Trade Talk R12 – PART TWO

Written by Schwarzwalder on June 7 2017

Teams for the Thursday game will be up this evening.  What have you got in mind for Rd12?

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107 thoughts on “Trade Talk R12 – PART TWO”

  1. T/U – Otten & Myers to Docherty & Cousins

    T/D – Otten & Myers t0 Rockliff & Scharenberg

    I’m leaning towards the first 1 as it frees up more cash, Doch is so consistent and there are still question marks about Rocky. But if I don’t take Rocky now then there is a good chance I won’t be able to afford him and have to fill my last mid with a fallen premium in a couple of weeks.

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  2. Ive changed my mind with the sandy dillema again

    will go myers to cousins then:
    T/U sandy to Lynch (GCS) and Newman to Docherty
    T/D hold sandy this week then upgrade him to macrae and newman to lloyd next week

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  3. SC rank 815
    thinking of finishing my backline with stewart out zak jones in D6
    he’s had his bye
    $438,000
    playing midfield
    so far he has had a 6 game average of 111 @ the SCG , 6 more games there
    3 games @ Etihad , average 55 , no more games there !!
    1 x 93 @ the MCG V blues , 3 more games there V tigers , melb , hawks
    1 to come at skilled & then Adelaide
    highest score this year 143 V bris
    I’d be happy with an 85 average from my D6
    good trade in or better options out there ??

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    1. I’d rather hold Stewart, has a low BE and played really well the past fortnight – spend the extra cash and get a real premium at D6

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  4. T Rockliff Post Bye Averages since 2013:
    2013: 115 from 12
    2014: 139.82 from 11
    2015: 121.33 from 9
    2016: 121.38 from 8
    Combined average post bye since 2013: 124.53 from 40

    Returning from injury and with a low breakeven (55) he is a massive bargain this week.

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  5. top of the morning lads..

    Otten Out – Scharenberg In
    Newman Out – Hibberd In
    Parsons Out – T.J.Lynch In

    leaves me with just 11 trades after that

    T/U Yes
    T/D No

    cheers lads..

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  6. This question was close in the first part, so i’ll ask again

    Have at least 18 players for the R13 bye already so question is

    T/U – M’bank, Otten & WHE > Doch, Rocky & Scharenberg ($66k left for R13)
    T/D – M’bank, Myers & WHE > Adams, Rocky & Cousins ($5k left for R13)

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  7. DEF – Adams, Laird, Tuohy, Shaw, Hibberd, Newman
    BENCH – Scharenberg, Joyce

    MID – Dangerfield, Mitchell, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Crouch, Treloar, Kennedy, S.Selwood
    BENCH – SPP, Greenwood, Myers

    RCK – Grundy, Sandi
    BENCH – Strnadica

    FWD – Macrae, Dalhaus, Steele, Nankervis, Heeney, Hannan,
    BENCH – Stewart, Parsons

    First trade Sandi -> Kreuzer
    Not sure what else to do, need to bring Yeo and Docherty in over the next two weeks. Not sure whether to go for Cousins this week due to bye structure.

    Thoughts?
    Got $297,500 in the bank

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    1. Newman has a BE of 80 I think the probability of either hitting / missing their BE are fairly similar so there is as much probability of you having to pay more for the Newman to Doch trade next week as there is to gain.

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  8. Just going for the league win, 22 playing this week, sitting top of the ladder at the moment. Going to struggle to field 18 next week so do I:

    T/U: Bring in Cousins and Scharenburg to free up cash and tank next week.
    T/D: Look towards trades that fill my side next week.

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  9. In: Hibberd + Cousins
    Out: Stewart + Fox

    Next week:
    In: Yeo, Macrae, Lloyd
    Out: Roughy, Taranto, Newman

    Thoughts??

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    1. The person losing J.Riewoldt/JJK will have to replace them with free agents and if the SCT draft free agents list is anything like yours, it’ll be pretty thin. The points lost on those two would most likely be more than the points gained on Dusty.

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  10. Trades this week as it stands
    OUT: Sandi, Otten, Pruess

    IN: Witts, Roberton, Strnadica

    Roberton is best choice for me this week as already have Doc Laird Adams and Hibberd
    Otten goes before Mcgrath as he has a better potential to score larger as Jenkins is in the team at Adelaide.
    I need players for next week and i am tight on cash so i bring in Witts to replace Sandi, almost as a rage trade
    Preuss is downgraded for the cash as i can’t bring in Cousins for Myers as i just don’t get enough money to do the first trade, which was the major plan.

    I should add i have 15 playing next week if this goes through and can maybe get that to 18 next week with trades but 17 easily

    TU Good plan
    TD Reconsider

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  11. T/U Pay top dollar for docherty this week

    T/D Get Lloyd in a few weeks when his price has dropped and skip doch

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    1. Hard to believe this poll result. Lloyd will be around $200K cheaper than Docherty after next weekend, but is capable of averaging 100. Unless you’re planning to use Doc as a captaincy option, you have to go for Lloyd.

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      1. But Doch along with Adams are the must haves in Defense.
        My biggest mistake this season was not starting with either (went Laird, Howe, Shaw).
        Im bringing in Doch this week and Lloyd will be my final upgrade in a couple of weeks time (for either berry or Stewart).

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  12. TU: Otten and Barrett: Doc and Cousins
    TD: Sandi and Myers: Swing Nank into Ruck and Greenwood into Fwd and get in Rocky and Cousins.

    Both leave me with just about nothing in the bank.

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  13. THUMBS UP:
    Sandilands -> Tim English
    Teia Miles -> Cousins
    Otten -> Docherty
    (Leaves me with $250k on the side)

    THUMBS DOWN:
    Sandilands -> Tim English
    Barrett -> Cousins
    Otten -> Docherty
    (Leaves me with $427k on the side) kind of want to keep Barrett but not sure

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  14. Do eagles supporters know if Mutimer is going to play again this season?

    TU: Myers to Cousins
    TD: Mutimer to Cousins

    Comment: Hold fire on trades (15 left)

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  15. Is it worth trading McInees to Scharenberg?

    T/U: Yes, will make more money
    T/D: No, a waste of a trade

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    1. I’m sure McInnes if he is the WC lad has been put back onto the rookie list last week or week before. If so, he is not going to make any money or provide cover during byes / after. So it’s a yes to Schara for me.

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      1. Can confirm, back on the rookie list. Won’t be seeing him again this year unless more LTI’s hit.

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  16. Currently have 14 trades & a complete MID.
    At this stage I’m looking at 2 trades that help me get one step closer to either a complete forward line or back line
    OUT : Turner & J Atley IN: Lynch (GC) & Cousins, OR
    OUT : T Stewart & Myers IN: M Hibberd & Cousins
    Thoughts? Have 19 on field this week if I do neither.

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  17. Thoughts on bringing Ryder in for Sandi and then moving him to F6 and make a trade for Gawn when he’s back?

    Current forwards: Yeo, Buddy, Dahlhaus, Nank, Greene

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  18. I have D Myers on field at the moment covering byes but he is struggling to make any money and scoring poorly, is it worth trading him for J Cousins to make more money next week and have a better long term JS even though they both have byes next week (will still field at least 19 next week)
    T/U get him in, better scoring and frees up cash for upgrades
    T/D Hold Myers, might do better this week and trades precious

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  19. 1st trade will be Otten to a cheap defender, not with a R13 bye.
    Then, with one spot left in my Midfield, I’m thinking I’ll trade in Rocky this week
    Other MIDS are Danger, J Selwood, Bont, Fyfe, Pendles, T Mitchell & Treloar

    TU : Do it, BE of 50, worth the risk and unlikely to be under $600k again
    TD: Prefer Sloane after R13 BYE or D Martin after this week

    Will be trading out Myers. Have 16 trades before I do anything this week.

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    1. I’d go Rocky in your position, allows a bit extra cash to fill other lines next week that’s if you can find a downgrade for otten, the barrel is pretty dry.

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  20. Not sure who to bring in this week out of Josh Kennedy (Sydney) or Rocky?

    TU: Kennedy – Good value, always comes home with a wet sail
    TD: Rockliff – low BE and already had his annual injury

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  21. Will pass on Rocky – instead tossing up between
    TU: Either of the Swans pair – Hannebury or Kennedy
    TD: Beams – will he stay injury free?

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  22. Hey
    Thumbs up- trade in hibberd, cousins, Mitch Wallis
    Or
    Thumbs down-trade in docherty and cousins

    Cheers

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  23. So im thinking

    Out: Taranto, Otten, Turner
    In: Hibberd, Franklin, Cousins

    Would lose my fwd/mid dpp link though

    T/u. Worth it
    T/d. Re-think

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  24. The Sandy Dilemma!! (Have 20 on the ground without Sandi)
    T/U – Trade Sandi this week > Lynch (GCS)
    T/D – Hold Sandi and trade him next week > Yeo

    In both cases DPP Nank to ruck
    Thanks gents

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  25. Is it worth going Harbrow to Hibberd sideways? Or just cop it this week and hope his scores start to improve again.

    FWIW – I have 19 on the park this week (excluding Harbrow). Ranked 6K and 14 trades left. Aiming for top 1K finish.

    T/U – Yup stick with Harbrow and save trade. Will avg 95+ for rest of season
    T/D – Bring in Hibberd. Will go 100+ and worth the sideways trade.

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  26. Tell me im crazy.

    Need one more forward and mid. Was decided on going taranto to dalhaus next week and then the last premo mid for barrett at some point.
    But now my crazy head is thinking, swing steele to mid, trade myers to lynch and still doing the dal trade next week and the barrett one later. And then using steele/other for loopholing sneakery around the lines.

    Please tell me im crazy. 16 trades left before doing anything

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  27. Going to trade Sandi. Extra body for this week (I’ve already lost DUI Harbrow) and an 18th body for next week (at the moment).
    Looking at Ryder or Witts. Port have a great draw. 7 out of 12 in Adelaide and 4 of the last 5 in Adelaide, including the SuperCoach GF at home to Gold Coast in R23. I think that clinches my choice.
    Is Ryder a worthwhile pick?

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  28. If Sandi is not named this week will look to move him on (most likely was going to have to be upgraded at some point anyway + R13 bye).

    T/U – Martin
    T/D – Mumford

    Will bring Gawn in for Witts when he’s back and cheap.

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  29. TU Otten to Hibberd, Myers to Cousins
    TD Otten to Hibberd, Taranto to Lynch, Preuss to Strnadica (Nank and Stef in ruck with no cover)

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  30. Done it!
    Otten>Hibberd
    Burton>Yeo
    SPP>Pendlebury
    Okay for next week, 900 dollars short of Rocky, but think Pendles dependability makes that okay.

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  31. I cant remember if this be done but if I have a playing player on the bench then have a bye round player on my field can I EMG that player on my bench if they have a good score? If they stink it up make the switch and sub in the playing player on my bench
    For example have Cousins on my bench (EMG) he scores 85 flick Scott Selwood (take of D.Lloyd) on to my field do I take Cousins score if its in my best 18 or not?
    I don’t think I have ever had a surplus of players in a bye round but can do this in my DEF and Mids this week

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      1. I assume you have 8 playing mids + S Selwood, Cousins and another bye player on your bench?
        Pretty sure your example would work. You’d get Cousins’ 85 in place of non-playing Selwood and you’d lose Lloyd’s score, as you won’t have him in your 18 on the field and also no “E” on him.

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        1. Yer so my Mids are Bont, Tmitch, JPK, Beams, Barrett, Fyfe, Pendles obviously wont loophole any of them then have M8 for the week a choice out of Lloyd and Cousins. So if Cousins were to kill it have Scott Selwood on the field and then I’d have Cousins as my EMG contributing to my score

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  32. Looking to fill the final spot in the fwd line, have Dahl, Macrae, Yeo, Nank, Lynch.

    TU: Wallis (FYI would make it 4 doggies all up with Bont)
    TD: Franklin

    Was also considering Heeney but had to boil it down to 2.

    Thanks!

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  33. Thoughts on these trades
    Ottens –> Hibberd
    Sandi –> Lynch
    Myers –> Cousins
    Leaves me with 366k ITB with the option to trade
    Berry/Newman for Doch next week
    Upgrade Taranto –> S.Martin or Premium FWD
    Plus another trade if something came up

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  34. Premium shopping time this week.

    Currently was thinking of doing one of these options:

    Option 1

    Otten – Doc
    Sandi – Bont (via Strandica and Bolton DPP)

    $77,900 and 14 trades left

    Option 2

    Otten – Doc
    Sandi – Lynch (GCS, via only Strandica DPP)

    $198,000 and 14 trades left

    T/U – Option 1
    T/D – Option 2

    Additionally, here’s how my team is looking before I pull a few trades this week:

    DEF: Laird, Adams, Shaw, Simpson, Hibberd (MEL), Otten (Stewart, Scharenberg)
    MID: TMitch, Fyfe, Beams, JPK, Treloar, SPP, Barrett, Fisher (Dangerfield, Bolton, Hibberd (NTH))
    RUCK: Martin, Nank (Sandi)
    FWD: Macrae, Yeo, Heeney, Dahlhaus, Greenwood, Parsons (Eddy, Strandica)

    Feel free in the comments coaches to let me know of some other Rd 11 or Rd 9 bye players I should be considering more closely too if you’d like. 🙂

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  35. After much pondering:

    Sandi –> Wallis (Nank DDP into Ruck)
    Otten –> Hibberd
    Hardwick –> Cousins

    Gives me 17 in R13 with WHE still to trade out. 20 in R12.

    Won’t do the last two until tomorrow, since tonight’s match won’t affect them, leaves me with $134,300 going into R13, which added to WHE should be enough to bring in someone I want.

    Will have 14 trades left after R12.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Unsure on the selection of M Wallis. From his 2 games he is averaging 18.5 contested possessions from an average of 27 disposals which equates to a contested possession rate of 68.52%. This puts him just about 10% above Dangerfield (59.12%) and between 15%-26% ahead of the likes of Selwood, Sloane, Rockliff, D Martin, etc.

      His contested possession rate is unsustainable therefore his average will drop to between 85 and 100 inevitably.

      If you think he will sustain his numbers for the majority of the year then select him but there are presently more reliable and better options than Wallis in the fwd line.

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  36. Thinking of trading out Roughy to get T Lynch (GC)…

    TU: Great idea – upgrade to a definite keeper for small change
    TD: Sideways move – waste of a trade

    Thanks guys

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  37. The reverse trade button is getting a work out. At the moment I am considering:
    TU:
    Otten > Hibberd
    Balic > Scharenberg (via Hibberd)
    Sandi > Lynch (via Nank)
    BANK: $16,000

    TD:
    Otten > Hibberd
    Balic > Cousins
    Sandi > Wallis (via Nank)
    BANK: $37,400

    Interested in community thoughts on JS and scoring output of Cousins v Scharenberg & Wallis v Lynch (GCS)

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  38. Can’t decide who to trade Sandi to…

    TU: Wallis
    TD: Lynch (GCS)

    Lynch presents really good value and is reasonably consistent for a KPF but Wallis can swing into the mids and could potentially become an M9/F7 swingman.

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  39. TU Bont (Recent low scores could be down to Wallis being back)
    TD Zorko

    Comment JPK (I also own Heeney, Hanners, Lloyd and Newman.

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  40. T/U – Trade Powell-Pepper this week to Cousins as i’ve got cover for next two bye weeks. With 300k in bank look to get Laird/Doch/Lloyd in backline and can still upgrade Barrett to a possible premium mid (Neale? when he comes down)

    T/D – Don’t trade Powell-Pepper but have only 150K and try to strengthen average backline in the coming weeks with different rookies

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  41. 157k – 16 trades, bet options this week?
    Def: Adams, Shaw, Otten, Newmann, Marchbank, Berry (Touhy, (Nth)Hibberd)
    Mid: Dangerfield, Fyfe, Kennedy, Pendlebury, Merrett, Beams, P-Pepper, Taranto (Danger, Myers, S.Selwood)
    Ruck: Sandilands, S Martin (Strnadica)
    Fwd: Macrae, Dahlhaus, Lynch, Roughead, Franklin, Nank (Eddy, Parsons)

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  42. TU: Sandi + Ottens —> Cousins + Scharenberg
    – 600k in the bank allowing me to get BONT, Yeo + Premo next week
    TD: Myers + Ottens —> Cousins + Scharenberg
    – 350k in the bank allowing me to get BONT + T.Lynch

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  43. Just waiting to hear the extent of Harbrow’s suspension so i can finalise my trades. They said “by the weekend” so today’s the day. If Harbrow’s missing a month of footy i might punt him but if it’s a couple of weeks i’ll wear the pain and deal with Sandi instead.

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  44. I’ve left upgrading my fwd line till last.
    Currently it’s Macrae, Dahlhaus, WHE, Taranto, Greenwood, Stewart, (Parsons and Eddy).
    With Nank in the ruck at the moment and will be moved back to fwd when Gawn returns. Planning on getting Yeo next week.
    So essentially I have two gaps to fill but three options… Dixon, Heeney and Greene. However is Lynch too good of value this week to pass up? Is it worth getting him on now and using him as F7 later on?
    With 14 trades remaining
    Any thoughts on these defenders?
    Thanks heaps

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  45. Ainsworth you beauty. Been crying out all week for a FWD rookie option.

    Who comes out for him though:

    TU – Myers (Bolton DPP)
    TD – Parsons

    I’m light on for Rd 13 so Myers is attractive but I’ve got a very tight league game this week that I need to win so Parsons sounds good too.

    Guess its who is the better long term option then. JS the priority.

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  46. Trades this week:

    Out: Taranto, WHE, Sandilands

    In: Rockliff, Lynch (GC) and Ainsworth

    leaves me with $380k in the kitty and enough players for the R13 bye.

    Thoughts?

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  47. Out: Balic/Sandi/Otten
    In: Rockliff/Ainsworth/Ryan

    Leaves me with 15 trades, 175k.
    Ryan will be D8 with Newman and Stewart D6/7, before getting Doch/Lloyd next week.

    T/U: Ryan perfect for irrelevant at D8.
    T/D: Scharenberg worth extra $?

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  48. 1 Priddis ➡️ Rocky
    2 SPP ➡️ Cousins
    3 Taranto ➡️ Lynch

    16 trades remaining.

    ⬆️ Do all 3
    ⬇️ 1 and 2 only

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