Rate My Final Team

Written by Thommo on August 23 2018

Emmaย has asked for a Rate My Final Team thread. Since she has asked, she will receive.

As Emma suggested, state your team then critique that bad-boy (sexist I know, but rate that bad-girl just sounded wrong). What would you have done differently if you could relive your season?

To get the ball rolling, I’ll come clean with my ‘meh’ team:

DEFENCE: Jake Lloyd (SYD), Elliott Yeo (WC), Kade Simpson (CAR), Rory Laird (ADE), Shannon Hurn (WC), Tom McDonald (MEL)

Bench: Joel Smith (MEL), Lachlan Murphy (ADE)

MIDS: Tom Mitchell (HAW), Patrick Dangerfield (GEE), Patrick Cripps (CAR), Clayton Oliver (MEL), Stephen Coniglio (GWS), Marcus Bontempelli (WB), Dustin Martin (COL), Scott Pendlebury (COL)

Bench: Brayden Sier (COL), Paul Ahern (NM), Callan England (WC)

RUCK: Brodie Grundy (COL), Max Gawn (MEL) Bench: Olango (WC)

FORWARD: Lance Franklin (SYD), Devon Smith (ESS), Chad Wingard (POR), Justin Westhoff (POR), Isaac Heeney (SYD), Toby McLean (WB)

Bench: Christian Petracca (MEL), Tim Smith (MEL)

And my thoughts on this team?

I started with too many duds, jumped on a few players at too higher price and selected some questionable rookies which affected my cash flow. That meant I couldn’t afford players like Macrae and Dunkley at season’s end when I wanted them. So I have a few middling premiums rather than the very best.

My biggest regret (and embarrassing admission) was panicking just before the Sydney vs GWS match last week and trading out Parker, who was projected to struggle, for Bontempelli. It cost me 35 points, my last trade and a possible donut or rookie score should Buddy and the Bont now miss.

At least my cash league opponents should be happy this week! Right, Huttabito?

Over to you now, coaches. Let us know the deepest, darkest secrets of your Supercoach soul.

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18 thoughts on “Rate My Final Team”

  1. Lloyd, Yeo, Simpson, Laird, Crisp, Macdonald (Austin, Ridley)

    Mitchell, Dangerfield, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Merrett, Crouch, Conigilio (Ahern, J.Smith, Giro)

    Gawn, Martin (Olango)

    Franklin, D.Smith, Westhoff, Gray, Heeney, Mclean (Spargo, T.Smith)

    1 trade left either Buddy or Titch goes awaiting on news if Buddy will play or not. Still filthy i went Crisp over Brayshaw in round 18 points loss would of had me in the top 10 currently!! ๐Ÿ™

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  2. Lloyd, simpson, yeo, laird, mcdonald, brayshaw (howe, lienert)

    Titch, danger, dusty, coniglio, cripps, jelly, ablett, crouch (ahern, ed phillips, joel smith)

    Gawn, grundy (olango)

    Buddy, d smith, mclean, gray, heeney, walters (ryan, dear)

    Main mistakes were
    -starting hibberd, jack graham and billings and then holding billings till the byes.
    – “Upgrading ” tim kelly to rockliff
    – the walters merry go round, started with him, traded him out then traded him back in
    – overlooking lloyd for tmac when they were both priced around 520k
    – using my last trade to swap degoey to lloyd instead of howe. Who would’ve thought the guy with bone stress would be back before the guy with a corkie! FUNB

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    1. No, Billings was not a bad choice Joey-Jo-Jo! He’s proven a good player when the coach plays him where he belongs!
      Blame Richo, not yourself!

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  3. Lloyd, Yeo, Simpson, Laird, Hurley, Webster (Austin, J. Smith)

    Mitchell, Dangerfield, Cripps, Oliver, Merrett, Coniglio, Selwood, Martin (Dahlhaus, Giro, Dawson)

    Gawn, Jacobs (McInerney)

    Menegola, Franklin, D. Smith, Gray, Heeney, McLean (Ahern, Battle)

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  4. Yeo, Simpson, Laird, Crisp, McDonald, Webster (Doedee, Mihocek)

    Mitchell, Cripps, Kelly, Macrae, Oliver, Crouch, Coniglio, Martin (Ahern, J.Smith, Trengove)

    Grundy, Gawn (Olango)

    Mundy, Westhoff, Gray, Heeney, McLean, Fritsch (Guelfi, C.Moore)

    BADS:
    starting with Lambert, Mills and Townsend, the injury-prone GAJ and KPP Buddy
    some rookie downgrade picks: Spargo, Ridley, Ryan (post-injury) and Trengove
    bringing in Deledio!
    bringing in NicNat as a steping stone to Grundy

    GOODS:
    bringing in Westhoff and Coniglio (both Rd3), Sicily and Macrae (both Rd4) and Mundy and Oliver (Rd7 and 8) – all ended up being great choices
    keeping Doedee, Fritsch and T.Kelly longer than most (two til then end)

    Bad luck with injuries early – GAJ, Buddy, Walters, Deledio, Mills and later Sicily, Fyfe and Macrae, but
    relatively good luck later in the season with NO TRADES LEFT for way too long.

    Note to self: only pick uber elites at season start and NEVER again go older, injury-prone players or KPPs (at least not pre-byes). SAVE THOSE TRADES!!!

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  5. Lloyd, Yeo, Simpson, Laird, Hurley, Lienert (Ridley, Johnstone )

    Mitchell, Dangerfield, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Coniglio, J.kelly, Martin (Sier, Dawson, Powell )

    Gawn, Grundy (Olongo)

    TMac, Robinson,D. Smith, Gray, Heeney, McLean (Ahern, Battle)

    2 trades left and 305k

    Would appreciate any advice on how to finalise team. Obvious one is Lienert to Brayshaw/Hurn/Crisp but I am thinking about benching him and if he scores 85+ I would take his score. I think there are more points to gain with Macrae, Dunkley, Menagola but a hard choice out of McLean/Robinson as to who to upgrade. My gut feel is that McLean is nearly shot and wonโ€™t be having a big game against Tigers. Robinsonโ€™s last three have been good and he is at home.

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    1. Maybe go Lienert and Ahern out, then swing McDonald to defense and bring in two forwards (or keep McDonald up front and bring in 1 def and one 1 fwd). Rough calculation, you’d have about 930k, so you could do something like:

      Taranto and Harmes, or maybe Billings / Edwards / Lambert.
      Defenders in that range would be Himmelberg / Salem / Crisp.

      Any of those guys will outscore Lienert (you’d think) and with St. Kilda (Battle) playing Sunday, you can loophole one of the forwards that you’re not as sure on in order to maximize your points.

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  6. DEF: E. Yeo, A. Brayshaw, K. Simpson, R. Laird, J. Crisp, A. Kennedy (B. Mihocek, J. Ridley)

    MID: T. Mitchell, P. Dangerfield, P. Cripps, C. Oliver, M. Crouch, S. Coniglio, L. Shuey, J. Kennedy (P. Ahern, D. Barry, J. Dawson)

    RUCK: M. Gawn, B. Grundy (T. Olango)

    FWD: T. Hawkins, D. Mundy, D. Smith, J. Westhoff, I. Heeney, T. McLean (T. Smith, L. Keeffe)

    No trades left.

    Decently happy with my final team, bad luck with injuries early (Buddy, Kruezer) and form (Zorko, Lambert, Hibberd) took a few trades away from me too early, as well as my best trade in all year in Darling (traded in at round 8) taken out with injury didn’t help. All in all, I think I had a respectable season, I am currently sitting around the 2.5k mark. I still learned a lot this season and am looking forward to taking that into next season!

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      1. Read an article on the AFL website today that the Hawks and Tigers have never played each other in the Finals series, which I thought was kinda crazy seeing as how long both clubs have been around.

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  7. DEF: Lloyd, Yeo, Simpson, Laird, T Mac, Hurley (Austin, Heron)

    MID: Titch, Danger, Cripps, Macrae, Oliver, Neale, Cogs, Dusty (Giro, Barry Aka Captain Barry, Dawson)

    RUC: Grundy, Gawn (Lycett)

    FWD: Menegola, D Smith, R Gray, Heeney, McLean, The Hoff (Battle and Ahern)

    Biggest mistakes: Starting with Hibberd and Billings then holding both till way after their byes. Also Starting with Zorko who came good after a while but was a real pain in the butt for a while. Starting with a Danger fund rather than someone scoring points. Bringing in Hurley over Brayshaw weeks ago.
    Also had to trade Kelly out week 4 after his injury then never traded him back in

    Not so bad but a slight waste of cash, having Lycett all year. He started as R2 but after Grundy started to emerge as top 2 ruc material. Traded English out and kept Lycett as cover just incase one of the big two was rested or acquired a short term injury. Thought it could have been great not copping a donut or a forced ruck trade. However Big Maxi and Grundy have remained strong all year and Lycett sits on the pine as $457,000 worth of unused cover (boy did it sting 2 weeks ago when he outscored Gawn and the difference in points cost me a knockout final)

    Overall pretty happy with the Final team. Coming home strong really just needed to start faster.

    Cheers Thommo for the thread! Just thought it would be interesting to see how others teams turned out.
    I know it’s a bit of a joke and I do like a good joke (and don’t think I’m having a go at you at because I’m not at all) but I’d just like to say there’s no need to worry about calling anything sexist on here. That’s all a bit of BS anyway. AFL is a sport played by men. Yes there is now AFLW but that’s not what this version of supercoach is about (Forgive me if I’m wrong but I think the Salamander came up with something for AFLW earlier in the year). No need to tip-toe through the tulips when choosing describing words. I don’t know about the other ‘ladies, girls, chicks, women or whatever’ on here but I’m not about to get on some feminist high-horse because someone used a male context rather than a female or gender neutral context, like I said I feel it’s a bit of BS. You said ‘badboys’ that’s because they are men. Hopefully I speak for all the girls out there when I say who gives a damn about labels, footy is footy we all enjoy it for what it is we need to stop some of this PC crap in a PC mad world.
    Cheers Emma

    Oh and Happy Birthday Thommo!

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    1. Solid rant, Emma. Particularly after the Waleed Aly controversy during the week. Political correctness has gone crazy whether it be about sex, race or religion.

      Never fear though, I was simply trying – and clearly failing – to be funny! I tell my two daughters, wife and female dog that men are better all the time.

      Now if I could just get them to stop laughing!

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      1. Cheers Thommo. Sorry for the rant. You’re comment was funny, I took it as a joke. I hear men and women jokes all the time and rest assured I get back what I receive but its all in good fun. I think society just needs to pull it’s head out off its own backside and realise a jokes a joke or that we don’t have to turn ourselves inside out to please everyone. Yes some terribly racist, sexist, religonist anything else ist shit has been said and done in the past but we all need to get the heck over ourselves and enjoy the world a bit more
        Rant Over, back to supercoach

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  8. DEF: Yeo, Simpson, Laird, Crisp, Tuohy, Ellis (Mihocek, Keeffe)

    MID: Mitchell, Macrae, Cripps, Dangerfield, Oliver, Neale, Merrett, Bontempelli (Ahern, Giro, Dawson)

    RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Olango)

    FWD: Franklin, Smith, Heeney, McDonald, McLean, Gunston (Curnow, T. Smith)

    Remaining Salary: $16,600
    Trades left: 1 (yes, really!)
    Rank: 1312

    I’m not quite sure to do with that last trade โ€“I’ve actually never had trades left this late in the season before. I don’t have any injuries to tend to as yet (although that could change โ€“ I have seen Buddy and Bontempelli’s names floating around on here), so assuming it stays that way, I’m not sure what there is for me to do. I’d love to upgrade Ellis to a proper premium, but I don’t have anywhere near enough money for that. Still, his recent record against the Bulldogs is pretty decent, and in any case, he has done his job well: in combination with Charlie Curnow, he has created a surplus player, allowing my swinging bench system to operate as well as it has (this is probably one reason why I still have a trade left). Would it be entirely wasteful to finish the season with an unused trade? I suppose if worst comes to worst, I could swap a player with an iffy record against their upcoming opponent for a player with a better one (although this can backfire โ€“ see last week’s trade of Parker to Macrae).

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    1. Trade away. No point getting to the end and going ‘oh what could have been’. However in saying that I’d wait till last minute incase Buddy or Bont are late outs

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  9. I’ll preface this by saying that this is by far my highest-ranking SC season (230th right now). I have one trade left (probably Walters out) but only $700, not even enough for a decent year-end footy trip like these blokes deserve.

    DEF – Yeo / Simpson / Laird / Lloyd / Brayshaw / McDonald // BLynch / Murphy
    MID – Mitchell / Dangerfield / Oliver / Cripps / Macrae / Neale / Coniglio / Crouch // Ahern / Giro / JSmith
    RUC – Grundy / Gawn // Olango
    FWD – Heeney / McLean / Wingard / DSmith / Taranto / Gray // Walters / TSmith

    What worked:
    Trading out players I didn’t think I could trust (and the opposite), which helped me dump some under-performers before it was too late (e.g., Kreuzer-> Grundy in round 4, which actually made money; Billings-> McLean in round 5; Petracca out in round 8; and JPK -> Macrae round 20).
    What didn’t work:
    Taking injury-prone players on the cheap hoping they could get back to their best. Walters in round 11; was serviceable and wasn’t much else around that price.
    JJK in round 13; probably worst trade result I’ve had all year, except for maybe…
    JPK in round 16; proceeded to score 103 / 27 / 111 / 74 and lose 100k in value.
    If I had it all again…
    I was pretty happy with my starting squad but I should not have started with Dangerfield or Franklin (slot this under the ‘don’t pick premiums that haven’t had a pre-season); and the mid-pricers Petracca and Billings did not come off well.

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