Trade Talk – Rd2

Written by Schwarzwalder on March 24 2019

Unless you’ve got Alex Rance or Tom Doedee in your team, I strongly recommend you HOLD your trades for at least another week.  For those Coaches that simply have to make a move……..this is your thread……..

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    1. If you aren’t missing one of the better def rookies, keep him and stick him on the bench. He should get the odd high score which will see his price rise.

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        1. Probably just Duursma and Clark are the stand outs at the moment. We might want to give D. Joyce from the saints another look before we jump on.

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  1. D Joyce could be a good downgrade option for S Collins.
    D Joyce:
    SC: 67
    Highest TOG for StK: 95%
    9 Clangers (6 frees against)

    What’s your thoughts on him All Saints.

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    1. Think Brown is likely to take Joyce’s spot (back from suspension next week).

      Wilkie is more of a utility (RUC relief / intercept and rebound) and thus has better JS in my opinion. The Suns played three talls and we have the Bombers next week. I’d wait for selections but I’d expect to see one of them OUT.

      Brown is a straight swap for Joyce. A shame. I thought they both played admirably.

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  2. Like when Facebook unearths an old photo which brings back fond memories…. ROCKY .
    Do we dare?
    T/U We had some good times and he is only $400k – hell yeah!
    T/D Don’t let him back in your life, spend the extra cash on someone nicer

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    1. Yesterday was Rockliff’s first match for Port Adelaide that he recorded more than 80%TOG. Wouldn’t bother bringing him unless you have to rectify a poor mid price option/have sufficient cash to do so.

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      1. With rocky he was getting 40 plus portions in jlt.and with wines out for 5 more weeks expect massive scores he will. Get 50 pos this weekend expect his score near 200

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      1. considered rocky, but decided the money was better spent on dom sheed. About the same price mark and it seems to have all clicked for him.

        Gaff into the side could impact, but probably not as big an impact on wines in will have on rocky. my 2c.

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  3. Unless I’m mistaken, only Nank 125, McEvoy 102 & Goldy 100 cracked the ton. Gawn/Grundy annoying but not a complete disaster. And if they are injured then you can trade down to anyone. Wait and see for now……

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    1. B Grundy:
      Had 7 Hitouts to Advantage from 34 Hitouts for a HTA of 20.59% against Geelong.
      Last season averaged 12.27 HTA and a HTA rate of 31.84%.

      Before Rd1 11 of his past 46 games (inc finals) in the past 2 seasons he has had less than 10 HTA.
      Only 7/46 with 7 or less HTA and from RD9 2017 he has recorded 7 or less HTA only 3 times from 38 matches.

      M Gawn:
      21 hitouts and 8 Hitouts to Advantage.
      14th time in his past 71 matches (inc finals) he has recorded less than 10 HTA.
      Recorded less than 10 HTA twice last season with only 6 matches below 15 HTA.

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    2. Afl.com just released an article saying how teams have figured out gawn/grundy. If they both don’t crack 100 next week going down to nank and Goldy if they back it up.

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      1. I was going to say something similar. I think west coast showed how to do impact them physically in the finals series last year and port took that to gawn again. Surely that will be the aim of every side from here, whether they can do it or not remains to be seen.

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    3. Westhoff 149, Stanley 108
      Admittedly Stanley was only up against Grundy and the Hoff was not playing Ruck but if he was it would have only been Gawn

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    1. If he is going to be on field then I would consider but if it’s just to sit on your bench then I would definitely wait a week

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  4. I think I’ve dodged most of the major carnage, so I’ll probably hold fire for a week. But I’ll still have a look over my team and see if there’s anyone I now have question marks on.

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  5. T/U – Grundy > Goldstein & Collins > Newman
    T/D – have a little faith

    I know Grundy and Gawn will come good, but that’s a lot of cash in the RUC that could be used to prop up other lines, and who’s to say the likes of Goldy won’t match them this year at -$150k the price?

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    1. Unlikely it’s worth a trade. If there’s a mid-pricer that pops up that looks seriously good that you don’t have (say Rockliff after 4-5 weeks) then yeah that might be worth it, but chances are it won’t be.

      If you didn’t start goldy then don’t go chasing him to make up for grundy/gawns shit week.

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      1. It’s a cardinal SC sin to go sideways, especially after a single round. But at the same time if you’ve missed Newman AND Grundy is underperforming you’re missing points AND losing hundreds of thousands a week.

        Not to mention this is a free corrective week as you’ll only get two trades next week. These two trades will likely be picked themselves by a pair of bubble boys, meaning you’ve missed the only opportunity to avoid losing thousands.

        Against what seems to be all better judgement, it has to be seriously considered at the very least.

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    2. Just putting it out there: I gave thumbs-up. Most are focussing in the Grundy > Goldstein side, and yes, in isolation, that’s probably going a week too early. But I think Collins > Newman is a great trade, so if Grundy > Goldstein facilitates that, I’m all for it.

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      1. This the one that gets me. It’s likely my only way to get Newman beyond sideways trading McGrath. I know is only been one round but given his role he’s as near a must have as you can get right now.

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  6. Sheed and Newman worth jumping on after next week if they back it up?
    Jump on the bolters…

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  7. Ok so tell me if I’m crazy, but I’m thinking of sacrificing Anthony Miles for the greater good even though he scored 95. Trading him to Drew gives me the cash to go Balta for Tim Kelly. This then gives me only one on field rookie in fwd line as opposed to 2 and also gives me Tim Kelly who I liked the look of getting midfield minutes. Yeah or Nah?

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        1. Yep, i’d personally do it. Cleaning out fwd rookies is first priority for me. Only reason i didn’t go 5 deep was that i had no idea who f4/5 should be.

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    1. Hi Pete. Sounds like a good move ATM, but I did hear that maybe Bolta is a possible candidate to take Rances spot. Just keep an eye on the possiblilty that Bolta may still have glimmer of hope yet before you bite the bullet!

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  8. If you happen to be fortunate enough to be reasonably close to the overall rankings should you consider using your trades early .
    TU- trade and chase those extra points
    TD- save your trades

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    1. Ohh, ohh, I know this one!

      Trade well. If you waste trades early you will fall later. If you hold back you will fall behind. Just trade well. Not more, not less.

      Brought to you by the voice of painful experience.

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      1. Now I just need to figure out how to trade well haha
        I don’t have any obvious problems after round 1, I think I have all the good rookies . My mid pricers in Williams and smith were solid without being great , not sold on either of them swapping to Newman after 1 game .
        My only premo let down was darling with 75, that’s from 10 disposals with 3 turnovers in a 44 point loss (probably says to me he deserves another week)

        Just afraid not making any trades will make me fall behind

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        1. Using trades needlessly will make you fall behind. If you do not need to trade then don’t!

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        2. It sounds like Darling MAY be out for a few weeks. Will know more later in the week, but keep an ear out!

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  9. I want to trade Balta for Parker.

    Balta was in my 22 and can’t see him making me any cash.

    My fwd bench is Burgess and Petruccelle who should make more $$ than Balta.

    Is this trade worth it or should I wait???

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    1. Also thinking Balta to Parker, wondering why do many TD’s??, unless its to wait a week which i likely will.

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      1. Definitely wait a week. If Balta scores 80 this week and Parker 30, those with itchy trigger fingers will have lost out $$ wise and also wasted trades. R1 scores only stay in the $$$ cycle for one week. You want your rookies scoring well enough to keep in R2 then smash it out in R3 as you get to ride the big increases for 3 weeks so patience peeps !! But to Sam Collins, you have only one more week to show me the money (or a glimse of it at least) !!

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        1. You make a valid point except that Balta is shit and he only did well in JLT cause Lynch wasn’t there.

          Thanks for all the TDs but Balta is out, Parker is in.

          Let’s discuss after Rd2, I’ll a happy Ninja then 🙂

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          1. Ninja, I think you would find that he could have taken a few grabs if the ball wasn’t slippery. With Rance going down, he could be moved to the back-line where his position could be a lock for the rest of the year. Id say wait and see what Richmond do with the teams.

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  10. Just wondering what Grundy’s kick/handball ratio was last year and what was it this round, not sure if his injured toe is 100%?
    Thanks

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  11. Seriously thinking of dumping Greene for a rookie (i have Petrucelle and Parker off field so perhaps Tiers) and upgrading Ridley to Newman. Impressed with the Carlton player and think he has filled in Doherty’s role. That gives me cash to upgrade Atkins to Walsh (started with Cousins) and not have a rookie playing mids under 200k.
    Thoughts? Wasted trades or risk it for the biscuit?

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    1. Supposed to be Miers as the rookie Schultz from Freo also an option. Doubt Miers will stay with S Selwood and Bews back soon.

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    2. Crazy. Wait a week.

      Both Greene and Ridley look like good picks. Walsh is not essential unless you started with him. He will end up costing you two trades for a $150K increase if you get him now

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  12. Only one trade thinking about,

    Libber>Cousins

    Just reversing what i originally had after JLT.

    Yeah ha ha or Nah Sweat on it.
    ……note that will mean Libber is Emergency.

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  13. Burning one on Merret.
    Is it worth going down to a Rocky or Sheed?
    Or just straight swap to someone with a similar price?

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      1. I’m holding. The whole team was awful. See if they bounce back next week. Lol he might even get an 80.
        But remember Billings hibberd last year, if he spuds again I’m going coniglio or Sloane. Pending ruck decision.

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        1. Z Merrett:
          Last 3 VS StK: 123.33 from 3 (low of 120 and a high of 129, 3/3 120+)

          Also only had 16 disposals which was the 5th time in his past 85 matches he has had 16 or less disposals with 3/5 occurring in the 1st 8 rounds of 2018 coinciding with his injury in RD1 last year.

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    1. Merrett
      Last 3 games ave (inc JLT) 52.3
      Last 3 games ave (not inc JLT) 87.3
      1st 3 games ave 2018 = 55
      Current Breakeven 163

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      1. What are the stats above supposed to indicate.

        A sample size of 3 is insignificant and you’re utilising figures from his concussion affected game in RD1 last year as well as his JLT which was affected by low TOG due to being eased back in after an injury interrupted preseason just to please your narrative.

        Including RD12019 and excluding RD1 2018 Merrett has averaged 107.75 from his last 65 matches. We were all aware of the risks attached due to his preseason but he’s a season long keeper and there is no point overreacting to a poor opening score as he’s got 22 more rounds to compensate.

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        1. A sample size of 3 is insignificant yet your sample size of games against StKilda was how many? I’d say a sample of 3 games over 3 years is probably less significant/relevant than a sample of his last 3 actual AFL games , rnds 22, 23 from 2018 and round 1 from 2019 ave 87.3. Which you chose to ignore to suit your narrative.

          The simple fact is that he has gone backwards in SC points every year since he peaked in 2016, dredging up selective data from multiple years doesn’t change that fact.
          Get it over mate he’s a SC spud.

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          1. What do you mean selective data? The only match I removed from his past 66 matches (3 seasons) was the injury affected game where he only played 1 quarter whereas you’ve selected his past 3 matches (AFL or JLT or first 3 in 2018) and the outlier in RD1 has distorted the figure in conjunction with an injury affected game in 2018 which distorted that stat as well as TOG being managed which again distorts the one regarding JLT.

            The stat regarding his performance against StK is only an indicator of his form against his upcoming opponent as well as a reminder regarding premiums that inconsistent scoring occurs and that they shouldn’t be traded after 1 poor game.

            I enjoyed your input earlier in the preseason but over the past week/fortnight you’ve tarnished your reputation and credibility for no apparent reason which is a shame. The aim of the site is to inform and help coaches with selections whether it be in regards to articles about rookies, premiums and structures posted by contributors and coaches posting their queries/problems whilst others attempt to solve or help by providing meaningful and well researched analysis thus providing constructive feedback that is beneficial for decision making.

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          2. David,

            Although in some aspects your theory may appear OK,
            However they do not account for TOG!!!!

            Try eg, score 60, TOG 50% or Score 70, TOG 100%
            Who would you be penciling in????

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    1. Jeffrey, Rocky had a monster score in JLT and you still didnt pick him, why?
      Its one game. What have changed? Sheed on the other hand is a better looking option.

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    1. Exactly what I’m thinking. Waiting till next week and hoping i don’t need 3 trades. Want Newman (had him until the 11th hour) but no idea who to drop for him if anyone so wait and see on that too.

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  14. No trades for me this week Likley to go Collins to Wilkie after next weeks game if Collins spuds it up again. Have balta too but will make for a decent downgrade target before i trade him.

    Hoping Oliver, Gawn & Grundy lift next week

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      1. Mint Will see how Collins goes again this week on the bench however with Rory Thompson’s acl he’s the lock down defender now i’m guessing he’ll go under 50 again

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  15. Thinking of upgrading Scrimshaw via tranferring DMoore to Defense for Worpel in Forward line , at the moment have all the good rookies for cash generation
    T/U Yes more points this week
    T/D No wait till next week see what
    carnage happens

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  16. Feel like this thread should just read:

    DO NOT TRADE UNLESS YOU SUFFERED A LONG TERM INJURY

    And then lock the thing so nobody can respond.

    Seriously folks – take this advice – tis a long season, and every player will have both ups and downs. If you rated someone in the preseason, DO NOT burn a trade after a single round where they disappointed you, for someone who you didn’t rate as highly who happened to have a good game.

    Post Round 1 – no trades unless for injury
    Post Round 2 – identify key rookies you missed, trade shit rookies you picked for them
    Post Rounds 3-5 – no trades unless for injury or quality rookies who’ve only played 2 games

    Be patient. The Trade button is like the Bet button on the pokie machine – it feels good to hit, but if you get carried away you’ll run out of money real soon.

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    1. Yes, true but the need to rage trade is huge.
      I see this thread as more of a reality check, a place to blow off steam.
      It’s good to say your trade thoughts out loud and get shot down, helps get it out of your system (smiley face)

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    1. FD will be aghast, sideways trade after 1 round !!!!

      All Saints reckons atrade is valued at $130k.

      Think the answer is clear

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  17. Dont like the look of my f6 who is currently balta, parker or petruculli.
    Dont think any of them will be consisent scorers. Thinking up grade balta to moore leave other two on bench for cash gen?
    Thoughts?

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    1. You aren’t meant to like your F6 until the bye rounds. You just deal with it.

      Premos to your best 22 take time. It’s a design feature of the damn game

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  18. Hi Guys,

    Just some question/s in regards to the trades for this week (possibly / may be) and next week…..

    OK I agree the general rule of thumb is “we shouldn’t be doing any corrective trades after just 1 round / week” – WHY NOT? Especially if one is going for overall rankings? Then why is it bad / stupid thing if one is trying to be aggressive by using 4 “corrective” trades in the 1st 2 rounds before the prices start to fluctuate is bad strategy? Of course the corrective trade/s made has to be based on some logic / research…
    Well I was thinking I could get some answers to these questions….also I have got some additional questions in regards to this situation….

    What if more than 2 players who you don’t have / you were considering to bringing in after 1st round scores well again in RD2 and didn’t do any trades after RD1 considering it was a mistake to pull the pin based on a small sample size (1 round) / didn’t want to go against the general rule of thumb?

    OR

    The premium players who we all paid so much spuds-up / doesn’t score what we were expecting from them again in RD 2 – i.e. what if Grundy & Gawn scores another below par score (i.e. 80 to 90) or Oliver scores another 80?

    OR

    The premium player/s who scored horribly in RD1 (Grundy, Gawn Oliver etc.) scores well in RD2 and you DO NOT have sufficient funds to bring in a under-priced player/s who could potentially breakout this year or may wind back the clock and become a super-premium player and has scored well in 1st 2 rounds of this season i.e. players like Newman, Sheed, Rockliff etc.
    What do we do? How do we manage this situation? Is there a smart way of doing things here? Or are these so called “corrective trades” only applicable to rookie/s selected?

    For me personally I was thinking (just thinking / considering – nothing is locked in yet, so don’t laugh at me please) of trading OUT Grundy or Gawn, based on my logic / theory, however I could be completely wrong here – based on what I saw in RD 1 not many RUCKS has scored well this round (highest score was 127 by Nank (who I think kicked 2 goals, excluded Hoff because he played predominantly as a FWD) – rucks who have scored well in round 1 (i.e. scored 100+) have kicked 1 or 2 goals or taken some marks (intercept marks / contested marks etc.), which means just HTA or HO is not generating enough points – is this because of reduced number of stoppages or is it because of any other reasons? I am not even sure if the stoppages has been reduced compared to last year? But it looked like that to me anyways….

    I would appreciate your thoughts / comments on the above…..

    Cheers,
    Raj

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    1. I understand what you’re saying and couldn’t agree more in principle. Each to their own for sure. My attitude is a little simpler though…..

      1. It’s round 1
      2. It’s a long season and we don’t have unlimited trades at our disposal
      3. It’s round 1

      Call my naive, but I’m putting some poor scores by top picks down to ‘blowing out some cobwebs’. Teams and players are still getting used to new structures in their sides, new players in their sides etc. for example, Oliver had a shocker on the weekend, yes. But a player who averages 100+ is unlikely to drop scores of 70 odd regularly. Again, call me simple. I’ve got nothing against ‘corrective trades’ for the sake of cash generation (binging in a stronger rookie prospect etc) but I’d be thinking very carefully about changing the core players in my team. We’ve all made the rage trades before and we’ve ALL either traded some of those players back in or worse, wanted to but could t afford it or didn’t have enough trades.

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    2. OK. Here’s how I see it.

      You identify that Grundy/Gawn could be downgraded to Nank/Goldstein, and you MAY not lose out on many points if the top 5 ruckmen are all around the 100-105 avg mark.

      This frees up ~$300k, allowing you to upgrade a poor performing rookie to Rockliff or Newman or Sheed.

      You’ve used 10% of your trades to upgrade one position. But on historical performance, there is a good chance that Rockliff either gets injured, or gets played forward more when Wines returns, Newman ends up being an inconsistent scorer with as many 60-70 scores as 100+ scores, and Sheed’s apparent breakout is a false dawn, and when Gaff returns Sheed regresses to a 90 pt avg. There’s also a good chance that Gawn doesn’t get beat up every week, or Melbourne learn how to protect him better. And Grundy works into some form and starts impacting the game outside the ruck contest like he did last year.

      Then you’re three trades down, your ruckmen are costing you 10+ points a game later in the season, Rocky needs to be traded out again (making it four trades down).

      2017 – Rockliff goes 137, 118, 104, 176, 104, 53, 148, 147.

      He gets a shoulder knock in Round 8. Misses three weeks (including the bye). Comes back after the bye and averages 78, with only one score over 100.

      Now the assumption is “I can trade him out and will have made money”. True. But you used three trades to get him in at the start of the year. And maybe he’ll come good? Maybe he’s still a bit sore but he’ll get back to his best. I’ve got other trades that need to be done, Rocky is the least of my problems. Bang – three weeks later he’s dropped $120k and you’re in strife.

      I suppose what I’m getting at is – yes, there is a chance it works well for you. Three trades for a midfield upgrade to an uber-premo is a fair result. But you need to consider the risk of it backfiring. Because it has the potential to be 4+ trades and getting stuck with sub-par players as the season progresses.

      There’s a few good reasons to wait one more week. Round one, plenty of players are rusty, especially those in top sides who had shorter preseasons. Round one, the round which has the least impact on player prices. It affects their price change after round 3, and that’s it. Their round two score affects their price changes in rounds three and four. Their scores from round three onwards are affecting three price rises.

      Unless you’ve got a master plan which requires four trades over the next two weeks to “fix” your side, hold for this week and gather more data. Gawn towels up a less physical Geelong side, Rocky gets blanketed by Curnow, Sheed struggles to impact against a rampant GWS, Westhoff intercepts half of Newman’s rebound 50s. All very real possibilities, and now you’ve got two conflicting results that tell very different stories about what a player’s season might look like.

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    3. Raj,

      I was thinking a similar analassist.

      My reason was to fine tune any hiccups that were created by unsure decisions (toss of coin choice).

      ….and of course i had wrong ones.

      So my plan was to re adjust for THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS ONLY!!!!! then i have no one to blame (except Murphy when they get injured) for the team selection.

      My phobia of which two trades to make first is whats playing with me at the moment. (Worpal, Salem, Cousins and Rocky/ Newman.

      In a summary it’s all about luck.

      Don’t let the Shoodas And the Whifs get to you too much.

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    4. Because 1 game is a really poor dataset. One game could be a blinder like Balta did in JLT or just a really easy opponent.

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  19. Plenty of people are probably just blowing off steam as has been mentioned on this thread, but plenty will still pull the trigger no doubt.

    There are some unbelievable entries on here that is for sure. Unfortunately we cannot have everyone that we would like (hello Fyfe, Coniglio, M Crouch & Lloyd to name a few in my side who went big on the w/e). But it is only week 1 and there is a long way to go. If you chose someone as a keeper, then keep them. Zac Merrett as an example mentioned here is a gun and he will come good at some point. I have never seen a player cost you money if you don’t trade them. Mid pricers that don’t work out I understand but guns are just that so trust your pick and give them a chance. Mid pricers need way more than a 1 week sample size IMO and guns (barring injury) need the rest of the season !!!

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    1. Key takeaway from this post – it’s the start of the season and you can’t have ALL the good players. There will always be someone who goes big and has you thinking “Man, I was so close to starting him, I should have trusted my gut”.

      Just keep in mind – you’ve got players that other coaches are thinking the same thing about. And maybe next week it’s the player you chose going big and the one you passed on puttering along to 73pts.

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  20. Alright….. ordinary start but tempted to hold for now…..2055 with higher scoring rookies on bench is ok

    Tempted with:
    T/U – Z.Williams out and Newman in
    T/D – Hold off a week

    Week 2 can only be better surely lol

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  21. I haven’t read anything about Taylor from GWS. Do we class him as an expensive rookie? Has he got the game to be a potential keeper?

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    1. Going to be a good player, but too expensive to be viable for SC. He played very well against a woeful Bombers last weekend. Definitely will not be a keeper though.

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  22. Thinking of trading Oliver for Sheed and Scrimshaw for Newman
    Think this is the week to do it because I want a trade for Gawn up my sleeve next week if he scores under 100 again
    Thoughts?

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    1. You won’t have a trade up your sleeve….you’ll be two trades down. Gawn may well score under 100 again, but he’ll finish top 5 come seasons end.

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    2. Oliver will also end up a premo mid this year, and you will end up trading up to get him back come seasons end, probably using 2 trades to do so.

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    3. Lol
      How can not even 1 person think this has some merit?!
      Is everyone a sheep in this place or something
      I get about burning trades but I think I’ve overplayed for Oliver and maybe he isn’t 100%
      I might not get Newman in but surely Sheed has to be at least an option just for the cash made?

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      1. If you reckon we’re all sheep – just do the opposite of what the thumbs tell you and see how far you go 😛 Maybe it’ll work.

        On paper, you’re using two trades to bring in two player who may still need to be traded out later on.

        Sheed’s previous best season average is 83 points. If you honestly think he’s going to better that by 30 points all of a sudden to become a top 8 mid, go for your life. Newman’s previous best, 83 points. Will he better that by 15 to become a top 6 defender?

        You’ve currently got a player who is very likely to be in the top 10 mids by season’s end. You’re talking about using two trades to swap that solid selection and a rookie for two less solid selections off the back of their round one performances.

        You can instead use the two trades later in the season to swap Scrimshaw and another rookie for a fallen premium, with less risk of picking up a mid price tease.

        There’s a reason people don’t just fill their team with 20+ midpricers. Those player will have good scores along the way, but over the course of 23 weeks the elite players win out.

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      2. Robocop, trades are gold in this competition. You only have 30 and that is. Generally, the best combo is guns and rookies.
        The guns are chosen after great research (few months for some of us) , are your stayers and only traded out if injured.
        The rookies and Mid pricers allow you to buy more guns. ( There are other combos, but same outcomes: end up with a full premium team allowing you maximum scoring as soon as possible).
        -Scrimshaw for Newman is good if you believe Newman will be a gun comes season end and Scrimshaw cannot make you more than 200k or get you a straight gun. As long as Newman ends up top 6 Defender , you are ok bcoz you won’t waste any more trade upgrading him too. D6 suffice. I believe he might do it.
        -Oliver however is a Gun. All you need him to be is a best 22 scorer. Why waste a trade on someone who will most surely end up in the top 10 Mid?

        Most players have theirs highs and lows. Check their history, it would provide you with more data than just one round. (True there are exceptions: Grundy went from under 100 to 130+ and Macrae went from 107 to 120+ twice. Generally there are logical explanation like: position change, injury in team, new arrival, team change etc… ). But there are breakouts every year . No one can guarantee who it is going to be, and we all make crowd educated guess but if you can smell it, and start with them or get them early, you got the jackpot.
        -You want Sheed, get the money another way. Not side trading a Gun and certainly not Oliver. There is a reason you started with him. You took him even after his double surgery. That means you trust him. Yes there is a crowd wisdom rather than being following sheeps. Then you again none of us have won it and if you know of a revolutionary way to do it , we are all ears.

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      3. Robocop…you asked for people’s opinions and feedback. A majority of similar opinions and feedback DOES NOT equate to people being sheep. It DOES equate to a majority of people having the same opinion. Sheep = blindly following. Semantics….(I love that word)….the fact that you’re asking for public opinion can be interpreted that you would follow that opinion if the majority agreed with yourself or your way of thinking….does that not make you a sheep??

        On a side note:
        I’m considering changing my name to Plato.

        TU: Yes
        TD: I’m getting ahead of myself

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  23. Hi helpful Community,
    I was lucky to be away holidaying up north in WA last week and over the footy weekend. II scored ok 2149 with alot of Preseason study, but I only have a question-
    With the new kick out rules, allowing to run out of square, gain distance and score SC points. I missed the value players/picks that scored the extras.
    Who did well? Who should I be keeping an eye on?
    Thanks in advance.

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  24. I made 1 trade.
    – Swapped Heeney to the middle via Drew
    – Traded Heeney moved Duursma to the middle
    – Brought in Jake Lloyd

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  25. Giving Grundy one more week…. Grundy > Westhoff or nank, then that frees up abit of cash then thinking of trading sam Walsh for either SHEED or rocky

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  26. Unfortunately 3 players went down with ACL’s this week, trades are GOLD. You only get 30 of them and the only thing no one can predict is injuries.

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    1. Both top rucks never back up in supercoach.

      But also… erm… round 1.

      If you can’t trust your 700k players, maybe you really shouldn’t stress yourself out so much by playing supercoach in the first place.

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      1. Lucky I started with westhoff Goldie. gwan. Looks like shit Grundy had foot toe surgery and will take weeks to be good again

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  27. After round 2 if Collins $#@!s the bed again what are peoples thoughts on Ballard or H.Taylor? Pods…

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    1. FS

      If Collins needs to be traded,I would prefer to downgrade him to a cheaper option. Whoever you don’t have from…

      Clark
      Scrimshaw
      Duursma
      Hore
      Wilkie

      This frees up a little cash to help with future upgrades, Also all these guys seem capable of making similar cash to a Ballard / Taylor type.

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    2. First game mate give him time. Last year I got rid of tim. Kelly after 5 rd and look what happen was kicking myself

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  28. May i ask why people have traded bolts. When Hardwick has said bolta will replace rance those people will miss out on a cash cow also gibbions Heeney brad crouch and burgess. You guys are loco. And won’t do well in supercoach if u trade any of those players. It’s your fault by not starting crouch rocky sheed togather. Old saying don’t trade out a premium for a premium only on rd 1 fools all 2000 of u. And 4400 for bolta.

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  29. With Balta being dropped, and the likelihood i’ll have to bring Bailey Scott in next week, is it worth pulling the trigger on him now, allowing me to also bring in either Sheed/Rocky in next week should they back up their Round 1 performances?

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  30. $800 short of a straight trade of Collins to Newman or Sheed. ( also Worpel.)
    So I’ll hold and see if any of these three still look like early season bolters next week.
    Then maybe if Collins and burgess flop again I will have a better idea if it’s worth two trades to bring in a mid price mover and Parker if he backs it up.

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  31. I have a couple of dilemmas this week and the communities wisdom is sought.
    1. In DEF I have Joyce and Hore who have both been dropped. Trade one for Wilkie or hold both?
    T/U – trade
    T/D – hold

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  32. Dilemma #2 is I really want to get Constable into my mids. Who goes out Walsh or Gibbons? (other rookies are Scott, Butters and Atkins)
    T/U – Walsh
    T/D – Gibbons
    Comment – another option

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts

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  33. Hi SCT Community Coaches,

    Welcome back to the carnage that is SuperCoach. Have a quizzie and would appreciate some insight from the group.

    I never loved the idea of bringing in Toby Greene as my F4, but did it anyway. And now he has “soreness”… dude is made of glass. Not sure if he’s an LTI (enlighten?).

    So, now he and Balta sit on the forward pine in my side not playing. I can deal with Balta until there is a clear option on the bubble. But, I have $426k to move Greene if I choose. Question is SHOULD I (Y/N), TO WHOM (Worpel, Fisher, Dahlhaus, other), and WHEN (R2, R3, wait)?

    Comments very much appreciated.

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  34. Hi all was working last night and was unable to check out the teams before the start of last nights game. Unfortunately the Supercoach Gods have struck early and I have Ridely, Joyce and Hore all out. If I’d known earlier I would have traded Ridley for Moore only at this stage. I’m playing leagues only of which 1 league starts this round . So my question is do I cop a donut now or trade in Wilke this round and then trade in Moore( who I need) for one of the others next week ? If I don’t trade in Moore I’ll be playing 3 rookies on field each week . Must admit I’m thinking of copping a donut and waiting till next week. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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