Back into the thick of league competition this week. Hawks have the bye, Ablett questionable, plenty of players not pulling their weight… Who are you thinking of trading out and in?
Trade Talk R17
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Anyone notice that izzy falou is kicking 4-5 goals most weeks?
Good signs for next year.
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Be a good F7, F8 next year?
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Risky.
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I know you can only beat the opposition on the park but did anyone notice who the opposition was last week? It was the Brisbane Lions reserves who are rock bottom stone cold motherless last in the Northern Divison of the NEAFL. Stick him in the SANFL or VFL and see how many goals he gets, let alone the AFL.
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Watched him last week up against NT Thunder and was Ok. Good on the lead and in the air, but very poor when the ball is at ground level. Looked lost. Still also twice the size of anyone in the Giants team. Worked hard around the ground and didnt cramp up like our friend Karmichael.
A couple of other kids to keep your eye on form the Giants:
Jeremy Cameron – Took a couple of great contested marks, looks a key position prospect in years to come.
Sam Shulz – Threw himself into every contest, always looking for the hard ball.
Kurt Aylett – Played out of the backline and often entrusted with the kick-outs. Nice long, direct kick on him.
A few other to impress were Gerald Ugle, Curtly Hampton and Sam Darley. Will be interesting to see how they all progress, especially with a few bigger bodies around them next year.
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Shaun Edwards? Or is he a rookie? All I heard was that he won the NTFL Best’n'Fairest/Brownlow type thing or whatever…
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Hey Sainter, Shaun did play. Didnt see too much of him but I know he is highly regarded in the territory. NT Thunder was upset to lose him to GWS so he’s obvioulsy got a future. I think he’s only 17, not sure where that leaves him in terms of the draft or status with the Giants.
Like the suns, they’ve certainly got some talent there, just whether they can be competitive against bigger, experienced bodies.
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Thanks Stocky, heaps for all that!
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Ratten out and I am a swans man. Worst coach I have witnessed. Bower in the forward line and Henderson on Barry?? Wow. As I am the supercoach of my team, Jack R is on the block with question mark also on Rawlings
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he coached pretty well against the swannies….twice….
Doggies played awesome, and blues were pretty average. FWD line completely broke down. Loosing Waite again didnt help! Henderson was playing back on barry cause week before he played down there on JROO and did well….not that the ball went down there that much in that game! Walker and waite, gartlett and eddie have been killing it some games and then others its like there not even there! horrible effort.
Just hope we can pull ourselves together for this weekend! huge game for us
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Henderson did a fair job on J-Roo last week so you can understand Ratten’s confidence in him on BBB but Bower was played out of position and I can’t fathom it.
The Blues are a little hamstrung with injuries at the moment after sailing through the first half of the season pretty much unscathed.
I reckon its going to get ugly this week…
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Bower is completely outa form at the moment as well. And think Ratten not sure where to play him. But we need him back to his best, and down back!
Huge game this week and we have a hard run home Mottsy
Pies, Bombers, NTH Melb, Melb, Freo (in perth), Hawks, STKILDA!
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Warnock and Kruezer were dreadful also….especially Warnock. Hudson just kept grabbing it out of the ruck and doing what he wants with it.
We have noone that can take overhead marks especially in our forward 50.
Forward press non existant
Hendo should have been tried at some stage in the fwd line. He tried Bower and Thornton there.
It was another statement game that we failed in IMO.
I agree Motts next week could get ugly. We did this last year start well and have a dreadful second half to the season but surely we are playing better football this year.
Lets see how it all unfolds
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This weekend is gonna hurt. Have a few hawks players, Suckling, Hodge, Franklin and Smith. And with GAJ out as well, thats a lot of holes i have to fill! Will keep GAJ if its only a few weeks. But not sure what ill do if he’s out more than 4….
JROO has to go but not sure if it will be this week.
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Fair job on J Roo? That’s the most goals he has kick in about 12 rounds surely? He pretty much kicked tigers score while being out of form. I’m just shitty because I have tickets this week. Wanted a bigger build up. I also think hampson is better ruck option because he can mark in the fwd line. I just don’t get ratten at all. Bower in the fwd line is crazy.
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I think walker playing fwd all this year has hurt Betts too. You blue boys agree?
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Ill only cop 2 weeks with GAJ, any more and its a swap for swan and Ill pocket the spare 90k
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how can anyone wanna trade gaj!!!
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SuperCoach Tip
If Gary Ablett is out for any amount of weeks KEEP HIM ON YOUR BENCH!!!
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No matter how long ablett is out for, I’m not trading him. Even if it’s 4 weeks, I’d rather them be cautious and him be fully fit for our finals, than him try to get back too soon and re injure himself.
Mind you if it’s anymore than 6 he’s gone!
Looks like only a few, but we will have to wait and see!
Oh and no trades for me this week.
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GC SUNS are hopeful Gary Ablett will be available to play against Richmond on Saturday in Cairns. Scans this afternoon cleared Ablett of any structural damage to the knee he injured during the first quarter of Saturday night’s match against the Sydney Swans at Metricon Stadium.
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Hope he doesn’t do a Sandi
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Which game will Heppell get rested?
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Round 24.
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“but we don’t know what game”, you just answered your own question.
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Might be time to get the soap ready
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I thought it was a fair question Daniel, chin up! I already traded him so not that fussed
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Same. To Swan
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Ablett -> NDS – Thumbs Up
Ablett -> Boyd- Thumbs Down
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DON’T TRADE ABLETT!
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I’m very happy to welcome back Joel Selwood back into my team this week (from off the bench). As they say in racing parlons he’ll be “champing at the bit” to rip out a huge score. I’m strongly considering making him captain this week. The hairs on the back of my neck are starting to stand up already!
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You are a patient man to hold him for so long. I hope he has a cracker for you!
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I hear they also say that in racing parlance!
Don’t worry Hairy Cat, I’m not one of those sticklers for correcting spelling mistakes, but thought you’d rather know that for next time.
Love the consistent metaphors!
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Good call. This site needs a spell checker
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Trivia question: who was the last team to play Richmond and then not lose the next week they played?
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Pies.
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We give teams a false sense of superiority. I was at the ‘G for the last two, 5 quarters of pathetic football from 8 is not enjoyable to watch.
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Kangas believe it or not
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Correct.
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Who to bring into midfield?
Current mid
GAJ, Swan, Pend, S Thompson,Cotchin, Heppell, Krak (Mzungu, Smith, hibberd)
Think of trading Krak for Priddis or Hodge
Thumbs up Priddis
Thumbs down Hodge
Or welcome any other comments.
Thanks
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Hawks have bye this week so maybe Priddis
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Hey no fair I only have 6 midfielders!
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I’m very pleased with Priddis and would happily recommend him to anyone.
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get both of them
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ALERT!
Gary Ablett tweet today.
“Scans are good. Just showed some swelling … Nothing serious!”
Next tweet says he will play “Hopefully this week”.
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Seriously, why would you risk him this week (and not just because my opponents this week have him in their team
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Give him a week off and get him right I say!
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I agree, give him a weeks rest. Having said that they will be temped because the Tigers are a winable game and they do not have too many of those before the end of the year.
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GAJ just tweeted that he got the scans on his knee done and it only showed a bit of swelling with no structural damage. Said he should be right to play this week. Now, that’s what I’m talking about!!!
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OUT Rawlings and Cross
IN Shaw and Bartel
Costs nothing, I have 11 trades left at the moment.
Thumbs up YES
Thumbs down NO!
Cheers lads
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Plenty of trades to use, but Bartel has a finals bye. If you don’t already have them, better options would be Swan, Pendles, Hodge, Ablett (now that he’s ok – wait till teams tho) or Priddis (awesome last five rounds of the season). Rawlings to Shaw is a good move tho.
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Thanks Bender.
I have all of them except Priddis and Pendles. Pendles probably to expensive for me right now, and Priddis could be an option when I upgrade Swallow/Mzungu before finals. Bartel does miss the 2nd week of finals, but he is incredibly cheap and I’m on top of all my leagues. Also, Geelong have a great road apart from the bye and Collingwood R24 so it’s very tempting.
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If there’s no pressure then theres no hurry to trade out Cross just yet. Especially sideways since Bartel this year is barely prem, let alone ultra prem.
Just improve team elsewhere. Or go the full way to Pendles (mb just before dogs bye and just after his 160 drops out of price)
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Cross is really frustrating me this year, well more like Rocket Eade. His new tagging role has restricted him from getting those consistent 100+ scores we know he’s capable of. Bartel is a 450k+ player and when Joelwood comes back I think the Geelong midfield will be up and running again. Thanks A.
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GAZZA IS FINE!!!!!
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Good news day
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Anyone know if Tapscott is going to play this week?
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Yes Jason tapscott will play.
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How’s he traveling Cam?
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Yeah he’s going great. Has had 2 very good games. Had over 20 touches on the weekend and has his trademark long raking kick back. Also still smashes into people. Should slot right back in, Melbourne love him.
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Jason? Am I missing something?
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I don’t think he meant “Jason Tapscott” somehow, he meant: “Jason, Tapscott will play” :rolleyes:
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so. many. supercoach. mistakes. head. about. to. explode.
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Yeah, I know I’ve broken the golden rule however I’m not exactly playing for the top spot in the overall comp.
Maybe next year I’ll go all in for it
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I don’t understand the mentality that people aren’t going for it this year so it doesn’t matter. It’s like saying that you were aware that throwing the punch wasn’t a great idea but the team wasn’t going to make finals so it didn’t matter.
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Angry, I think Jason meant he is out of the running for the chocolates now, so no big deal. I’m sure he wanted to win at the start of the season. Still no excuse for giving up Jason. There are no draft picks to play for. Pride is what most of us have left.
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DON’T,DONT,DONT TRADE ON MONDAY WAIT FOR THE TEAMS. OF COARSE HE WILL KEEP HIS FORM IT’S NOT A MAJOR INJURY HE WILL BE ABSOLUTELY FINE AND WHO KNOWS SWAN MIGHT NOT PLAY THIS WEEK THEY MIGHT NOT PICK HIM OR MIGHT DO A INJURY AT TRAINING YOU NEVER KNOW. 1 OF THE GOLDEN RULES OF SUPERCOACH DON’T TRADE UNTILL TEAMS ARE IN ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY OK.
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OKAY I UNDERSTAND I BROKE THE RULE, NOW I WILL PROBABLY SUFFER FOR IT WHEN ABLETT SCORES A DOUBLE TON THIS WEEK, WAIT.. NEVERMIND.
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Your luck he probably will score 200+ & + plus there playing Richmond I would think G Coast are a chance in that game if Ablett fires G Coast will go close.
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I HOPE YOU FIND WHERE THE CAPS LOCK KEY IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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surely this is a joke, no-one would trade Ablett on Monday
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FORGET THAT COMMENT.
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easy on the capitals champ
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Just looking at players for next year..
Ablett, Fyfe, Mzungu, Swan, Martin..
Any others I should keep in my sights?
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Jack Redden, very underrated.
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Daisy?
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Some potential bargians – J Brown, N Roo, Mundy, Barlow and Bartel
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Ive had J Brown since the start. I say stay clear until you know his team can play.
Ill probably start with NRoo, Gibbs, Swan, Goddard, Watson. All will almost certainly be top players in their respective positions and have been sub expectation so far this year.
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Hayes for sure, maybe Kelly
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So basically were looking for this years under-performers to do better?
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I like where you’re going with trying to pick some of next year’s new premiums – although that process carries some of the risks of the mid-pricer strategy. No harm in discussing it though!
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Well as I look as this years NAB Rising Star nominees,
Some of them appear to be the ones we should be watching.
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Yep, next year’s Fyfes and Martins. Who do you think is going to kick on?
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Morabito and Koby Stevens.
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Morabito will be good (I think he’s a *ick but ok for SC, lol)
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Jack and Kennedy at Sydney should end up premiums, it’s just a matter of what year.
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Jiminy Jillickers! Bartel is at a never-to-be-seen-again price: $348k!! and Steven Jack at $366k looks to be good value as well as the Sainters pick up steam – and is Mid/Fwd DPP.
If I only had more trades…
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It’s Jack Steven. Just sayin’
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always mix his name up. Can’t trust someone with 2 first names.
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That’s ok Yoirgy…
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Don’t trade in another finals-bye ruck.
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North fans – Will Goldstein get bumped for MacIntosh?
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i wouldnt think so…im a hawks supporter tho
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Why does everyone have to trade on Monday? Self control people!!
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I second that one
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Some of us are working 60 hrs a week dude, we might have free time early in the week but later in the week we have stuff on or might forget… true! I do prefer to wait but you never know, and get caught up
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No trades for me this week. Happy with my recruits from last week (Leon and Jolly) and it is time to sit tight on trading and watch the boys perform in the run home.
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Yep. SCT will get a little less traffic this coming few weeks. Might be worth bringing up some strategy or ‘Next year’s team’ posts to keep things interesting!
Eg. What are the tough decisions in Supercoach that separate the men from the boys?
1. Is this premium with a great record just a little off the boil or has he dropped off this year? eg. Chapman, Didak, half the Saints’ team.
2. Is this guy with no history but who is killing at the moment going to keep it up this year? Eg Mundy and Fyfe.
3. Rookie selection – is this kid going to get a game? Score well?
Any others? What do you guys think?
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Well, the one thing I think we have all established after this year is don’t buy up too many rookies. (GC Suns)
I think a lot of us bought a bunch expecting them to be great but only a handful lived up to expectation.
Not going to make the same mistake with GWS..
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Some GCS rookies have dissapointed. Having said that I have been happy with my pickups of:
Z Smith
Stanley
Harris
Swallow
Iiles
Lynch and Matera have been good bench cover at times.
Toy did not live up to expectations.
Overall I am looking forward to GWS rookies in 2012.
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Think I’ll be loading up on GWS, GC have had enough good rookies
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My gut says GWS will be worse than the Suns and their rookies will score fewer points – mostly because GWS get fewer draft concessions that the Suns have – but obviously I could be completely wrong
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I’m starting my 2013 team
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The strategies would be an interesting insight…Whether this year a Guns n roses was the best way to go or a mid prices team and how many mid pricers performed or a combination of both etc…..
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I reckon Guns and Rookies has well and truly paid off for most people this year, and I think my rookies this year have been better than my rookies last year overall, including the Suns players.
Jury will be out on some of this year’s big strategy questions until finals are over though. eg – Was it better to avoid finals-bye players altogether or have them in the team and save extra trades for finals.
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GnR strategy definitely would have paid off this year. I think that it wont as much next year however if they revert to having only 2 bench players. It was a luxury this year to have so many rookies on your bench slowly gaining cash to upgrade. It was a lot easier this year to gain a team of ‘premiums’ as we could carry low-scoring rookies on the bench for longer. With less bench spots available next year with the abolishing of the bye, mid-price options will be crucial.
Wait and see though i guess…
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Their lowering the bench?
Awww…
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Ablett wants to play this week!
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/ablett-hopeful-he-wont-miss-a-game-20110711-1ha5l.html
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Hurley > Petrie (DPP FOR/RUC)
This gets rid of one of your Essendon (R24 risk) players and covers your rucks in case Smith/Cox are out. You can then swap Petrie with J Tippet in/out of the forward line.
Sandi > Ruck Muppet
With the ruck cover above, you can ditch Sandilands and rely on the Cox/Smith/Petrie combo. You can go to a cheap (91K) R4 and maximise your cash. Of course, you could also down grade Smith and use Petrie at R2 until Sandi comes back.
Knights > O’Keefe (nice trade)
Hibberd > Hodge (wait until after Hawks bye Rd 18)
Rioli – wait and see (if you go Petrie above this gives you another forward. Rioli could be worth holding onto especially with the hawks easy run home).
If you have 7 trades now, you’ve suggested 4 trades above, that leaves you with 3 for finals, just sayin’.
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Omen, awesome reply so thanks mate.
I have tossed around the petrie idea, but his first final being out and his meesley 32 has scared me a little. On the other hand tho, was against the mighty pies and could be a good move in a few weeks as should be nice and cheap.
If thats the case, will prob move sandi on and pocket the coin, then can afford to buy the other players.
O’Keefe will def bring in. Sooo many great consistent scores!
Sounds as tho keeping Rioli and waiting will save a trade, so good idea. Hibberd to Hodge will be the biggy, and hopefully will be the difference.
And yes, I now realise that would leave me with 3 left. Tho if I keep Rioli, that will save a Trade and hopefully he will find some form!
Cheers for your help. Much appreciated!
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already been working on my team for next year, with the likes of Hayes jroo nroo cooney brown did all looking cheap
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Will Lenny Hayes be really cheap next season since he has missed all this season?
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He wont be really cheap but his price will be down a little compared with other premiums of the same calibre, maybe 50-80k down…total guess.
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In the past, LTIs affecting an entire season have attracted a 30% discount. ie: Morabito will get the full 30, however Lenny may only get 20 having played the first 2 rounds.
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0 games 40%
1-3 games: 30%
4-5 games: 20%
6-7 games: 10%
8+ games No discount
This was posted on TS at the start of this year. Lenny played 2 games so this could make Hayes around 330-370k??
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No time to focus on next year when I’ve still got this years premierships to win
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Not if I can help it Cam.
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Haha I’m talking about my other league. Will give this one my best shot though…
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Oh Ok. I am fairly high in all my league so am planning to try and get atleast 1/5
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I didn’t realize you could be in 5 leagues until after the first lockout. I’m only in 2
I’ve been 5th all year in the other one yet I’m averaging over 100 points more than my closest opposition… Finally jumped up to 2nd which is where I should stay.
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Two trades this week
Batchelor -> H Shaw
Burgoyne -> Pendles
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Great trades come thursday / friday.
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I have a few ‘problem players’ that I need to get rid of soonish, such as Adcock, JRoo and don’t ask me why but I still have Mundy, Just haven’t gotten around to getting rid of him yet.
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i would keep all of them
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jonesy if you still got mundy u may as well keep him now he’ll be back in 2-3 weeks
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no trades this week , waiting to see how talia is going to go this week .
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Have put some work into planning for next year too. Morabito, Kruezer, Giles etc.
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Giles will be solid pick, will he be around the 100k-130k mark or like 200k because he has played before?
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Has been out of the game for a while and did he actually debut?
Should be at what Zac Smith was.
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Ah, cheers Rusty
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How much will Morabito be? His been injured all season I think..
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Got to receive at least a 25% discount similar to Adcock etc
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Thanks for that, hmm, interested in Jack Grimes and Beau Waters. I reakon they’ll both be dirt cheap (250-300k). I think Krooz will be a lock in my rucks next year, like the way he goes about it.
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Yeah i reckon Morabito may go close to rookie priced.
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Morabito will be similar price to Andy otten I reckon
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Hopefulyl Krooz is DPP (Ruck/Fwd). Same with Hodge (Def/Mid) and LeCras (Mid/Fwd).
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For next year (and the rest of my fantasy footy life) I won’t be picking the following players:
* Rioli
* Adcock
* J Roo
* Chris Knights (actually any crows player who is not a rookie)
* Higgins
I’m not bitter…
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Only 4 trades left, and I’m full of dud premiums.
Jroo, Adcock, Boak.
What to do?
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How much cash?
JRoo is injured and probably should go perhaps for a Pavlich/O’Keefe upgrade. Or at least that’s what I’m thinking going into the finals.
Sit tight on Adcock as he’ll probably come good soon. Unless there’s a Fisher or a Deledio that you haven’t gotten yet.
Boak is also worth keeping until the eve of the finals where you can freely move in one of the above, Boyd, Deledio or any elite midfielder from the Pies. I’m personally waiting for Round 21 to make that trade injuries permitting.
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Get more Collingwood players
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here is where I’m stuck I have 4 trades left and want to bring in RoK for krak in my fwds should I do it now or wait (that now means after the teams have been announced btw)
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When you’re stuck between a ROK and a hard place… give it a Krak mate!
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Can someone tell me how Jake Kings jumper punch on Monfries had less force than Lewis’ face pat also on Monfries? MRP for the tip.
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I know Blease got bugger all in his first game but he did come on late as the sub, so with 8 trades left I’m thinking:
Isaac Smith > Blease
D Swallow > Nick Dal Santo
Will still have Mzungu and Jacobs as bench cover in the middle.
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Callinan in a couple of weeks with the bench cover?
Otherwise NDS’s current form is VERY hard to ignore.
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I know I get the extra 20K with Callinan and a DPP. Just worried at his age and a couple of injuries this year whether he’ll get back in. Prefer to have someone playing than not.
Callinan probably the right call though…
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Will be interesting to see how NDS goes this week with a heavy tag from Scotty Selwood.
Most teams haven’t paid him too much attention this year with the Saints’ form and he has stunk it up bad in the past when tagged.
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IMO don’t go blease. As much as I love him he won’t get a regular gig. He needs more time to develop his efficiency. I’d go callinan, he is in the best 22 moreso than what blease is.
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The people have spoken. Looks like it won’t be “Blease to meet you”.
Callinan it is.
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What’s everyone’s thoughts on Jonathan Brown? he is really cheap so I was just wondering will he finish off strongly?
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I think he will finish strongly, but Brisbane finish the year with West Coast at the Gabba (hello Darren Glass), and Swans at the SCG (hello crowded backline).
Might cost you in finals.
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Sydney crowded backline might also mean bring on the 15 contested marks. he will be the only forward brisbane would kick to in that situation
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No more tradin for me till finals have enough to cover any 1-2 week injuries.
Team ( at it’s best)
B- H.Shaw, Goddard, Deledio, Enright, Gibbs, Duffield, Gilbert
(Adcock, Otten, Howard)
C- Swan, Ablett, Pendlebury, Hodge, Boyd, ROK
(Cotchin, Jacobs, Callinan)
R- Jolly, Cox
(Moran, J.Tippett)
F- Franklin, Pavlich, Goodes, Chapman, Sylvia, Petrie, N.Riewoldt
(Mzungu, Dahlhaus, Richardson)
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I’m making one trade
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Great team Rustee. Good depth throughout.
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Yeah it’s a great team I come up against this week… Have to win to hold onto top spot!
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My team at full strength don’t have many trades left, only a handful for LTI’s and/or finals.
Lids, Fisher, BJ, Heater, Enright, Gibbs, Stiffy
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Duffman, Pup, R. Tarrant (What was I thinking
Pendles, Griffs, Gaj, Hodgey, Swan, Bartel
Hibberd, Jacobs, Callinan
Cox, Griffin
Smith, J.Tipp
Buddy, Goodes, Chappy, NRoo, JRoo, Droopy, Yaz
Mzungu, Darling, Howe
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Cheers Andy.
Cam, maybe a possible poll for our match up?
Great looking team there PA. Welcome back btw.
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Yeah I think that would be good. Once we have our final teams set on Friday we could ask motts to do one. There aren’t many differences but will be close. I think if ablett misses you have a greater advantage over me…
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Will you release your captain choice before lockout?
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Yeah I will if you do. Will have to think long and hard about it though!
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Yeah I will reveal my choice.
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Yeah thanks Russ, have been going great guns in the last fortnight or so. Just crossing my fingers and toes for no LTI’s and hopefully I can break into the top 1,000 overall this year.
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As am I an LTI would really hurt.
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I knew you couldn’t resist Don McLean Joey.
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P.S great score this week 2300+, nice going champ.
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I really need to improve my back line.
Deledio, Newman, Shaw, +cock, Heppel, Duigan, Lower
(Otten, Puopolo, Toy)
I was thinking +cock>Fisher but i don’t have the cash.
Can anyone think of a good player around the $350,000-$400,000 mark.
Also who would you put on the field this week out of Otten and Lower.
Thumbs UP Lower
Thumbs DOWN Otten
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Harry Taylor is $401K and he’s gone 103, 99, 88, 123 in his last 4 games.
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I’m sitting tight on Adcock, but I think that Josh Gibson @390k would be a good option but has the bye this weeek. Harry Taylor has finals bye but if you finish top 4 and win week 1 in finals you won’t have to worry abut that.
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Plenty of good options for that price.
Gilbert has come good recently, Gibson has a favourable draw, Duffield is always a good option. If you are willing to wait a week you may be able to snaffle Hurn for around 400K.
Lots of options maybe see what your key oponents have.
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Do you reckon Otten>Gilbert would be a sideways trade?
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I have 5 trades left
Thinking of trading Otten>Gilbert
Thumbs UP-Yes
Thumbs DOWN- No, i should save my trades
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Chappy has Brisbane this week
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Your team must be full of superstars GG if Chappy is your weakest link.
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No certainly not full of champs, sorry was thinking out loud I suppose. Not unsatisfied with Chappy, but want him out before finals (him, Gibbs & Judd though I am considering just benching Judd, I don’t want to let him go. Could cost me though).
115, 300 in the kitty. 6 trades left, the ones I’d like to upgrade are out of the following: Darling, Pederson, AKrak (he’s been fairly consistant, though, no?). Or possibly downgrading Conca or Libba as my mids are fairly set. Decisions, decisions!
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Considering Gibbs to Shaw
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I would be waiting till right at the end. Say u trade Shaw in and he gets injured in the mean time you waste a couple trades. Gibbs is going alright, Chapman and Judd also, so just keep them till close to the end and get the premiums that are flying at that time.
Another option is keep Judd and Chapman and get a M/F premium that sits on the bench and he can cover them during the bye, such as Fyfe or Sylvia ect. That saves a trade as well. Then you only need to trade Gibbs.
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Stop thinking about all these sideways trades GG. Just sit tight and fix your team up before the finals.
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You’ll be smashing guitars if you do that trade! Don’t you have anyone else to trade for ROK?
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Thinking with Bartell so cheap, great bench cover??
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Just checked out bartel,s price and jeez he,s cheap and he,s not going to be this cheap again ($348,800) , with a breakeven of 46 against brisbane this week . Bartel has a nice average of 98.93 and some recent form , he could be a handy 7th mid and with doubts over ablett this week he could be handy pick up to fill the holes in the comming weeks . The only down side is the round 22 bye , but hey it might be worth it as bench cover .
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Would love some feedback
Team this week:
DEF: Deledio,Fisher,Goddard,Shaw,Johncock,Broughton,Hibberd
(Birchall,Puopolo,Toy)
MID: Pendlebury,Murphy,Boyd,Swan,Boak,Swallow(GC)
(Ablett,Buckley,Callinan)
RCK: Cox,Lobbe
(Bailey,McCulloch)
FWD: Pavlich,Fyfe,Goodes,Cloke,Riewoldt,Lynch,Mzungu
(Franklin,McKernan,Richardson)
6 trades left $186,000
This week:
Set myself up with enough cash for the rest of the season.Then upgrade
Simon Buckley ——– > Rookie (will check out BS rookie review)
Tom Lynch (GC) ———–> ROK
Next week: Upgrade and leave 3 trades (which i don’t think is enough?) for injuries
Travis Boak ———> Sam Mitchell
Thumbs Up: Good plan 3 trades is enough for injuries
Thumbs Down: Bad plan not enough trades left
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Good solid plan.
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Do you guys think J Brown is a good pick up at $337k?
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No. He’s just not getting the same lace out service that he’s been used to in previous years. Brisbane may even put him on ice and get any surgery required done early to be ready for next year.
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On another note, I reckon this week could be one of the closest captains polls of the year. Factor in GAJ’s injury, Pendles and Swanny playing a fired up Blues, Boyd and Priddis have been ok, most have jumped off Selwood (against Brissy this week) and Hodgey has a bye. Who’s your early pick?
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SCOTT THOMPSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don’t have Thompson, but am thinking Lids vs the Suns, ROK at SCG vs Freo or maybe Goddard.
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Chappy is my early mail – looked back to his fired up best at Subi last week and the Cats will be stung into form after two losses in a row.
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As they say in card table parlance most people will be at sixes and sevens on which player to pick as captain, but for those that kept the faith with Joel Selwood he will repay you in spades!
PS: Mike I hope you appreciated the metaphors
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@schnider
Same, have Scott Thompson captain. Since ’05 he has averaged 118 against the Dons or something similiar. Also at AAMI, Scott Thompson (C), Brendon Goddard (VC).
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SCOTT THOMPSON
!!!
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Likely he’ll get a pretty tight tag from Hocking.
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Hocking has been playing more of an attacking role rather than defensive role i the last few weeks while Watson has been out and I thinkk they’ll continue that if they want to keep winning. Scott Thompson will still get a lot of hard ball regardless
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Yeah that’s what I was wondering as well
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Who is a good cheapish yet consistent forward below 430k?
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Sylvia has been consistent that is until I bought him two weeks ago : (
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Since this year has been so stressful with the byes and all and i have just had a terrible week i have started to think about next year. I will write all my thoughts out to help others and myself: I will sort this out in sections.
Discounted Premiums for 2012:
Goddard-Will probably be discounted due to a offish season
Jack- Will be discounted due to an injury bombed 2011 and is only going to improve
Nick and Jack Reiwoldt- Nick has had a horror season so far and Jack has just a very long cold patch.
Hayes- Hardly played this year and might be cheaper than he normally is
Montagna- Up and Down season so far so will hopefully be back to his excellent best next year.
Malceski- Injury savaged 2011 and hasnt been in great form so will defiantly be discounted next year.
Adcock- Anyone going to dare to go near him again? I know i wont be
Brown- We all know when he is at his best he is a scoring machine, but will he get back to his magnificent best?
Mundy- Great start to year but got injured and will be discounted next
year
Brian Lake- Horror season could he get back to his best?
Barlow- THE SC GOD! Next year he should hit his straps like 2010!
Jobe Watson- Started the season on fire but i do not think he will finish of the season in that style.
Sandi- Dont need to explain do I?
Connors, Gilbert and Grimes
The young guns who will improve in 2012:
Pendlebury- Gun who will only improve in this great Collingwood side.
Martin- Great second year and should only improve. But he might have peaked early? I am not sure.
Fyfe- One word GUN! Needless to say more!
Murphy- Great 2011 and might avoid hard tag that will go to Judd
Gibbs- hopefully next year is the year which he wont tag and start playing a permanent Midfield role.
Others would be Selwood, Griffen, Rioli, Hodge, thomas, Wells, Rockliff and Cotchin
The previous guns who might have their numbers decline in 2012:
Pavlich
Boomer
Chapman
Corey
O’keefe
Goodes
Didak
Bolton
AND NOW THE MUST HAVES!
Ablett
Swan
Goddard
Selwood
and the players on the ‘never touch again list’
ADCOCK, GRIMES AND HIGGINS
Im sure lots will still pick em next year!
I have probably missed some so feel free to add to the list. I hope you guys are not thinking about next year yet and i hope some of you are still a chance for the overall this year! Good luck and i hope this was a good read and gave you some insight to who to pick next year. I will personally go the durable guns and rookie strategy next year because im sick of my players getting injured!
Cheers
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oh damit! my brothers account! It was acctualy me max!!
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Add Everitt to the never touch again list.
It’s scary to think, how many of those declining players are in the majority of forward lines this year…
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you forgot hayes he will be cheap
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woops didint see you had him on your list
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Serioulsy how can u already be thinking about supercoach next year? And what does everyone think of Robbie Gray then?
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S#ithouse, but probably Port’s best player.
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I don’t really have any trades left unless people get injured. There’s not enough weekly strategising to keep me busy any more!
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okay well seeing as no one liked my trade options:P……… I have a heap of trades remaining and I really need to get rid of Darling and Milburn( bought him as a premium:P). This is my forward line:
Fyfe, Goodes, Petrie, Nroo, Rioli, Darling, Mzungu, Richardson, McKernan and Skinner
I know everyone would be saying get ROK but everyone in my league has him so I was thinking maybe someone else…….
My defense is:
Deledio
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Getting ROK is a good defensive trade if you think he will continue to be one of the highest scoring forwards in the league.
Generally, eliminating bad POD’s is as important as creating good ones. At the end of the day, what you really want is to have is the highest scoring players in the league, no matter who they are and who else has them.
Same rationale applied to picking up Ablett mid season – you just couldn’t not have him, the bad POD killed you.
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Is this the same reason why you don’t have Buddy?
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Sorry bout that my defence is:
Deledio, Suckling, Adcock, Heppell, Lower, Pederson, Jacobs, Milburn, Golby and McGovern. As you can see a very weak defence which is full of medium priced rookies who must be upgraded! So I’m starting with Milnurn but I want to stay away from Fisher and Goddard…..so who else?
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Next year I am avoiding key position forwards. They are too unpredictable, don’t pick up enough of the ball to cover them on a day when they don’t take bags of marks or kick bags of goals.
I actually said that to myself last year also. How short my memory was.
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Oh agreed, the more forward/mids in the forward line as possible, the better!
Eg, don’t think ill jump on the JRoo train again..
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Is JRoo definitely carrying an injury?
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No he has a disability….. namely his midfield
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I am reluctant to spend one of my 5 remaining trades on JRoo.
If he is injured, I guess i’ll trade him, but if not, then surely getting rid of him is selling low and he can only have upside? It’s not like he’s a flash in the pan, Coleman medal is nothing to sneeze at.
Having said that, I do have Rioli on the bench as well as a few underperformers.
And maybe like his cousin his form is not only of his making but also a result of the press having changed the flow of the ball into the forward line.
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Do you have his cousin? There isn’t a HUGE price difference
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Yeah, that’s why I am so frustrated with key forwards!!!
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Comments, Brune.
I like Stanley – his scores have been trending upward recently. I’d hold him.
Out of the other 2, I don’t know if you need the D/M DPP flexibility that Hibberd gives you. If you do then it makes the decision pretty easy.
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Thanks Motts, I have Jacobs for DPP flexibility. I’m thinking Lower has a tough run home and if Freo welcome back some injured players, his spot in the side may be in jeopardy. By the way, I work with an old mate of yours here in Adelaide – Woody.
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Motts, looking back at your post a few weeks ago (I think it was you) asking about the differences between “league win” and “overall score” strategies, this week has been a classic illustration.
My bench included Rioli (who I didn’t trade out in part because of the non-league round) and Pav, Jamar, Mzungu, Thompson, Sylvia, Broughton and Lower (all of whom were selected for my team with their non-league byes in mind).
Didn’t have any 0′s but only scored 1890.
Ranking dropped from 6652 to 9150. Same thing happened in round 6 except that time I dropped 5000 places.
But I didn’t lose a game!
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League wins are a lot more realistic for 99% of us playing the game. I applaud you for sticking to your strategy.
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Has anyone info or thought on whether Leigh Montagna is fully over his knee problem which he picked up against the pies in Rnd 12? At 380K and likely to average 100 from here on in (if fully fit) then i’m thinking he would be a great pick up as an underpriced prem who should come good + play all SC finals games. Trade in for maybe A.Krak?
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If youre positioned high in youre league, i would recommend Bartel. At 350 K he has a lot of upside at that price
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Thanks El Greco. Stayed off him due to his Rd 22 bye, however at that price certainly worth re-looking at.
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Who should I trade out for Fisher
Thumbs UP: Duigan
Thumbs Down: Lower
Comment for Puopolo
I have enough cash to trade out any of them
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If you hold off on Sam Fisher for 1 if not 2 more weeks then you will get him 30 to 50K cheaper due to his shocker last weekend. If you are sitting pretty in league let destiny take it’s course and see if Duigan, Lower or Puopolo get injured, suspended, lose form etc prior to picking up Fisher prior to Round 20. If you had to trade now then Duigan out because of his Rnd 23 bye.
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Would appreciate some feedback
Team this week:
Deledio, Newman, Shaw, +cock, Heppel, Duigan, Lower
(Otten, Puopolo, Thompson)
Ablett?, Swan, Pendles, Priddis, Bartel, D Swallow
(Atley, Smith, Irons)
Cox, Smith
(Lobbe, Currie)
Pav, Fyfe, Goodes, Yarran, Higgins, Darling, Tapscott?
(Richardson, Franklin, Skinner)
I have 5 trades left and $6,700 in the bank.
Thinking of Otten>Talia which would leave me with $255,000
Then Duigan>Fisher
At the end i would have about $75,000 and 3 trades.
What do you guys think??
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wait for fisher he got 31 last week and has a BE of 184. either upgrade someone else e.g. darling –>ROK or Swallow —> Cooney and then in a couple of weeks when fish bottoms out, then get him in. or just save trades and get fish in when he bottoms out.
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Get another midfield premium
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Thumbs Up: Darling>ROK
Thumbs Down: Duigan>Fisher
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Boomer may have a broken finger…
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That may tell us why he has been unable to remove it.
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THUMBS UP: Milburn—-> Broughton
THUMBS DOWN: Milburn—–> Shaw
Comment for someone else
Hot debate. What do you think?
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His price is down already & if i was you i would keep the faith. I’m keeping the fella as for D7 he is capable of good scores by SC finals time.
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I’m low on trades, so I’ll be keeping him in the hope that Voss comes to his senses and stops using him in a lockdown role deep in defense. If you have trades though, flick him as Voss can’t be trusted.
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thanks guys, according to the consensus then, I should keep him as a D7? I am low on trades as well.
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Hmmm but I thought that Broughton would be a good pick seeing as he is coming good again and he is a unique pick…… And he has a BE of 28 meaning his price will go up a lot…
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Sometimes you just have to go with your gut, Sicko. I had kept Sandilands all this time but traded him out on the multi-bye round for McEvoy because he had a low BE and was a unique pick. Won’t look back, but am just spewing I didn’t make the move a week earlier!
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Who should i put on the field this week?
Thumbs Up- Lower
Thumbs Down- Talia
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Goodes – Up
Chapman – Down
I am not doing it now but for later, about round 20
Hot debate. What do you think?
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geelong bye 2nd week of finals
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yeah but he will be cover anyway so wont matter, plus in all leagues i am top so i will probably (not trying to be cocky) win first week
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trade out boak?
9 trades left and looking to use some of them. also 200,000 in the bank
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I think you definitely should.
You have trades to spare and 200k in the bank so you can afford anyone.
Pendles, Swan, NDS, Priddis are all good options.
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ok. thanks!
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Who is the best forward going around apart from ROK and Pavlich?
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Buddy if he can stay out of trouble.
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Don’t hold your breath on that one!
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My team at best:
Defenders –
S.Fisher, B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, S.Hurn, G.Broughton, M.Hurley (C.PEDERSON, P.Puopolo, A.Johnson)
Midfielders -
S.Pendlebury, M.Boyd, M.Priddis, G.Ablett, S.Thompson, D.Swan (A.DIDAK, D.Harris, B.Jacobs)
Rucks -
D.Cox, Z.Smith (J.Tippett, M.Curnow)
Forwards –
M.Pavlich, R.O’keefe, N.Fyfe, L.Franklin, C.Sylvia, D.Petrie, C.Rioli (T.MZUNGU, T.Lynch, C.Richardson)
4 Trades, $188,700
This is my plan:
Round 18 – T.Lynch —> D.Talia (to swap with Hurley and A.Johnson in backline) – leaves me with about $300,000
Round 21 – P.Puopolo —> B.Deledio (completes backline with Hurley on bench) – leaves me with about $210,000
– T.Mzungu —> A.Goodes (will be my bench player to cover for Petrie in bye) – leaves me with about $80,000
Round 22, 23 or 24 use $80,000 whenever and wherever I want. Might upgrade Zac Smith, but I will see.
Leaves me with a team of:
Defenders –
S.Fisher, B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, S.Hurn, G.Broughton, B.Deledio(M.HURLEY, C.Pederson, A.Johnson)
Midfielders -
S.Pendlebury, M.Boyd, M.Priddis, G.Ablett, S.Thompson, D.Swan (A.DIDAK, D.Harris, B.Jacobs)
Rucks -
D.Cox, Z.Smith (J.Tippett, M.Curnow)
Forwards –
M.Pavlich, R.O’keefe, N.Fyfe, L.Franklin, C.Sylvia, D.Petrie, C.Rioli (A.GOODES, D.Talia, C.Richardson)
Good trades – Thumbs up
Bad trades – Thumbs down
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Ollie I like your forward thinking, but one thing that Supercoach has taught me throughout the years is that plans come unstuck. Injuries and form are the main culprits of this. Of course everybody has to think ahead a bit, but (to use a classic footy cliche) just take it one week at a time and see what each round deals up to you.
I was about to get fisher this week and was confident of winning my league game, but with fisher’s low score I’ll now hold fire and if GAJ doesn’t play I may have a tougher task on my hands than I first thought.
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They sound like ripper trades, hope everything falls into place and youre able to make them
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Its nice to see a few new names (people) having something to say . The numbers have jumped up in the past few weeks …good to see .
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hmmm Okeefe or Pavlich?
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you see im at a loss at who to bring in for Darling….I need a gun forward so who out of Okeefe, Pavlich, Franklin or anyone else?
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Who’s in you’re forward line?
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* your
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Is it to risky to have no ruck cover for the rest of the year?
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You should be right, if any of your premium ruckmen get injured, you will trade them out anyways, right?
Plus, most people use their emergencies in D, M and F
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My forward lines is Fyfe, Goodes, Petrie, Nroo, Rioli, Darling, Prestia, McKernan, Richardson, Skinner….. As I said I’m getting rid of Darling for either ROK, Pavlich, Franklin or any other suggestions?
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I’d probably say Pavlich, he’s just ultra consistent
Although, Franklin at his price looks pretty attractive.. Probably won’t see him much cheaper this year
How many trades do you have left?
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Ive just done the sums and im so pumped ive got to tell someone.
With 9 trades left and a bench full of cows ready for milking ive worked out my trades from here to the first week of finals.
In the next 5 weeks id like to announce that
sylvia
shaw
swan
sandilands – assuming he comes up in rnd 19
fisher
& matty pav will be joining the ranks.
I hope you boys are ready for a big finals campaign!!!
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Hmm well I have enough trades left to get rid of Darling……..
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darling is making way for sylvia this week for me, hes been good up untill the last month. the 33 on the weekend was the last straw
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How much money do you have are there any other options.
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who should i trade heppell for during the finals
priddis thumbs up
dal santo thumbs down
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priddis, hes a gun and pretty unique
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Thinking of a Darling upgrade.
Current fwds (including a couple in the mids) are:
Pavlich, Franklin, O’Keefe, Petrie, N Riewoldt, Krakouer, Dangerfield, Prestia, Smith, Mzungu, Darling, Matera
Question is who should i target in my Darling upgrade?? Have $243,800 already in kitty so sky’s the limit.
Fyfe, Goodes, Watts, Davis all spring to mind. Thoughts??????
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Don’t do it RB!!! Wait another week!
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Why??
His last six scores read: 47, 75, 42, 53, 56, 33
His BE is 84
He’s playing a rejuvenated Saints team at Etihad
Please explain why Yiorgakis
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The LoEC
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Would i be right in assuming that’s you that i’m h2h with this week then PA?? Given my ladders situation i really need this one. May do a double upgrade just to annoy you!!
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Not me
, Yiorgakis is.
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ahhhhhh ……… thinking a Z Smith >> D Jolly trade while he’s still cheap and going Darling >> Goodes
Thumbs up: yes
Thumbs down: Jolly’s too big a risk
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Yes, SCT’s auditor
is on the money. The Phat Side awaits. Fyfe and Neon would be my picks. Goodes has been handy but is prone to the odd sub 60 score, whilst I wouldn’t trust Watts. Good luck!
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I have to admit, Darling is worrying me, I had always planned to keep him. I thought he’d maybe be less likely than other rookies to drop off towards the end of the season as he’s already a pretty big and strong bloke.
I only have 5 trades and I am trying not to use them unless I get key injuries.
Do you think there’s any chance he’ll come good in finals, given their good draw?
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Me too Mike. But with only 3 trades left, I’ve resigned to keeping him as an F10. Hopefully won’t need to use him.
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Poblem for me is he is probably F8 and will be first onto the field in the case of injuries! And he is getting a game while Sizzle sits on my bench. I will definitely win 2 of the next 3 though so probably will hold onto him and hope for the best!
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Can you afford Pavlich,Franklin or Ryan O Keefe there the best forwards options and Fyfe if you can afford Pavlich go for him but out of the ones you mentioned if they are the only good options you can afford go Fyfe or Goodes.
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Daniel – i currently have $243,800 in the bank so i can get anyone and still probably have some coin in my pocket. Already have Pav, Buddy and RO’K. That’s why i mentioned Fyfe and Goodes. Freo’s run home is scary and i’m worried about Freo’s scoring potential (and i already have Broughton, Pav and Tendai).
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Maybe T Cloke or C Syliva and maybe if you don’t have Hale he is a DPP maybe to make even more money to upgrade a rookie or someone do a absolute superstar and maybe use Hale as a DPP in the ruck,but my suggestions would be to go with Fyfe or Goodes.
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Cloke’s probably the #1 option at the moment but his price is a bit rich for my liking and would stop me from swapping Smith for Jolly at R2 which is an area i want to strengthen my team.
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Other about Cloke is that even though he is looking really dangerous, Collingwood have so many routes to goal and still don’t rely on him as much as you’d like or expect, so he still gets some crap scores (although not recently). I’d still be going for M/F players as much as possible.
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DEF: Deledio, Fisher, Gibbs, Goddard, Shaw, Grundy, Broughton.
(L Thompson, Strauss, Toy)
MIDS: Boyd, Priddis, Pavlich, Ablett, Swan, J Selwood (YES….KEPT HIM).
(I Smith, Nicholson, Callinan)
RUCKS: Cox, Smith.
(Curnow, J Tippett)
FORWARDS: O’Keefe, Fyfe, Goodes, Sylvia, Chapman, Petrie, Mzungu.
(Franklin, Matera, Lynch)
Limited trades left, thinking mabye no trades this week, would you be worried playing against this team (this week at least)?
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Don’t know if i’d be ‘worried’ but it’s definitely looking pretty strong
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I would be worried sick mate that’s a great team, you would kill me.
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thx guys, feedback is greatly appreciated
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Is there any value in getting a mid-range fwd at this stage of the season (Lecras, Higgins or Brown) or should i be aiming at nothing but the best in O’Keefe and Pavlich?
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Depends on a lot of things like how complete your team is and how many trades you have left. You would probably only do that if you were desperate for wins and had no other options or if you have so few trades and cash left that getting a premium is not going to be possible
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Just the best.
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Hey everyone…
This is how my team stands at the moment:
DEF: Gibbs, Shaw, Goddard, Duigan, Heppel, Hibberd, Batchelor (Suckling, Lower, Coad)
MID: Swan, Pendlebury, Kennedy (SYD), Deledio, Van Berlo, Swallow (Hodge, Curnow, Harris)
RUCK: Jolly, Jamar (Petrie)
FWD: Pavlich, O’Keefe, Watts, Kennedy(WC), Darling, Matera, Dahlhaus (Franklin, Smith, Schneider)
Needing to boost my forward line, thinking of trading out Darling??? If i trade him will have $323,000 to spend… Any ideas??
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Maybe look to get Fyfe for Darling.
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No trades for me this week. Feels like an AA meeting. My name is Omen and I haven’t traded for 12 days.
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Basic question – who to trade in
Thumbs up: ROK
Thumbs down: Fyfe
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My fwds This week are are pav, fyfe, goodes, Stevie j, Petrie, darling, lynch (buddy, Dawes and Richardson on bench). Should I single trade riewoldt in for Dawes, or double trade…. Lynch + Dawes for talia and ROK?
that would leave me with pav, fyfe, ROK, goodes, Stevie j, buddy & Petrie at full strength.
I guess the Q is ROK worth burning 2 trades for, or go with riewoldt in a single trade?
Any other suggestions welcome!
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Did a double trade:
Z Smith >> Jolly
Darling >> Goodes
It’s a bit of a punt with Jolly but confident in his upside.
Thank you to Zac and Jack for your work this season. Appreciate it. Especially you Zac.
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