This isn’t just about SC scores. Imagine you’re Kevin Sheedy at GWS and the AFL has allowed you to have one but not both. Which one would you pick?
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Gazza’s a year younger and his style of play has been less bash and crash than the Juddster so i’d feel i’d get two more seasons out of Gazza. He’ll still be playing when he’s 32-33, possibly as a more permanent fwd.
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Judd’s ability to shrug tackles is unparallelled and he deals with a tag better. He also has better leadership skills, more hair, and gets the hard ball better than GAJ.
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GAJ has no significant injury lurking in his shadow (Judd-Shoulders). Playing more games by the end of his career is almost a certainty. I better shut up know before i jinx him into an injury. Also GAJ is not noted for being a dirty player and being suspended for it unlike someone else…
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Hey hey hey!!! This poll isn’t about pressure points!!
And I haven’t seen Judd miss a game because of his shoulders the whole time he has been with Carlton. GAJ has missed games regularly – the last only a week ago because of suspect hammies.
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Fair enough. But how long do you back those shoulders for? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years..? I think it is a matter of when not if. But if we are to discuss on field merits only i reckon you could flip a coin and not come out wrong.
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Little bit of extra information:
Gary Ablett
Age, height, weight: 26 (tomorrow) 182cm, 88kg
Games, goals: 174, 231
Best and fairests: B&F 2007-2009, 2nd in 2008, 3rd in 2005, 2006
All-Australian: 2007-08-09
AFL MVP: 2007-08-09
Brownlow: 2009, 3rd in 2008
Premierships: 2007-09
Strengths: An ability to keep his feet and rarely get taken down in a tackle. Excellent stamina, good top range speed, tough over the ball and team orientated. Also kicks the team lifting goal and can take an overhead grab one-out.
Weaknesses: Nothing obvious
Chris Judd
Age, height, weight: 26, 189cm, 87kg
Games, goals: 182, 168
Best and fairests: West Coast: 2004-06, Carlton 2008-09, 2nd in 2003-05, 3rd in 2002.
All-Australian: 2004-06-08-09
AFL MVP: 2006
Brownlow: 2004, 2nd 2009, 3rd 2006
Premierships: 2006
Strengths: Like Ablett, virtually impossible to tackle. Non-stop running, prolific team-lifting possession, tough as, natural on-field leadership, Judd covers most bases.
Weaknessess: Is he an elite kick or just a good one? I favour the latter. Not a great set shot for goal.
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Judd isn’t a great overhead mark and he turned it over a fair bit against the pies so can we rely on his disposal under pressure?
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HGL
At the Eagles he used to go forward to break the tag ala GAJ now and took some excellent contested pack marks while averaging 105 goals per game. At the Blues they can’t afford to give him this role as it detracts too much from the midfield output.
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* 1.5 goals actually
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Judd is a gun, no doubt. but….did we see his best @ West Coast?
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I’m taking Jesus.
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Rebecca Twigley nuff said.
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Lauren Phillips had her covered…. how’d he let that one slip away!
I can see another poll coming on!
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funnily enough, I was thinking the same thing, but couldn’t remember her name -maybe she doesn’t want to live on the Gold Coast
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BREAKING NEWS!!!! PODS HAS BEEN DROPPED!!! WILL CONFIRM SHORTLY!!
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I picked GAJ in the vote, but you couldn’t go wrong with either.
Given that the rest of your team is likely to be smaller bodies, you’d probably go Judd for the hard ball gets – He has proven himself in a non-superior midfield in recent years, whereas GAJ hasn’t had the ability to do so.
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PODS IS OUT WITH GENERAL SORENESS!!!!! AND DYLAN ROBERTON IS OUT ASWELL!!! THERE GOES MY PLAN!!!
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Me to wanted to trade Hall for Pods
Jack Watts in
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Same, time for plan b? Do you have a plan b?
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No money
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because i also have Brennan was trading him 4 Franklin i think
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I have Brennan and Hall as well. I am gonna be patient with Brennan as i have Fyfe and Rockliff on the bench. As for Hall, it’s a hard call, will he get more of the ball, will he stand tall, will he return to NAB form after all?
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CROWS
B: Michael Doughty, Ben Rutten, Phil Davis
HB: Nathan van Berlo, Nathan Bock, Simon Goodwin
C: Myke Cook, Brent Reilly, Bernie Vince
HF: Richard Douglas, Kurt Tippett, Tyson Edwards
F: Jared Petrenko, Taylor Walker, Scott Stevens
Foll: Ivan Maric, Scott Thompson, Andrew McLeod
I/C: Patrick Dangerfield, Jason Porplyzia, Chris Schmidt, Matthew Jaensch
Emg: Jonathon Griffin, Jack Gunston, Tony Armstrong
In: Dangerfield, Walker
Out: Graham Johncock (shoulder), Brett Burton
NORTH MELBOURNE
B: Michael Firrito, Scott Thompson, Brady Rawlings
HB: Nathan Grima, Lachie Hansen, Daniel Pratt
C: Jack Ziebell, Ben Cunnington, Ryan Bastinac
HF: Aaron Edwards, Josh Smith, Brent Harvey
F: Daniel Wells, David Hale, Lindsay Thomas
R: Hamish McIntosh, Andrew Swallow, Levi Greenwood
I/C: Scott McMahon, Todd Goldstein, Cruize Garlett, Sam Wright
EMG: Nathan O’Keefe, Matt Campbell, Leigh Harding
In: Pratt, Smith, Greenwood
Out: Leigh Adams (hamstring), Liam Anthony (shoulder), Ben Warren
Essendon
B: Heath Hocking, Dustin Fletcher, Mark McVeigh
HB: Brent Prismall, Cale Hooker, Nathan Lovett-Murray
C: Jake Melksham, Jobe Watson, Sam Lonergan
HF: Angus Monfries, Scott Gumbleton, David Zaharakis
F: David Hille, Michael Hurley, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich
I/C (from): Mark Williams, Leroy Jetta, Travis Colyer, Courtenay Dempsey, David Myers, Jarrod Atkinson, Ben Howlett
In: Williams, Jetta, Colyer, Myers
Out: Henry Slattery (back)
Collingwood
B: Heath Shaw, Ben Reid, Ben Johnson
HB: Harry O’Brien, Nick Maxwell, Alan Toovey
C: Luke Ball, Dane Swan, Steele Sidebottom
HF: Shane O’Bree, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak
F: Dayne Beams, John Anthony, Leon Davis
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C: Nathan Brown, Chris Dawes, Brent Macaffer, Cameron Wood
Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Simon Prestigiacomo, Jaxson Barham
In: John Anthony
Out: Paul Medhurst (foot strain)
BULLDOGS
B: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Dale Morris
HB: Ryan Hargrave, Tom Williams, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Ryan Griffen, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Robert Murphy, Mitch Hahn, Shaun Higgins
F: Jarrad Grant, Barry Hall, Josh Hill
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Daniel Giansiracusa
I/C: Dylan Addison, Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Brennan Stack
Emg: Nathan Eagleton, Brodie Moles, Easton Wood
In: Minson
Out: Everitt (ankle)
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Hawthorn changes
In: Burgoyne, Franklin, Mitchell, Murphy, Savage, Skipper, Stokes
Out: Bateman (suspended), Ladson (omitted), Morton (omitted), Shiels (omitted)
FREO
B: Garrick Ibbotson, Chris Tarrant, Ryan Crowley
HB: Greg Broughton, Luke McPharlin, Roger Hayden
C: Adam McPhee, David Mundy, Paul Hasleby
HF: Michael Johnson, Matthew Pavlich, Stephen Hill
F: Matthew de Boer, Chris Mayne, Hayden Ballantyne
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Michael Barlow, Paul Duffield
I/C: Nathan Fyfe, Rhys Palmer, Anthony Morabito, Alex Silvagni
Emg: Kepler Bradley, Nick Suban, Antoni Grover
In: Garrick Ibbotson, Alex Silvagni
Out: Kepler Bradley, Dylan Roberton (soreness)
SYDNEY
B: Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards, Tadhg Kennelly
HB: Martin Mattner, Heath Grundy, Nick Malceski
C: Jarrad McVeigh, Brett Kirk, Nick Smith
HF: Ryan O’Keefe, Adam Goodes, Josh Kennedy
F: Jesse White, Daniel Bradshaw, Lewis Jetta
Foll: Mike Pyke, Jude Bolton, Kieren Jack
I/C: Daniel Hannebery, Henry Playfair, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Gary Rohan
Emg: Paul Bevan, Matt O’Dwyer, Campbell Heath
In: Henry Playfair, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Daniel Hannebery
Out: Jarred Moore (ankle), Ed Barlow, Shane Mumford (suspended)
DEES
B: Jack Grimes, Matthew Warnock, Jared Rivers
HB: Cameron Bruce, James Frawley, Colin Garland
C: James McDonald, Jordie McKenzie, Aaron Davey
HF: Jamie Bennell, Matthew Bate, Jack Watts
F: Nathan Jones, Daniel Hughes, Brad Green
Foll: Mark Jamar, Brent Moloney, Tom Scully
I/C: Paul Johnson, Colin Sylvia, Jack Trengove, Clint Bartram
Emg: Neville Jetta, Jake Spencer, Lynden Dunn
In: Jack Watts
Out: Lynden Dunn
EAGLES
B: Will Schofield, Darren Glass, Beau Waters
HB: Lewis Stevenson, Eric MacKenzie, Shannon Hurn
C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert
HF: Brad Sheppard, Josh Kennedy, Ashton Hams
F: Mark Nicoski, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Adam Selwood, Tom Swift
I/C: Patrick McGinnity, Ben McKinley, Nic Naitanui, Scott Selwood
Emg: Mitchell Brown, Bradd Dalziell, Ashley Hansen
In: Scott Selwood
Out: Bradd Dalziell
LIONS
B: Jed Adcock, Matt Maguire, Andrew Raines
HB: James Hawksley, Brent Staker, Ashley McGrath
C: Michael Rischitelli, Daniel Rich, Justin Sherman
HF: Luke Power, Jonathan Brown, Cheynee Stiller
F: Todd Banfield, Brendan Fevola, James Polkinghorne
Foll: Matthew Leuenberger, Joel Patfull, Simon Black
I/C: Jack Redden, Tom Rockliff, Amon Buchanan, Matt Austin
Emg: Travis Johnstone, Pearce Hanley, Tom Collier
In: Amon Buchanan, Matt Maguire, Joel Patfull, Andrew Raines
Out: Josh Drummond (knee), Jared Brennan (ankle), Pearce Hanley, Travis Johnstone
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TIGERS
B: Kelvin Moore, Will Thursfield, Luke McGuane
HB: Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio, Chris Newman
C: Shane Edwards, Daniel Jackson, Jeromey Webberley
HF: Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Nason
F: Robin Nahas, Alex Rance, Nathan Foley
Foll: Tyrone Vickery, Trent Cotchin, Richard Tambling
I/C (from): Angus Graham, Graham Polak, Tom Hislop, Andrew Collins, Mitch Farmer, David Astbury, Matt White
In: Nathan Foley, Tom Hislop, Angus Graham, Mitch Farmer
Out: Dean Polo (suspended)
Carlton
B: Simon White, Michael Jamison, Jordan Russell
HB: Dennis Armfield, Bret Thornton, Kane Lucas
C: Heath Scotland, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy
HF: Kade Simpson, Ryan Houlihan, Andrew Carrazzo
F: Jarrad Waite, Setanta O’hAilpin, Eddie Betts
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Aaron Joseph, Chris Judd
I/C (from): Steven Browne, Jeff Garlett, Lachie Henderson, Sam Jacobs, Chris Johnson, Mitch Robinson, Chris Yarran
In: Steven Browne, Lachie Henderson, Mitch Robinson
PORT
B: Jacob Surjan, Alipate Carlile, Troy Chaplin
HB:Paul Stewart, Chad Cornes, Steven Salopek
C: Danyle Pearce, Domenic Cassisi, Jason Davenport
HF: Matt Thomas, Justin Westhoff, David Rodan
F: Robbie Gray, Brett Ebert, Daniel Motlop
R: Dean Brogan, Travis Boak, Kane Cornes
Interchange from: Tom Logan, Jay Schulz, Cameron Hitchcock, Daniel Stewart, Jackson Trengove, Josh Carr, Jay Nash
IN: Carr, Hitchcock, Nash, Schulz, D. Stewart
OUT: Nathan Krakouer (groin), Warren Tredrea (ankle)
Saints
Backs: James Gwilt / Zac Dawson / Sam Gilbert
Half backs: Baker / Sam Fisher / Jason Blake
Centreline: Clint Jones / Nick Dal Santo / Farren Ray
Half forwards: Andrew McQualter / Brendon Goddard / Adam Schneider
Forwards: Jason Gram / Justin Koschitzke / Stephen Milne
Followers: Michael Gardiner / Lenny Hayes / Leigh Montagna
Interchange From: David Armitage / Raphael Clarke / Robert Eddy
Jarryn Geary / Nick Heyne / Ben McEvoy / Rhys Stanley
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GEELONG
B: Andrew Mackie, Matthew Scarlett, Josh Hunt
HB: Corey Enright, Harry Taylor, Darren Milburn
C: James Kelly, Cameron Ling, Jimmy Bartel
HF: Steve Johnson, Cameron Mooney, Travis Varcoe
F: Mathew Stokes, Tom Hawkins, Gary Ablett
Foll: Mark Blake, Joel Selwood, Paul Chapman
I/C: Shannon Byrnes, Simon Hogan, Tom Lonergan, David Wojcinski
Emg: Mitchell Duncan, Dawson Simpson, Ryan Gamble
In: Mathew Stokes
Out: James Podsiadly (soreness)
Pods is out! Jack Watts gets his first game for this year. Maguire and Silvangi are back in while Robertson’s out. Dangerfield is back from injury and Paul Medhurst is out with a foot strain.
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Sambo, we’re going to have to get you a login so you can post these to the site rather than in comments.
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As much as it pains me to say it because of his disloyalty, Judd is the master.
Although in raw skills and stats they are similar, he brings more to the table than GAJ in terms leadership and inspiration ability under adverse conditions. Has proven himself in a strong team as premiership skipper and currently in a weak lineup where he gets a strong tag weekly and little team mate support.
I hope GAJ goes to GC17 to prove that he can also develop leadership skills and show that he can perform consistently in an underachieving team.
I also really hope he announces the move soon so Bomber can rest those sore hammys more often as I don’t have him.
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Nice Blue Baggers Bagging, Deano.
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Call it as I see it!
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I’m trading out Bob Murphy/Rioli, and I would like some opinions regarding which combo I should run with
1. Pavlich/Daniel Hughes (Melb)
2. Didak/Rohan
3. Varcoe/Fyfe
4. a better duo that I haven’t thought of
F/L is; ROK/Higgins/Gia/jPod/Ballantyne/Bob/Grundy….(Rioli/Rocky)
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2. Didak/Rohan, They are both DPP and I think Gary Rohan will play more games then Hughes and Fyfe ( who I got last week ).
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Cheers Paul, I appreciate your opinion.
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how much coin?
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I have 54,100k in reserve Mav.
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I wouldn’t go for Didak, partly because he plays for Collingwood and partly because you would be paying top dollar. I think your better off not placing all your eggs in one basket. Trade one down and hold off on the other until you can spot someone of real value in the fwd line who would end up being a keeper. I know it’s easier said than done, because i am having similar issues.
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Brown is a bargain. He is not in great form but his avg is still 109.
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I’m not sold on JB’s fitness, I have him in my DT, and am wondering if I should trade him out.
Didak has scored 100+ every week bar two and is a traditional 100+ SC scorer. He is presently 45k under his pre-season value and I can’t see him getting any cheaper.
I like Rohan, and agree with a couple of opinions expressed on this site that he is going to get better.
I’m not concerned that Didak plays for Collingwood because I don’t hate them.
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Fyfe in for ziebell out? Will fyfe be playing much?
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I’m not sold on Fyfe yet, good SC/DT ratio though which is promising for a young kid.
SC/DT
268/189
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GAJ is the best since GA Senior.
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