2020 Team Preview Collingwood

Written by Thommo on February 12 2020

Forever hated?

Don’t get too excited Pies fans: With two exceptions, you are not overly Supercoach relevant in 2020!

Defenders

Lock and Load: Jeremy Howe ($431,900) had an interrupted preseason in 2019 requiring a corked thigh to be drained in January, but he started the season well with scores of 89, 99 and 103 points. Unfortunately the mounting injury toll at Collingwood forced him to play more as a tall defender and his possession count dropped away to average just 16 disposals, 6 marks and 77.9 SC ppg up to Collingwood’s Round 13 bye.

A calf injury forced him out immediately following the bye (with a score of 23 points in Round 14) and when he returned he looked more like his old self averaging 20.75 disposals, 8.5 marks and 100 SC points per match. At 29 years of age, if Howe can get a full preseason under his belt he should return to his regular average of 90-95ppg. He does tend to pump out the odd poor score so I don’t think he will ever achieve an average over 100ppg for an entire season meaning he will likely average slightly less than the top 6 defenders.

It is nice watching him sit on people’s heads when he’s in your team though.

Howe high?

Feeling LuckyOle’ Steak  Knives, Jack Crisp ($482,800), just continues to rack up games and win plenty of the ball. While he was a value pick up for the Pies, he wasn’t such a good selection for Supercoaches in 2019 as he dropped his average from 96ppg to 88.9ppg. Spending a bit more time in the midfield, Crisp increased his disposal number from 23 to 25 but dropped his disposal efficiency which caused the drop in Supercoach output.

With his amazing durability, Crisp will be a handy draft option but he will need a career best year to push into the top 6 defenders in 2020.

Money Makers: Maybe some of the Pies supporters will disagree with me here, but I can’t see any of the Pies’ defensive rookies playing a significant role in 2020. Trent Bianco (Mid-Def $117,300), a small defender who co-captained the Oakleigh chargers, seems the most likely defensive debutant having good skills and an excellent footy iQ but once again, I don’t think the Pies will provide many rookies this year.

Midfielders

Lock and Load: We have long been awaiting the arrival of Adam Treloar ($615,800) as a true midfield premium after he tantalized us with an average of 111ppg in 2016. Well, finally, it has happened! On the back of a career high 34 disposals per match, Treloar averaged 114ppg in 2019 and more importantly he was the seventh highest scoring midfielder on total points for the season.

Considering Treloar barely misses a game due to injury (with the exception of the double hamstring of 2018), he seems a safe bet to give you 110-115ppg across the season. Just be prepared for the odd lower-than-expected score as Treloar can struggle with disposal efficiency some weeks and was ranked 9th in the league for clangers in 2019.

Treloar was happy to become the Pies #1 midfielder.

Feeling lucky:  He’s not very cheap due to an average of 96ppg in 2019, but Taylor Adams ($525,100) has the ability to score premium numbers as we saw in 2017 when he averaged 108ppg across 22 matches. This is due to his ability to rack up big numbers with 30 disposals (and 5 marks and 6.4 tackles) per match in his career best 2017 season.

As with Treloar his questionable disposal efficiency holds him back somewhat and it seems unlikely that he will average over 110ppg across a season. If he is fit however, he could be a cheap mid to start the season.

If he is fit… Unfortunately after only playing 10 games in 2019, Adams has suffered a lower leg injury in December so wait and see if he can finally shake the moonboot before the preseason!

Money MakerIf you care about players burning up the track in the preseason then Jay Rantall ($117,300) is your man after defeating Tom Phillips in the Pies time trial. The former basketballer seems physically ready but probably needs time in the VFL to develop.

Tyler Brown ($123,900) has the famous moniker but he didn’t play much elite junior football in his draft year of 2017 so he has needed time to develop in the VFL. Signs were good in 2019 and he was close to his debut so he might finally make an appearance in he seniors in 2020. He seems a bit handball happy and he’s not a big disposal accumulator so I question whether he will be relevant in Supercoach.

 Rucks

Lock and Load: This is what we came here for: Brodie Grundy ($705,900)! After an averagesof 130ppg in the last two seasons, the selection of Grundy will set you back a lot of cash but he will give you a captain score most weeks. He is a bomb-proof selection because he rarely gets injured, he racks up midfielder-like possessions and he is young enough that he can get better as a tap ruckman.

Many Supercoaches are considering the idea of starting without Grundy and/or Gawn, but it is extremely difficult to find the cash to upgrade to him during the season. If you have to start without one of them, I’d take the Bun over the Beard.

The second coming?

Don’t overthink it, just select him!

Money Maker: The Pies only have the one option should Grundy actually get injured: Darcy Cameron (Ruck-Fwd $123,900).  It’s very unlikely he will play much but there are worse ideas than throwing him on the bench just in case the great man goes down with injury. In addition, he has forward eligibility for the old Ruck-Fwd switcheroo!

It would be nice to see the big fella finally earn his second game after spending three years in the NEAFL for Sydney.

Forwards

Feeling Lucky:  Jordan De Goey ($473,800) has been one of the more over-hyped players of Supercoach in the last year or two but he is yet to push his average over 90ppg. As with Mills at Sydney, he has the skills to score well as a midfielder but he doesn’t spend enough time there to score consistently. Having said that, De Goey appeared to spend a bit more time in the midfield late in 2019 with a season-high 28 disposals and 118 SC points in Round 19 against Richmond, but he only surpassed 20 disposals 4 times in 2019 and scored just 5 SC tonnes.

He’s a gun and he’ll tear the odd game apart, but with his forward role and dodgy hamstrings I wouldn’t select him in Supercoach.

Pies fans, tell me which relevant Pies I missed. Apologies for not mentioning Pendlebury for the first time in my Collingwood Review…

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  1. Just out of curiosity, I noticed many coaches have selected the
    C. Comben – D. Cameron (Ruck-Fwd) Combination, which seems quite logical,
    as you can rotate them between positions if need be…

    However, wouldn’t it make more sense to throw a 102k donut on the bench instead of having both of them? Maximises cash, and it gives you the donut option of course. Realistically, how often will comben/cameron get a game this season?

    Tell me if I am out of my brains people, but just something I have been thinking about over the last week or so.

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    1. I think most people have picked Comben due to North Melbourne’s draw. Provides people plenty of opportunity to loophole him with their VC as NM play plenty of Sat night/Sunday games (15 I think)

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      1. I think Ollie is onto something.
        With pies / Grundy / Cameron playing later than dees / Gawn in something like 12 of the 15 games you still get most of the loopholes by sticking to Cameron as R3. Plus, Gives you Grundy injury back up and one less spud.

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    2. Even if D.Cameron doesn’t get picked, Comben will likely be a popular pick Rd1.

      People value the R/F DPP status quite highly as they can have a swingman cover the ruck duties if needed. Options are limited this season though, but we could be surprised with the likes of Ceglar if he does take the #1 ruck spot as he average 96 in the last 3 games last season playing that role.

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    3. Totally agree…Comden does the loop job for the vast majority of the season, so why another donut not making cash. I’m thinking Patton as f6 for the ruck cover…he also has a friendly by and hawks dont get recycled bigs to sit on the bench.

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  2. Thommo…nice work…its the bun for a sure starter, and possibly Treloar for an upgrade during the season. Pies look good enough to lose a prelim or granny which would be wonderful result !!! LOL.

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  3. Hey thommo. With all the talk about doedee, Roberton, I’m actually interested in quaynor(probably butchered that) as a solid stepping stone. Considering I’m chasing a 500ish K defender for him to step up to. Any though on him achieving this? Say him reaching 380-420k?

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    1. I looked at Quaynor but I just couldn’t suggest him based on 3x59s and an 82 last year. That could change if he destroys the preseason games as he does seem to have a SC friendly role.

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  4. What your thoughts on Sier?

    With Adams being injured I think he can make that midfield spot his own.

    Would you say the Pendles move to the HBF is actually going to happen or is he going to play a midfield floating into the backline?

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    1. I read on Twitter that Rupert WILLS is apparently ahead of SIER (just) for that defensive MID spot. We’ll see.
      Dunno on Pendles, sorry.

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    2. I spent more time reading this article than writing as I was trying to find some mid-price bargains but players like Wills, Sier and Phillips are awkwardly priced and have never scored consistently even if they have decent ceilings.

      The simple answer for me is: They are all too risky but preseason watchlist them!

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  5. Thanks Thommo. The bun is a gun.

    I’m also considering the ex-bun again in 2020.

    Darcy MOORE scored consecutive tons before going down in Rd17 with a cruel 13pts that derailed my top1,000 chances. This and his early return for finals make him underpriced. He also scored 114 and 113 in finals.

    If I don’t start him he is certainly on my watch list. Age, games, seasons and draft pick could not be more befitting of a potential Breakout. Thoughts?!

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    1. As, he is very tempting, but until he can put 18 games together in one season, I’m not interested. We all agree its pts not averages that get results.

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    2. $405k for a guy who is injury prone and mixed plenty of 60s with a few 90s and 100s? If he was $250-$300k he’s worth the risk but not at $400k

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    3. Massive no for me AS.

      If he was sub 350k maybe. But at 400k there is really little upside for mine. Thats too expensive to be a stepping stone and theres no chance (in my opinion) his even top 10.

      Laird, Lloyd, Sicily, Docherty, Hurn, Houli, Houston, Daniel, Stewart, Ryan, Rich, Crisp all ahead of him even if he does stay fit i believe.

      If it was in the forward line then I wouldnt mind it at all but the defence has so many safe options for just 80-100k more! Asking for trouble in my opinion.

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  6. My sources are saying the Tigers are chasing him for next year (Rance replacement). Not sure the pies can keep everyone.
    Wonder what odds I could get for that

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    1. Tigers are vocal about their intention to get Moore, it’s the only reason that he made the Vic side for S.O.O maybe 10-15 better options for the Vics but Dimma will always put his wants and needs before the game, Cotchin got a gig FFS

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