Trade Talk R6 – PART TWO

Written by Schwarzwalder on April 27 2017

Too much happening in trading circles to justify confining it to the one thread per week. So what moves have you got planned?

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122 thoughts on “Trade Talk R6 – PART TWO”

  1. would love some coaching advice.
    premo’s all doing their jobs (2254) last week.
    I’ve been reasonably frugal with trades, due to luck with no injuries concerns.
    26 trades
    $34,000 bank
    most of my on field rookie’s going ok with some growth,
    backs: Marchbank, Ottens, Hampton
    Mids: SPP
    forw: Butler, WHE, Houston
    Bench cover a worry
    Backs: stewart, Hibberd
    Mids: Taranto, Pickett, Barrett
    Forw: Parfitt, Eddy
    only real worry is roughie
    so my planning was not to make any trades this week (pending team selection)
    Projection this week 2239
    due to not having much money to make any meaningful trades that can help me.
    was hoping to wait 1-2 weeks to then go hard on the cow’s EG: marchbank,
    Houston etc
    PS: I heard Myers had it on a string in the 2’S last week, could be worth a look if and when he gets in
    any thoughts would be appreciated.

    T/U make some trades, there’s some dead wood to be moved
    T/D good idea wait that 1-2 weeks for cow’s and some bubble cow’s

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  2. So I’ve decided on the single downgrade this week and now it is a matter of deciding which of the cash cows/mid-pricers to cull. It is out of Swallow, Taranto, SPP or Pickett. Any help would be appreciated.

    Trading one of the above to either;
    T/U: Balic
    T/D: Fisher

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    1. I’d cut Swallow. Breakeven of 94 means there’s a solid chance he loses a chunk of money, and even best case scenario (100pts) he won’t stand to make much.

      SPP with a breakeven of 41 won’t lose cash, but could make some. Taranto was rested, so should hopefully come back into the side this week or next and start appreciating again.

      If you’re only brining in one, I’d go Balic if he’s named. DPP is handy and he’s a second-year player so is less likely to be rested than young Fisher. That being said, if they take a cautious approach with whatever his hip issue was, he may not get up this week and Fisher might be the necessary choice.

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  3. Considering two options.
    T/U Roughy to Balic and Swallow to Sloane
    T/D Roughy to Balic and Swallow to Fisher.

    Hoping some rookies get recalled this week.

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  4. Only used 4 trades thus far. Ranked 2500. Only $10,000 spare.
    Time to downgrade/upgrade and bring in a Heater, Sloane, Hanners, Nank, Hibberd, Greene??
    FWD line is putrid so should perhaps focus on that…..
    Any feedback would be awesome thanks

    Adams, Laird, Johanniesson, Otten, Marchbank, Hampton (Newman, Smith)
    Danger, Bont, Fyfe, Pendles, Treloar, Titchell, Oliver, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, Maynard)
    Grundy, Sandi (Preuss)
    Dahl, JJK, Franklin, Butler, Houston, Parfitt (Hannan, Eddy)

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  5. doing one downgrade and one upgrade this week.

    T/U- SPP to Balic, Swallow to Sloane and max price

    T/D- SPP to Balic, Swallow to Treloar as a fallen premium and have 170 k left for another upgrade next week

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  6. Someone gets a nifty upgrade this week

    T/U WHE (reminds me too much of Taylor Hunt)
    T/D Marchbank (could he avg high 80s eventually?)

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  7. Buyer beware I started with shaw and obviously regretting it. He is cheap but I wouldn’t bring him in now at least wait until his form turns around. Getting the feeling he could be the Malceski of 2015 (premo turned spud) for what it’s worth I’m holding for now until his bye. Hopefully he turns things around

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  8. Franklin or Josh Kennedy (west coast)? Or neither?

    Or should I go for Shaw?

    Or someone in the mids?

    Thinking of going omeara and roughie for Fisher /balic and then Franklin

    In the top 500 now, and am going for points… So need to do something that maximises points

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  9. What do we reckon of Swallow and O’Meara?

    Do I boot one of them? Traded in Swallow a couple weeks, so don’t really want to pull the trigger so soon.

    Want Balic or Hardwick for $$ gen

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    1. Problem I see with with Balic and Hardwick is that they are coached by Lyon and Clarkson, both not reliable for playing rookies consistently.

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  10. Worthwhile bringing in Balic + Hardwick?

    I already have fisher, and would be trading Hannan to Hardwick

    TU – Bring in Just Balic
    TD – Bring in both

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  11. Should I:

    T/U: Get Rocky in this week by going SPS to Fisher and Roughy to Rocky via DPP, and then get one of Simpson or Buddy in next week.

    T/D: Downgrade both Roughy and SPS to rookies and then next week upgrading to both Buddy and Simpson, getting Rocky or a similar Premo later on.

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  12. Need some advice from the SCT community.
    Im currently ranked 246 (which is uncharted territory for me), I have 25 trades left, $15k in bank and only 6 onfield rookies (ottten, marchbank, Newman/Williamson, WHE, Houston, Butler/SPP).
    Im not in a rush to upgrade onfield rookies just yet as already upgraded taranto to Hanners last week and the remaining onfield rookies arent doing too bad. However I am worried about cash generation as I have newman, barrett and eddy all getting doughnuts and pickett not far behind.
    I dont know what my next move should be to maintain / go up in ranking but also to make sure I have enough trades at back half of season.
    should I be
    T/U going agressive with trades next few weeks to ensure cash generation (downgrading SPP / WHE, swapping barrett/pickett/eddy for guys on bubble)
    or should I
    T/D let the cows I have fatten a bit more / hope Eddy/barret come back soon and wait for the really good cash cows to come around so I save trades

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    1. great work J JJ, keep up the great work
      I posted similar comment earlier, the consensus seemed to be to keep trading.
      all thou I’m miles behind you in points,
      my concern was to trade to whom? hence why my thoughts were to hold off until next week at least because
      A: the cow’s you have will be ready in 1-2 weeks
      B: which good cow’s are on the bubble? (Balic maybe if FURL picks him)
      C: I’d hate to trade out a dud only to trade in another dud

      Anyway there’s some smart coach’s out there that may be able to point you in the right direction, with some niffy trade move that none of us thought of.

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    2. Joey- jo -jo

      I would wait a week on SPP and WHE.

      One of Barrett /Eddy (if not named) could be swapped out for Fisher or Balic.

      If both are named I would trade Pickett out for Fisher/ Balic.

      Next week 1 up 1 down.

      There seems to be a few more Rookies coming through the next few rounds

      Also some Top Shelf Fallen Premiums ripe for picking.

      I’m usually quite conservative with trades.But if I had your ranking I would throw that out the window and try to get to a full premium team ASAP.

      I still think you need at least 8 trades post byes and a bit of luck with Injuries to have a real shot.

      Best of luck for the rest of your season.

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      1. thanks for the advice guys. Yeah I was thinking similar with Eddy as he is less likely to return than newman /barrett and I doubt I will miss much coin even if he did come back.
        If balic is named / eddy dropped will definitley consider That trade as it bring back another mid/fwd rookie (Ive traded out both taranto and Florent so less flexibility atm).
        Not as sold on Fisher so if balic isnt named my wait this week out.

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  13. I’m bringing in Jeremy Cameron, because Supercoach is both;

    a) supposed to be fun; and
    b) about being the smartest guy in the room

    He’s had career highs in disposals both of the last two weeks, appears to be working higher up the ground, is awesome fun to watch, and premium forwards are an absolute dumpster fire. He’s also probably a flat track bully, but GWS are going to be on a lot of flat tracks this year.

    My season is already tanked after captaining Gawn when he strung out anyway, so time to get ahead of the game. Plus it means no more Pickett on field.

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  14. Just thinking.
    Sloane is going great guns but how long can he keep this current scoring pattern up for? At max price.

    Hanners has had a start to the year he would rather forget but is starting to turn things around and I can see the Swans hitting their straps. You can’t keep a good team down.

    Rocky being Rocky and scoring well, approx 40K cheaper than Sloane. But Rocky being Rocky could be injured at any time. Twice bitten third time shy.

    Thoughts? Anyone else to consider?

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    1. or depending on selections tonight
      double T/U glass of single malt whisky and cigar
      double T/D skull bottle of tequila and packet of Winnie red’s

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  15. Educate a newby as I’m looking at a double/double to do a clean out and build the bank; this week 2 of Hardwick/Fisher/Balic then next week 2 of Black/Johnson/Melican.
    T/U Go for it.
    T/D Idiot

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  16. Bringing in a mid premo for JOM the question is who.

    T/U- Bont (proven scorer) 610k

    T/D – Zorko (very reliable should average 110-115 form here) 588k

    Comment anyone else (was also looking at hanners, wines and zerret)

    Pendles will be ripe for the taking in a few weeks as well if he starts to look the goods again.

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      1. Agreed. But i am interested in my ranking (currently around 2,800) so i want the premo in this week and was thinking double down next week.

        This weeks trades planned were Powell- Pepper – Balic, JOM – Bont. However maybe keeping PP and JOM for another week could pay off??

        T/U- Stick to original plan and get in balic and bont for jom and pp

        T/D- Pickett – Balic and save the other trade and re evaluate next week

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  17. I traded trealor to pendles a few weeks back, and I’m looking to upgrade swallow to a premo mid. Is it worth getting trealor back in? Or get someone else (only got 570k)? cheers

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    1. If you traded out a premium, do not bring them back in. Absolute waste of trades, back your gut on your original decision to cut your losses with him.

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    2. Downgradeโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ Swallow.

      Breatheโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ

      Trade Pendles back to Treloar.

      I know Pendles can play injured. But for how long?

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  18. Ok well SPS > Balic is locked in but unsure what to do with my second trade I’ll have 25 left after this week.

    TU Turner > Hardwick bank 291K (cash in now for upgrades next wk and wait to rectify non playing in coming weeks)

    TD Pickett/Eddy> Hardwick Bank 197K-220K ( bite the bullet and start making some cash on the bench)

    I’m also holding Barrett and will be holding SPP I think he’s got a few good scores to come!

    Any advise would be great thanks

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  19. Thinking of cleaning out the crap. Buddy has a *very* nice run in front of him and Balic looks to be a decent cash cow (by this year’s standards) if he can hold his spot.

    Roughy to Buddy & Florent to Balic

    T/U Yay
    T/D Nay

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  20. Pickett & Swallow > Balic & Fisher
    Allows me to bank 300k and bring in two fallen premiums in Shaw and Franklin next week

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  21. Are there any decent rookies on the bubble next week?

    Was going to go double downgrade this round, and double upgrade next round, but in order to do that I’d have to bring in one of Fisher or Hardwick, and I’m not sold on either of them.

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      1. Vickers Willis, Mcneise, Parsons (if back in) and black all on the bubble next week.

        Im worried about the week after! Dont think theres any other than Stewart from essendon who got named this week but his 170k. Was hoping myers got picked

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  22. Roughy to Buddy, even though his breakeven is 124 I feel against Carlton he could get it.
    My second trade is I feel I should get rid of Pickett.

    TU/ Balic BE -57
    TD/ Fisher BE -67

    Any comments appreciated

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    1. trade pickett and swallow IMO

      They are both not named, and Swallow has a high BE of 94.

      Hold Roughy for at least another week – even though his BE is a little over 100.

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  23. Looking to do 2 trades this week Mids bench isn’t great with Barrett, Mountford,Hibberd . Mountford > Balic. Hibberd > Fisher. Hopefully to generate a bit of cash.

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  24. Will be trading SPP to Balic but I don’t know if I should also do WHE to Fisher to generate more cash. Don’t have enough to upgrade WHE and I currently have 25 trades before making any this round.

    T/U SPP-Balic and WHE-Fisher

    T/D Just SPP-Balic

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  25. Will be bringing in Balic & Fisher to generate some cash, trading out
    TU – Roughy & Pickett
    TD – Roughy & SPP

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  26. T/up – Swallow to Fisher and Rought to Balic and pocket $540k for upgrades next week

    T/down – Roughead down to Balic and Swallow up to any premium

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  27. Trading out a non playing forward rookie

    Tu: Eddy (more likely to score more than 20 pts)
    Td: picket ( more likely to get another game?)

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  28. Hope you’re all having fine evening

    T/U- Roughy to Balic and Swallow to Pendles (leaving me with SPP > Bont soon to complete the mids)

    T/D- Swallow to Fisher and Turner to Balic (to get that war chest up to $300k for cheap Buddy and Hanners next week ONLY if Buddy finds some form)

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  29. Looking to do a double downgrade this week and then either 1 or 2 upgrades next week (depending on prices and how much is in the bank). Or can go 1 up, 1 down each week. But my major concerns are D. Swallow, O’Meara and Roughead. I was thinking that Roughead is a definite this week and O’Meara as Swallow was dropped. If it was a double downgrade, Fisher and Balic would be the two that come in and leave me with approximately 520k for upgrades. With Roughead and O’Meara being traded this week, I have 763k to spend.

    T/U: Do the double downgrade this week and then upgrade next week.
    T/D: Do one up, one down this week. But who would come in?

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    1. I think Balic is the obvious downgrade choice for the week. So it comes down to bringing a premium mid or premium forward with 546k to spend.
      T/U: premium mid
      T/D: premium forward

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  30. Who to start on field at M8?
    TU: Balic
    TD: Powell-Pepper

    (Note that I’ll take Taranto’s emergency score if he plays well on Fri night)

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  31. Petrevski-Seton to Balic? Already swapped Eddy for Fisher via Tarranto. I feel I need to make two trades this week, with potentially a few players on the bubble next week….

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    1. Cash grabs the next two rounds seems to be a common theme if you have some dead wood. After next weekend it looks very bleak.

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  32. In a quandary: I want to sub in Fisher, but not sure who gets the chop: Eddy or Barrett…

    TU Eddy out

    TD Barrett out

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  33. Decision time.

    T/U Turner out for Cameron and SSP out for Balic.
    Will mean valid is my only playing bench for mid and fwd.
    T/D Double down. Bring Fisher in for pickett/eddy/barret/miles

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  34. T/U: Swallow, WHE out. Fisher, Rocky in
    T/D: Swallow, SPS out. Fisher, Wines in

    Figure WHE will make less money than Rocky will rise from here and rocky is a must

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  35. Who to trade first out of Roughhead and David Swallow. Although Swallow is not playing I think Roughhead is priority due to his high breakdown.

    T/U Roughhead
    T/D Swallow

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  36. Caught in that awkward position of wanting to upgrade non performing rookies but lacking the cash to go to a 550k+ premium. So with that in mind, what should I do this week?

    T/U: Trade Florent and Eddy to Balic and Fisher
    T/D: Trade SPP and Swallow for a premium and either Balic or Frisher.

    FWIW Swallows is M7, SPP M8 with Parfitt/Pickett/Florent on the bench, so one of these roookies will be on field this week regardless.

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  37. T/U: Taranto and Swallow -> Fisher and T.Mitch

    T/D: Taranto and Swallow -> Fisher and Balic this week, and SPP to Bont/Rocky/Sloane next week

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  38. T/U: WHE > Ballic
    Swallow > Wines

    T/D: WHE> Ballic
    Swallow > Pendles

    Or should i wait another week for pendles to drop?

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  39. Making two trades this week
    1) Fisher IN, Swallow OUT
    2) Balic IN for one of:
    TU: Roughead
    TD: WHE
    Comment: Jobe Watson

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  40. Eddy not back after his ‘3 goal haul’ – time to go for Balic?

    TU: Yeah he’s not going to come back and make money, ride Ross Lyon’s selection rollercoaster
    TD: Nah keep it straight forward, skip him, Eddy will come back and make money

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  41. Current Plan:

    for round 6:
    SPS, Picket > Fisher and Balic

    For round 7:
    WHE, Eddy > Black (if he goes well again) and Buddy

    for round 8: Marchbank > Adams
    This will leave me with 20 trades if everthing goes to plan

    TU: Genius
    TD: Maybe think of something else

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  42. Trading OUT Watson & Roughead

    TU) Balic+ Fisher IN with $584k left in the bank for upgrades next week (Swallow + WHE to leave my team next week – both upgrade to premos)

    TD) Balic + Selwood/Treloar $77-140k in the bank (possible downgrades Black, Parsons, McNiece, Melican next week)

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  43. Thinking of moving Pickett & Parfitt on for Fisher & Balic. Doesn’t nett a huge amount of cash in the short term but fingers crossed both of the new guys make some decent money.

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  44. Hey Guys,

    Thoughts on these trades;

    SPP – Fisher
    Hoskin Balic/Black

    Next week Partiff – Dusty (Completed midfield) or 550k forward as i have 3-3 structure atm

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  45. Atley to Fisher
    Roughie to Balic

    Will mean playing 3 rookies in the fwd line.
    TU- Do it
    TD- Skip the roughie trade

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  46. Struggling here…any help greatly appreciated. To get rid of two struggling mid pricers for a high-priced premo or one mid pricer and a rookie for a value pick. Not sure if the extra cost for the high-pricer will hurt cash reserves down the track. Thanks!

    TU: Swallow & O’Meara out for Fisher/Balic & Selwood (highest I can afford)
    TD: Swallow & Taranto out for Fisher/Balic & T.Mitchell (give O’Meara another week)

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  47. I’ve just put in Fisher & Hardwick ahead of Balic. I looked at it from all directions (I think)….have I missed something? Is it just the DPP (which I know is handy)?

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    1. Cheers mate,
      I got Fisher last week, and I’ve already used 24 trades, but I think I need to start generating cash somehow.
      I’ve current got Pickett, Hibberd, and Eddy all on my bench doing nothing.

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  48. I have 4 potential rookies to trade out this week
    Pickett, Barrett, Eddy and T.smith (brought in last week to get yeo and got injured)
    I feel Pickett has to go for Fisher
    So should any of those 3 go for Balic or should i stick with 1 trade
    TU Fisher in
    TD Fisher and Balic in
    Feel free to comment if you have any suggestions

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      1. I was thinking that too as Barrett looks like he could produce some money if he was actually given the chance to play. Eddy doesn’t look like he will get a game in a while as he isn’t even named as an emergency.

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  49. Clayton Oliver or Brad Crouch?

    Want to get a premium mid but on the cheaper end.

    Or just spend my bank on Sloane????

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    1. Clayton and Brad are not yet premium Mids.

      Clayton was a great pick round 1. Now he is $500+K.
      No thanks.

      Sloane is an Uber Premium. But paying $671K โ€ฆ..ouch.

      If you want to save $100K+, get Dusty or Pendles next week.

      Happy coaching.

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  50. Field O’Meara

    TU: Yes
    TD: No

    Also need to field 2 of SPP, Taranto, Parfitt, Fisher, Balic
    Comment for suggestions

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  51. Thought on this weeks trade!!

    J.Billings out for T.Nankervis
    D.Swallow out for Z.Fisher

    251k remaining

    Still tossing up between Fisher & Balic…Tough Call

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  52. Help me please, is this a good move??

    WHE > Macrae
    Marchbank > Balic via DPP (still have Hampton and Newman as cover)

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  53. thoughts on roughead and d swallow to balic and nank as i think that he has the potential to maintain this form for the year.
    T/U: nank will maintain his form – good trade
    T/D: will drop off – look for a better prem mid or fwd under 640k

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  54. started with gawn, went to preuss, then to spencer, no preuss this weekend on field, cant afford nank, is witts my best option, 3 trades in rucks in 4 weeks with i,m just trying to get 2 ruckmen on the field

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  55. Balic locked in for Mountford. Barrett and Hibberd are my two other Mid bench players. Tu: Hibberd > Fisher for some cover on the bench. Td: Spp> Fisher and put some cash in the bank to put towards upgrade next week.

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