2013 Byes



Trade Talk R13

by Motts on June 18, 2012

Last of the 3 bye rounds coming up. Are you just hibernating your way through or are you cheekily picking up some of the value that’s on offer at the moment?

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DamenS June 18, 2012 at 7:26 am

Sam Shaw looks tempting, despite his price rise, but think I should conserve trades for the inevitable injuries which occur in the run home …

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 7:48 am

In hindsight I would have been better not to go Ellis > Spurr but to hold and do Ellis > Shaw. Hindsight is wonderful.

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BC June 18, 2012 at 1:52 pm

Jester, unfortunately you could win supercoach on hindsight

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 7:33 am

Tippet for my money. If Tex does not kick the bag of 3, 4 or 5 goals his scores are not great.

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ADELAIDE4EVA June 18, 2012 at 7:41 am

But when isnt he going to kick a bag in an Adelaide side, with quick entry’s and i have always thought tippet was a spud so im going with tex.

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 7:51 am

A4EVA. Not the biggest fan of Tippet myself from both being let down in past SC seasons & him missing easy ones from 20 metres, but his contested marks & dabbles in the rucks is what help him out. Saying that, if your gut says go Tex, sit back & enjoy the ride as he is great to watch.

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 12:24 pm

When isn’t Tex going to kick a bag? How about when the crows actually come against some decent opposition.

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ADELAIDE4EVA June 20, 2012 at 8:11 am

You dont call sydney, geelong, carlton decent opponents.. and we do have GWS, Port, GC, Geelong and Freo twice.

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Fishtopher June 20, 2012 at 2:18 pm

He didn’t play against the Blues, had a good day against the Cats but they were missing Scarlett and his five goals against the Swans were from 8 kicks and only earnt him 87 SCs.

Don’t get me wrong, I think once Tex is playing with his head permanently screwed on the right way he should be a gun. It seems like Sando could make that happen but for now I still can’t trust him.

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Catta June 20, 2012 at 2:29 pm

There’s only room for one mulletman in the AFL… move over Tex, the Ivan Maric show is continuing to roll on!

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 7:43 am

Only planned trade this week is Treloar to Michael Johnson to create the Johnson / Smedts D/F DPP link. Hopefully Johnson can carry on his solid, consistent form & prove a good swing man used mainly in defence.

Thumbs UP: Treloar to M. Johnson great move.
Thumbs DOWN: Queries on Johnson’s SC calibre.

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Anonymous SC Superhero June 18, 2012 at 11:21 am

Who out there rates this side set going into round 13?

5 trades, 50k in the bank.
Backs: Deledio, Goddard, Waters, Johnson, Hurn, Broughton, Lake: Darley, Sam Shaw
Mids: Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, Selwood, Dal Santo, Priddis: Crozier/Gibson, Ledger
Rucks: Ryder, Nic Nat: Big O, Redden
Fwds: Sidebottom, Beams, Dangerfield, Franklin, Martin, Cloke, Zorko: Treloar, Sexton

Only weak link is my mid bench cover. There are no good options for Horse this week, but leaning to Crozier to activate my mid/fwd link. Hopefully Couch gets named. And Ledger, well he is just a jib.

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 7:56 am

Treloar’s horrible day is troubling me. He was part of my plan over the next month but now I am not so sure. Maybe he has to go before time. Ideally I would liked to have him as a bench keeper to cover donuts during finals but I cannot have a player delivering those scores or getting dropped often because of poor form. What do others think?

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Roo Bloke June 18, 2012 at 9:06 am

i think we are all reassessing our views on Treloar

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Coleman June 18, 2012 at 8:16 am

Need a downgrade option for Treloar!

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PA June 18, 2012 at 8:19 am

Crozier.

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 8:49 am

Do you trust Ross Lyon PA?

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PA June 18, 2012 at 9:50 am

Only really need him to play this week for cover, your team should be set by R14 anyway. Crozier is also a M/F DPP and at $106K is great value, Imo.

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 10:13 am

I like Crozier and his DPP but I have been burnt by Ross already this season. I feel Gibson has better JS so may sacrifice the mid fwd link for Gibson’s JS.

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Coleman June 18, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Patton?

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benno June 18, 2012 at 9:29 am

Gibson?

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Max June 18, 2012 at 9:37 am

Theres a few I would be considering:
Gibson, Crozier, Patton
In that order.

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Scotty June 18, 2012 at 1:31 pm

The one I am hoping come up is that Tom Mitchell from Sydney. Surely with Parker out for a few it will be Mitchell’s turn to step up.

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Spindle June 18, 2012 at 4:57 pm

He missed the last reservers game as his knee tendinitis has flared up again. I recon he would be lucky to get a game for the rest of the year. Might be a good option next year…

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Juddy but not THE Juddy June 18, 2012 at 8:49 am

will make 2 trades this week of Horsley-Gibson and Ellis-S.Selwood (swap Lids into backs). Then my team looks like this

Goddard, Delidio, H.Shaw, Hurn, Scotland, Clarke, Dempsey..Bugg, Darley
Ablett, Watson, J.Selwood, S.Selwood, Dal Santo, Zorko..Shiel, Gibson
Ryder, Giles..Redden, Stephenson
Franklin, Sidebottom, Pavlich, Lewis, Cloke, Martin, Porps..Treloar, Adams.

7 trades left and $46.5k in the kitty.

If at some stage Williams and/or Couch get a crack I will downgrade Shiel and Treloar/Adams for them and drop Zorks to F7 and put in Swan/Pendles/Thompson/Boyd into mids and will look to upgrade 1 or both of Clarke/Dempsey to Carrots/Waters/Adcock.

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Gooby pls June 18, 2012 at 11:00 am

keep ellis for now and move treloar this week i think (moving zorko to F7). more money for you long term. and i dont think s selwood is the best option long term tbh. by using treloar rather than ellis you should be able to grab one of those other premium mids you listed shouldnt you?

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Juddy but not THE Juddy June 18, 2012 at 11:12 am

Hmmmmmmm.

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Juddy but not THE Juddy June 18, 2012 at 11:22 am

If I don’t take out Ellis then I cannot put Lids into the backline. I guess it can wait a few weeks though. How about Treloar and Horsely for Gibson and Pendles if he plays. I can carry Pendles a couple of weeks till he is on song again. I would have got Swan but fell 3k short!

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 7:36 pm

Pendles out for another two weeks.

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Juddy but not THE Juddy June 20, 2012 at 11:24 am

Well that changes things with Pendles out.
Ok. I have now made 3 trades this week which will leave me with 6 and $128k
Horsley/Treloar and Stephenson out
Swan, Gibson and Pattison in.

Next week trade out Bugg/Clarke or Dempsey and get Carrots then the following week or 2 after that trade Ellis and shift Lids into the backline and Shiel for Pendles. That will leave 3 trades for not a lot of things able to go wrong but will give me a finished side of the following

Goddard, Delidio, H.Shaw, Hurn, Scotland, Carrazo, Dempsey/Clarke/Bugg(2 of these 3), Darley
Ablett, Watson, J.Selwood, Swan, Pendlebury, Dal Santo, Adams,Gibson
Ryder, Giles..Redden, Pattison
Franklin, Sidebottom, Pavlich, Lewis, Cloke, Martin, Zorko, Porps, Couch/D’Ollio

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marcus June 18, 2012 at 8:54 am

spewing i have 9 guys out of my starting 22 not playing….stupid bye rounds

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El Greco June 18, 2012 at 8:57 am

Planning 3 trades this week, what are your thoughts?

Macdonald -> Gibson
Clarke -> Hurn
Treloar -> Goodes (comes back this week)

Would’ve put Chappy in though I’d be 3 K short of Hurn…
Enright and Chappy could be another alternative?

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nkynicko June 18, 2012 at 10:40 am

Wait on Goodes he has a high BE (135) also and you want to see him in action first after an his injury.

Can also get carrazo cheap in a few weeks

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Matteo June 18, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Is he back!!! Yay! I’ve been carrying him all this time! He could save me this week

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm

trained last saturday & i am sure it said will join full training this wednesday with a view to playing on friday night.

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Nateo June 18, 2012 at 9:03 am

zaharakis>thompson (adel) 1 more wekk maybe

treloar/devon smith/ horse for pavlich/robinson

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Max June 18, 2012 at 9:34 am

Bit of a ruck poll:

Nic Naitinui- Thumbs up

Sam Jacobs + 80K- Thumbs down

The 80k could be used quite nicely for my team I think.

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Don Cottagers June 18, 2012 at 9:52 am

So could Nic Nat

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ARC June 18, 2012 at 4:53 pm

thanks

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gavsta June 18, 2012 at 9:47 am

Who is thinking of keeping Zorko as M6 or F7?

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 11:57 am

F7

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Don Cottagers June 18, 2012 at 9:51 am

I’m looking at three more trades this week:

OUT: Giles (I love him, but I want that cash now!), Morris, Ellis
IN: Crozier (by moving Roughead back into the rucks), M Johnson, Adcock

A few selections obviously pending, but that should leave me doughnut-less for the first time during the bye weeks and hopefully move up from 223!

Also leaves me with only one back to get to complete my team

B: Deledio, Goddard, Johnson, Broughton, Adcock, Lake, S Shaw – Darley, Spurr
M: Ablett, J Selwood, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Dal Santo, Priddis – McDonald, Adams
R: Naitanui, Roughead – Redden, Stephenson
F: Franklin, Sidebottom, Dangerfield, Beams, Chapman, Zorko, Martin – D Smith, Crozier

Happy to play Zorko F7 (I always planned to have one rookie on the field at the end setting up my team and it is him)

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Great team DC. If you need to maximise points this week for the overall prize, it may be worth going Pendles (out for another 2 according to AFL.com.au) to Swan or S.Thompson etc. To do so, maybe put off the Ellis trade for a bit as he is due to go up anyway. Carrozzo, Judd & Pendles will be cheap over the coming weeks.

I play you in LoEC1 this week & you will beat me by 300+ points. However, you are correctly going for the 50K. Checking to see if Pendles is out for 2 weeks or more could be crucial for you getting a jump on the 200+ above you as most will be holding him.

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Don Cottagers June 19, 2012 at 8:39 am

Thanks for the advice Andy. Unfortunately, I really don’t think that I can do the Pendlebury trade, simply because I will be down to five trades after doing an upgrade/downgrade next week, and I think that there is a very good chance that I will get that many injuries of a longer time over the next month.

It is a risk deciding if/when to trades premiums, but I have always had a four-week-rule. If a guy is ruled out for four matches or more then I can trade him, otherwise, ride it out.

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Andy B June 19, 2012 at 1:07 pm

I am keeping Pendles myself & generally work on the same basis. I am sure most of those ahead of you for the overall prize that have him will keep him which equals it out. You have a great team & it looks like you will get a good score this round.

I noticied your comments to Motts on you studying law. I am sure SC will provide a great distraction. Good luck with the study.

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Max June 18, 2012 at 10:07 am

Three trades lined up for me this week I think.
OUT: Sandilands, Horsley, Hall
IN: Naitinui, Dangerfield, Gibson

To leave me with 7 trades left and my team looking like this:

B: Goddard, Deledio, H.Shaw, Birchall, Lake, Clarke, Golby- S. Shaw, Ellis
M: Ablett, Pendles, Selwood, Dal Santo, Rockliff, Priddis- Adams, Gibson
R- Naitinui, Giles – Redden, Big O
F- Franklin, Dangerfield, Sidebottom, Martin, Hale, Zorko, Porplyzia- Zaharakis, Cameron

I think I will carry Zaharakis until he is back, because I am quite low on trades. Next week I think I will go Cameron- Bargain Forward. Then if all goes well the week after that I will get Carazzo in for Golby.

I am hoping to win my leagues aswell as finish with a high overall ranking.

Thumbs up- Good trades, team on the right track
Thumbs down- Bad trades, you will probably need more trades for the end of season

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 10:16 am

I was impressed to see Gibson straight into the team and not the sub. North do not have a star studded midfield so I suppose he has a place there. What do others feel about his JS? Can any Roo supports give us some insight?

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Scotty June 18, 2012 at 1:57 pm

I don’t think Liam Anthony has played for a while, might be a worry when/if he comes back.

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Roo Bloke June 19, 2012 at 12:46 pm

I hope Anthony never comes back, not for now at least … other teams let him get heaps of the ball and then close in on him, pressure him and he butchers the ball. Been happening all last season and this season. He’s out of the side for a reason!!

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Scotty June 18, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Having said that I will be getting him. Cheap as chips and going to play a few games. I still have Magner on my bench because I reckon he will play almost every game this year, so I think I can take a risk with someone like Gibson

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underrated June 18, 2012 at 10:23 am

Just would like your thoughts on where I should be strengthening, was thinking out trading out Kreuzer, just this week, then defence the next.
Trades: 8
Bank: $479,800
B: Scotland, Goddard, Duffield, Birchall, M.Clarke, Lake, S Shaw – B.Elis, Spurr
M: Ablett, Deledio, Pendlebury, Watson, Priddis, McDonald – Neale, A.Kennedy
R: Maric, Kruezer – Redden, Stephenson
F: Franklin, Sidebottom, Dangerfield, S.Johnson, Chapman, Martin, Hall – Sexton, Smedts

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nkynicko June 18, 2012 at 10:54 am

I’d upgrade Mids, Backs For then Rucks depending if your going on overall or league win. Your a bit short on cash cows atm

I think upgrade Kruezer last fill your other spots with Prems

Mids – If Lids goes back to backline you actually only have 4 Pure Prems mid (Ablett, Pendles(Injured), Watson, Priddas) – i’d be looking at upgrading here first maybe selwood, thompson etc (2 Trades)

Backs – you can upg Clarke and Ellis and maybe play lake as your B7, maybe Carrazzo & Shaw (2 trades)

Forwards – your strongest atm just have 1 Prem spot to fill maybe Goodes/Pav later on (1 Trade)

Rucks – Kruez to anyone not injured lol (1 Trade)

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underrated June 18, 2012 at 12:00 pm

thanks for your input, yeah spurr, kennedy, smedts aren’t doing much luckily i have heaps of cash to spend from previous cash cows

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 11:34 am

You look like you still have worse problems then sideways trading a premium for a premium. You need to get rid of Kennedy first for a premium. Although Thompson will average about 10ppg more your bleeding points having two unreliable rookies with Sexton and Kennedy especially if you need to field them. You need to have solid bench warmers at least one good player for cover in case of late withdrawls.

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Brian June 18, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Thanks to those who have thumbed and to Jimbo for your insight. I brought Ebert in at R3 with the premise he would be an upgrade target especially as he has the bye this week, though his consistancy to hit the ton has been a surprise and sowed the seed of doubt hence the poll. Have some thinking and finance juggling to do.

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J. Gillard June 18, 2012 at 8:29 pm

If you want to trade in scott thompson, you should probably wait a week because he has a huge breakeven of 149.

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Shane June 18, 2012 at 11:15 am

Is it too soon to have your team settled for the rest of the season?

If I use the 3 trades allocated this week I will only have injuries to deal with for the remaining rounds.

The only problem will be the amount of trades I’;ll have left – 4.

Would love to know others’ opinions.

Or just give a thumbs up for using the trades, thumbs down for holding off.

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 11:27 am

Depends on what your aim is?
- If its overall then Jay last years winner only had a couple trades after this time of the year.
- If your only going for league win and you are towards bottom of ladder then go for it, trade away you need the wins.
- If your towards the top of the ladder it might be better to hold some trades as this year has shown there are a lot of injuries that just pop up that you would need to cover.

Personally believe that you need your finalised team ASAP but don’t compromise on the premiums that you want. Make sure you get the best of the best even if you have to wait three weeks for them to drop to there lowest price and rookies have peaked.

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Shane June 18, 2012 at 11:39 am

My team would be:

B: Deledio, Goddard, Scotland, Waters, H Shaw, T Mohr, R Shaw (Brennan/S Shaw)
M: Ablett, Stanton, Kennedy, Cotchin, S Selwood, J Selwood (Adams/Sexton)
R: Cox, Giles (Redden/Stephenson)
F: Franklin, Sidebottom, Dangerfield, S Johnson, Martin, J Riewoldt, Zorko (Crozier/Hall)

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 11:48 am

Midfield, rucks and forwards are solid. Still need one more upgrade in your backline you can’t keep T Mohr on the field, try get Carrots in a couple weeks. But other then that solid team and I would be happy with that for the rest of the year touch wood no injuries but everyone is in same boat.

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Shane June 18, 2012 at 11:55 am

Yeah, I realised that as I typed it out…

I have some thinking to do – Lucky it’s only Monday and I can stew on it all week instead of using my time to something more constructive!

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 11:21 am

Using my hard earned cash and getting the best of the best players to strenghten my midfield and forward line.

Treolar — Sidebottom
D Smith —- Watson

It feels so good doing a double upgrade and love getting rid of two GWS players therefore don’t have to yell at Sheeds when he is changing there position around every week and screwing there SC score.

Then all I need to do is:
McDonald – Gibson for some cash in Rd14.
Horsely — Pendles when he is back from injury.
Ellis – Carrazo for hopefully less than $200K when Ellis has peaked and Carrots has dropped to $440K.

That would leave me with this:
5 trades with practically no money and this team:

B: Deledio, Goddard, Shaw, Birchall, Scotland, Carrots, Lake – Shaw, Darley
M: Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Watson, Selwood, Dal Santo – Gibson, Adams
R: Goldstein, Giles – Redden, Big O
F: Franklin, Dangerfield, Beams, Sidebottom, Zaha, Martin, Zorko – Porps,Smedts

T/U: Good team.
T/D: Rethink your remaining trades.

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm

Overall very good.
What happens if Giles is out for a couple with injury? How confident are you that Redden and Big O can carry your ruck bench?

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Very thin in the rucks but hopefully I can have a lil cash up my sleeve to then upgrade him if a long term injury strikes. If its just for a week il be fine getting a donut unless its league final. Even if I had say Maric instead of Giles the same would still be true and im not going to trade Giles if I can because nearly every ruckmen has come down with some injury and knowing my luck whoever I trade in will be out in the first few minutes.

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Gooby pls June 18, 2012 at 11:29 am

well since everyones doing it how about a thumbs up/down for me: after R14 (still 2 weeks from now) how about this for the rest of the season:

def: goddard, deledio, waters, carrazzo, mackie, lake, dempsey (ellis, shaw)
mid: ablett, pendlebury, watson, thompson, priddis, barlow (pfieffer, gibson)
ruc: ryder, giles (redden, longer)
fwd: franklin, sidebottom, rioli, tippet, pavlich, dahlhaus, zorko (cameron, smedts)

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 11:42 am

How many trades do you have?

Your team looks like a rollercoaster to be honest, too many midpricers that will average well below premiums in that line. ie: Mackie, Lake, Dempsey, Barlow, Giles and Daulhouse. Its fine having 1 or 2 but 6 is a bit too many, but again depends on your aim for the year and who you are playing. They are good PODS and still solid players I would just prefer to have:
- Birchall, Shaw
- Swan
- Beams

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Gooby pls June 18, 2012 at 12:01 pm

yeah well ive had lake, dempsey, barlow and giles since the start of the season, mackie i needed as an upgrade once one of my cows (cant remember who now) was about to take a downward spiral and i only had limited cash, hes been since i got him though. dahlhaus was meant to be a cheap premium, but it was early in the season before i was doing research and that backfired on me, bit disappointing but last few weeks he’s been a little better.

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 11:35 am

Treloar, Adam Kennedy out,

M Johnson, Rookie (Most likely Crozier, but open to suggestions. Must be cheap) in

Thumbs up if you like this trade.
Thumbs down if you don’t.

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 11:52 am

The only problem with Crozier is Ross Lyon. He has a proven track record of not playing the kids and as we know from him only playing Spurr for the three games. Hopefully Crozier is different and if you need the cash then go for it. Otherwise wait a week and see how Gibson goes as he is a very good VFL player averaging I believe 28 disposals, obviously the difference betweek VFL and AFL is huge and he did look out of his depth in first game at times, but hopefully that was just nerves.

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 12:06 pm

Only issue is I don’t have the cash for a straight Treloar-Johnson swap, so I need the money from the Kennedy downgrade. I understand what you mean about Crozier; a few weeks back Spurr was all the rage. I wouldn’t mind trading in a rookie that will start being played later on in the seaon; of course it is pretty hard to predict who’ll succeed so far out.

So, to recap, I don’t need instant gratification with my rookie downgrade; I only picked Crozier because it seemed there is really not much of an alternative. Of course, if someone like Melbourne’s Couch is selected this week, I’ll snap him up over Crozier because A: He’s cheaper. B: Not much worse JS than Crozzy. C: Ross Lyon D: See B&C.

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 1:00 pm

If Crozier is named pick him up then, there is little point of trying to predict the future with certain rookies as Couch has done really well in the magoos and still hasn’t been called up and no rumors suggesting he will anytime soon. If you can wait a week or even jump on now Gibson would have more JS and score better as he is a mature rookie. Mitchell could get a game towards the end of the year but wouldn’t hold my breath.

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 1:08 pm

Got a Mid/FWD Dpp link so I can bring Gibson in. Better JS+Me likes.

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Ideal week for Couch to come in. I’d take him sight unseen ahead of Crozier and his FURLable JS.

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Obama June 19, 2012 at 10:10 am

hi who is couch? Sorry im new to fantasy footy

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Roo Bloke June 19, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Good point jimbo. Might look at Crozier this week instead of Gibson and get Gibson next week. Hmmmm.

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Andy B June 21, 2012 at 8:07 am

Crozier looks like he can play & I love my DPP rookies.
His mark last year was fantastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdmCiiJpeFY

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TIm June 18, 2012 at 11:55 am

Horsley to Sam Gibson

Milera to Dangerfield

Treloar to Beams

4 trades left

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Quicky June 18, 2012 at 12:02 pm

Need 2 more in my fwd, who to bring in?

Sidebum and Cloke/Boomer – up

Tippet and N.Roo/Pav – down

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 1:35 pm

As much as it should hurt I’d go for the two scummers – Sidey & Cloke.

Apologies if your a Magpie (not for what I said, just for you being a Magpie)

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Juddy but not THE Juddy June 18, 2012 at 1:41 pm

HA! x12

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gavsta June 18, 2012 at 12:15 pm

Out: Magner, Giles
In: NicNat and Gibson.
Keep Giles if he is named or upgrade to NicNat

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Dave June 18, 2012 at 12:58 pm

Treloar>Thompson (one week early unfortunately)
Milera>Pavlich
Then maybe another cash move, but I’m getting a bit thin in the trades dept.

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Lethal June 18, 2012 at 1:17 pm

I am bringing Waters in next week to finish my backline, but I can upgrade/downgrade my midfield 1 more time, then thats it.

My Team stands at
Backs : Deledio, Goddard, Johnson, Mackie, Lake, Hargrave, Shaw (Darley, Wrigley)
Midfield : Ablett,, Watson, Mitchell, Swan, Hayes, Priddis (McDonald, Pfeiffer)
Rucks : Cox, Giles (Redden, Pattison)
Forwards : Franklin, Sidebum, Dangerfield, Hale, Cloke, Bruest, Zorko (Adams, Hall)

I will sell McDonald for Gibson and upgrade Hayes to either
1. Pendles (TU)
2. Selwood. (TD)
Money is not a consideration anymore, i have what I need.

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Eagling June 19, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Okay, so Scott of the Pendleburys is out until Round 15 at the earliest based on the weather formations over Taiwan, the position of Jupiter against the backdrop of the Andromeda Galaxy and the fact that Collingwood’s premier onballer has split his shin.

Okay, so, at most, you’re looking at 9 games for Pendles v 11 for Selwood, barring injuries etc. That begs the question: Can Pendlebury both make up and supercede Joelwood’s Supercoach Scoring and will you be able to handle missing a premium for the next two weeks depending on your league positions?

I say go for Joelwood. He’s pretty good himself.

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J-rod June 18, 2012 at 1:24 pm

What do people think about Collingwood once they get a full strength team. The likes of Swan, Pendles, Sidey, Beams and Shaw. Surely can’t all score 100s every week, will be steeling points off each other.

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 1:38 pm

I think they are scum regardless of where their playing list is at.

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 1:57 pm

So, I take it you’ll be supporting the lesser of two evils in West Coast this week?

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 2:05 pm

I’ll be barracking for a Hawthorn win. Considering the Hawks could very likely finish fourth and I would rather face the Pies in Melbourne than you boys over in the West, a Hawthorn win would be the scum getting the four points this week.

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Ah, so short term pain for long term gain for you.

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DavePies/Flagpies June 18, 2012 at 3:15 pm

How many times have Hawthorn been premiership favourites since 2008? Every year? Didn’t you miss the finals in 2009? Hmm, thought so.. But nah, you did really well in the pre lim last year, good stuff. Hawks are being pumped up after beating North, Port and Brisbane. Give me a break.

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 5:21 pm

Pretty sure Geelong were still well ahead of us in the flag favorite stakes in 2009 as well as 2010 & 11 along with your mob. Not that I liked it, but I think being favorites at the start of this year wasn’t far off the mark considering our NAB form and the fact we almost had a full list get through all of the pre-season. Our form against the top teams since has brought us back to the pack but I’ll still back us for top four.

We have had a couple of other wins this year by the way. Beating the Crows by ten goals was satisfying but we never really hit our straps so it should have been more. Also, it was a while back now, but we had a decent win in RD1. Can you remember who that was we beat FlagMan? Whoever they were I’m sure they will pull out the old reliable injury excuse.

Something else that might jog a Pies supporter’s memory if you want to talk easy wins. Melbourne, Gold Coast, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Port. I reckon you’ve had two decent wins for the year.

And finally yes, being the better side for three quarters then giving up a prelim and getting done by a goal that Luke Ball (who I do rate) will kick once in his career hurt – a lot!

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Actually, one more thing while I’ve got my rant on. Did anyone actually say that Hawthorn would win the flag or should be favorites?

I would almost put money on you being one of the many Collingwood (and Geelong) supporters who are that threatened by Hawthorn that they feel the need to comment on every Hawthorn article on the HS website spouting endlessly about how overated we are. It always comes across as pathetic and scared and if we’re that shit why are you so worried about us?

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underrated June 18, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Not really, Pendles and Swan will be 1st choice in the mids, rest will be forward flankers and rotate with other players

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Sasha June 18, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Hi guys. Now that we have completed over half the sc season and finals loom I am looking to complete my team over next few rounds. What bothers me like last year is guns that are rested in the crucial sc finals which is good time for players to be rested prior to the ‘real’ finals.

My question is what premiums do you think would not
Get a rest in sc finals, my concern is loading on collingwood players and maybe should be looking at the middle of the table for
Sides battling for 8th. Any thoughts on any players that might be Safe from the rest during sc finals? Thanks

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Fishtopher June 18, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Don’t forget sides battling for 4th. The Bombres have a tough run home so I reckon Jobe is a good bet. Sydney while also be thereabouts so Goodesy is worth considering now that he has a big break and once back to 100% should play the year out. I’d give him a few weeks to settle back in though.

The Cats could be fighting for a top four or a top eight spot. Hard to tell. But if they have to settle in the bottom four and the last few games don’t make too much difference I would stay well clear of the likes of Chappy or Bartel late in the year.

The Saints have some big games and will be fighting for eighth so NRoo could be a good bet but with the rate he is going through the world’s ice supplies I just don’t trust his body.

The Tigers will be fighting the whole way and their top end SC relevant players are all young enough to play through. Maric, Lids, Cotchin and even Tuck are good bets there.

The Blues will have to fight it out the whole way and have a couple of soft games with Brisbane RD20 and GC RD22 but personally, Carrots is the only Blue I will even look at.

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Davo June 18, 2012 at 1:59 pm

Cant resist going Treloar to big Clokey this week for only 50K, also bringing Danger in for Milera.

Next week will downgrade Old Mac into Gibo and upgrade T Dickson into Sideass, then will do one more upgrade the following week most likely in the back-line.

This will leave me with a miserly 5 trades only to be used for LT1, I know not enough trades but going for it anyway

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jules June 18, 2012 at 2:02 pm

is Koby stevens a viable downgrade for the mids or will he not get a regualr game? I need the cash!

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jimbo June 18, 2012 at 2:39 pm

If he isn’t getting regular games now with the amount of injuries that Eagles have, why would he start getting them now? So in short no I don’t think will play a regular apperance in the team so not a viable target. Gibson is the only one I can see now (played one game), possible Mitchell later on, and hopefully Couch.

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MJ June 18, 2012 at 3:24 pm

Get Gibson or Crozier Jules. Not many other decent basement priced rookies around at the minute.

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Scotty June 18, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Does anyone know how long Zaharakis is going to be out for? Worth keeping on to?

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underrated June 18, 2012 at 4:24 pm

5-6 weeks, tore quad in training prior to the West Coast game

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jimbo June 19, 2012 at 2:22 pm

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/a/Hibberd-puts-hand-up-for-selection/9437

Reigning best-and-fairest winner David Zaharakis is likely to miss another four weeks after suffering a quad strain during a training session last week.

“It’s a longer term injury and he is still likely to be out for another four weeks, but it provides the opportunity for others to step up and provide the run and pace that we really need in the side,” Hamilton said.

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MJ June 18, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Midfield consists of:
Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Dal Santo, Priddis, Treloar

Looking at upgrading young Adam to a premium midfielder this week and may just go with the best of the best in Dane Swan at $637k. Also like Scott Thompson though at $554k, who’ll drop to ~$535k next week.

Thumbs UP: Spend the money and grab Dane Swan, proven over many years.
Thumbs DOWN: Thompson should provide similar output to Swan and keep $80k in reserve. Snaffle him up with good fixtures in finals.

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 3:53 pm

If you’ve got Joel Selwood, grab Thompson. If you’ve got Scott Selwood, grab Swan.

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Joestar June 18, 2012 at 11:41 pm

In the words of Pauline Hanson’Please explain’?!

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Eagling June 19, 2012 at 10:29 am

Well, Joel will average about 120, Scott will average 110. If you have Scotty, I’d advise spending the extra cash and pick up Swan – he’ll do better in the long run than Thompson.

However, if you have Joel, the money might be better used for an upgrade somewhere else.

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TR June 18, 2012 at 4:39 pm

need some help. last two upgrades for me:
ellis—>r.murphy
ellis—>adcock
ellis—>hurn
or have a doughnut and go ellis—>carrots
and
fwd options? Pav? Zorko?

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 8:28 pm

If you can take the doughnut, Ellis to Carrots just prior to Rnd 15 would be Ellis after another increase & Carrots with a drop.
Bob Murphy looks in great form & is cheap though.

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Grinter June 18, 2012 at 4:44 pm

Currently thinking of going for a full 3-trader this round:

Zaha – Sidebottom
Mohr – Waters
Shiel – Gibson/Couch

Will leave me with 8 trades left with just one FWD spot needing to be upgraded. Giles left as 2nd Ruckman.

T/U – Good trades. Go for it.
T/D – Not so sure about them trades. Hold off / rethink.

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gimmeguitars June 19, 2012 at 12:49 am

I think they’re good trades. Does it leave you with much money left over?

Similar thinking here too, not sure if I will go though with it or not:

Milera –> Sidebottom (I think Saad is showing alot more promise than Milera, but both have been good pickups).
Smith –> Crozier
Shiel –> Waters
Have done this by swinging Deledio into my mids.
$58k in the kitty.
Trades not set in stone -but I was a mere $100 short of what I had planned. Will have another look later in the week. I think the fact my Priddis upgrade last week cost me $9k more than I’d bargained for didn’t help, either.

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Rustee June 18, 2012 at 4:52 pm

With three trades of:

Out – Ellis, Horsley, Milera
In – Rookie (Whiley), Watson, Cloke

It completes my team to give me a team of.

B – Goddard, Deledio, Broughton, Waters, H.Shaw, Heppell, Hargrave
(Whiley, S.Shaw)

C – GAJ, J.Selwood, Watson, Boyd, Dal Santo, Ward
(T.Mitchell, S.Gibson)

R – Goldstein, Giles
(Stephenson, Redden)

F – Franklin, Dangerfield, Sidebottom, O’Keefe, Cloke, D.Stanley, Martin
(Zorko, Couch)

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MJ June 18, 2012 at 6:16 pm

Don’t think Whiley is a good option myself. He was a late inclusion and not in the preferred 22. Would rather grab Crozier from Freo.

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Juddy but not THE Juddy June 19, 2012 at 5:04 am

How many trades do you have left after this Rustee?

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Leo Messi June 18, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Its this time of year where my LTI’s are coming to bite me on the backside…..

As I see all of you with similar trades left and nearly a complete side I still have plenty of gaps that need to be filled….Trades going from 11 to 9 this week….

Horse – Sidey is one….
The other D Smith -

Thumbs up – Dangermouse

Thumbs down – Cloke plus 190k odd

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Lions Den June 18, 2012 at 5:06 pm

A few things on my mind-
1. Curtly Hampton? (in my team, not as a trade in option)
2. Mitch Clark? GWS twice, Gold Coast once, Port once and Brisbane once. Favorable draw and I think is good value, thoughts?
3. Are these good trade options?
Curtly Hampton > Mitch Clark/Boomer Harvey
Kyal Horsley > Sam Gibson (does he have enough job security?)

Feedback would be helpful, Thanks.

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Rocky June 18, 2012 at 5:21 pm

Wouldn’t pick up Clark in my opinion. Won’t be in the top 10 forwards by year’s end and isn’t going to be consistent enough. If you’re looking for a key forward with a good draw, I’d rather bring in Kurt Tippet or even Taylor Walker.

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Lions Den June 18, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Yeah, I thought so myself, what about Boomer? Key forward isn’t necessarily what I want, but the player needs to be <450k and a FWD. (I’ve already got Cloke)

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Matteo June 18, 2012 at 5:44 pm

Out trelor jmac and Morris. In waters m Johnson and gibson

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Paul June 18, 2012 at 6:00 pm

With 2 trades of
Out: zaha, treloar
In: Pavlich, Cloke leaves me with 6 trades and this what it looks like

Def: Deledio, Goddard, Broughton,Birchall, Shaw, Suckling, Malceski ( darley) ( Ellis)

Mid: Ablett, Watson, Pendlebury, Stanton, Boyd, Priddis ( Adams) ( Couch)

Ruck: Kreuzer, Giles ( Stephenson) (redden)

Forward: Franklin,Sidebottom, Dangerfield,Pavlich,Martin, Cloke, Zorko (Dickson) (sexton)

Thumbs up: Coming along nicely good team
Thumbs down: Waste of trades and crap team

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benno June 18, 2012 at 6:02 pm

Look I know its not a terrible team, but I know its not great. Only got a few trades left, looking to bring in a Premium ruck soon, besides that team is set. There are a lot of things i would do differently next time but overall i think its not a bad team for my first season, looking to hopefully get top 20,000 atleast, but try and push into top 15,000

Ranking: 16,856

Backs:
Deledio, Goddard, Rance, Suckling, Birchall, Adcock, Yarren
(Smedts, Darley)

Mids:
GAJ, Watson, Stanton, JPK, Pendles, Rockliff
(Gibson, Ledger)

Rucks:
Kreuzer, Redden
(Big O, Pattison)

Forwards:
Franklin, Beams, Sidebottom, Chapman, Dangerfield, Cloke, Zorko
(Cameron, Pfeiffer)

Backs: Decided to get the essentials Goddard, Deledio. Fallen premiums Yarren, Suckling, Birchall and then a few POD’s Adcock and Rance. Not huge scorers this year in the backs that is why I decided to take more risks with a bit of a ‘POD Backline’ then focus on getting high scoring premiums in the other positions.

Midfield: Got most of the top midfielders and Rockliff as my POD, been disappointed with Stanton but hopefully he comes good in the second half of the season. Besides that very happy with my mids, only worry is bench cover.

Rucks: Position that is worrying me the most. Kreuzer is doing ok but not great. Hopefully atleast on of Big O and Redden can get a game over the next few rounds until I bring in a premium.

Forwards: Got 5 of the top scoring forwards, along with Cloke who I think is a bargain, and Zorko looks to be a keeper. Pretty happy with my bench cover as well in this position.

Thumbs up- Pretty good team benno
Thumbs down- Terrible, don’t like it at all
Any comments would be good as well, thanks :)

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jimbo June 19, 2012 at 10:50 am

Good team everything you have said I agree with, you need another premium ruck, try get the top scorer maybe Nic Nat or Maric. If everything goes well and all your players go good you could win the weekly $1K easily, I wouldn’t want to come up against this team. As you have said the only problem is bench cover which could really hurt you with late withdrawls and injuries. You also don’t have M/F DPP which could also hinder you later in the year if people get rested. If Gibson can get some consistent games, make you $200K, then Couch comes in you could open that DPP link for the finals and have some cash

Yarran should bounce back, Adcock and Stanton will always be up and down, and hopefully for your sake and my SCTTL team Cloke can bounce back and sign a contract and get his average up to 100. Zorko does look good and he is a mature age rookie but like Horesly and others playing AFL it is very taxing so hopefully he can keep his good scores up.

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benno June 19, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Thanks jimbo, wow I dunno about the $1000 but I would like to :D thanks for commenting really helps and gave me a bit more confidence with my team especially being my first season.

Yeah looking to bring in a premium ruck a week or two after the byes, maybe round 15, or once Redden or Big O stop getting games, but hopefully they can hold out for a few weeks and get games. Waiting for Cameron and/or Pfieffer to reach there price peak and might trade them for a ruck.

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benno June 18, 2012 at 6:20 pm

Cloke?

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Nick June 18, 2012 at 6:47 pm

No contract, no cloke imo :P

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Dazz June 19, 2012 at 2:46 pm

I wouldnt get Cloke but IMO Cloke is a way better option than Boomer he has four tons this year and two of em have been against GC and GWS take those 2 scores away and it doesnt say much about Boomers average….

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Nick June 19, 2012 at 4:31 pm

I’d prefer christensen or lewis, but christensen would leave me with 3 cats in the fwd line and lewis has a bye and is a worry if/when hodge comes back

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Dazz June 19, 2012 at 4:55 pm

I wouldnt go any where near Christenson Ave 83.86 and hasnt played since round 7. IMO a waste of trade bringin him in.

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 6:16 pm

With Giles’s Calf Complaint, I am considering trading him out.

The plan I like the most looks like this.

Giles out – Hale into the Rucks.
Kennedy out – Tomlinson into the forward line.
Treloar out – Adams into the forward line.

Gibson into the middle, Adcock into Defence, M Johnson into FWDS.

This gives me a bench of Ellis/S Shaw. Shiel/Gibson. Redden/Jenkins. Tomlinson/Smedts. Pretty weak up forward.

And a team of
Deledio, Adcock, Broughton, Scotland, Goddard, Golby, Clarke.
Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, Shuey, Priddis, Dal Santo.
Cox, Hale.
Dangerfield, Martin, Harvey, M Johnson, Franklin, Zorko, Adams.

Only $200 and 7 trades left.

Thumbs up if you like this option for round 14 and beyond.
Thumbs down if you do not.

I’ll be hoping to move Johnson into the backline once Ellis reaches his max, and swap Adams back into the middle once Shiel is ready to be flicked. Hopefully then I could downgrade/upgrade Tomlinson and Smedts.

Also might want to upgrade Hale, but only if everything else is running smoothly and I have the trade to spare. Looking out for Murphy and Fyfe as strengtheners before the finals; although they’ll not be a priority.

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jimbo June 19, 2012 at 12:01 am

Sheeds says he’s back this week, I think it was just a rest so he can ruck for the rest of the year.

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Yiorgakis June 19, 2012 at 12:42 am

I’ll be keeping Giles until finals. 94 average will do just fine!

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 6:32 pm

Our good friend Scotty won’t be beaming us up on Saturday; as his sidelining stint is expected to be extended into Round 15.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I use the agonising misfortune of an innocent individual to poke fun at your Bye Round Supercoach woes! Can’t rely on the Pendleman to pull you out of the ditch and over the stumbling block now!

You thought he’d be back, didn’t you! You wrapped his leg in cotton wool and laid him down on your cold, unforgiving bench, whilst he fended off Kennedy and Smedts begging for his autograph, and moodily sighed as the Wizard turned his backyard into a safari.

Well, at least he and GAJ will do whatever champions do as they watch the mere mortals…Kyal, what is that? Yeah, we get it. Stop horsing around.

So in conclusion,
Scotty’s still out,
Until Round 15,
I’ve the allusion,
He’s catching trout,
and splitting my spleen.

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Eagling June 19, 2012 at 7:25 pm

I know how it feels, dislikers. Well, he’ll be back at some point. Hope the lad has a smooth recovery.

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gimmeguitars June 19, 2012 at 11:17 pm

I’ll have what he’s having, looks like fun… :P

J/k eagling! ;)

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Chino June 18, 2012 at 6:33 pm

Have been playing around with a few trades but cant find any worthwhile. I know with a 29 ranking i should be pushing hard but the only trades i can find as keepers have the bye this week. Think im gonna hold firm on my 7 remaining trades and cop four donughts this week.

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Andy B June 18, 2012 at 8:41 pm

Good call Chino, some real bargains coming up. May as well try & stay in top 50 & use trades wisely. It must be great to get up there. How many points from the leader are you?

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Catta June 18, 2012 at 10:57 pm

He’s 392 off the pace Andy!

Definitely within reach!

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MTO June 18, 2012 at 6:35 pm

Here is my team:

Backs: Deledio, Goddard, Waters, Johnson, Rance, Ellis, Shaw.

Mids: Ablett, Mitchell, Boyd, Redden, Hayes, Masten.

Rucks: Cox, Giles.

Forwards: Franklin, Sidebottom, Dangerfield, Beams, Tippett/Pavlich, Martin, Zorko.

I’m not sure who to take out of Tippett and Pavlich yet but any feedback or ratings will be helpful, cheers.

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Dazz June 19, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Id go Tip Truck with a pretty easy run home he should pull out some huge scores run home is: Kanga’s,Tigers,Power,GWS,Eagles,Cats,Bombers,Dockers,Lions, Demons,Gold Coast.

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shields June 18, 2012 at 7:00 pm

Im thinking;
cash in Treloar to Gibson, Crozier.

Then next week when bugg price rise( BE 30);
Bugg to Scotland?

Thumbs UP or Down?

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MJ June 18, 2012 at 7:08 pm

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/138873/default.aspx

Terrible news, albeit slightly expected.

Also…
Didak only 2 weeks away? I was under the impression he’d be out til just before finals, so I ditched him last week (the week after I traded him in!).

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Callan June 18, 2012 at 7:09 pm

I am filling my final midfield spot this week and was planning on getting Pendles but he will probably miss the next 2 weeks. I was going to upgrade Horsley to him to avoid a donut (currently having 2 planned donuts this round plus maybe D.Smith, which means 3). I can either wait on Pendles for two weeks and get another donut (4 donuts all up) or upgrade Horsley to another gun midfielder in Watson and avoid an extra donut.
What should I do?

TU – Upgrade Horsley to Watson and get 2-3 donuts this week.
TD – Get Pendles after 2 weeks and cop 3-4 donuts.

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MJ June 18, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Thinking of making the just the two changes this week:
Giles > Pattison (94k RUC/FWD)
Treloar > Swan

Leaves this team:
Deledio, Goddard, Broughton, Lake, Clarke, Ellis, Shaw
Spurr, Yagmoor

Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, J.Selwood, Priddis, Dal Santo
McDonald, Gibson

Cox, Mumford
Redden, Pattison

Franklin, Chapman, Pavlich, O’Keefe, Martin, Harvey, Zorko
Adams, Pfeiffer

8 Trades remaining. $345,100 in the bank.

Remaining trades to be implemented just prior to Rd 15
Ellis > Carrazzo
Shaw/Spurr > Fisher
$345,100 should cover those two moves and will leave 6 trades for LTIs.

I’m happy to have Clarke as D7 and Zorko as F7.
Buying Pattison gives me the option of grabbing Roughead in the forwards and swinging him into the rucks at a later date if a short term injury arises to Cox/Mumford and Redden is dropped.

Hows it looking SCT community?

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Leo Messi June 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Looks real good MJ….

Only thing I would suggest is waiting another week or two if you can and if Giles is playing for Mummys back…Just to ensure that its 100% before you leave yourself short of a premuim ruck and need to rush Roughy in…

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MJ June 19, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Reckon you might be right there Leo. Love your input mate, appreciate it.
May trade Pfeiffer > Crozier instead of the Giles downgrade this week, saving a donut in the process.

Will then do Giles > Pattison in a week or two, which will give me $532,100 in order to trade:

Ellis > Carrazzo
Spurr > Fisher

which still leaves $120k left over for a Zorko > Dangerfield/Goodes trade just prior to SC finals.

Will have the final team looking like:
Deledio, Goddard, Broughton, Carrazzo, Fisher, Lake, Clarke
S.Shaw, Yagmoor

Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, J.Selwood, Priddis, Dal Santo
McDonald, Gibson

Cox, Mumford
Redden, Pattison

Franklin, Dangerfield/Goodes, Chapman, Pavlich, O’Keefe, Martin, Harvey
Adams, Crozier

4 trades for injuries.

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J. Gillard June 18, 2012 at 7:43 pm

Since the start of the season Tom Couch has been sitting on my forward bench. Every week I think he’s a chance to be selected but Mark Neeld continues to leave him in the VFL.
Should I sub him into the midfield and straight swap for Gibson who seems to have secured a spot, or hold onto him in the hope that Neeld gives him a run.

T/U: Keep him, he’ll get his chance soon.
T/D: Neeld won’t play him this year, trade to Gibson.

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jimbo June 19, 2012 at 12:13 am

Gibson is far from secured his spot I watched the game and he seemed somewhat out of his depth against Gold Coast, probably nerves. Brad Scott is an annoying coach also killing us last year with Richardson. In saying that if he plays well this week and named on the bubble next week get him in as I definately will. He has only played one game, he has another till the bubble so everyone WAIT A WEEK ON GIBSON if you can otherwise you might waste two trades getting him in then out.

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The Hock June 18, 2012 at 7:48 pm

I only have eight trades remaining and am low on cash.
So I’m thinking this week:

Hayes -> Watson
Smith -> Gibson
Hall -> Crozier
These two rookie trades are to create money for final upgrades, however five trades is very short for the ten remaining rounds….

DEF – DELEDIO, GODDARD, BROUGHTON, BIRCHALL, BUGG, SHAW – ELLIS, SMEDTS
Looking at Carrazzo in the next week and one more upgrade later on.

MID – MITCHELL, SELWOOD, KENNEDY, PRIDDIS, HAYES, ZORKO – HORSLEY SMITH,

RUC – ROUGHEAD, GILES – ORREN, REDDEN
Would like to upgrade to Naitanui in this line.

FOR – CHAPMAN, SIDEBOTTOM, N.RIEWOLDT, TIPPETT, DANGERFIELD, MILERA – HALL, BLACK

Would like to move Zorko to the Forward line as F7 as he is a quality player and I would prefer another premium mid than forward.

My problems are low amounts of cash and minimal trades and I would still like upgrades in -
Defence (2) – Mid (1) – Ruck (1) so that means I will be extremely tight on trades..

Anyone have any ideas that I could finish my upgrades whilst saving trades and having enough money to make those trades – I sure know that the trades I have listed above will not help and I will have to change!

Cheers!

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MJ June 18, 2012 at 10:36 pm

Hall > Crozier is a good move, getting Zorko to F7 and Crozier to M7.
If you’re desperate for Naitanui I’d recommend getting him in this week as his price is set to skyrocket with that 185 in his system, but with so few trades left, Giles may have to become your R2 keeper.

I think you’ve got other priorities than to be trading out Lenny Hayes too. I’d rather see Horsley be upgraded to a premium. I’d be happy keeping Hayes as M6, especially with so few trades left.

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iasjfdfd June 21, 2012 at 9:33 am

Where is Ablett???

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J. Gillard June 18, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Who to bring in for horsley?

T/U: watson
T/U: j. selwood
comment any other options you think are better please

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Jester June 18, 2012 at 8:56 pm

This week I am considering completing my midfield, ruck and forward line.

JMac > SWAN (could get Thompson cheap but if Dane explodes I want in)
Treloar > S.JACOBS (Roughnut into fwd line. Planned to do this later with Hall but I am shaky on Treloar after Saturday).

This leaves me with 7 trades and 5K. My biggest problem is down back with Hargrave at D6 and Morris at D7. I have Suckling/Carrazzo in my sights but that will mean two more trades (down and then up).

Thoughts?

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gimmeguitars June 18, 2012 at 9:02 pm

Kinda annoyed I’m only 100 Dollars short of

Bugg –> Waters
Milera –> Sidebottom
Devon Smith –> Crozier

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 9:16 pm

Ze consideration of Gibson if ze can move ze midfield MPP into ze forward line?

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gimmeguitars June 18, 2012 at 10:42 pm

I already ‘as ‘im… ;)

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Eagling June 18, 2012 at 10:43 pm

Thou hast the issues, then.

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D-Man June 18, 2012 at 9:12 pm

Who do you think will be better long term
J.McDonald T/U
D.Shiel T/D

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jimbo June 19, 2012 at 12:17 am

Sheeds has come out and said McDonald will only play a handful of games this year, trying to nurse him through the season while playing the kids to get experince. Shiel very highly rated kid and scores very well. Although keep McDonald for at least this week as he will probably kill Melbourne to get back at them for dropping him

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Catta June 18, 2012 at 11:40 pm

Hey SCT coaches,

I’m thinking these trades…..
Morris out, move Gooddard back to defense & Gibson in
Milera out, Pavlich in

T/U………..Solid trades Catta, go for it
T/D………..Save your trades

Cheers coaches

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Murphster June 19, 2012 at 9:19 am

Any suggestions for my team? Got 11 trades left and $108k left

Deledio Goddard Birchall Lake Malceski Bugg Dempsey
Spurr S.Shaw

Ablett Swan Pendlebury Hayes Boyd J.McDonald
D.Smith T.Adams

Natanui Giles
Redden Stephenson

Franklin Sidebottom Dangerfield Martin Zaharakis Treloar Zorko
Smedts Hall

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MJ June 19, 2012 at 10:14 am

Here’s some options for you:
Treloar > Cloke (only $50k exchanged)
D. Smith > Gibson (leaves $256k in bank)
McDonald > S.Thompson/J.Kennedy ($577k to spend on a gun midfielder)

Gets rid of 3 rookies in exchange for 2 premiums.

Of course, if you wanted to save an extra donut you could trade Hall out instead of Smith, but you won’t have as much for that JMac upgrade.

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Roo Bloke June 19, 2012 at 11:05 am

Thinking of a triple trade:

Have 300K in the bank so can upgrade 3 rookies into two stars.

Treloar – Hall – A Kennedy
into
Sidebottom – Cloke – S Gibson

Thumbs up – like
Thumbs down – better options, use of trades, etc…

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gavsta June 19, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Which of these 3 to bring in to the last spot in my midfield.
JPK (BE 148) Stanton (146) or Scott Thompson (149)? Should I wait one more week?

Also any news on Paul Duffield getting back into the team?

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Juddy but not THE Juddy June 19, 2012 at 1:51 pm

I am having the same dilemma gavsta. ATM I have Thommo but am leaning ever so slightly back towards JPK. All this has come about because I fall 5k short of Swan ;-)

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MJ June 19, 2012 at 3:12 pm

Just checked out Swan’s stats in terms of Rd1-12 v Rd13-onwards over his last 3 seasons.

Year: Ave Rd1-12, Ave Rd13-onwards
2009: 116.3, 131.5
2010: 119.7, 135.5
2011: 115.7, 127.6
2012: 123.6, ____

On average, Swan has scored 14.3 points higher in the 2nd half of the season, projecting his 2012 Rd13-onwards average to be 137.9ppg.

On this evidence, I’m trading Swan in this week at all costs.

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gavsta June 19, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Already have Swan.
My midfield at the moment is GAJ, Swan, Boyd, Dal Santo, Sloane, Zorko.

Will move zorko into the FWDs. i think i might get JPK seeing i already have a Crow in Sloane

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Dazz June 19, 2012 at 5:06 pm

Impressive stats MJ but what year did he start going to Airazona? just remember he didnt go this year so his avg my not be as good as previous years although i still think his worth bringin in.

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Fishtopher June 19, 2012 at 5:10 pm

I’m with you MJ. Hopefully with a lot of people already having Pendles or waiting for his price to drop again Swanny might have a bit of POD value as well.

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Nick June 19, 2012 at 5:31 pm

J.Selwood

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gavsta June 19, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Any news on Paul Duffield? Time to give him the flick?

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Benny June 19, 2012 at 5:03 pm

T/u: beams
T/d: sidebottom

Who do I get?

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Dazz June 19, 2012 at 5:09 pm

I would go SideBum Benny

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Gooby pls June 19, 2012 at 9:55 pm

flip a coin

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benno June 19, 2012 at 10:08 pm

Take your pick, can’t go wrong with either, I couldn’t decide so i went with both haha been very pleased with them both :)

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MTO June 19, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Motts, could you please put up a poll for Tippett, Pavlich, Rioli, Bennell and Roughead.

Thanks.

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Nick June 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm

I realise that Mumford still has a long way to fall, but I’m considering sandi>mummy and shiel>pavlich/M.Johnson (in fwds), as it allows me to get a better fwd than sandi>nicnat and a fwd at 450k or lower.
Thumbs Up: Mummy and Pav/M.Johnson
Thumbs Down: NicNat and 450k fwd

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Andy B June 19, 2012 at 7:22 pm

Nick, Nic Nat over Mummy for my money. If you don’t have him, how about Nic Nat & Cloke? Or Nic Nat & Rioli (if you want to wait a week & hope that Shiel goes up this week.

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Yiorgakis June 19, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Rustee, Pendles is another dagger in my side. If my team was a horse, it’d be put down this week. You’ve already one this week’s LOEC1 clash. Well done.

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Angusegg June 19, 2012 at 7:49 pm

Who do you think i should keep as my D7?
Marty Clarke (UP) or Brandon Ellis/Sam Shaw (DOWN)
The Marty Clarke trade would free up extra cash but could lead to a zero maybe
What do you think?

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Angusegg June 19, 2012 at 7:53 pm

ROK (UP) or Paul Chapman (DOWN)

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PA June 19, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Three trades for PA this week, will leave PA with 5 trades for the remainder thanks mainly due to 6 LTI’s thus far :mad: .

Shiel :arrow: Thompson
Milera :arrow: Pav
Treloar :arrow: Crozier

Team would be:
Lids, BJ, Broughton, Birchall, Heater, Lakey, Clarke
Darley, Shaw
GAJ, NDS, Joelwood, Thompson, Priddis, Griffen
Zorko, Sexton
Goldy, Giles, Big O, Redden
Buddy, Stevie J, Robbo, Beams, Pav, Cloke, JRoo
Cameron, Crozier
Have $108K left in the kitty for a rainy day.

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Simon June 19, 2012 at 10:58 pm

I would use the 108k for Mileria to Sidebum. He is just killing it!

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Thomas June 19, 2012 at 9:46 pm

Hi could do with some help, down to 5 trades after a few poor first year desicions and injuries but its starting to take some shape, however it could still do with some improvements. My team looks like this:
D: deledio, goddard, hurn, bugg, glass, dempsey, shaw (ellis, smedts)
M: Kennedy, Thompson, Sidebottom, Beams, Priddis, Treloar (Horsley, Neale)
R: natanui, pyke (redden, stephensen)
F: franklin, dangerfield, johnson, rioli, pearce, walker, porplyzia (cameron, adams)

Also have 56k. Was thinking of moving treloar for gibson this week, but then what? feel like i need an ablett, swan or pendlebury to have someone to trust as captain every week, but at the same time have a weak backline. Please help!

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Simon June 19, 2012 at 10:54 pm

More than 5 trades needed there. No chance of a full team. I would do the Treloar trade and Horsely to Watson. Then IDK!! Sorry.

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MJ June 19, 2012 at 11:08 pm

Yeah mate, with only 5 trades left you’re going to have to think about shutting up shop and save those 5 for injuries between now and the end of the season.

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pump June 19, 2012 at 11:22 pm

u need a good ruck..maybe try mummy next week

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jmac June 19, 2012 at 10:01 pm

hey, what do people think of Burgoyne? or is suckling a better option for your 6th or 7th back?

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Simon June 19, 2012 at 10:44 pm

This will be my starting squad for the start of Round 14 all going well.

Lids, Goddard, Birchal, Scotland*, Carrots*, Enright, Broughton(Shaw, Darley)

Mitchell, Thompson, Sloane, Rockliff, Judd, Beams(Gibson*, Couch*)

NicNat*, Kruze(Redden, BigO)

Buddy, StevieJ, Robbo, Martin, Danger, Sidebum, Darling(Zorko, Crozier)

The * are the players that I plan to trade in in the next 5 trades.

The main one I want to get right is the Ruck as I think The Blue Boys will be solid. Only having 1 real good rook in the mid/fwd DPP in Zork but I’m confident I wont need anymore.

So T/u – Nicnat
T/d – Cox

I want one of them as they dominate. Please fell free to comment on others but I cant afford the Mullet.

Cheers!!

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MJ June 19, 2012 at 11:01 pm

Your backline is all class once Carrots and Scotland get in there. Just feel you may be lacking a few big names in the guts. Without any of these guys: Swan, Pendlebury, Ablett, J.Selwood or Watson your midfield won’t be nearly as strong as others and captain choice becomes harder for your mob because of it.

Out of the two eagles ruckmen, I’d have to go with NicNat over Cox (although I have the latter).

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No Name June 19, 2012 at 11:07 pm

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Backs:
Deledio, Goddard, Broughton, H.Shaw, Waters, Lake, S.Shaw (Bugg, Spurr)

Mids:
Ablett, Pendles, Watson, J.Selwood, Thompson, Priddis (Shiel, Horsely)

Rucks:
Cox, Giles (Big O, Redden)

Forwards:
Franklin, Sidebottom, Martin, Porplyzia, Zorko, Treloar, Pfeiffer (Adams, Sexton)

I have 9 trades left and $272k.
I know that I have to do a lot with my forward line and I wanted to go Pfeiffer>Chapman but I was $400 off.
Any help at all would be great!
Thanks

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MJ June 19, 2012 at 11:28 pm

Consider:
Shiel > Crozier to open up MID/FWD DPP link and make a bucket load of cash (Trade Horsley if you’re desperate to save a donut, but Shiel will make you an extra $63k)

This will allow Treloar and Pfeiffer to be traded to ANY premium forwards you’d like as you’ll have nearly $1.2mil to spread between two guns, but consider saving a bit in reserve for a Porplyzia/Bugg upgrade next week.

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Gooby pls June 20, 2012 at 1:46 am

Your in great shape there mate, would look at going treloar to crozier and shiel to gibson, then with the bucketload of cash you can really solidify every spot with 2 or 3 more trades such as (without calculations but should be fine) pfieffer and adams to dangerfield and beams(or any other two premiums), and i think you might have enough for bugg to carrazzo or even scotland. Wow im jealous of your position!

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No Name June 20, 2012 at 10:07 pm

Thanks so much MJ and gooby pls! I really appreciate both of your posts and your suggestions

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BigRuss June 20, 2012 at 1:28 pm

Ok lads it’s upgrade time. I need 2 forwards with a combined total of less then 910k. Already have Buddy, Chappy, Dusty and Cloke.

Really struggling with this one, At the moment I’ve gone with Tippet and Boomer. Not completely sold on either though. These are 2 of my last 3 upgrades Bringing Gaz back in next week.

My completed team will be as follows:

BJ Lids Shaw Birch Scotland Broughton Lake
( Darley Shaw )

Pendles Swan Gaz Jellwood JPK Priddis
( Gibson Smith )

Roughy Giles
( Redden BigO )

Buddy Chappy Dusty Cloke Tippet Boomer Adams
( D.Smith Smedts )

4 Trades left, Not ideal I know.

Really struggling with the forward upgrades.

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Dolan June 21, 2012 at 12:42 am

seems silly to reccomend zorko now but he still has such a low b/e and in red hot form that i think to take him and dangerfield(sidebottom if you can, but think you might be about 1k short!) wouldnt be the worst option. you could go with patton and get that extra cash if youd prefer to trade someone else out rather than the ones youve selected to reach that 910 figure..?

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Scotty June 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm

So I am trading out Zaharakis this week and am a bit stumped as to who.

THUMBS UP – Beams
THUMBS DOWN – Cloke + $200k

Or should go for a risk and pick up Goodes?
Current FWD: Franklin, Sidebottom, Dangerfield, Chapman, ?, Martin, Zorko (Pfeiffer, Smedts)

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Jase June 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm

I find it amazing how many people seem to burn through trades. I have 14 remaining and I think Im a little bit light on. You need at least 6 trades come finals time. Maybe those people that are using there trades dont believe they will make finals??

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MJ June 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm

I’d love to have a look at your team Jase. (I’m guessing you’ll still have quite a few rookies on the field). The idea of using trades quickly is that you want to have full team of premiums as quick as possible to get maximum points as early as you can. Once you’ve got a full squad of guys who will average ~100+ you won’t need any more trades, except for injuries. Jay To, the guy who won the $50,000 last year had only 2 trades left after Rd 14.

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Fishtopher June 20, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Been a lot of LTIs this year Jase and if your in a league that’s pretty competitive a lot of trades have been unavoidable to stay up around the eight.

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Dolan June 21, 2012 at 12:32 am

why do you need 6 for finals? shouldnt your team be set by finals?

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gavsta June 20, 2012 at 4:04 pm

Already asked this but any news on Duffield? cant wait that extra days for the teams

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Angusegg June 20, 2012 at 4:39 pm

Who should I trade to get in Michael Johnson?
Marty Clarke (UP) or Brandon Ellis (DOWN)

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Adam June 20, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Which one should I KEEP(both same price and BE)
Thumbs up Taylor Adams
Thumbs Down Darren Ptfeifer

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Max June 21, 2012 at 4:00 am

Overseas so havent been following the site 24/7 as I am used to doing when im in Aus. So I would love some ideas and suggestions on what trades do to with my team. I have a rough idea of some likely trades, but I wouldn’t mind seeing what people would do if they were in my situation.

I need to trade out Sandi out this week obviously, trade in preference would be NicNat or Jacobs. I also ideally want to hold Zaharakis as word going around is that he may be back sooner than first expected.

This is my team at its strongest, with 10 trades left and $254,700 to spend:

B: Goddard, Deledio, H.Shaw, Birchall, Lake, Clarke, Golby (S. Shaw, Ellis)

M: Ablett, Pendles, Selwood, Dal Santo, Rockliff, Priddis (Adams, Horsley)

R- Sandilands Giles (Redden, Big O)

F- Franklin, Sidebottom, Martin, Hale, Zorko, Porplyzia, Cameron (Zaharakis, Hall)

May also be worth noting that I am going for the league wins but would also like to keep a strong overall ranking.
Cheers

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jimbo June 21, 2012 at 9:24 am

This week go Sandi – Nic Nat

Next week go Horsely – Gibson if he gets his third game (still not set on his JS, if you are then do it this week).

Rd 15: Clarke and Golby – Carrazo and Fisher (finished backline)

Porps – Beams sometime when you have the cash, you will probably need another downgrade target maybe Couch?

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J.C June 21, 2012 at 4:40 am

Thoughts on my only trade this week.

Milera > Cloke for F7

Thumbs up – Solid trade for the F7 position

Thumbs down – Better options for 396k

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Ash June 21, 2012 at 7:55 am

have 8 trades left..

i need to use 3 to get swan (i think i could survive with 5 trades for rest of the season)

if i were to use 3, i would prolly get gibson(how is his job security?). but i dont know about the other one :S (if you could suggest one that would be great)

alternatively i could go for thompson or boyd (using 2 trades for either – but scoring potential is a lot less..) my captain atm is ablett, other premium mids are dal santo, mitchell (those 3 not playing) and josh p kennedy. i want a reliable, high scoring premium and a reliable captain for this week.

TU: For Swan (and let me know the 2nd rookie if thats ok- i have shaw but not the other ones)
TD: For Boyd or Thompson (let me know which one if possible)

Thanks a lot of the help guys, much appreciated.

ps, i really want/need this week’s win! i only have 3 wins for the season :’( and i guess swan is good in the long run as well, can trust him for 120+ scores for rest of the year.
oh and if i trade in gibson and swan, i’d have 285,300 to spend if i trade out hall from my forward line.. thoughts??? then my team is complete!

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Andy B June 21, 2012 at 8:02 am

Heath Scotland’s lawyers have been given 14 days to speak to NSW police. Good delaying tactic. Gut feeling after reading this article is a plea bargain or minor charge.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/magpie-flies-through-court-in-carlton-footballer-heath-scotlands-assault-case/story-fn7x8me2-1226402716108

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4points June 22, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Hi guys,
Have a dilema – I want to trade A.Hall up to a prem fwd but i can’t decide who,
Currently have Sidey, Martin, Franklin, Pav, danger, and Zorko, tossing up between beams and chapman (or even goodes as a possibility, though a little risky)
T/U – beams
T/D – Chappy

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Eagling June 19, 2012 at 10:22 am

Tom Couch of the Demons, a rookie priced FWD/MID DPP in Supercoach.

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