Rate My Team III

Written by Schwarzwalder on January 26 2017

With the official opening of Supercoach, the first drafts are coming in thick and fast.ย  Get your team rated here by the SCT Coaches……..

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  1. My team hasn’t changed that much in the last couple of weeks. My “Just say No” policy is in place for mid-pricer’s (except for Beams).
    Rookies are placeholders and there mostly the expensive one’s, so if cheaper rookies are named round 1, I can always downsize, my forward line would appreciate the extra dollars.
    I also wish they had kept the print team option for the regular season……

    2 Boyds, 1 Cup 2017.

    Def: Docherty, Shaw, Rance, McGrath, Scharenberg, Hampton, Sheehan, Long.

    Mids: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Tom Mitchell, Beams, Carlton Hyphen, Port Hyphen, Myers, Freeman, Graham.

    Rucks: Gawn, Goldstein, That Freo Guy.

    Forwards: Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCarthy, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Lebois, Johnstone, Eddy.

    $19,000 left in the kitty.

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    1. Good solid early selection
      Im going with Kennedy and Lynch as my starting Fwds with the current
      draw thinking I will be able to pick up the Dogs cheaper later
      You don’t rate Ryder? or the Ruck swing trade

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      1. Nothing against Ryder. 2 reasons why I don’t have him is that I’m trying to avoid guy’s who spent 12 months away from a footy club and I can’t afford him (well I could, but don’t want him as F2).
        I’ve been lucky the last 2 seasons that if I needed ruck cover, I was able to trade in a rookie that round.

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    2. If I were you, I’d downgrade Goldy to either P. Ryder or A. Sandliands, I feel he just won’t perform at the level we’re used to as age will probably catch up and the roos will be much worse. I’d look at using the extra cash to pick up some more firepower in your forward line.

      That’s just my two cents, I’m only in my second year and pretty inexperienced so if what I just said sounds like bullshit, it’s probably because it is and I just haven’t realised it yet ๐Ÿ™‚

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      1. Goldy is Goldy. He still pumped out enough quality scores last year to be a viable VC/C loophole. He will go down in price, but starting him saves the effort of having to trade him in later when money and trades are factors.
        As for downgrading him to upgrade my forwards, robbing Peter to pay Paul sin’t really my thing.

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        1. Goldstein’s scores drop considerably in a losing team, as well as when a backup ruckmen is playing (ie: Daw). Both of these are likely to happen more often this season, you’d suspect.

          However, even an average season by his standards means he’s likely to be a top 4 ruckman, so he’s still a relatively safe bet. Saving a trade by locking him in is probably worth more than the 80-90k he might lose.

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        2. I like the ruck set up imo, I’ve always spend up on rucks, it’s my set and forget policy,so I can pull my hair out with the forward line as usual

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    3. Ha! Like the name. Pretty sure you already know where your weakness is Pogue. Why don’t you be strict with your policy and get rid of paper mache Beams and get another decent forward.

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  2. A few revisions since I last posted, please tell us what you think, I won’t cry too much if you tell me that my team is awful ๐Ÿ˜‰

    DEF: S. Docherty, K. Simpson, M. Hibberd, J. Scrimshaw, J. Berry, A. Otten, (L. Ryan, T. Williamson)

    MID: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, J.J Kennedy, D. Hannebery, A. Treloar, N. Fyfe, D. Swallow, J. Bowes (S. Powell-Pepper, D. Myers, S. Bolton)

    RUCK: M. Gawn, A. Sandilands (D. Cameron)

    FWD: L. Dalhaus, I. Heeney, P. Ryder, B. Ainsworth, J. Pickett, W. Drew, W. Rioli, B. Eddy

    Foward line might be a little thin, but I feel like everyone’s is at this point.

    Again any and all advice is welcome, even it’s as simple as “I’d swap this premo for this premo.”

    Thanks again, hope your Australia Day was bloody awesome ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. Pure guns and rookies
      If all the rookies fire it will be the perfect start……….
      If you miss out on the 3 to 4 mid pricers that may star
      you may waste trades chasing the fix and miss out
      Pre season will provide hours of fun………
      Good Luck!

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    2. I like your premo choices Ben. From here you need to focus on somehow getting 1 more premo in. For example Myers is cheaper than Scrimshaw, Bowes, Berry and Ainsworth but will likely average more than them. Put him on field and concentrate on converting the others to a premo.

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      1. I don’t think Hibberd’s discount is enough to warrant selection.

        Out of action for a year; role unknown; hasn’t been a premium before; knee injury before Christmas. There’s too many cons and not enough pros.

        Even if he has a career best season, I’m not sure he’ll be top 6 def. For a similar price, I think Hartlett has more upside.

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  3. Catta’s Clan@SCT …… MK1 ๐Ÿ™‚

    Def… Docherty, Rance, T Adams, R Murphy, McGrath, Ryan
    ( emg Vickers-Willis & M Hibberd )
    Mid… Dangerfield, Hannebery, Treloar, Fyfe, Heppell, D Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Myers
    ( emg Berry, Miles, Graham )
    Ruc… Goldstein, Sandilands ( emg Strnadica )
    Fwd… Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Roughead, McCluggage, Bolton
    ( emg Eddy & J Simpkin )

    Appreciate all feed back

    Cheers Catta

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    1. Solid team! Only thing that sticks out to me is that ruck line-up of Goldy and Sandy, that’s a huge risk injury wise, especially without any ruck DPP players in the forward line. I’d either shuffle some players around and upgrade Goldy to Gawn, or swap Roughy or upgrade a rookie to Paddy Ryder for insurance.

      Just my two cents ๐Ÿ™‚

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      1. Hmm I’m not sure how the Goldy – Gawn trade makes for less injury worry.

        Goldstein has played 21+ games for the last 6/7 years.

        Gawn has only played more than 13 games once since he debuted. Granted he broke out last season, but it remains to be seen if he can back it up.

        As for Sandi, I’d think upwards of 70% of serious teams will have him at R2, so if he does go ping, there will be a lot of coaches in the same position. Witts, Giles and potentially Boyd all likely #1 Rucks for their respective sides to provide an out for an early injury.

        Good, solid side Catta. Should provide a decent platform to launch from.

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    2. As always, Catta’s Clan must be respected. Have played against you often enough to know that you’re very hard to beat. Looking strong!

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    3. Structure looks great Catta.

      Adams is a risk (injury prone) given how many decent options in Def there are this year.

      Not sure Murphy/Heppell will be Top 6/8 or make more than 100K, so their upside is limited.

      Not convinced by Heeney. He might breakout, but given his role and inconsistency, I think he’ll regularly be available under 500K. Last year, he had more scores under 60 than he had over 100.

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      1. My team is still influx of course but this is what i’ve come up with so far

        Def: Docherty, Shaw, Adams, Laird,
        M. Hibbard, Long, Stewart, Ryan

        Mid: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Treloar, Fyfe, Heppell
        Pepper-Powell, Myers, Berry, Pickett, Freeman, Graham

        Ruc: Gawn, Sanidlands
        Lynch

        Fwd: Dalhaus, Deledio, Heeney, Ryder
        Bowes, Parfitt, Smith, Eddy.

        Pretty bullish on Heppell I don’t think the year out will negatively effect the more professional players as much as some think but that is a just personal view, Need to see a bit from blokes like Deledio, Adams, not convinced Ryder is the way to go but its where I’m at at the moment, Heeney has a great breakout profile but there is that concern that being from Sydney he can have a great game and get an 80 even with mid time, but his contested marking, goal kicking, KtoH ratio & desire to be a clutch player all very appealing.

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  4. Def- Adams, Laird, JJ, Williams, Scharenberg, Berry (Rookie, rookie)

    Mid- Kennedy, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Bowes, Myers (Powell-pepper, Galluci, Jarmen)

    Rucks- Goldy, Grundy (Strnacia)

    Fwd- Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeny, Bennell, McCluggage, Pickett ( Rookie, rookie)

    33 k in bank

    Rookies are obviously subject to change. Would love any advice that you could throw my way!

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    1. Agree with TDA on Williams. Still see Shaw scoring better at GWS than Williams. Plus Bennell still has a long way to go before considering him for starting line-up. Interested to see how it evolves….

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      1. Yes, Bennell does have a long way and he is another player who is 50/50 but if he can get out on the field he will score way above his price.

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    2. Think you’re missing some elite players Benty. Who would you captain in this side, especially if Rocky/Fyfe miss a week ?

      Adams, JJ, Rocky, Beams, Swallow, Bennell and maybe Fyfe are all injury prone.

      Adams, JJ, Williams, Bont, Swallow, Grundy and Heeney are not proven.

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      1. Some great points there, my captain would be JPK with the loophole being either Goldy or Bont.

        I’d say its a bit of a stretch to call a few of the players you named injury prone if they have only had a major injury set them back.

        Williams I believe will be a top 6 DEF this year after a breakout last year.
        JJ I’m 50/50 on but has shown what he is capable of but was stunted by injury last year.
        Bont is a bit of a risk, but looks to be a proven gun, but I am worried about a tag.
        Swallow at his price- If he gets on the park its a no brainer for me.
        Grundy hasn’t been uber- premium but has shown scoring potential and I believe he will take it up another level this season.
        Heeney is a gun in the making, with Titch leaving he will be given more midfield time and tear it up. He also won’t cop a tag either because of there stacked midfield

        Thanks for the advice though mate!

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        1. Can definitely see the upside of JJ/Grundy, and agree on Swallow. All of those players have had multiple injuries though, and only Swallow has ever played a full season.

          After his finals series, I wouldn’t be surprised if Heeney starts getting tagged.

          Opposition coaches can let JPK/Hanners/Jack/McV get 30 touches and still have a win. However if Parker or Heeney snag 4-5 goals across half-forward, then Swans will win.

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          1. Very good point on the heeney tag, I just couldn’t see it happen unless he starts racking up 20+ a game and is kicking goals consistently. I’ll have to consider it though. Thanks for the advice.

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  5. Not sure on Zac Williams. I would consider filling in with a rookie like Jarrad Berry 139k mid – back or Luke Ryan 117k for now , and hopefully you have the money for the midfield weekly Captain beast Dangerman after offloading Beams.

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    1. I believe Zac williams will grow on lat years breakout season and be a top 6 backmen. Also on the week in, week out captain I think rocky will be able to fill that spot just fine if he can stay on the park injury free! Thanks for the advice though!

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      1. Not as experienced or knowledgable as many on here, but I always avoid any choice for my captain that requires an “if”.

        IF rocky stays injury free. IF Buddy kicks a bag of goals. IF Ablett is the same after injury. All of these could come true, but I would steer clear of them when choosing a captain.

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        1. If they play the week before and star…… obviously they can be used as a cap or vc the following week
          Hence the stipulation

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        2. Yes I see where you are coming from but with rocky, he has probably the best or second best scoring potential when he is at his best!

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  6. Def: K Simpson, L Montagna, R Laird, H Hartlett, M Scharenberg, C Hampton, ( N Newman, E Vicker-Wills)
    Mids: P Dangerfield, S Pendlebury, J Kennedy, J Selwood, N Fyfe, D Swallow, H McCluggage, D Myers, ( S Powell-Pepper, N Freeman, J Pickett)
    Rucks: T Goldstein, A Sandilands, (L Strandica)
    Fwds: N Riewoldt, L Dahlhaus, J Roughead, C McCarthy, R Knight, A Black, (W Rioli, B Eddy)

    Remaining salary: 3,300
    Greatly appreciate any advice.

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    1. I like the structure, I might not go with Simpson and Riewoldt, both because of age and the likelyhood that they won’t be able to replicate the heights of 2016. Simpson’s 2016 was above his usual standard, and Riewoldt is probably an injury risk – but it comes down to personal preference of course, and the forward line is especially thin this year.

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      1. My reasoning for Riewoldt is he averages 111 from 124 matches at Etihad Stadium where St Kilda play 12 of their first 16 games. Whilst he presents a large injury risk as he will miss an inevitable 1-3 games I think his scoring potential at Etihad will offset that. As for Simpson he epitomises durability and consistency and is a guarantee to play 20-22 games and avg around or in excess of 95.

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        1. I have Roo in my team for the same reason. I think he’ll be the #1 forward leading up to the byes. By the time his scoring drops off or he misses a couple of games in the back half of the year, everyone will have traded him in.

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        2. Good reasoning. Riewoldt should average pretty well at Etihad, so is potentially the top forward. 20 games out of him would be a great result.

          I went Docherty over Simpson because I was carrying too many old players, but i do think Doc is overpriced slightly.

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  7. $23, 500 remaining. As always, rookies are subject to change.

    DEF: Shaw, Adams, Hodge, Berry, Hibberd (NM), Vickers-Willis, (Newman, Ryan)

    MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Treloar, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Ainsworth, Foote, (Powell-Pepper, Myers, Barrett)

    RUC: Grundy, Sandilands, (Witts)

    FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, McCluggage, Rioli, (Smith, Eddy)

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    1. Like it mate, love the Witts pick. However with no ability to loophole him, he’s basically just sitting there hoping for a Sandilands injury. I think it may be better to take a 102k R3 and if Sandi goes down look to one of Witts/Giles/Boyd as a bandaid.

      Not sure on the Grundy pick myself, seems awkward to start with a bloke that will likely fall outside the top 2 in the scoring in a position where it’s so crucial to grab the top 2. Would have to make a 13 point increase to pass Goldys 108avg from last season and take 2nd. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

      I will say there are a lot of injury prone players in the side though, All of Adams, Hodge, Fyfe, Beams, Sandi and Bennell are probably more likely than unlikely to miss games throughout the season. It’s probably not incorrect to pick them, but be prepared to have a few of them warm the bench for a couple weeks here or there.

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      1. Thanks;

        Last year I started a Ruck line of Goldy, Martin, Wyatt and Sinclair in the FWDS.

        Set and Forget with backup – it failed miserably. Sinclair lasted a couple of weeks, before being replaced by Griffin when Sandy went down, who lasted one week before being upgraded to Dangerfield. Mason Cox was loopholed over Stef on numerous occasions.

        With Gawn so expensive, and question marks over Goldy, I’m gambling on Grundy’s progression pushing him up, and picking off one of Goldy/Gawn if Sandi falls apart sometime during the season. Witts is expensive, but if he’s the #1 at GC, I reckon it’s a sound investment for a 1-2 week injury that could befall my rucks.

        Yeah, most of the injury prone players – aside from Sandi, because of his value, and Adams, because of his scoring potential, are the ones that I picked last on my lines, and are most likely to be dropped out. But on the flipside, I’ll probably have to deal with players missing, so I may as well pick those that have good scoring potential.

        I think Grundy had a run of games to end the season averaging over 100 last year, so hopefully with natural progression he can push on to be a viable option, and hopefully one or both of Goldy and Gawn will drop off a little. Might not come off, but it feels easier to pick up someone like Goldy that has dropped in price, who already has the pedigree, rather than jump on someone like Grundy, who is on the up.

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      2. Just as a counterpoint to Russ’ view – if Goldstein misses a couple of games (very possible) and Grundy plays every game, then Grundy can score 10ppg less than Goldy and still have the same aggregate.
        Given Grundy is six years younger and 70K cheaper, I think Brodie is a very viable candidate for a starting ruck spot this year.

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    2. Although Hodge has been an absolute champ, I see him now as a huge risk. I guesss once again we need to wait for pre season form to give us confidence

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  8. DEF – Doc Shaw Montagna Mcgrath scharenberg berry ( ryan stewart)

    MID – Danger Pendl Rocky Bont Fyfe Swallow SPP myers (Pickett Hibbrd Boltn)

    RUCK – Gawn Sandilands (cameron)

    FOR – Dahl Macrae Ryder bennell mcluggage black (lebois eddy)

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    1. Montagna is the big POD that sticks out. At his best, he’d be a Top6 DEF but it’s no certainty after last season.

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      1. I think Joey’s durability has to be taken into account. He’s likely to finish as a Top 6 Def overall, even if his average drops 3-5 points.

        Saints are on the up, and he plays a SC friendly game.

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  9. How hard is it to pick a unique team. Looking at everyone’s sides there always seems to be 16-18 players I have in my side and most of the others are a slight variance ie: Docherty or Simpson, Pendlebury or Treloar etc.

    Also people going six premiums deep in the midfield are only leaving themselves two upgrades so you have to be pretty confident the six you’ve picked are going to be top 10-12 come the end of the season. There’s always going to be the value to be had in someone who cops an injury early in a game and his price drops over the next three weeks or the premium who just puts in a shocker and becomes value so it’s important to have spots to fit them in.

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    1. It’s for this reason i never select more than 5 in the midfield to begin with.

      Even then you have to be careful. A couple of times i selected 600k premos, who i was convinced would finish in the top 8, and they didn’t even finish in the top 10. It’s a season killer.

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    2. It’s an interesting point Champ. Those going six deep probably have a mix of Fyfe, Rocky, Beams and Swallow, so its likely one of those spots will open up during the year.

      Also, having Sloane/Priddis (avg. 108) in your team for 22 games is better than waiting for someone to breakout (Neale/Paker avg. 112) and only having them for 10 games.

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      1. It’s a good point that you make. After the pre-season series, we should have a better idea with the top rookies. As it stands right now, there seems to be enough solid rookies up forward and down back to justify going deep in the midfield. While there may be a surprise or two in the MIDs, I reckon the old stalwarts are set to dominate again. Can’t see too much going wrong with selections like Danger, Pendles, JPK, Selwood & Hanners. Then there’s the ‘returning’ elites from previous years in Fyfe & Beams. With plenty of uncertainty in the Forward line, going deeper in the MIDs might just be the way to go……..

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        1. Deepest i have EVER gone in the mids, and probably weakest ever in the fwds.

          You can but pick where you can see value, and wait for the standouts.

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  10. Posting again because my team has changed a bit based on some advice from you guys! So here’s the new team:

    DEF: A. Rance, R. Laird, J. Johannisen, C. Sheehan, T. Williamson, L. Ryan (T. Stewart, B. Long)

    MID: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, J.J Kennedy, D. Hannebery, A. Treloar, N. Fyfe, M. Bontempelli, D. Myers (S. Powell-Pepper, W. Drew, B. Jarman)

    RUCK: M. Gawn, A. Sandilands (D. Cameron)

    FWD: L. Dalhaus, I. Heeney, P. Ryder, S. Bolton, W. Rioli, A. Gallucci, (B. Eddy, T. Bayok)

    I basically downgraded my more expensive rookies to cheaper ones and shuffled some premos around in order to get 2 more premos ( Hibberd to Johannisen and Swallow to Bont).

    Again all rookies are subject to change.

    Thanks in advance for the advice ๐Ÿ™‚

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  11. Looking better Ben,
    Now, as per Champ’s advice above, for team balance I suggest you downgrade 2 of S. Pendlebury, J.J Kennedy, D. Hannebery, A. Treloar, N. Fyfe, M. Bontempelli and upgrade 1 rookie defender to a premo and 1 rookie forward to a premo. Some people may say to stack a particular line but I think balance is more important at this stage. After that there is not much more we can do until we see some actual footy!

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  12. Rate my midfield please…

    Danger-JPK-Gray-Fyfe-Heppell-Rookie x 6.

    Gray did good for me last year as a POD, so going with him again.

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  13. Mumma’s Bois v??

    DEF: Montagna, Rance, Laird, Scharenberg, Berry, Newman (EVW, Ridley)
    MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Treloar, Rockliff, Fyfe, Swallow, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Feeeman, Scheer)
    RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Bowes, Florent, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

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    1. Good solid side mate, 1 deep/1 shallow In the mid/fwd maybe. Fwd rooks look a bit shaky this year, though I see the appeal in the deep midfield.

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  14. First Attempt for the year. Like everyone rookies could be changed hoping the good rookies show themselves in pre season.

    DEF
    Docherty, T.Adams, Laird, Mcgrath, Scharenberg, Vickers-Willis (Hibberd, Ryan)

    MID
    Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Bont, Heppell, Beams, Petre-Seton, Berry (Powell-Pepper, Myers, Graham)

    Ruck
    Gawn, Ryder (Cameron)

    FWD
    Dalhaus, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Bowes, Picket (lamb, Eddy)

    Not certain if i should keep beams or downgrade him and upgrade a rookie defender.
    Not sold on Heeney but can’t see another good forward at this stage.
    Any advice appreciated. Cheers

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  15. Done a bit of tinkering with the side
    Backs: Montagna, Adams, Laird, Hartlett, McGrath, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)
    Mids: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Swallow, Petrevski-Seton, Bowes, Galluci (Powell-Pepper, Myers, Graham)
    Ruck: Gawn, Martin (Stradnica)
    Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Roughead, McCluggage, Pickett (Ainsworth, Brown)

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    1. I don’t think his talent is questionable, if he’s fit, in the team round 1 and looks to be over the hammy troubles., he will be very hard to ignore at 123k.

      Ideally he debuts mid season and we can use him as a downgrade, but I definitely think he’s worth a bench spot if he’s selected.

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      1. Quick, goal kicking midfielder who averaged 97SC in TAC. Will only need 6-7 games to make 180-200K.

        If he’s named for R1 its a pretty straight forward decision.

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          1. I’m led to beleive he played the last half dozen or so games in the magoos last year so providing he’s over the hammy dramas he’ll be worth the pick

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  16. Thoughts and constructive criticism would be great!

    Def: Docherty, Laird, JJ, Z. Williams, McGrath, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)

    Mid: Dangerfield, Hannebery, Fyfe, Bontempelli. Murphy, Swallow, Petrevski-Seton, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Graham, Barrett)

    Ruck: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)

    Fwd: Kennedy, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes (Pickett, Eddy)

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    1. On the right track here mate. 5 170k+ rookies is probably 3 too many though. I’d look to reinvest into some higher quality premiums. Murphy/Williams come straight to mind as unnecessary risk type players. I’d look to upgrade one or both with the rookie money.

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  17. I’ve done another re-shuffle, so any and all advice is welcome again. If posting 3 times in the same RMT thread isn’t allowed or looked down upon please let me know and I’ll stop ๐Ÿ™‚

    DEF: A. Rance, T. Adams, R. Laird, J. Johannisen, T. Williamson, L. Ryan (T. Stewart, C. Sheehan)

    MID: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, D. Hannebery, A. Treloar, N. Fyfe, J. Berry, S. Powell-Pepper, D. Meyers (W. Drew, S. Bolton, B. Jarman)

    RUCK: M. Gawn, A. Sandilands (D. Cameron)

    FWD: L. Dalhaus, J. Macrae, I. Heeney, P. Ryder, H. McCluggage, J. Pickett (W. Rioli, B. Eddy)

    Basically downgraded a 2 of my mid premos to add an extra premo to my def and forward line. Got an expensive rookie in McCluggage because I had no-where else to put the money.

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  18. 3 weeks til NAB cup lads, can’t come soon enough. Coming up on the post BBL, pre footy dead zone is never fun.

    Current iteration of TheRustyFishHooks

    Rance, Adams, Laird, Berry, Newman, Ryan, Stewart, Long

    Danger, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Fyfe, SPP, Myers, Barrett, Pickett, Freeman

    Goldy, Sandi, Strnadica

    Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Roughy, McCarthy, McKay, Rioli, Eddy

    I’m on the fence on Adams, never played more than 18 games in a season, and with the addition of Wells to the pies midfield, it’s getting pretty tight for minutes there. Been debating Hodge for 40k cheaper and just as likely to play 18 and arguably has a higher ceiling.

    Very dependant on whether or not we can get 5 sub 123k def rookies. If they don’t come up, Beams will come in at M6 to allow some padding funds, probably in place of The Bont.

    Not real keen on Beams to be fair, has a bit of a list Clogger stench around him, won’t be surprised if he spends long times forward as they try to manage his knee. I have him pencilled in for 18/107 (1926 points) just doesn’t quite cut it. For reference there were 30+ mids that scored 2k+ last season.

    If Bennell comes up and looks the goods, I’ll likely cut M6 to Swallow and take him at F5. The fwd rookies all seem to be the Small forward or KPP type this year. Don’t have a lot of confidence in their scoring potential. So limiting it to 1 on field could gain quite a few points over the first 8 or so weeks.

    Any feedback greatly appreciated lads.

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  19. G’day BigRuss,
    I think 5 rookies playing in the backline is a bit optomistic at this point. It is quite possible that none of them will line up round 1. I would work on a different structure as a back up plan. I’m not sold on Beams either, I agree he is a high risk with that knee.
    I think Goldy could be a risk this year too, hopefully not, but he was clearly troubled by his knee last year. We will have to wait and see.

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    1. I hear what you’re saying, but to be fair, it’s the same argument against GnR every year. Yet, every year the rookies play.

      I would advise against falling in to the trap of selecting mid pricers out of paranoia of rookies not playing.

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      I think its very possible that 5 of Mcgrath, Logue, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton, Berry, Collins, Hibberd, Newman, V-Willis, Long, Ryan & Stewart, plus whoever pops up during NAB cup, will be selected round 1. While not all sub 123k theres definitely a valid argument to go thin in defence. This is the deepest pool of def rookies since 2013 where the vast majority of successful teams started 3-0-5 in defence.

      In regards to Goldy i think hes probably the safest pick outside of Gawn, my biggest worry with him is his scoring in wins vs losses. In his “Breakout” 2015 he averaged 141 in wins and only 108 in losses. 2016 115.8 in wins vs 101.9 in losses. With the general consensus being north will slide this year and a relatively new look midfield around him, we may see lower scores across the board. I haven’t ruled out Gawn at R1 yet but i still feel relatively comfortable that Goldy will be top 2, its all dependent on who i choose to start with.

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  20. Having tinkered around with my team over the past few days I have come to this team.

    Def: Docherty, T.Adams, Z.Williams, Thurlow, Scharenberg, Ryan (Stewart, Long)

    Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Hannebery, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, Myers (Berry, Bolton, Graham)

    Ruck: Grundy, Martin (Strandica)

    Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, Elliot, Knight, C.Brown (J.Williams, W.Rioli)

    $55.5k left

    My POD’s

    Z. Williams- think will again improve on his breakout 2016 season. With H. Shaw attracting forward tags Williams will become the engine out of the back line.
    J. Thurlow- Coming back from a long term injury Thurlow will slot straight into Geelongs backline as Enrights replacement.
    M. Murphy- Got injured halfway through last year during an up and down season scoring wise. Should get back to his premo scoring output.
    S. Martin- Wasn’t the same last year after Sam May cleaned him up. Will go back to his 2015 form.
    J. Elliot- If his back holds up during the pre season he will start in my team should get back up to the 400k mark at least
    R. Knight- Another player returning from injury. Adelaide supporters are saying he is having a good pre season so he is in my team…. for now.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Solid side Callum.

      The risk on Adams/Williams/Grundy/Roughead/Beams/Macrae could be worthwhile, as they may become keepers.

      However its hard to see Thurlow/Murphy/Swallow/Elliot/Knight finishing Top 6/8 in their positions.

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      1. I’m sure Callum doesn’t see Thurlow, Swallow and Knight as being keepers, they are selections who have the potential to increase to $400k and make for an easy upgrade around the byes.
        Murphy has the potential to average 100+ and could remain all season as M8. He is definitely unlikely to lose money and could be a late season trade for your final midfield premium.
        Elliott has the potential to average high 80’s and be handy for quite a while although I think there is a bit of Collingwood bias in his selection.

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        1. Pretty much spot on Champ….besides being Collingwood bias (doggies supporter). Just think he could be an interesting POD who could make some money

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        1. If Thurlow (for example) averages 70 until the byes (being generous and using his best ever average), he’ll peak at 336K.

          So he’s made you 60K, instead of a 124K rookie, who has made you 212K.

          I don’t see how having 150K less to spend makes for an easy upgrade?

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  21. DEF: S. Docherty, H. Shaw, R. Laird, R. Murphy, A. McGrath, M. Scharenberg
    (J. Berry, M. Hibberd)

    MIDS: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, J. Kennedy, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, M. Murphy, S. Powell-Pepper, D. Myers (N. Freeman, J. Graham, B. Jarman)

    RUCKS: M. Gawn, A. Sandilands (L. Strnadica)

    FWDS: L. Dahlhaus, I. Heeney, J. Roughead, C. McCarthy, H. McCluggage, J. Pickett
    (T. Lamb, B. Eddy)

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  22. First draft of I’m sure will be many…

    DEF – Adams – Laird – JJ – Hibberd – McGrath – Scharenberg – Vickers-Willis – Ryan

    MID – Danger – JPK – Treloar – Bont – Fyfe – Beams – Powell-Pepper – Myers – Gore – Witherden – Bolton

    RUCK – Grundy – Sandi – Strnadica

    FWD – Macrae – Henney – Ryder – Roughie – McCarthy – Black – Lamb – Eddy

    Thoughts?

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    1. Thoughts are; average team. Witherden is injured, Gore is unlikely, McCarthy is an under achiever, Black is C-grade, Lamb is miles behind? Carbon copy of not very good. Nothing original. Could you please tell us why you have selected who you have selected? I would really appreciate a synopsis of each player you have chosen and why.

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      1. I donโ€™t think selections like Black and Lamb matter as they are just rookie placeholders. I’m sure Matt will switch them for better rookies one the pre-season games are played.

        The overall team structure is probably a little weak up forward with 3 midpricers. Mat if you upgrade Heeney or Roughie it might balance your forward line out.

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  23. Def: Adams, Laird, Johannisen, Mcgrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Otten)

    Mid: Danger, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Myers, Bowes (Gore, Hibberd, Freeman)

    Rucks: Gawn, Sandilands (strandica)

    Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Roughead, Mcclucage (Pickett, eddy)

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  24. Obligatory note that rookies are highly subject to change, especially since I grabbed the from other RMTs as placeholders until I have had some time to do some analysis. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Defenders:
    Rance
    Laird
    Williams
    Hampton (R)
    Scharemberg (R)
    Ryan (R)

    Defenders Bench:
    Long (R)
    Sheehan (R)

    Midfielders:
    Dangerfield
    Pendlebury
    JPK
    Hannebury
    Selwood
    Petrevski-Seton (R)
    Berry (R)
    Powell-Pepper (R)

    Midfielders Bench:
    Meyers (R)
    Miles (R)
    Graham (R)

    Rucks:
    Gawn
    Grundy

    Rucks Bench:
    Mr. Loophole (R)

    Forwards:
    Dahlhaus
    MacRae
    Kennedy
    McCluggage (R)
    Ainsworth (R)
    Simpkin (R)

    Forwards Bench:
    Eddy (R)
    Bolton (R)

    Low risk tolerance this season.
    Leaves $123,600.

    Looking at the rucks, I didn’t see *any* other guys I felt good about. And I will once again be using the backup ruck spot for my designated loophole guy. Again, have to look at the schedule to pick who. Schedule, argh, reminds me I have to get on that……

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    1. Great side FD.

      Interesting picks in Rance/Kennedy. Both are likely to yo-yo more than some others (eg. Joey/Lids), so you could get them cheaper at some point.

      Always nervous when the opposition side has Kennedy. He doesn’t have the easiest start to the year though; WCE are either playing good teams at home, or average teams away.

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      1. Good points! I forgot about Roughy coming back, and am thinking I will end up with him in place of Kennedy.

        Rance would be the most likely to go if I see a defender I want not in the team. Good point on his price moving around. Bringing in Roughy for Kennedy frees up funds for a better defender…….

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  25. Stats that could be beneficial in helping to select starting premiums from Adelaide:
    R Sloane:
    Adelaide Oval 2016 avg: 119.91 from 11 games (3 sub 100 and 6 scores of 137+)
    AO career avg: 118.2
    Time of day averages 2016:
    Afternoon: 99 from 6( 3 below 100 and 3 above 100)
    Twilight: 119 from 3 (2 139+)
    Night: 110.83 from 12 ( 5 below 100 with a low of 82 and 7 above 100 with 4 scores of 137+)
    Saturday: 101.08 from 13 (8 below 100 and 2 120+)
    Sunday 115.4 from 5 ( low of 77 and a high of 141 with 2 over 120)
    Avg against top 9 teams in 2016 110.78 and 107 avg against bottom 9 teams.
    Avg in 2016 wins 110.94 and avg 101.2 in losses
    8 of first 13 games in 2017 at Adelaide Oval

    R Laird:
    Adelaide Oval 2016 avg: 96.88 from 9 ( 7 below 100 with a low of 77 and 2 above 100- 127,129)
    AO career avg: 85.5
    Time of day averages in 2016:
    Afternoon: 108.4 from 5 (low of 91 and 2 127+)
    Twilight: 102.66 from 3 (low of 74 and a high of 129)
    Night: 88.44 from 9 ( 8 below 100 and a high of 112)
    Saturday: 95.56 from 9 ( 2 above 100 and 1 below 80)
    Sunday: 106.8 from 5( low of 74 and a high of 130 with 3 100+)
    Avg against top 9 in 2016: 89.5 from 8 ( high of 112 and 7/8 below 100)
    Avg against bottom 9 in 2016: 103.33 from 9 ( 1 below 80 and 4 above 100 with 3 120+)
    Avg in wins 2016: 100.43 from 14 ( low of 74 and a high of 130 and 5/14 above 100 and 3/14 below 90)
    Avg in losses 2016: 80 from 3 (low of 71 and a high of 90)
    8 of first 13 games in 2017 at Adelaide Oval
    8 of first 13 games are at night( Laird avg at night in 2016 is 88.44)

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  26. Stats that could be beneficial in helping to select starting premiums from Brisbane:
    Tom Rockliff:
    Gabba avg 2016: 108.88 from 8 ( low of 48 and a high of 159, 3 120+and 2 below 100)
    Gabba career avg: 110.9
    Etihad Stadium 2016 avg: 143.5 from ( 3 130+ with a high of 204)
    Time of day 2016 averages:
    Afternoon: 137.38 from 8 (8/8 100+, 5/8 130+, low of 100 and a high of 204)
    Twilight: 84 from 6 (low of 48 and a high of 130, 4/6 below 100)
    Night: 94.66 from 3( low of 81 and a high of 120)
    Saturday: 112.1 from 10 ( 6/10 100+, 4/10 120+, low of 48 and a high of 204)
    Sunday: 109.43 from 7 ( low of 41 and a high of 154, 5/7 100+)
    Avg against top 9 teams in 2016: 102.38 from 8 (3/8 below 100 and 3 120+)
    Avg against bottom 9 teams: 118.67 from 9 ( 3/9 below 100 and 3/9 above 150)
    Avg in wins 2016: 156.5 from 2 (low of 154 and a high of 159)
    Avg in losses in 2016: 104.93 from 15 ( 6/15 below 100 and 5/15 above 120)
    4 games in 2017 at Etihad Stadium (2016 avg of 143.5)
    8 of first 13 against bottom 9 from 2016 ( Rockliff avg 118.67 against bottom 9 and 156.5 in wins)

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    1. Solid stats Adam. With Rocky I reckon it’s all about fitness. If he stays fit there’s no way he pumps out a 48.

      Hopefully Fagan works for the Lions in 2017.

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  27. Version 13:
    **All rookies are subject to change**
    $13,700 remaining.

    DEF: Joey, Rance, Laird, Scharenberg, Otten, Ryan (Stewart, Long)

    MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Hanners, Jelwood, Fyfe, M. Murphy, SPP (Myers, Pickett, Freeman)

    RUC: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)

    FWD: Dahlhaus, Ryder, Roughead, Bowes, Black, Ahern (Leonardis, Eddy)

    I’m not sold on starting with Rance. I know he can be picked up for ~450k at some stage throughout the season, but there are no other defenders I’m happy with starting with. I’d love Docherty, but I’m not about to pay close to $600k for him. Simmo, Shaw and Boyd are all too old, Adams is made of glass, JJ will get tagged something fierce, everyone else I don’t really care for. Maybe Vince for his consistency?

    M4 is a 50/50 between Hannebery and Treloar.

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    1. I feel the same way about most the defenders struggling to start with the right ones as I know I’ll be able to pick one of them up a bit cheaper, I like the rance pick he could be a decent pod for you

      I don’t trust Murphy think you should get another forward instead of Murphy

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    2. 7 gun midfield, i’m doing the same…

      3 gun def and fwd, same

      Sandi and strainedpenis pretty much everyone will have

      like the structure mate, cheers

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  28. Version one
    Def:
    Dance,laird,Hartlett,McGrath,perryman,Newman
    ( berry,junker)
    Mid:
    Dangerfield,Pendlebury,Kennedy,p.cripps,,t.mitchell
    D.swallow,mcCluggage
    (Powell-pepper,Myers,witherden)
    Rucks:
    Grundy,Sandilands (dpp rookie)
    For:
    Dahlhaus,macrame,Ryder,Roughead,j.picket,gallucci
    (Drew,eddy)

    Happy with backline more or less
    Cripps bit of a spec at this stage,would love imput,
    Ruck look ok,I think you could debate rucks until your blue in the face, grundy may make way yet
    Forwards still confound me I could completely change yet,
    Was the same last year and I fallen miserably any thoughts

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  29. First go, have at it.

    DEFENCE:
    L. Montagna / A. Rance / J. Howe
    Z. Williams / J. Berry / T. Stewart

    M. Newman / L. Ryan

    MIDFIELD:
    P. Dangerfield / T. Rockliff / D. Martin / R. Gray
    N. Fyfe / S. Powell-Pepper / D. Myers / J. Graham

    M. Hibberd / N. Freeman / S. Bolton

    RUCKS:
    S. Martin / A. Sandilands

    L. Strnadica

    FORWARDS:
    L. Dahlhaus / J. Gunston / S. Motlop
    B. Acres / H. Bennell / R. Knight

    W. Rioli / B. Eddy

    $21,800 remaining.

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  30. DEF:
    Docherty; Simpson; Laird; Mcgrath; Berry; Stewart, Ryan; Long

    MID:
    Hannebery; Merrett; Treloar; Priddis; Bontempelli; Fyfe; Watson; Myers; Powell-Pepper; Poholke

    RUCK:
    Gawn; Grundy; Strnadica

    FWD:
    Dalhaus; Ryder; McCluggage; Bolton; Brown; Johnstone; Rioli; Eddy

    $70k still in bank

    Going strictly guns ‘n’ rooks with the exception of Ryder (r/f coverage who hopefully can finish the year in f6), Watson (looks hungry, running pb’s and priced 20 points shy of his potential. At worst an easy step to premo player) and 2 top end rooks in McGrath and McCluggage whom i both expect will play round 1, 18+ games and average 75. Obviously all other rooks except myers (who imo sits comfortably in essendons best 22) are subject to change.

    All right guys and girls, any comments/suggestions?

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      1. Agree the fwd line is weak but see this as the best area to generate cash with the aim to pick up some kpp premos as they inevitably dip in price and others as they emerge.

        Disagree with picking up priddis cheaper, he is very consistent in his scoring and provides a nice starting pod. Also a bit bullish on his prospects this year with the injection mitchell and development of other inside mids. Dangerfield on the other hand will struggle to maintain that starting price and will come down nicely to be my first upgrade (looking at watson into dangerfield by round 9).

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      1. Will definitely come down in price and am looking to trade Watson into him by the round 9 bye.
        Will be using Fyfe and Gawn as C/VC options until then.

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        1. Proddis always tends to have a really bad game and comes down in price happens pretty much every year

          Yes you’ll be leaking a bit of points if you have 4 fwd rookies on field

          Regarding Dangerfield the way I see it is yes he will come down in price but 1. By how much? Will he get below 600K? 2. All the points your missing from danger if his price does hold up

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          1. 2 start without Danger is just not worth the pain IMO, & there will be plenty of it… The sleepless nights, maybe even some fever, you’ll definitely get the sh*ts…

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    1. You should be able to get 13 genuine premiums and rookies however you can squeeze about 15 if you bank on a couple of Beams/Murphy/Roughead/Bennell.

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        1. I didn’t say they were good picks and I don’t have any, however they all have history of 100+ season averages in the past at very discounted rates for those who are willing to take the chance.

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          1. Either of those 4 mentioned are worth a punt on, stepping stones more likely but still worth the risk. To say way too much risk, I disagree. You have 2 take risks in this game it is just picking the right 1’s.

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  31. S. Docherty
    R. Laird
    J. Johanisen
    C. Marchbank
    G. Logue
    J. Berry

    L. Ryan
    T. Stewart

    P. Dangerfield
    S. Pendlebury
    J. Kennedy
    D. Hannebury
    N. Fyfe
    S. Petrevski-Seaton
    W. Brodie
    D. Myers

    J. Pickett
    N. Freeman
    S. Bolton

    M. Gawn
    B. Grundy

    M. Eagles

    L. Dalhaus
    J. Macrae
    I. Heeney
    H. McCluggage
    B. Ainsworth
    J. Bowes

    K. Lebois
    B. Eddy

    $11.500 left in the bank and rookies are expected to change. Thoughts?

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  32. Stats that could be beneficial in helping to select starting premiums from Carlton:
    S Docherty:
    Durability (career games with 80+avg): 41/44 (93.18)
    Consistency: 0-79: 9/41
    80+: 32/41
    100+: 19/41
    120+: 7/41
    MCG 2016 avg: 107.22 from 9 (low of 79 and a high of 138, 2/9 under 100, 2/9 120+)
    MCG career avg: 89.8
    ES 2016 avg: 114.71 from 7 (low of 76 and a high of 147, 2/7 under 100 and 4/7 120+)
    ES career avg: 97.9
    Time of day averages 2016:
    Afternoon: 111.36 from 14 ( low of 79 and a high of 147, 3/14 under 100, 5/14 120+)
    Twilight: 91 from 3 ( low of 76 and a high of 110, 1/3 over 100)
    Night: 112 from 5 ( low of 87 and a high of 135, 4/5 100+)
    Saturday: 105.82 from 11 ( low of 79 and a high of 135, 3/11 under 100, 2/11 120+)
    Sunday: 111 from 10 (low of 76 and a high of 147, 4/10 120+, 3/10 under 100)
    Avg against top 9 teams of 2016: 111.7 from 10 ( low of 76 and a high of 138, 1/10 under 100, 3/10 120+)
    Avg against bottom 9: 106 from 12 (low of 79 and a high of 147, 5/12 below 100, 3/12 120+)
    Avg in 2016 wins: 106.14 from 7 ( low of 79 and a high of 147, 3/7 below 100, 3/7 120+)
    Avg in 2016 losses: 109.93 from 15 ( low of 76 and a high of 141, 3/15 under 100, 12/15 100+, 3/15 120+)

    10 of first 13 against bottom 9 teams of 2016 ( avg 106)
    13 of first 16 at ES ( 2016 avg 114.71) and MCG ( 2016 avg 107.22)

    K Simpson:
    Durability (career games with 80+avg): 215/220 (97.93 missed 5 games in the last 10 seasons)
    Consistency: 0-79: 64/215
    80+: 151/215
    100+: 94/215
    120+: 37/215
    MCG 2016 avg: 111.44 from 9 ( low of 93 and a high of 128, 2/9 below 100, 4/9 120+)
    MCG career avg: 97.4 from 90
    ES 2016 avg: 103 from 7 ( low of 86 and a high of 125, 2/7 below 100, 1/7 120+)
    ES career avg: 94.9 from 90
    Time of day averages 2016:
    Afternoon: 107.29 from 14 ( low of 86 and a high of 125, 5/14 below 100, 5/14 120+)
    Twilight: 105 from 3 ( low of 86 and a high of 129)
    Night: 104 from 5 (low of 84 and a high of 128, 1/5 under 100, 1/5 120+)
    Saturday: 106.45 from 11 ( low of 84 and a high of 128, 3/11 under 100, 4/11 120+)
    Sunday: 106.2 from 10 ( low of 86 and a high of 129, 4/10 under 100, 3/10 120+)
    Avg against top 9 teams of 2016: 99.4 from 10 ( low of 86 and a high of 125, 5/10 below 100, 1/10 120+)
    Avg against bottom 9: 112.17 from 12 ( low of 84 and a high of 129, 2/12 below 100, 6/12 120+)
    Avg in 2016 wins: 110 from 7 ( low of 86 and a high of 129, 2/7 below 100, 3/7 120+)
    Avg in 2016 losses: 104.67 from 15 ( low of 84 and a high of 128, 5/15 below 100, 4/15 120+)

    10 of first 13 against bottom 9 teams of 2016 ( avg 112.17)
    13 of first 16 at ES (2016 avg 103) and MCG (2016 avg 111.44)

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  33. Draft #1

    DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Berry, Stewart)
    MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Sloane, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Brown)
    RUC: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
    FWD: N. Roo, Dahl, Roughhead, Ryder, McCluggage, Eddy (Pickett, W. Rioli)

    $39, 000 in the bank

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  34. DEFENDERS
    T. Adams, S. Burgoyne, B. Vince
    A. McGrath, M. Scharenberg, J. Berry (L. Ryan, T. Stewart)

    MIDFIELDERS
    P. Dangerfield, J. Kennedy, A. Treloar, T. Rockliff, N. Fyfe
    D. Heppell, D. Swallow, D. Myers (SPP, Pickett, Graham)

    RUCKS
    M. Gawn, S. Martin (Strndica)

    FORWARDS
    J. Kennedy, J. Daniher, W. Hoskin-Elliott
    C. McCarthy, H. McCluggage, B. Ainsworth
    ( J. Bowes, A. Black)

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    1. Vince is an interesting one. He went into 2016 injured/underdone, and had some poor games in the back half of the year once Melb started losing a few more games. So in theory, with a full pre-season, and Melbourne expected to play an attacking game and win a few more, he’s underpriced.

      However, in 10 seasons he’s only averaged 98 twice, despite playing mostly as a permanent midfielder. The top 6 def’s for 2017 all average 98+, so at 31, Vince would need to have a career best season SC-wise, to be a worthwhile pick.

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  35. Adams, Laird, T.McDonald, J.Lloyd, McGrath, Berry – Ryan, Stewart
    Dangerfield, Hannebery, J.Selwood, Treloar, Fyfe, Florent, SPP, Myers – Freeman, Atley, Graham
    Gawn, Sandilands – Strnadica
    Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Bennell, Ainsworth, Bowes – C.Brown, Rioli

    $0 left exactly.

    There are a few different players to the norm and I’m avoiding some popular picks because I don’t necessarily see them being top players in their positions this year.

    T.McDonald finished last year off really well and seemed back to his consistent best, had shoulder surgery over Christmas but hopefully that doesn’t affect his fitness.
    J.Lloyd is an interesting POD. From reports he should play an outside midfield role mainly so it could make him top 8 DEF this year albeit maybe not a 100+ Avg player yet.
    If Bennell plays round one I’ll back him in to be a top FWD, and i can handle a few games rested if it’s the case; if he doesn’t play round one I’ll make him McCluggage/Knight and upgrade Lloyd to Pendlebury/Bontempelli (via Florent to a <$225k DEF). Which is perhaps a better team anyway but if all goes well with the two mid-pricers then it saves me one trade, and reduces rookies on field.
    Gawn will likely be a top 2 Ruck even if he doesnt replicate his 2016, but I can't settle on another ruck who will be the other one so I'll start with Sandi.
    I really wish Roughy has a great season but I won't start with him. I like M.Murphy as a mid pricer.

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    1. TMac finished the season in great form, so could be a solid pick.

      I’m worried the addition of Lewis will mean Vince becomes a permanent Def. So you’d think Vince, Hibberd and Hunt would become Melbourne’s primary distributors from the backline.

      Also, he still hasn’t joined the main group after his pre-Christmas opp. I think he may end up being the 8-10th best defender; not doing badly enough to trade out, but you’re still losing points each week.

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  36. A lot of teams are obviously pretty similar at the moment, so just for fun here’s a bunch of mid-pricers, injury risks and discounted players all in the same 30 – I call it the Speculative Squad:

    Adams, Johannisen, Hurley, Thurlow, Marchbank, Keeffe, (Scharenberg, Sproule)
    Ablett, Rockliff, Heppell, DBeams, MMurphy, O’Meara, DSwallow, Myers, (Barrett, Freeman, Jarman)
    SMartin, Sandilands, (Witts)
    NRiewoldt, Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, Roughead, Elliott, (McCarthy, Thomas)

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  37. Stats that could be beneficial in helping to select starting premiums from Collingwood:
    S Pendlebury:
    Durability (career games with 95+ avg): 190/198 (95.96 missed 8 games in the last 9 seasons)
    Consistency: 0-79: 10/190
    80+: 180/190
    100+: 147/190
    120+: 88/190
    MCG 2016 avg: 120.21 from 14 ( low of 82 and a high of 161, 2/14 under 100, 7/14 120+)
    MCG career avg: 111.7 from 138
    ES 2016 avg: 124.67 from 3 ( low of 94 and a high of 165)
    ES career avg: 116.9 from 35
    Time of day averages 2016:
    Afternoon: 120.3 from 10 ( low of 100 and a high of 143, 5/10 120+)
    Twilight: 120 from 2 ( low of 100 and a high of 140)
    Night: 116.8 from 10 ( low of 82 and a high of 165, 4/10 under 100, 3/10 120+, 3/10 157+)
    Saturday: 130.5 from 10 ( low of 89 and a high of 165, 1/10 under 100, 6/10 120+, 6/10 140+)
    Sunday: 113 from 5 ( low of 100 and a high of 125, 1/5 120+)
    Avg against top 9 teams of 2016: 112.33 from 12 (low of 89 and a high of 140, 2/12 below 100, 3/12 120+)
    Avg against bottom 9: 126.3 from 10 (low of 82 and a high of 165, 2/10 below 100, 6/10 120+, 4/10 140+)
    Avg in 2016 wins: 132.33 from 9 (low of 87 and a high of 165, 1/9 under 100, 6/9 120+, 6/9 140+, 3/9 155+)
    Avg in 2016 losses: 109.23 from 13 (low of 82 and a high of 143, 3/13 below 100, 3/13 120+)

    11 of first 15 at MCG (2016 avg 120.21 and career avg 111.7)

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      1. Thanks Schwarzwalder, I have enjoyed conducting the research and ecstatic that fellow supercoachers are finding this beneficial. Other than the stats I have posted on Laird, Sloane, Rockliff, Simpson, Docherty and Pendlebury I have yet to post the same structure of stats for Dangerfield, Selwood, Ablett, Lynch, Shaw, Burgoyne, Gawn, Goldstein, Gray, N Riewoldt, Montagna, J Kennedy, Hannebery, Priddis, Bontempelli and Dahlhaus. I will try to post them all by the first pre season game in the Rate My Team sections and you are welcome to convert them all into one post/article for SuperCoach Talk to help with selecting premiums or captaincy choices throughout the year.

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  38. Docherty ,JJ, Rampe, McGrath Scharenberg Berry ( Hampton Ryan). Danger Pendle Gray Fyfe J.Viney Swallow SPS Myers ( Bowes Balic Freeman). Gawn Sandilands (Stranica). Dalhaus McRae Lynch Ryder Mcclugee Pickett (Galuci Eddy). Hey guys first draft for 2017 any feedback welcome cheers

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    1. Some interesting picks here Power, with Rampe, Lynch and Viney.

      Both Rampe and Viney had career best seasons, but still finished a fair way back in terms of SC average, so not sure they’ll be able to make the necessary leap to become premo’s.

      Lynch could be worth the risk. Would only need to up his average by 2 points to be Top 6 (based on current averages). I think I’ve read somewhere that becoming captain generally increases a players average.

      You haven’t picked too many of the popular discounted players, so JJ could also be worth the risk, given his ceiling.

      I haven’t looked at rookies much yet, but I think you’ve picked some of the more expensive ones. Maybe try to downgrade a few a get an extra premo in Def (or even Roughy, Beams, Bennell etc.).

      Love the Gray pick.

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  39. Def: Shaw, Adams, Murphy, Thurlow, McGrath, berry (M.Hibberd & L.Ryan)

    Mid: Danger, Kennedy, Fyfe, Gaff, Murphy, Swallow, Petrevski-Seton, Gallucci (Myers, J.Barret & Freeman)

    Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica)

    Fwd: Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, McCluggage, Bowes (Venables & Bolton)

    $138k left

    Far from the finished team but I really want to set and forget the ruck so I’m happy with that but wanted some thoughts from others about it, looking at it now Iโ€™m seeing how many players I have coming back from injury or a year off and who could I chuck as a premo in the midfield and who to take out? #notagoodstart

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    1. Midfield needs to be strengthened, you’ll need to have Pendles IMO. Free up some cash by downgrading Thurlow to a rookie and upgrade Gaff.

      I wouldn’t be touching Bennell given his injury history, and would downgrade him for a rookie to allow you to upgrade both Murphys.

      You have a some of the top priced rookies which is a good way to start. If lower priced rookies get named Rd1, you’ll be able to downgarde and free up some cash to spread around.

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  40. As an exercise, I have looked at the current most popular selections on each line and formed the Cookie Cutter Team.

    DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Adams, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
    MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Freeman, Graham)
    RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Roughead, McLuggage, Ainsworth, Bowes (Pickett, Eddy)
    Bank: 100k+

    Looking at similarities, I have:
    9/15 Rookies (<220k)
    2/5 Mid Pricers (500k)

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  41. hey all ๐Ÿ™‚

    my first try for 2017.

    whatver your thought, they would be apprecaited.

    DEFENDERS
    S. Docerty, H. Shaw, R. Laird
    A. McGrath, M. Scharenberg, J. Berry (L. Ryan, T. Stewart)

    MIDFIELDERS
    P. Dangerfield, J. Kennedy, D. Hannebery, D. Heppel, N. Fyfe
    D. Swallow, D. Myers, S. Bowes (SPP, S. Petrevski-Seton, S. Bolton)

    RUCKS
    M. Gawn, A. Sandilands (Strndica)

    FORWARDS
    L. Dahlhaus, L. Franklin, C. Wingard
    J. Roughead, H. McCluggage, J. Pickett
    (W. Rioli, B. Eddy)

    thanking you all ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. At his best Wingard is a great smokey option as a Top10 FWD……but I stress AT HIS BEST. Strong line up……

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  42. Solid enough team Jessica for a 1st try.

    Rookies are always subject to change at this time of year , but you do not want a 189k rookie sitting on your bench in the Midfield like your S.Petrevski – Seton or Bowes 171k depending on which one you would play , so i would downgrade one of them down to 102k -123k rookie.
    Also in the fwd line Wingard who averaged only 80 last year and plays mainly fwd i would look elsewhere.

    So with Sandilands at Ruck 2 who is an injury risk or if Gawn goes down for a week or two i think you should look at Ryder basically as a straight swap for Wingard to open the Ruck dpp swing with your R3 rookie.

    Tom Boyd at only 290k is another option.
    Good Luck for the year Jess!

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  43. Nathan’s Gunz v3

    Thoughts please 19k banked

    Adams, Laird, Murphy, Mcgrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan,Stewart)

    Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, Myers ( Powell-Pepper, Freeman, Graham)

    Goldstein, Grundy (Lynch)

    Dahlaus, Macrae, Heeney, Roughead, Black, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)

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