart, Ryan)
    MID: Danger, Sloane, Selwood, Treloar, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, Barrett (Fisher, Bolton, Cousins)
    RUC: Martin, Sandi (Strnadica)
    FWD: Yeo, Dahl, Nankervis, Heeney, Steele, Taranto (Greenwood, Parsons)

    Bank: $192k

    Next week: Downgrade Stewart, upgrade Barrett (Neale/Bont?) and Taranto (Macrae/Wallis/Buddy?)

    Team done, 7 trades up my sleeve for injuries or late-season luxury trades. Maybe even a bench upgrade or two if the SC gods are kind.

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    1. Why not wait for Myers-> Cousins next week? Myers has a low BE of 36 and Cousins has the bye this week so you’re not losing cash plus you can field an extra player this week.

      Also if you’re not strapped for cash why not trade Stewart instead of Newman. Newman already had his bye and will still make you $$$ while averaging 90. Stewart’s price gain is less and has his bye this week.

      Doc’s B/E is also 128 so can afford to wait a week

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      1. Cousins and Myers both have the bye in round 13, so Cousins is on the bubble this week. I could trade Fisher out instead, but he has had his bye so is a useful bench player for round 13.

        Stewart instead of Newman is an interesting option. Will give it some thought. I suppose the concern there is that if I delay the next batch of trades by a week or two (say Barrett pulls out a big score this week, or Neale/Bont dish up a sub-90 score) then Stewart has more capacity for growth after his bye than Newman does in the next week or two. Of the two, I’d say Newman is the only one with potential to lose money.

        I’ve been waiting for Doc to put up an average score all season so that his price will come down a bit. Just isn’t happening and don’t want to wait any longer. Not having him could easily cost me games during the remaining bye rounds.

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    1. Schranberg at $160k is too steep for me especially with a bye coming up. I rather punt on McNiece who is a fringe player, save the $50k there and hope he gets another game

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      1. I brought McNiece in at round 6 on the bubble, thinking he was in the team and not double checking the final teams on the friday arvo.

        Despite being named in the VFL bests multiple times he hasn’t played since then. He is a permanent donut. Don’t do it.

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  13. Out- Marchbank/ Williamson/ Barrett
    In- Z.Williams/ Rockliff/Ryan

    11 trades left, 3 premos to go, 212k in bank.

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  14. Would love to keep sandi all year but if it comes finals time and he is a late withdrawal and I get a donut it could be a years worth of SuperCoach down the drain. Thinking of bringing in big mummy?

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  15. Currently tossing up between Rockliff and Kelly, already got my mind decided on getting in Neale after his bye.

    TU: Kelly is the man, Rockliff coming off injury, and won’t be gotten cheaper.

    TD: Rockliff, Kelly’s round 13 bye hurts a bit and Rockliff wont be cheaper this season

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    1. I rate Williams but don’t think it’s worth trading roughy to Wallis. I suspect they’ll both average similar from here – something in the 90’s. I think Roughy has a bigger ceiling.

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  16. My DEFs are Docherty, Adams, Laird, Z.Williams, Lloyd, Newman (Stewart, Scharenburg)

    Who to upgrade Newman/Stewart for at D6:

    TU: Hibberd
    TD: Robertson
    Comment for others.

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  17. I am thinking just the 1 trade

    Otten to the Doc.

    Now an update on how Brother went with his Round 11 Bye Team. After having a debacle with his Captain and forgetting to put the Captain on Danger after VCing Mitchell , he had a last minute brainfade and changed his Captain from Josh Kelly to Mumford.
    It cost him a massive 100pts meaning he finished 200 overall for the Round rather than 32. Seeing as the goal was to finish Top 5 no harm done.

    He was unlucky in another Fantasy Comp Sportsdeck going for the Round 11 Bye overall and finishing 9th overall.
    So he can dream on until next year.

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  18. My year could ride on this call
    Have at least 18 players for the R13 bye already so question is

    T/U – M’bank, Otten & WHE > Doch, Rocky & Scharenberg ($66k left for R13)
    T/D – M’bank, Myers & WHE > Adams, Rocky & Cousins ($5k left for R13)

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  19. Mitch Wallis worth getting in for the rest of the year?

    T.U – get rid of WHE for him
    T.D – Don’t bother, will let you down

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  20. Thoughts on Michael Walters? If I want to trade him it has to be this week. He doesn’t suit my byes but from hearing ross lyon say he will be a permanent mid and how much he played through the middle against collingwood I kinda want to keep him.

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  21. Thoughts on trading Heppell in order to get Rockliff, helps my byes out and Heppell might run out of legs towards the end of the season

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  22. Hi
    If Sandi not named this wk do I…

    Tu grundy, low BE but bye to come.

    Td Martin, will lose $ due to high BE but has had bye.

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    1. If Archie isn’t named, Martin will be super handy for the Rd13 bye. Can almost wait a week on it too if you can field 20+ this week in hope he drops a little.

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  23. The round I come up against my cocky workmate. The supercoach gods have turned on me . He better come back strong

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  24. Harbrow out this week. Caught driving at 0.10.

    Can’t seem to get to Docherty. I’m going to trade Harbrow out for Docherty. Do it?

    I have 19 playing this week without Harbrow.

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  25. My team is set for the year if I use 3 trades this round – can I survive with only 6 trades for the rest of the year with no bench coverage in the backline, Myers & Greenwood (mid), Parsons, Butler (Fwd)????

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      1. If you discard Lynch’s 2 goalless games against GWS and Port Adelaide (29 and 43) he averages 104 from 8 (low of 87 and a high of 161). With his price currently at 433,500 and consecutive games against Hawthorn and Carlton in the next fortnight he is a fantastic option.

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        1. You can’t discard goalless games though. He’s a key forward, it will happen again. That said, he does have a nice string of games to come.

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          1. Goalless games came in 12+ goal losses and with their remaining fixture against Haw, Carl, StK, NM, Syd, Coll, WB, Rich, Freo, Bris, Ess and Port there shouldn’t be too many blow outs. Whilst his scoring is volatile his current price and potential avg for the rest of the season is too good to refuse.

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          2. In his past 74 matches 7 times he has been held goalless for an average of 47.57 (low of 30 and a high of 75, 5/7 below 60)

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            1. Thanks for the stats mate, his $$$ point is very tempting, seems as though buddy will hover at his current price for a while.

              Good string of games is only a bonus for him also

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  26. If Sandi isn’t named, I’ll DPP Nank and bring in a forward for under $500k who has already had their bye.

    But which one? Candidates currently:

    Wallis
    Lynch (GC)
    Franklin
    Ryder

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  27. Is macrae Wallis and dahlhaous too much from one team? Or is it fine for my forward line.
    I have the BONT in midfield too

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  28. Already locked in:

    Myers -> Cousins
    Stewart -> Docherty

    Should i go Newman -> Hibberd with my 3rd trade to complete my back line? (With Doc, Adams, Laird, Shaw, Lloyd)

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  29. Considering going Roughie to Macrae however he poses a B/E of 140.

    T/U – TRADE HIM IN
    T/D – WAIT A WEEK

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  30. Still needing player for R13, and cash, I think I am going to go

    Sandi –> Wallis (vis Nank’s DPP)
    Hardwick –> Cousins (no other downgrade option)

    Will let me bring in Gawn for a forward player later on and move Nank back when I do.

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  31. Alot of people looking at trading sandy. Im running low on trades so I think I will hold him for now due to following reasons:
    1. I have enough players available this round and was not going to have him on field next round anyway
    2. If he misses this week then thats a 4 week break, hopefully he will be all good for the rest of the season.
    4. there are only three ruckmen with averages over 100, I already have one of them (Stef martin) and the other two have as much of an injury history as Sandy (Mummy and Kreuz). Sandy’s average is on par with goldy, jacobs and grundy
    5. Gawn will be back at a heavily discounted price in the next month or so.

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      1. One idea I’m toying with is trade him out now for say Lynch (GC) – nice draw coming up and swing Nank into the rucks for the time being. Just scrape through with 18 on field Rd13 and when Greenwood tops out in 6 weeks, trade him to Gawn which will will give me a F7/F3 swingman or even forward loopholing options.

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        1. After writing my comment I read FD’s comment above mine and I have gone back on everything I said and am toying with a similar idea to you ๐Ÿ˜€
          Thinking of swinging nank into ruck and bringing Macrae in for rd13 (he has a high BE this week so can afford to wait one more week). Then swinging nank bank to forward line later in the year once Gawn bottoms out.

          This also allows me to field 18 in round 13 without trading out shaw.

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  32. 3 trades this week:

    Out: Otten, Newman & Myers
    In: Hibberd, Roberton & Cousins

    Doing this leaves me with 1 def Rookie to upgrade in a couple of weeks to complete the team

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  33. Sandi (via Nank-Greenwood) to Rocky
    Hampton to Scharenberg
    Otten to Hibberd

    159k spare

    T/U- Nice Gary
    T/D- Get Cousins

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  34. Really considering rage trading Harbrow for irresponsibility – what is wrong with him? Surely if he can’t be a team player for his 20 odd mates, he should think of the 6500 supercoach owners, especially those of us who brought him in to be a complete bye cover and stuff up their plans for no good reason.

    TU rage quit him for being a dickhead.
    TD be better than that and take in the big picture.

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    1. Should be fine to cover it this week? But next week it could cause problems. See if it’s just a one week suspension and he may come back to prove something upon return.

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      1. What is worse about Harbrow’s Drink Driving is that he had a young kid in the car as well as being twice the legal limit.

        In this day and age it is just plain reckless behaviour! #Total D***head.

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  35. Fyfe to Rockliff??

    Is Fyfe cooked or is he going to come good and am I just chasing a few points and not worth the trade?

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  36. Thoughts on trading Hibberd to Scharenberg? Will cost 40k but provides some decent bench cover across the final rounds.

    TU: worth a trade.
    TD: not worth it.

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  37. 160k – 16 trades
    Def: Adams, Shaw, Tuohy, Otten, Newmann, Marchbank (Berry, Hibberd)
    Mid: Dangerfield, Fyfe, Kennedy, Pendlebury, Merrett, Beams, P-Pepper, S Selwood (Taranto, Myers, Greenwood)
    Ruck: Sandilands, S Martin (Strnadica)
    Fwd: Macrae, Dahlhaus, Lynch, Roughead, Franklin, Nank (Eddy, Parsons)
    Looking for advice on holding or trading this week and who to?

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  38. 13 trades remaining and 56k in the bank

    TU: Myers>Cousins
    Otten: Scharenberg
    Newman>Hibberd + 323k in the bank

    TD: Myers>Cousins
    Otten> Hibberd(leaves 78k in the bank, plus an extra trade and Newman at D7

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  39. Is this crazy?

    Trade Kelly next week who will be around 620k to Bont who will be around 525k… I predict they will average the same from here on.
    This helps with my byes to field 18 and I pocket nearly 100k to upgrade my final forward premo. Don’t need to rely on our slow burning rookies this year for $$$$$… get to full premo quicker…

    T/U hmmm Good thinking 99…
    T/D yep you damn crazy…

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