Where and When: 3:20pm today at the MCG
What it means for the Demons: Staying undefeated. Top of the ladder too I suppose.
What it means for the Blues: Well….a win puts them in the hunt to be just out of the eight. It is hard to see them making the eight, and if they somehow do, they probably won’t get far. But you never know. They have been rebuilding literally as long as I have been following footy, so at some point they have to step up. Could be this year still, if the stars align. Which means winning this match as a start. Well, maybe winning the next match, since they are playing the 8-0 Demons this match.
Supercoach Watch:
Demons: Oliver and Petracca, Jordon. May, Lever.
Blues : Cripps, Wlash, Docerty, Williams, Saad, Parks.
Father Dougal’s Watch: Gawn, my not so reliable recently captain.
Father Dougal’s Tip: Undefeated Demons, Hmm, let’s see. Demons by 30.
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Melbourne Sub
Jake Melksham
Carlton Sub
Michael Gibbons
David Cuningham left knee injury early first quarter. Subbed out.
Michael Gibbons on.
Harry McKay shoulder being assessed in the rooms first quarter.
Returned to sit on bench but short time later returned down to the rooms with the doctor.
Has returned to ground with 3 mins to go in quarter.
1/4 Time and with Tom McDonald kicking a goal after the siren, the Demons lead the Blues by 7 points
DEMONS
Steven May 43
Christian Salem 40
Clayton Oliver 35
Tom McDonald 34
Jake Lever 32
Ed Langdon 28
Jayden Hunt 28
Christian Petracca 27
Bayley Fritsch* 26
Max Gawn 25
Alex Neal-Bullen 24
Michael Hibberd 24
Sam Weideman 24
Angus Brayshaw 21
James Harmes 21
Charlie Spargo 14
James Jordon 13
Ben Brown 10
Harrison Petty 9
Trent Rivers 6
Kysaiah Pickett 3
Jake Melksham 1
Kade Chandler -4
BLUES
Marc Pittonet 42
Sam Docherty 39
Lachlan Fogarty 33
Ed Curnow 32
Patrick Cripps 29
Adam Saad 28
Eddie Betts 25
Sam Walsh 23
Matthew Owies 22
Will Setterfield 17
Zac Williams 17
Nic Newman 13
Levi Casboult 12
Matthew Cottrell 11
Liam Stocker 9
Jacob Weitering 9
Marc Murphy 9
Luke Parks 7
Liam Jones 3
Harry McKay 3
Michael Gibbons 2
David Cuningham 1
Lachlan Plowman -3
please max help me out here. I’d love anything above a 120, im begging you
not looking good Tom … the two big rucks are being scored harshly this year …
Gawn currently on 6 touches 2 tackles 3 clearance and 16 ho for only 31 points…
yep, given the scoring system gives 5 points for a HO – they are basically saying not a single one of Gawn’s hitouts are to advantage …
It’s non sense scoring for Gawn vs Pitt – the latter has been more effective with the ball and kicked a goal but that still doesn’t justify Gawn 38 and Pitt 57 at half time.
Just because they get hitouts, doesn’t mean it’s productive…..
…..and now that I’ve said that, does anyone know if clear hitouts go to an opposition player they are treated like kick/handball turnovers?
Macca????……
THese are the advised scoring statistics this year … I think in past year there was minus one for a hitout to opposition, (but not sure) and there isn’t one of those stats this year … so for now and the argument, assume no loss of points and no points for the HO.
For Gawn’s score (38 at HT), with 17 HO’s now, 4 kicks, 3HB’s, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 5CP’s and 3 frees for and 1 against and somehow 4 clangers, 1 of which is the free, … he’s been scored pretty damn harshly … even if you give him only 5 hitouts to advantage, that’s a starting score of 25 … to only be on 38 is BS …
Stat Awarded/Deducted
Effective kick 4 Points
Ineffective kick 0 Points
Clanger kick -4 Points
Effective Handball 1.5 Points
Ineffective handball 0 Points
Handball clanger -4 Points
Handball receive 1.5 Point
Hardball get 4.5 Points
Loose-ball get 4.5 Points
Goal 8 Points
Behind 1 Point
Mark uncontested (maintaining possession) 2 Points
Mark contested (maintaining possession) 6 Points
Mark uncontested (from opposition) 4 Points
Mark contested (from opposition) 8 Points
Tackles 4 Points
Free kick for 4 Points
Free kick against -4 Points
Hitout to Advantage 5 Points
Gather from Hitout 2 Points
Not sure if this is correct, but I have been told before that sharked hitouts score negative points
-edit: sorry Macca, just saw you already said that
yeah, there was definitely a minus 1 point last year in the official scoring stats on the SC site … but it’s not there this year, which is interesting … not sure if it’s still in existence … based on how Maxxy was scored at half time … you would have to assume that he has been losing points for his taps … otherwise it just doesn’t make any sense for his scores … and again, this is just stats as recorded … which doesn’t necessarily equate to what has actually happened on the field!!
Feeling like I should have taken Grundy’s 109 VC Score…
Half Time and its the Dees 13 points in front of Carlton with Harry McKay clearly struggling with a shoulder injury and I’m considering Tom McDonald a forward option
Melb 8.6.54 to Carl 6.5.41
MELBOURNE
Tom McDonald 90
Clayton Oliver 69
Christian Salem 64
Steven May 56
Ed Langdon 52
Jake Lever 51
James Harmes 47
Jayden Hunt 46
Christian Petracca 45
Michael Hibberd 42
Max Gawn 38
Bayley Fritsch* 38
Sam Weideman 33
Angus Brayshaw 31
Alex Neal-Bullen 31
James Jordon 29
Trent Rivers 29
Charlie Spargo 27
Ben Brown 20
Harrison Petty 18
Kysaiah Pickett 16
Jake Melksham 1
Kade Chandler -1
CARLTON
Sam Docherty 70
Sam Walsh 60
Marc Pittonet 56
Patrick Cripps 55
Marc Murphy 54
Lachlan Fogarty 51
Ed Curnow 50
Will Setterfield 44
Eddie Betts 43
Levi Casboult 39
Nic Newman 38
Zac Williams 37
Matthew Cottrell 31
Matthew Owies 30
Liam Stocker 29
Harry McKay 25
Adam Saad 23
Jacob Weitering 21
Lachlan Plowman 19
Michael Gibbons 17
Luke Parks 17
Liam Jones 13
David Cuningham 1
I think your Capt decision was fine Lisa……
Thanks Lisa!
Biggest quesiton is. With no Marshall now, am I crazy for looking at Mcdonald. Who else do i upgrade this week in the forward line. Ive got zorko dusty ziebell. Do i go hall? I have no idea and all the options are not appealing in the slightest… sigh
impey looking like a must have …
82% of top 5k teams have Gawn as Captain.
With arguably the 2 most common VCs this week not firing (Macrae and Grundy) most people similar to me ran the risk of Gawn today in the hope that he could deliver.
In my day CT, they would have built a library around someone like you……LOL
Haha, Thank you Chameleon.
So, here’s an early poll question for the week (and feel free to answer here folks with the T/U or T/D’s :
is Docherty a must have in the top 6 defenders??
I think hes close macca but not a must have and not a certainty for top 6. If there was no cash limit Id have the below ahead of him in no particular order.
Lloyd
Mills
Ridley
Stewart
Laird
Salem
Similar to Docherty for same who will be close to top 6 but not top 6
Rich
Salem
Ryan
Short
Crisp
Houston
Just my two cents but would be an interesting poll for sure.
Is supercoach scoring Gawn badly?
Yes – IMHO – especially at half time … he’s gone up about 50 this quarter … but his HT score was BS …
Was watching the third quarter, and Maxy’s contested hitouts went down the throats of contesting receivers who then maintained possession with perfect passes to receivers.
The judgement scoring was working well for him…….
Just before half time gawn got upscaled in a big jump from 28 to 40, no extra possessions, no extra hitouts. Then got upscaled during half time to 48.
Then by the 4 minute mark of Q3 got up to 58 – he may have actually got a couple of hitouts in those 4 minutes so I will reserve judgement on that.
Then another 13 more points in upscaling after the final siren.
I’ve got him, but it certainly doesn’t look right or fair. It looks like 30 odd points given to him because of no other reason than Champion Data wanted to.
3/4 Time and the Dees stretch their lead to 26 points
MELB
Tom McDonald 118
Clayton Oliver 103
Christian Salem 92
Max Gawn 84
Ed Langdon 84
Steven May 81
James Jordon 78
Christian Petracca 76
Jake Lever 70
Jayden Hunt 64
Bayley Fritsch* 61
Alex Neal-Bullen 60
James Harmes 59
Sam Weideman 44
Michael Hibberd 43
Trent Rivers 43
Angus Brayshaw 42
Charlie Spargo 39
Kysaiah Pickett 38
Harrison Petty 37
Ben Brown 37
Jake Melksham 1
Kade Chandler -2
CARLTON
Sam Docherty 96
Sam Walsh 87
Ed Curnow 79
Marc Pittonet 77
Patrick Cripps 76
Zac Williams 68
Marc Murphy 63
Harry McKay 60
Adam Saad 58
Lachlan Fogarty 56
Will Setterfield 55
Matthew Cottrell 47
Liam Stocker 46
Nic Newman 46
Matthew Owies 46
Levi Casboult 44
Eddie Betts 40
Jacob Weitering 36
Michael Gibbons 28
Luke Parks 25
Liam Jones 20
Lachlan Plowman 17
David Cuningham 1
Petracca hurting me every week for picking him up a couple weeks ago over bont or lyons 🙁 Should of backed lyons like I did all of last year.
Full Time and the Demons unbeaten run continues as they run out 26 point winners over the Blues
DEMONS
Clayton Oliver 126
Tom McDonald 126
Christian Salem 109
Max Gawn 104
Ed Langdon 99
Steven May 92
Christian Petracca 88
James Jordon 83
Jake Lever 82
Alex Neal-Bullen 74
James Harmes 74
Jayden Hunt 69
Bayley Fritsch* 66
Angus Brayshaw 56
Charlie Spargo 56
Michael Hibberd 54
Trent Rivers 53
Kysaiah Pickett 50
Sam Weideman 50
Harrison Petty 47
Ben Brown 44
Kade Chandler 7
Jake Melksham
CARLTON
Sam Docherty 112
Sam Walsh 103
Ed Curnow 95
Patrick Cripps 94
Marc Pittonet 93
Marc Murphy 83
Adam Saad 77
Zac Williams 77
Lachlan Fogarty 69
Will Setterfield 69
Harry McKay 67
Nic Newman 66
Matthew Cottrell 53
Matthew Owies 53
Levi Casboult 53
Eddie Betts 47
Liam Stocker 47
Michael Gibbons 45
Jacob Weitering 41
Luke Parks 26
Lachlan Plowman 24
Liam Jones 23
David Cuningham 0
275 points still to be allocated
some big adjustments to key players –
Gawn up to 117,
Jordan up to 96,
TRacca up to 101
Satan up to 140!
Doc uo to 120
Walsh to 111
Cripps – nahdah … stayed the same
It is making a mockery of the “final scores” as the variation finally posted is so far different that you can only shake your head and wonder how?
I have four players that gained out of those six (Gawn, Walsh, Oliver and Jordan) so personally I benefitted but it is a worrying trend that doesn’t give the game’s scoring much creditability.
There is NO scoring credibility now.
It’s the special “champion data favourites” award.
Watching points ACTUALLY get taken off players after the game ends so they can give it to their mates absolutely disgusts me.
He’s not a favourite but t.greene has been scaled down the last 2 weeks with everyone around him going up.
They did that to Jesse Hogan and Tim Taranto as well. Even while scaling up people who got far far less raw score.
Gawn up to 117! Handy for my skipper
Glad I went walker to clarry this week 😉
James Jordon
Rd 9 Price $326k
2021 Scores: 78/82/49/24/76/82/91/85
Rd9 BE 18
Rd 9 Score 96
Rd 9 : $326k->$361k (+$35k)
Rd10 BE 34
Projected Score 80
Rd 10 : $361k->$381k (+$20k)
Rd11 : $381k->$394k (+$13k)
Rd 12 : $394k->$396k (+$2k)
Rd 13 : $396k->$397k (+$1k)
Rd 14 : BYE
I needed Petracca to get 28 touches to win a multi and I swear he got it but they didn’t add it on. Could someone please explain to me the process of this do they review it ? If so when is the final count down? Thanks for the help guys.
Don’t worry about it
Win today , gone tomorrow
Gamblers always loose
More certain than death & taxes
This is just a stupid & irrelevant comment. Thanks for being mature about it or is this your normal self?