Cow Talk R4 –> R5

Small or Far Away, Father Dougal on Cows

 

Hi Everybody!

This week, it is time for the Hitchhiker’s Guide to Supercoach. Any idea why?

Because the Hamster is running around in circles and flapping his paws, doing his best impression of someone who traded Horne-Francis for Will Day last week?

Panic! Panic! Panic! Time to panic!

DON’T PANIC!!!

Oh, ok. 

Don’t panic huh?

Yeah. People and hamsters all make bad decisions when panicked. 

Fear is the Mind Killer, Fear is the little death….

Yup yup yup.

Fear of missing out and grabbing someone for too high a price. Easy to do. Pay too much, get too little, not have funds for later, score fewer points. 

Sounds bad. 

Is bad.

Despair is bad too. Getting all down on someone who is having a rough patch and then watching them do better. No fun, wasted trade. 

And when you bring in someone who fails for someone who does better, that’s like misplacing a pumpkin seed. 

Yup yup yup. 

Yup yup yup

..why did you say that just then? Were you agreeing with yourself?

I just didn’t want to be left out

Right, the whole fear of missing out thing. In this case harmless. 

But not always in Supercoach. 

Yeah, right around now, people often start to panic. Or even Panic.  Thing is, there is a lot of season left, and careful movies are a lot more likely to work out than panic moves. 

How do you tell the difference! That seems hard. 

Yeah, so, um, I am often no good at that part. I was really bad at it last season. Lots of panic, and thinking extra trades, use ‘em. 

Not so good that. 

Not at all. So, my probably dodgy advice is to go back and look at what was expected of someone in the pre-season and then compare that to how they have done so far. Not just last week, but the whole season so far.  If they are cow or cow-like object, we can also look at their last score and BE to see how the cash gen looks. 

Because I have to anyways, I am going to do something I prefer not to and mostly don’t, which is look at my own team and players specifically. 

Last week, I did not trade Shezel or JHF.  Much more important to bring in money makers than to sideways premium, who I saw no reason to assume would suck all year. 

In JHF’s case, he was averaging 75. I doubt he’ll average worse than 95, so I expected him to get better. Maybe sooner, maybe later, but he had some bad runs last season. Rounds 17-19 he averaged 70. I suspect he’ll still be a top 6 forward, so kept. His sudden reversal was a surprise, I did not predict that at all. Just willing to give him up to his bye before deciding what do to with him. 

Ih Sheezel’s case, well, about the same. Hard time seeing him go for more than five less per match than last season, and so willing to ride it out and give him time. Again, I in no way expect an instant turn around, although with him it was not a surprise at all. 

But hindsight now foresight:

Roberts – Paid for an average of 81, getting an average of 103. Nice, happy.  If he slows down enough, maybe he can go after the upgrade season if there is someone enough better for a low enough cost. But silly to move him, no reason really. One bad game, not a reason. 

Bergman: In my mids because of some many defensive cows! Will be useful since he can go back when I sell one of them.  Paid for 78 and getting 90. His scores have gone up and his last score was his best; BE of 51. For sure hold and hope he keeps going at this or an even higher average. Maybe sell at his bye, will have lots more data by then. 

Freijah: Thought he would  go about 80- 85, he is at 81, and his last score is bad and his BE is bad. So, time to sell.  If he had just toned up maybe would keep. But, it looks like his two tons were lucky and he’s a fine player but not reliable enough to keep in back when there are so many good cash options. He is not a must go, but I plan to sell him.  Not for someone top priced, but a cow or some reasonably priced player. 

Will Ashcroft, more than fine, wow, hope he keeps it up, but not counting on it. Crazy to trade. 

Oliver.  Paid for 84 and getting a 100. Fine, nice no reason to do anything for a while if ever. Lots of time to see how he goes. 

Callahan. Glad his bad games came during the byes. Paid for 82 and getting 94. Will mix up good and bad games, but at some point will either become a clear keeper, or have a great score, maybe two close together and be sellable for enough to get a real premium. I expect to sell him someday for a real premium, but not any time soon. If I did not own him and he had another low scoring game, I’d start planning to bring him in. Way likely to go up in price at some point from where he is let alone from even lower. Very hard to imagine that the cash to upgrade him can;t be better spent elsewhere. 

Cerra: Paid for 83 and going at 104. Very happy. No reason to trade, another hold until byes or some big score shoots his price up. 

Ok and a few guys I do not own. I’m gonna pretend I do. 

Rozee. Paid for 98., hoped for 110, getting 100. Nice. Not thrilling, but nice. Two big scores, two low scores. Hold until his bye unless he has a huge spike that makes him worth selling sooner. No reason t think he can;t keep going at 100 for a good while, and he has shown he has big and small matches. String two big one together and good price rise. Lots more urgent things to deal with. 

Ed Richards: Paid for 99, getting 99, hoped for 110. So, once again, just hold, same logic that keeps coming up. Not as good as hoped, but lots of time left, not a problem. Better things to do. 

Nick Daicos: Well, darn. I could sell now and lock in a loss, and then watch other people bring him in at a low price before he get better. That sounds bad. Guess I keep him and ride it out. No reason to think he can;t still go for 115 over the season, means he is due. If he goes for 110, well, darn but that is a risk with paying for a player who scored 115+ the last two seasons, a high price. A BE of 130 is achievable. Better things to do. 

Sam Flanders: What was I thinking buying someone who’s 119 average last season was 30 points over his previous best and I had no reason to think he could back it up. Thank god I can sell him now before his prices drops. 

Feel like that is enough. By now everyone can do that. Not much to it really. 

Now, could my thinking be totally crazy? 

Yes

Yes

Yes. Darn well could be, But, no panicking. 

How about the cows and cow like objects?

At this point I want people who will play,even if they are not playing right now. I held Lindsay. I would have held Knevitt but I used him to get Bice, so worth it. NOD, well, may hold as a loop since I might need three trades before I get to him, so maybe next week. Not rushing Garcia nd SPP put they have low BEs and jobs. Heck, SPP is probably worth holding until he spikes. Try and miss guys with low BEs and bad job security. 

Who are they?

I am so the wrong person to ask. I am awful at predicting what coaches will do. Not even for my own team. 

Really, not even for your own team? Why is that?

Bevo. 

Oh, of course, I’m sorry. Have a pumpkin seed. 

But, I will say that it is ok to ignore how many games someone has played and just look at cost and BE. We would have been very happy to pay $203,400 for a guy who got a -98 BE after his first two games, so Bice is a must get if you do not have, which I do not say lightly. Not just for number, but the age number is 24, so he has a better than average chance of keeping up a good score and being a high scoring cow. Maybe even a steer, aka a keeper. 

Same with all the other guys who we might have missed last week. The Humper costs too much for too little upside now but was fine last week. Maric, um, probably not, but thinkable. He can put up big scores and spike.  

So, Let’s see about making it to upgrade season without having messed up our teams during the panic season. Which was last week and this week and maybe even next week. Cows not ripe, premiums mostly not fallen. Deal with Injuries and any real performance issues, but don;t waste trades on panic moves. Remember the whole Floating premium thing? Lots of them out there still. 

Still early for cows, but since I started doing them here they are. Please let me know if I missed any important ones. Since we have a small data sample their averages may not be really good indicators of how they will score from now on. That will get better as the weeks pass. 

 

Defenders

 

Z Reid
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 119,900
1 45 119,900
2 36 119,900
3 88 119,900
4 163,100
5 56.3 163,100
6 56.3 200,695 37,595 37,595
7 56.3 237,559 36,865 74,459
8 56.3 250,873 13,313 87,773
9 56.3 260,741 9,868 97,641
10 56.3 268,056 7,315 104,956

 

Trainor
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 133,500
1 50 133,500
2 24 133,500
3 90 133,500
4 82 156,200
5 61.5 201,400
6 61.5 252,611 51,211 51,211
7 61.5 277,959 25,349 76,559
8 61.5 287,678 9,718 86,278
9 61.5 294,882 7,204 93,482
10 61.5 300,221 5,340 98,821

 

Prior
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 169,200
1 50 169,200
2 57 169,200
3 78 169,200
4 163,100
5 61.7 163,100
6 61.7 207,922 44,822 44,822
7 61.7 243,212 35,289 80,112
8 61.7 262,142 18,931 99,042
9 61.7 276,175 14,032 113,075
10 61.7 286,576 10,401 123,476

 

Bice
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 113,500
1 52 113,500
2 96 113,500
3 113,500
4 124 113,500
5 90.7 203,400
6 90.7 288,240 84,840 84,840
7 90.7 348,767 60,527 145,367
8 90.7 378,882 30,116 175,482
9 90.7 401,205 22,323 197,805
10 90.7 417,752 16,547 214,352

 

O’Sullivan
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 148,700
1 48 148,700
2 88 148,700
3 77 148,700
4 103 203,900
5 79.0 268,200
6 79.0 313,410 45,210 45,210
7 79.0 347,807 34,397 79,607
8 79.0 362,683 14,876 94,483
9 79.0 373,710 11,027 105,510
10 79.0 381,884 8,174 113,684

 

Midfielders

 

Levi Ashcroft
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 185,500
1 84 185,500
2 72 185,500
3 36 185,500
4 87 221,700
5 69.8 249,100
6 69.8 269,936 20,836 20,836
7 69.8 300,316 30,379 51,216
8 69.8 315,201 14,885 66,101
9 69.8 326,235 11,034 77,135
10 69.8 334,414 8,179 85,314

 

Knevitt
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 145,800
1 82 145,800
2 58 145,800
3 20 145,800
4 181,200
5 53.3 181,200
6 53.3 166,764 -14,436 -14,436
7 53.3 170,813 4,049 -10,387
8 53.3 197,415 26,602 16,215
9 53.3 217,133 19,718 35,933
10 53.3 231,749 14,616 50,549

 

O’Sullivan
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 199,000
1 51 199,000
2 42 199,000
3 44 199,000
4 207,400
5 45.7 207,400
6 45.7 193,412 -13,988 -13,988
7 45.7 183,781 -9,631 -23,619
8 45.7 196,850 13,069 -10,550
9 45.7 206,537 9,687 -863
10 45.7 213,717 7,180 6,317

 

O’Driscoll
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 198,000
1 91 198,000
2 95 198,000
3 104 198,000
4 46 274,200
5 84.0 309,800
6 84.0 333,183 23,383 23,383
7 84.0 341,666 8,483 31,866
8 84.0 364,769 23,103 54,969
9 84.0 381,894 17,125 72,094
10 84.0 394,588 12,694 84,788

 

M Reid
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 131,500
1 50 131,500
2 75 131,500
3 106 131,500
4 73 199,100
5 76.0 258,500
6 76.0 304,450 45,950 45,950
7 76.0 325,235 20,785 66,735
8 76.0 341,969 16,734 83,469
9 76.0 354,374 12,404 95,874
10 76.0 363,569 9,195 105,069

 

Lindsay
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 158,500
1 86 158,500
2 78 158,500
3 9 158,500
4 193,400
5 57.7 193,400
6 57.7 172,857 -20,543 -20,543
7 57.7 179,165 6,308 -14,235
8 57.7 209,358 30,193 15,958
9 57.7 231,738 22,380 38,338
10 57.7 248,328 16,589 54,928

 

Henderson
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 99,100
1 55 99,100
2 72 99,100
3 43 99,100
4 32 148,300
5 50.5 173,500
6 50.5 184,140 10,640 10,640
7 50.5 195,346 11,206 21,846
8 50.5 211,838 16,492 38,338
9 50.5 224,063 12,225 50,563
10 50.5 233,125 9,062 59,625

 

Moraes
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 113,500
1 113,500
2 52 113,500
3 94 113,500
4 43 113,500
5 63.0 166,800
6 63.0 212,140 45,340 45,340
7 63.0 232,031 19,891 65,231
8 63.0 255,624 23,594 88,824
9 63.0 273,113 17,489 106,313
10 63.0 286,077 12,964 119,277

 

Lalor
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 203,500
1 74 203,500
2 39 203,500
3 45 203,500
4 112 220,759
5 67.5 250,367
6 67.5 284,925 34,558 34,558
7 67.5 320,497 35,572 70,130
8 67.5 327,174 6,677 76,807
9 67.5 332,123 4,949 81,756
10 67.5 335,791 3,668 85,425

 

Rucks

Bzzz

Forwards

 

Hugo Garcia
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 245,800
1 54 245,800
2 25 245,800
3 99 245,800
4 54 260,000
5 58.0 269,800
6 58.0 293,356 23,556 23,556
7 58.0 292,674 -682 22,874
8 58.0 293,939 1,265 24,139
9 58.0 294,876 937 25,076
10 58.0 295,571 695 25,771

 

Davidson
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 113,500
1 39 113,500
2 72 113,500
3 129 113,500
4 54 189,800
5 73.5 252,100
6 73.5 300,370 48,270 48,270
7 73.5 311,591 11,221 59,491
8 73.5 328,537 16,946 76,437
9 73.5 341,098 12,561 88,998
10 73.5 350,409 9,311 98,309

 

Kako
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 149,500
1 62 149,500
2 34 149,500
3 62 149,500
4 163,100
5 52.7 163,100
6 52.7 171,637 8,537 8,537
7 52.7 173,836 2,198 10,736
8 52.7 198,770 24,934 35,670
9 52.7 217,253 18,483 54,153
10 52.7 230,953 13,700 67,853

 

Lynch
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 183,200
1 61 183,200
2 183,200
3 42 183,200
4 37 183,200
5 46.7 196,600
6 46.7 201,337 4,737 4,737
7 46.7 206,913 5,576 10,313
8 46.7 215,323 8,411 18,723
9 46.7 221,558 6,234 24,958
10 46.7 226,179 4,621 29,579

 

Sam PP
Week Score Price Proj. Change Total Proj
0 180,500
1 18 180,500
2 83 180,500
3 48 180,500
4 74 199,000
5 55.8 236,800
6 55.8 254,182 17,382 17,382
7 55.8 270,495 16,313 33,695
8 55.8 274,512 4,017 37,712
9 55.8 277,489 2,977 40,689
10 55.8 279,696 2,207 42,896

 

 

 Dodgy Advice: Well, any player specific advice from me is probably a bit dodgy, aside from obvious stuff like get Bice. 

 

 

Remember the Cow Talk guarantee: “All predictions wrong or triple your money back!”  (Offer not valid if money is actually involved.)

I am time zonally challenged.  When Cow Talk goes live, I’m probably asleep, so replies from me may take a while.

Thanks for reading!

 

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11 thoughts on “Cow Talk R4 –> R5”

  1. Top read.

    When you say “Paid for an average of 81, getting an average of 103”, how is the paid for number calculated? Silly question??

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    • I am too, lets hope it works out! But, remeber the Cow Talk guarantee: “All predictions wrong or triple your money back!” (Offer not valid if money is actually involved.)

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  2. Not silly. There’s a “magic number” that tells you what a player should average based on their starting price (someone else can probably explain better where that number comes from, but my understanding is that it’s because a set number of SC points are allotted for each game).

    That number changes slightly from year to year, but it’s generally around 5,300. So if a player is priced at $530k, they are priced at an average of 100.

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  3. Great article as usual

    Something that not even Marvin could have come up with (he does have a brain the size of a planet you know)

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