Small or Far Away, Father Dougal on Cows
Hi Everybody!
I will gladly pay you Tuesday, for a pumpkin seed today.
What are you going to pay me with?
…An IOU!
Don’t you give him pumpkins seeds for free?
Well, yeah, although he does help with Cow Talk.
Don’t forget I am The Cute!
True.
But, that does, sort of lead into something that is both obvious but maybe not clear without numbers.
By sort of, you mean, not really?
Hey if it comes before it leads into! I’m earning my pumpkin seeds here, don’t mess it up!
Well, Um, yes to all that.
Anyways, I was thinking about bringing in Naicos, since I missed him before, but he has a bye still. Which, not so good. Aside from his rather low recent average, but that is not the point. How much do you lose by bringing in a player with a bye left vs one without.
Very happily, this week there are 11 weeks left, making the math easy-ish.
It turns out that if you get someone with a bye left, who you expect to score at 110, that is the same as getting someone who you expect to score 100. Also, that means one less player on their bye, which could cost points.
Has Bye | No Bye | |
13 | 100 | |
14 | 110 | 100 |
15 | 110 | 100 |
16 | 110 | 100 |
17 | 110 | 100 |
18 | 110 | 100 |
19 | 110 | 100 |
20 | 110 | 100 |
21 | 110 | 100 |
22 | 110 | 100 |
23 | 110 | 100 |
1100 | 1100 |
Same idea below, but with the bye-having player only averaging 100. Only takes a 91 average to equal that.
Has Bye | No Bye | |
13 | 91 | |
14 | 100 | 91 |
15 | 100 | 91 |
16 | 100 | 91 |
17 | 100 | 91 |
18 | 100 | 91 |
19 | 100 | 91 |
20 | 100 | 91 |
21 | 100 | 91 |
22 | 100 | 91 |
23 | 100 | 91 |
1000 | 1001 |
So, my idea of getting Naicos seems rather silly. I could either spend the same on a player who had the R12 bye and get more points, or buy someone cheaper who will score the same.
Which are you doing?
Well, since those exact cases don;t exist, I’m learning towards getting a more expensive R12 player who should average more anyways, like Bont or Libba. The real world does not give you nice neatly wrapped options like out math examples. But let’s see…
Nick Daicos costs $535,100, if he averages 115 for the rest of the season, that’s 1150 points.
Adam Cerra costs 513,100. If he averages 104.8 for the rest of the season, that’s 1153 points.
So, it turns out there is a real world example. If you only have the money for Naicos, you can get Cerra for $22,000 less and get the same points. That assume Naicos goes at 115 from here on out, which is over his current 108.1 average.
So, as we knew, don’t trade in players who have not had their byes.
Unless they are cows and downgrade targets.
Right, ok don’t trade in premium players who have not had their byes.
At this point who stays and goes is mostly about how much cash is needed for trade ins and bye cover. But, gonna do normal-ish commentary anyways, just in case. But, really, short term cash movements are less important. Unless someone put up a single digit score or something…..
Defenders
Trainor: Two 28s in a row, where the heck did that come from. Prime sale candidate.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 133,500 | |||
1 | 50 | 133,500 | ||
2 | 24 | 133,500 | ||
3 | 90 | 133,500 | ||
4 | 82 | 156,200 | ||
5 | 80 | 201,400 | ||
6 | 2 | 259,500 | ||
7 | 66 | 264,200 | ||
8 | 82 | 260,800 | ||
9 | 46 | 259,500 | ||
10 | 52 | 277,400 | ||
11 | 28 | 284,100 | ||
12 | 28 | 265,000 | ||
13 | 52.5 | 242,800 | ||
14 | ||||
15 | 52.5 | 226,757 | -16,043 | -16,043 |
16 | 52.5 | 225,711 | -1,045 | -17,089 |
17 | 52.5 | 235,723 | 10,012 | -7,077 |
Prior: May be at his high point price wise
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 169,200 | |||
1 | 50 | 169,200 | ||
2 | 57 | 169,200 | ||
3 | 78 | 169,200 | ||
4 | 163,100 | |||
5 | 54 | 163,100 | ||
6 | 92 | 235,500 | ||
7 | 43 | 273,000 | ||
8 | 57 | 285,500 | ||
9 | 93 | 296,300 | ||
10 | 69 | 304,200 | ||
11 | 87 | 321,100 | ||
12 | 59 | 346,500 | ||
13 | 67.2 | 350,100 | ||
14 | 67.2 | 335,964 | -14,136 | -14,136 |
15 | 67.2 | 337,040 | 1,076 | -13,060 |
16 | ||||
17 | 67.2 | 337,185 | 146 | -12,915 |
Bice: What the Bleep! So much for bye cover. Sell this week for sure it seems. Dang.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 113,500 | |||
1 | 52 | 113,500 | ||
2 | 96 | 113,500 | ||
3 | 113,500 | |||
4 | 124 | 113,500 | ||
5 | 89 | 203,400 | ||
6 | 79 | 286,100 | ||
7 | 101 | 340,400 | ||
8 | 49 | 370,800 | ||
9 | 71 | 375,800 | ||
10 | 55 | 375,300 | ||
11 | 68 | 354,100 | ||
12 | 9 | 346,600 | ||
13 | 72.1 | 313,500 | ||
14 | ||||
15 | 72.1 | 296,745 | -16,755 | -16,755 |
16 | 72.1 | 286,192 | -10,552 | -27,308 |
17 | 72.1 | 306,180 | 19,987 | -7,320 |
Connor O’Sullivan: Wow, nice score. Can be held to his bye, assuming you no need for the cash for upgrades, which is rather likely.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 148,700 | |||
1 | 48 | 148,700 | ||
2 | 88 | 148,700 | ||
3 | 77 | 148,700 | ||
4 | 103 | 203,900 | ||
5 | 42 | 268,200 | ||
6 | 54 | 295,400 | ||
7 | 95 | 306,400 | ||
8 | 48 | 310,500 | ||
9 | 49 | 317,300 | ||
10 | 26 | 319,300 | ||
11 | 289,800 | |||
12 | 95 | 289,800 | ||
13 | 65.9 | 288,500 | ||
14 | 65.9 | 288,056 | -444 | -444 |
15 | 65.9 | 304,890 | 16,834 | 16,390 |
16 | ||||
17 | 65.9 | 311,803 | 6,912 | 23,303 |
Brock: Well, he’s going far better than was expected. No rush to trade for sure. Not the end of the world if you need to hold him across his bye to cover for R16.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 99,100 | |||
1 | 99,100 | |||
2 | 99,100 | |||
3 | 99,100 | |||
4 | 80 | 99,100 | ||
5 | 39 | 99,100 | ||
6 | 99,100 | |||
7 | 99,100 | |||
8 | 99,100 | |||
9 | 60 | 99,100 | ||
10 | 57 | 152,300 | ||
11 | 79 | 181,200 | ||
12 | 51 | 220,000 | ||
13 | 61.0 | 244,600 | ||
14 | 61.0 | 248,751 | 4,151 | 4,151 |
15 | ||||
16 | 61.0 | 265,493 | 16,743 | 20,893 |
17 | 61.0 | 265,513 | 20 | 20,913 |
Travaglia: Has made so little seems a waste to trade him if he can keep his job. Which I have no idea about.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 172,000 | |||
1 | 172,000 | |||
2 | 172,000 | |||
3 | 83 | 172,000 | ||
4 | 52 | 172,000 | ||
5 | 21 | 172,000 | ||
6 | 195,400 | |||
7 | 195,400 | |||
8 | 0 | 195,400 | ||
9 | 195,400 | |||
10 | 22 | 195,400 | ||
11 | 56 | 186,100 | ||
12 | 49 | 180,800 | ||
13 | ||||
14 | 40.4 | 189,200 | ||
15 | 40.4 | 203,493 | 14,293 | 14,293 |
16 | 40.4 | 207,177 | 3,684 | 17,977 |
17 | 40.4 | 188,327 | -18,849 | -873 |
Midfielders
M Reid: Very hard to trade out with that 104 still in his system and money tight. Such an easy bye few will have to.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 131,500 | |||
1 | 50 | 131,500 | ||
2 | 75 | 131,500 | ||
3 | 106 | 131,500 | ||
4 | 73 | 199,100 | ||
5 | 58 | 258,500 | ||
6 | 82 | 294,900 | ||
7 | 35 | 312,000 | ||
8 | 50 | 308,200 | ||
9 | 36 | 302,000 | ||
10 | 69 | 276,500 | ||
11 | 104 | 272,400 | ||
12 | 50 | 292,900 | ||
13 | ||||
14 | 65.7 | 314,100 | ||
15 | 65.7 | 328,248 | 14,148 | 14,148 |
16 | 65.7 | 321,808 | -6,440 | 7,708 |
17 | 65.7 | 295,055 | -26,754 | -19,045 |
Lindsay: Looks safe to his bye. No Jinkx, no Bice.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 158,500 | |||
1 | 86 | 158,500 | ||
2 | 78 | 158,500 | ||
3 | 9 | 158,500 | ||
4 | 193,400 | |||
5 | 48 | 193,400 | ||
6 | 55 | 202,000 | ||
7 | 78 | 198,700 | ||
8 | 56 | 227,000 | ||
9 | 71 | 251,700 | ||
10 | 67 | 276,500 | ||
11 | 80 | 289,600 | ||
12 | 59 | 309,700 | ||
13 | 62.5 | 319,000 | ||
14 | 62.5 | 324,834 | 5,834 | 5,834 |
15 | ||||
16 | 62.5 | 320,424 | -4,409 | 1,424 |
17 | 62.5 | 318,694 | -1,730 | -306 |
Moraes: Had his Bye
Long: He has averaged 97 since he got a full time role. IF you can afford to trade him out at his bye, that will probably be his highest value. Feel like he’d make a fine M8..M7 maybe…
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 30 | 200,900 | ||
1 | 113 | 200,900 | ||
2 | 57 | 200,900 | ||
3 | 240,000 | |||
4 | 26 | 240,000 | ||
5 | 114 | 263,000 | ||
6 | 96 | 280,600 | ||
7 | 87 | 311,600 | ||
8 | 94 | 361,900 | ||
9 | 65 | 390,100 | ||
10 | 94 | 397,500 | ||
11 | 134 | 404,600 | ||
12 | 93 | 427,500 | ||
13 | 83.6 | 456,600 | ||
14 | ||||
15 | 83.6 | 473,320 | 16,720 | 16,720 |
16 | 83.6 | 463,458 | -9,862 | 6,858 |
17 | 83.6 | 452,043 | -11,415 | -4,557 |
Rucks
Flynn: Well, he plays Xerri next, so maybe sell now? Seems likely to drop real soon now. You never know, but….
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 261,900 | |||
1 | 87 | 261,900 | ||
2 | 261,900 | |||
3 | 261,900 | |||
4 | 261,900 | |||
5 | 261,900 | |||
6 | 141 | 261,900 | ||
7 | 105 | 261,900 | ||
8 | 53 | 341,100 | ||
9 | 80 | 384,900 | ||
10 | 111 | 389,500 | ||
11 | 46 | 395,000 | ||
12 | 79 | 395,700 | ||
13 | 87.8 | 395,600 | ||
14 | 87.8 | 386,466 | -9,134 | -9,134 |
15 | ||||
16 | 87.8 | 396,931 | 10,465 | 1,331 |
17 | 87.8 | 408,497 | 11,566 | 12,897 |
Forwards
Levi Ashcroft: If he does well this week he might hold his price to the bye. I suspect few will own him after R14, but you never know.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 185,500 | |||
1 | 84 | 185,500 | ||
2 | 72 | 185,500 | ||
3 | 36 | 185,500 | ||
4 | 87 | 221,700 | ||
5 | 90 | 249,100 | ||
6 | 89 | 277,400 | ||
7 | 68 | 322,500 | ||
8 | 99 | 347,800 | ||
9 | 77 | 370,800 | ||
10 | 68 | 381,800 | ||
11 | 95 | 389,300 | ||
12 | 59 | 392,800 | ||
13 | 77.0 | 387,300 | ||
14 | 77.0 | 388,385 | 1,085 | 1,085 |
15 | 77.0 | 381,241 | -7,144 | -6,059 |
16 | ||||
17 | 77.0 | 382,736 | 1,495 | -4,564 |
Davidson: Has his bye
Kako: His 52 came in handy for a lot of people last round, and might well again. Lack of cash to get from him makes him more likely to stay around a few more weeks.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 149,500 | |||
1 | 62 | 149,500 | ||
2 | 34 | 149,500 | ||
3 | 62 | 149,500 | ||
4 | 163,100 | |||
5 | 38 | 163,100 | ||
6 | 55 | 191,700 | ||
7 | 49 | 210,200 | ||
8 | 60 | 218,300 | ||
9 | 30 | 234,200 | ||
10 | 32 | 234,500 | ||
11 | 44 | 226,900 | ||
12 | 52 | 214,000 | ||
13 | 47.1 | 214,100 | ||
14 | 47.1 | 221,495 | 7,395 | 7,395 |
15 | 47.1 | 228,329 | 6,833 | 14,229 |
16 | ||||
17 | 47.1 | 230,511 | 2,183 | 16,411 |
Sam PP: Had his Bye
Curtain: Sure did well the last few weeks. Very likely to be a good hold one more week.
Week | Score | Price | Proj. Change | Total Proj |
0 | 158,600 | |||
1 | 26 | 158,600 | ||
2 | 82 | 158,600 | ||
3 | 90 | 158,600 | ||
4 | 65 | 204,500 | ||
5 | 42 | 254,900 | ||
6 | 48 | 274,600 | ||
7 | 41 | 271,400 | ||
8 | 73 | 258,700 | ||
9 | 22 | 263,200 | ||
10 | 65 | 254,600 | ||
11 | 83 | 258,400 | ||
12 | 72 | 265,400 | ||
13 | 59.1 | 292,500 | ||
14 | 59.1 | 310,812 | 18,312 | 18,312 |
15 | ||||
16 | 59.1 | 312,841 | 2,029 | 20,341 |
17 | 59.1 | 308,652 | -4,189 | 16,152 |
Dodgy Advice: A bit long range this one, but if you are having trouble getting to 23, Sam facey is coming back soon, and then after two more weeks he may be cheap, and he can score. So, maybe plan way ahead?
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Sage advice Father, many thanks
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