Father Dougal’s Team Very First Thoughts

Hi Everybody!

When the team picker came out, I went in and did a quick first draft of players I liked and fiddled a bit until there was maybe enough cash left over to cover cows.  No checking byes or anything past what I already knew, and in a few cases a quick look at that player’s history.  I wanted to get my first thoughts down before I did any form of research and/or was influenced by other people’s thoughts.  Of course that means I may have added someone who won’t be fit or has issues I missed, but, easy enough to take someone out! I am sure I have missed an obvious pick or three, but easy to add. 

Is this useful? No idea! Maybe to spark discussions, but also maybe at the end of they year to go back and see how many of these thoughts turned out to be correct. If I end up being influenced out of them and they turned out to have been good, well, I learned something. Or, maybe the other way. 

Defenders

Harry Sheezel:  I feel like he is obvious. Great player, young and likely to get better, and while he might not do as well as last year I feel like he will at least be close.  Pretty much a solid premium in defense. 

James Sicily:  Known quantity, under 30, barely, and at a lower price for what he might do.  I’m writing this and not feeling that sure I’ll want him but at the same time he has potential to overperform and I would be surprised if he fell off  a cliff.  Still, I did pick him when looking over the other options so writing down what I really did.  Already with the second thoughts….

Callum Mills: Far underpriced for what he could do. Is he healthy? No idea! If so he seems pretty obvious but I’d not be surprised if there is something I don’t know about him. Just went on price v upside. 

Midfield

The Bont:  He will be in my team assuming nothing wacky happens between now and first bounce. Or however that works with the round zero thing. Blech.  I mean, reliable, not old, could drop off and still be top ten and could even go up a bit. 

Zac Butters:  Possibly more reliable a pick than The Bont, since he is a lot younger, and has more upside. 

Nick Diacos:  Again, seems safe and has upside and way young. 

Connor Rozee:  Good, young, undervalued after a rough season. 

Clayton Oliver:  Everyone knows he is priced way under what he has done in the past. Nobody knows if his mind and body are up for returning to what he has done in the past. I find it hard to think he’ll do any worse than last season. Say we start with him and he goes at 85 for a while, well, sell after a big score or his bye?  Paying about 85 to get about 85 is far from the worst thing that can happen. The main loss would be who you did not get instead, and who knows what that cost would be. I would like him to be worth a punt. We will get more information before we have to decide and hopefully that will clarify his situation. The upside is pretty big compared to the downside, as far as we know now. 

Rucks

Tristan Xerri:  While I am aware big jumps are often followed by falls, I feel like 119 is sustainable can could even be improved on.  

Tim English:  I suspect he is underpriced by 10ish.  Just entering his prime as a ruck. Seems safeish? There could well be a pick with a better upside, but i am not sure who and English has done it before. I suspect last season was about his floor and we already know his ceiling is around 20 points over what he did last year. 

Forwards

Jason Horne-Francis:  If he does what he did last year he’ll be a top forward and he could do better. Pretty obvious. 

Jack Macrae:  He will be analyzed to death I’m sure. Simple me thinks he can safely go for 85-105 if played in the mids and not the sub, and he is priced at 73, so, easy. He has something to prove too, and the Saints did not bring him in to be on the bench or play out of his best position. 

Bailey Smith:  Just a smidge cheaper than Macrae and also seems safe for 85-105.  New team is likely to play him, and he also has something to prove. He is 24, which is a good year to break out. Was hurt of course, so who knows? But I feel better trying and failing with him than not trying, at least as of now. 

Caleb Daniel:  I suspect Caleb Daniel may be the locky-est of locks this season. Priced at 50ish and likely to go 90-110+ as the Roos kick-in taker person. He is really good at what his role needs and that role scores well in supercoach.  For the Roos, better than well. 

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Sam Flanders:  I do not feel good paying what he costs without seeing him do it again. Loved paying unders for him, not someone I want to risk paying overs for. 

Max Gawn:  I feel like he will miss games and score less and I still might have him if there were not other good options. At his price I don’t think he will overperform enough for me to hate not starting with him. 

Lloyd Meek:  Tempted by him, but not as much as the other two as of now.  

Everyone Else:  There are a lot of options. Lots of good ones. We have no idea who the real cows are yet and how they break down position-wise will matter a lot. We are not even up to the pre-season so all the speculation is, um, speculative. 

 

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14 thoughts on “Father Dougal’s Team Very First Thoughts”

  1. Nice write up FD!

    For Sicily, I am curious to see how new recruits Barrass and Battle shuffle around the Hawthorn backline.
    Sicily spent a decent time forward last season, which raises questions and if that becomes more permanent or if he stays back with Barrass now acting as key defender giving Sicily more opportunity to move around and play off half back

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    • Just to this point re Sicily, especially until Mitch Lewis comes back (likely mid to late season), and now with Dear having a back stress issue, I do think Sic is a near lock to start in the forward line. If these two issues weren’t relevant, and he was almost certain to play as the 3rd key defender, Sic would be locked in my side.

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      • I second this, feel it’s inevitable that either Sicily or Battle starts fwd, and I’d be surprised if it wasn’t Sic Dawg. The play might be to start without him, and instead to target him once the Hawks key fwd reinforcements arrive. The cherry on top would be him gaining DPP.

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  2. Great write up father as usual does anyone know where one may print out player price lists ? To study of a night when they take their4 kids camping asking for a friend can’t afford gold.

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    • Here are the 10 highest-priced players for each position, as well as dual-position players.

      Defenders
      Harry Sheezel – $635,600
      Luke Ryan – $628,300
      Lachie Whitfield – $598,100
      Dayne Zorko – $595,100
      Jeremy McGovern – $594,100
      Dan Houston – $575,600
      Nic Martin – $566,000
      Jordan Clark – $563,700
      Jordan Ridley – $552,600
      Nic Newman – $546,800

      Midfielders
      Marcus Bontempelli – $681,000
      Zak Butters – $648,900
      Lachie Neale – $645,900
      Nick Daicos – $631,400
      Isaac Heeney – $629,200
      Adam Treloar – $628,200
      Caleb Serong – $623,400
      Zach Merrett – $621,100
      Josh Dunkley – $602,300
      Patrick Cripps – $595,300

      Rucks
      Max Gawn – $668,900
      Tristan Xerri – $6645,900
      Rowan Marshall – $603,500
      Toby Nankervis – $594,000
      Tim English – $581,900
      Jarrod Witts – $581,300
      Brodie Grundy – $574,400
      Darcy Cameron – $566,500
      Lloyd Meek – $557,600
      Tom De Koning – $547,100

      Forwards
      Dylan Moore – $526,700
      Izak Rankine – $521,600
      Jesse Hogan – $497,800
      Brent Daniels – $585,000
      Harry McKay – $467,200
      Jeremy Cameron – $466,100
      Josh Treacy – $454,000
      Jake Waterman – $447,800
      Charlie Curnow – $444,200
      Gryan Miers – $441,400

      Dual-Position Players
      Sam Flanders – $641,500
      Jack Sinclair – $592,200
      Jason Horne-Francis – $537,000
      Max Holmes – $533,900
      Luke Jackson – $509,300
      Trent Rivers – $462,900
      Alex Neal-Bullen – $458,500
      Jake Lloyd – $444,400
      Liam Baker – $443,600
      Mason Wood – $431,700

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  3. Welcome back Coaches.
    Here is rather first iteration of The Buttslappers for 2025
    Backs – Shezzel Sinclair Coleman McKercher Gibcus El Hawii (Allan & Bice)
    Mids – The Bont N Daicos LDU Oliver ODriscoll Smith Draper Smillie (Hewitt Rowston Hayes)
    Ruck – Xerri TDK (Sims)
    Forwards – Daniel McCrae Smith Phillipou Thilthorpe Stone (Curtain & Erasmus)
    Flex – English

    Definitely think that a ruck is your best bet for the flex position.
    I have been tossing up between
    English and Phillipou or
    JHF and Flynn

    What are coaches thoughts?

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    • agree with the idea of having a ruck as a flex option…it will be Flynn for me if he gets the gig as I feel he can improve his SC scoring from 60 to 85/90 which also means extra $$$…

      …not convinced with Oliver yet…has plenty to prove I reckon…

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  4. Flynn gets the Flex gig if he’s the Number One Ruck and Clarry doesn’t seem to be impeded by any injuries this Pre season, he didn’t have one last year. Traccs looking Beastly too although he’s not in either my Fantasy or Supercoach squads.

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