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Is it a year of value and mid price picks?
M. Holmes, J. Short, C. Mills, K. Coleman, J. Gibcus, B. Allen (Rookie, Rookie)
N. Daicos, T. Green, E. Richards, C. Rozee, W. Ashcroft, J. Peatling, J. Smillie, E. Hewett (Rookie, Rookie, Rookie)
D. Cameron, T. De Koning (Rookie)
JHF, L. Baker, J. Macrae, B. Smith, C. Daniel, D. Curtin (Rookie, Rookie)
C. Oliver/W. Day
Ed Richards gang. Hell yeah.
One of my non-negotiables.
Team made in 30 minutes without any consideration of byes
DEF: Flanders, Sheezel, Coleman, Doedee, Travaglia, El-Hawli (Leake, Trainor)
MID: Bont, Daicos, Merrett, W.Ashcroft, Peatling, Cumming, Lalor, L.Ashcroft (Hannaford, Dattoli, Edwards)
RUC: Xerri, Marshall (Sims)
FWD: Macrae, Smith, Daniel, Kako, Berry, Armstrong (Angove, Whitlock)
FLEX: Gawn
$194k itb
Hey, Nato.
First team I’ve seen (between here and a few other places) using the flex for a triple ruck.
Have no clue how to use the flex rn but that could be deadly.
R1 Xerri abuses a timid Tingles, Maxxy brushes aside Briggs and RoMo dances around ROB. 3x 140s lmao.
If one gets injured I then have coverage as my rookie gets the sub in and becomes a forward FLEX.
There have been so many to choose from in the past couple of seasons and is no longer a set and forget 2. A lot of potential points sitting there.
When the pre season gets going it will be interesting to make a poll on who coaches think is the optimal player for the FLEX. DPP/rookie/midpricer/ruck etc.
Until full premo – flex doesn’t matter really
Like you’ve shown best use seems to be ruck cover without needing a Ruck/forward.
Once at full premo. Starts to matter more but in reality it’s whoever is the best scorer out of D7/M9/R3 or F7
That would mean Gawn can’t be c
Just switch him with another ruck when I want him C. Can only have 1 VC, 1 C. If I want 2 rucks as a VC and C, the third is switched to FLEX
Don’t like flex, they keep making the game too easy and it’s going to be another year of no variation in strategy or unique teams
So many questions with team building.
How many of Daniel, Philly, Macrae, Coleman, etc?
How to utiliize the flex?
Where does Flynn go? R2, R3, flex, not at all?
Will R0 players sting more this year?
Is starting several big MIDs dead?
I’m honestly stumped but for a first draft have:
DEF: Flanders, Sheezel, Holmes, Gibcus, Allan & Busslinger [El Hawli, Bice]
MID: Daicos, Brayshaw, Anderson, Richards, W. Ashcroft, Lalor, Smith & Draper [Payne, Said, Barrett]
RUC: Xerri & TDK [Flynn]
FWD: JHF, Moore, Smith, Lynch, Hewett & Gothard [Nicholls, Mentha]
FLX: L. Ashcroft
Great to be back though. Hope everyone’s been great. Will get into some writing soon.
Gidday all, great to be back.
Any thoughts on Sam Darcy getting R/F in the 1st DPPs updates?
Good to see ya, Willy.
Most of Darcy’s ruck work us outside of CBs. Get the F50s and when Tingles is off. Not enough.
Good to see ya Willy?
LOL
Thanks
First crack.
B: Flanders, Sinclair, Holmes, Stewart, Travaglia, Allan (El-Hawli, Reid)
C: Bont, Daicos, Oliver, W Ashcroft, J Smith, Draper, L Ashcroft, Smillie (Robertson, Rowston, Moraes)
R: Xerri, English (Dodson)
F: Hornet, Macrae, B Smith, Daniel, Powell-Pepper, Curtin (Kako, Hewett)
U: Phillipou
Lots of good rookies, a plethora of mid-pricer or underpriced options available, cash gen shouldn’t be a problem for us as much next year.
First shot
DEF // Sheezel, Sicily, Vlastuin, Mills, Coleman, Allan (El-Hawli, Trainor)
MID // Cripps, Green, Warner, Young, J. Graham, J. Smith, Draper, Smillie (Lindsay, Angove, Moraes)
RUCK // Darcy, O’Brien (Sims)
FWD // Horne-Francis, B. Smith, Daniel, Lynch, Curtin, Kako (Berry, Alger)
FLEX // Xerri
Only time will tell how many of these rookies are actually viable, which greatly changes things moving forward towards and through a season.
Can anybody please advise of websites that show players stats
like CBA,s , kickins, tackles etc.
Thanks
https://dfsaustralia.com/afl-cbas/
https://dfsaustralia.com/afl-kickins/
Tackles and other general stats you can just find on the AFL app/website.
First crack at it, rookies subject to change.
Def- Sheezel, J Clark, Holmes, Mills, Coleman, B Allen, El-Hawli, Leake.
Mid- Bont, Naicos, E Richards, W Day, J Smith, S Draper, L Ashcroft, A Sheldrick, C Edwards, H Charleson, J Delana.
Ruck- Xerri, Tdk, M Heath.
Fwd- Jhf, Macrea, Smith, Phillipou, Daniel, Hewett, Kako, Erasmus.
Flex- Flynn.
DEF Sheezel Sinclair Mills Coleman Gibcus Allen (Reid El-Hawli
MID Bont Butters Dawson Oliver Smith Ascroft Peatling Allen (Rookie)s
RK English Darcy (Sims)
FWD Kennady Macrae Poo Daniel Lynch Kato (Rookies)
FLEX Flynn
Mills and Coleman early byes but cannot ignore the Value.
Ascroft way underpriced, was the missing link for the lions.
Peatling – depends on Role but lots of rookies on the watch List
Darcy always a injury concern, but nicely priced and Flynn as back up.
Interested to see who gets the Houstan role at PA. Could be a cheaper on offer in DEF for us.???
Smith in the midfield to start allows Kennady at F1 whom i expect to play a big role in the Dogs midfield.
FWD Lines will all look the same. SPP and Martin very nicely priced if Lynch doesnt start.
I’m putting this in and printing it out only so I can look back at R1 and have a good laugh !!!
Sinclair Holmes Mills Schoenmaker Coleman Gibcus H Oliver/Z Reid
Bont Butters Oliver Parker Sanders J Smith S Draper Travagalia B Allan/M Reid/ElHawaii
Reckon this might be the year for several mid-pricers…Mills/Sanders/Parker/B Smith/Macrae/Bolton. Cant see any of these being played in the Magoos.
Gawn English A Reid
JHF Bolton Macrae B Smith Cadman Bauer Curtin/Kako
Flex….C Daniel
Looks like I mucked that up somehow adding the comment !!! Team is still correct
Excited for a new season. Coming off my best year so far, hoping to crack it into the top 1K this coming season
DEF – Flanders, Sheezel, Martin, Coleman, Schoenmaker, Allan (Bice, Z Reid)
MID – Bont, Butters, Oliver, Ashcroft, Peatling, O’Sullivan, L Ashcroft, Smillie (El Hawli, Hynes, Dattoli
RUC – Xerri, TDK (Uhr-Henry)
FWD – JHF, Macrae, Smith, Phillipou, Daniel, Hewitt (A Johnson, Armstrong)
FLEX – Lalor
Notes
DEF – Flanders a lock, Sheezel always starts the year off well (averages 121 between Rd 1-5). Coleman hopefully stays fit, Schoenmaker’s been tearing it up in the pre season, Allen will debut early. Bice averaged around 120 while playing for Werribee this year. Reid can hopefully have some better luck this year.
Still contemplating Gibcus, but his fitness in the last two years really scare me.
MID – Bont and Butters a lock, Oliver should come back to form this year, Ashcroft surely a breakthrough to premo this year. Peatling is the talk of the Crows pre season so far, looks to be playing a contested midfield role (tackles a fair bit too). Sullivan could end up being either Jagga Smith or Draper (gotta see how pre season goes). Levi and Smillie are rookie locks at this point. El Hawli is tearing it up at Windy Hill, Hynes and Dattoli are both decent chances to make their debuts in the first half of the season.
RUC – Xerri should be everyone’s first choice, especially with his tackling and CB numbers. TDK is coming into his prime age, should see him start to peak as a proper premo this year. Uhr Henry just for cheap ruck purposes
FWD – JHF is practically the “premo” lock. The only one that could change that is Jackson. Smith is a lock, Macrae and Daniel is a watch and see. Phillipou looks good (averaged just under 100 in his last 5 or 6 matches in 2024). If he’s permanently in that CB mid role, he’s a keeper. Hewett should get game time from the get go, Johnson and Armstrong both decent chances to debut first round too.
FLEX – Lalor the number one pick in a draft full of top pick potentials. Should be a consistent scoring rookie. Not picking a premo as a flex, as that’ll mean one less option for VC/C choice on the field.
Nodded so much while reading this.
Good stuff, WW.
Fell out of love with SC last year but I’m back.
Bench rookies obv subject to change.
First draft
Def Sheezel Sinclair NWM mills shoemaker sinn, (travalglia, Z.Reid)
Mid: Cripps, Trac, Jagga, Tsatas, Draper, Ashcroft, smillie, Lindsay (Kako, Allen, Erasmus)
Ruck: Gawn, Xerri, (simms R/F)
Forward. JHF, McRae, Bsmith, Pou, Helmet, Berry (Curtain, Barrat)
Flex: Tingles
Going 2 premo mids because too much Value there.
3 rucks are all Captain options and dont have to mess with a disappointing F6 R/F type.
Mostly avoiding opening round but think Mills/Smith are too much value to pass up
In terms of flex.
Optimal doesn’t matter until full premo. In which case it’s whoever averages more out of m9/R3/D7
Before then it just softens rookie roulette
Thoughts? So much value in the mids allowing to only have 5 rookies on field.
DEF: Sheezel, Sinclair, Mills, Coleman, Trevaglia, Saad // K.Smith, Bice
MID: A.Brayshaw, Trac, Day, Oliver, W.Ashcroft, Peatling, J.Smith, S.Draper // L.Ashcroft, Lindsay, Allan
RUCK: Xerri, TDK // Someone cheap
FWD: JHF, Macrae, Smith, Phillipou, Daniel, Hewett //Kako, Berry
FLEX: M.Flynn
Value in the mids worries me but also intrigues me, have played with day down to m.roberts and bumping brayshaw up, or down to cumming. Think Day could do 105+ though
Thoughts?
Having travalgia on field an Levi Ashcroft on bench feels like an error.
But otherwise looks good in general
Think that’s the right way to be going about it at this stage, Fraser. Yeah.
With you on the Brayshaw pick 100% too. One of my first.
One big piece of information that I think we need before we can pick our teams is what is happening in the bye rounds.
Last year in the early rounds it was still best 22 even when 2 teams had a bye. In the actual bye rounds themselves when only 2 teams had the bye, it was best 18! (Scratches head!). Then during the byes that 4 teams a the bye and 6 teams on the bye, it was best 18.
This year, in the early byes it’s 2 teams, 4 teams and 2 teams in rds 2-4. In our bye rounds it’s 4,4,2 and 4.
I am a bit less worried about planning for the major byes, but those early byes concern me. If it is best 22 in round 3, then it really makes it hard to pick too many players from those 4 sides. At the moment I am seeing teams with both Ashcrofts, Coleman, Naicos, Holmes, BSmith and Mills. How to navigate R3? Best 18, maybe ok., but still feels diabolical. But what if it is best 20 or best 22? There goes your season right there. There is still the question of how many Rd0 players you should start with anyway when some of them have 2 byes before others have any byes.
I know it’s just a bit of fun to play at this time, but really feeling like we need to know best what in all the bye rounds – especially the early ones.
I would not be surprised if the byes where 4 teams have the bye are best 20. There used to be 6 teams on the bye when it was best 18. Now there is 4 on the bye and we have a flex. If that’s the case, I expect best 22 when only 2 teams are on the bye.
Anyway, all speculation right now. But I just can’t bring myself to start picking a team until this important feature is explained.
Just saw on AFL Fantasy they are doing best 18 on all bye rounds, whether 2 teams are in the bye or 4. In the early byes still only 2 picks but the midseason byes it’s 3. Don’t know whether SC will follow fantasy or not. Worth noting that fantasy doesn’t have the flex.
I am fairly sure each and every bye round was best 18 in Supercoach last year.
10 minutes work done! Easy!
D – Flanders/MIlls/Koleman/MIlera/Travaglia/Allan – El-Hawli/Rookie
M – Bont/LDU/Walsh/Oliver/W.Ashcroft/L.Ashcroft/E.Hewett/J.Smith -Smilie/Lyndsay/Rookie
R – Xerri/Grundy – Sims
F – JHF/Curnow/Macrae/Phillipou/Daniel/Lynch/ – Rookie *2
FLEX – TDK.
Plenty of mid-pricers I can dump for playing rookies to fill to the empty places on the bench.
Hey PC, not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Maybe it’s the Grundy pick .. he’s on my ‘Never Again’ list. I really like the idea of having a Premo (fallen or emerging) as the Flex option. With you there. Have a great Christmas. Cheers
Flanders-Sheezel-McKercher
Mills-Coleman – rookie
Bont-Butters-Neale-Cerra
Rookie-Rookie-Rookie-Rookie
Xerri-Flyn
JHF-Jackson-Macdonald
Darling-Humphrey-Lynch
Flex Rookie
Is there anywhere we can print out a list of player prices ?
Start up
DEF:Flanders Nobel Mills Schoenmaker Coleman B. Allan Z.Reid Bice
Mid Gulden E.Richards Oliver W. Ashcroft Peatling B.Smith L.Ashcroft E.Allan O’Sullivan Travaglia El-Hawli
Ruck Xerri Cameron Heath
For Horne-Francis L.Baker Daniel Phillipou Curtin Lynch Kako A. Johnson
Flexi L. Jackson
ITB $42,900
DEF: Sheez, Sinclair, McKercher, Mills, Coleman, El-Hawli (Gibcus, Reid)
MID: Bont, Daicos, Merrett, Jagga, Draper, Langford, X.Lindsay, Allan (Smillie, Sheldrick, Hewett)
RUC: Xerri, TDK (Livingstone)
FWD: JHF, Macrae, Smith, Phillipou, Daniel, Curtin (Powell-Pepper, Moir)
FLEX: Flynn (WCE Ruck)
ITB: $86,000. Going to try and follow the rule of not paying above $600k on anyone that isn’t Uber-Premo, I love Sheezel though and he’s right at that status I think, even with the move to midfield (look at his 2024 stats from rd10 on). Merrett over Butters currently as I think the Bombers have a lot of early round games, so a good VC option (but this could easily change when I pay proper attention in the new year, look at fixtures etc). Daicos is elite, but not wedded to him. Didn’t start with Bont last season, won’t make that mistake again!
The main option I’m not convinced by is Flanders. Expensive, and the Suns brought in Rioli & Noble, who in theory provide other options rather than giving Flanders the ball all the time. He may come in, but wouldn’t be surprised if I pick him up much cheaper in season. Lots will change between now and the start of the season!
Hey, Ash.
I’d offer a bit of a counter on Flanders.
First, the Suns’ fixture.
Eagles, Dees, Crows, Roos, Tigers, Swans.
They play all of last year’s bottom four within five games lol.
As for his role, yeah Noble and Rioli come in but Flanders down back was more of a spitfire, repelling HB; rushes up to the contest as soon as the ball’s bounced as that first up stoppage player. Every team has a HB line. Noble and Rioli don’t necessarily scare me.
He also played MID R16-21 as well as a few stints early. Could see him back there, with maybe Miller rotating out more (for better or worse). That’d be his future rather than HB, you’d think.
Think Flanders is in the Daicos/Sheezel bracket where role doesn’t matter that much.
Went from 88.4 to 119.0 last year and capped it off with a 161.
For me, he’s in. Anderson as well.
Love the rest of the team. Nicely filled out DEF & FWD lines.
Thanks GD, I understand your points and think they are really good ones. Ultimately if he looks good in pre-season it’ll be hard for me not to start him and it depends where the rookies are.
Anderson I like, but he’s very inconsistent. But maybe those fixtures mean he’s worth the risk, if he gets up to $650k or so after those fixtures I’d be tempted to trade him down to a fallen premo and bank some cash.
Have a great Christmas mate, looking forward to season 2025.
Yeah, Anderson I know is a bum. Sort of a bet on fixture but not one I’m as a wedded to as Flanders.
You have a good one too, habib.
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Why the TDs for so many comments..TD Bandit perhaps 😉
Probably cos this is a Supercoach’s site… not Fantasy.
After nearly a week of tinkering, this is the structure I’ve settled on:
DEF
Sheezel, Sinclair, Coleman
Travaglia, Allan, El-Hawli
(Leake, Busslinger)
MID
Bontempelli, Butters
Serong, Davies-Uniacke, Petracca
O’Sullivan, Jagga, Draper
(Langford, Smillie, Reid)
RUC
Gawn, Xerri
(Sims)
FWD
Horne-Francis, Bazlenka, Phillipou
Daniel, Hewett, Erasmus
(Moir, Jefferson)
FLEX
L. Ashcroft
60K ITB
Pretty traditional guns and rookies with the exception of the forward line (though I expect Pou and Daniel to be keepers). I decided to focus in on all the premiums with the best byes to start. Not sure I trust in Macrae or Parker returning to past form just yet, and Baker tempts me but he’s also a wait and see.
The backline feels pretty vanilla in terms of premos, every man and their dog has the Sheezel and Sinclair combo. Mills is the one I’d really like to squeeze in at the expense of Coleman, just need to find the cash.
In the mids I’ve tried to go for guys who I all believe can comfortably push 115+ in average. I’m very bullish on LDU and Trac in particular.
I’m happy to pay up in the rucks, as I feelGawn and Xerri are the two safest selections, and the flex allows for the addition of whoever raises their hand as the season unfolds.
Yeah, that’s a very GnR team is this meta.
I quite like it though, Robbie. Nice.
Can’t get on board Macrae either.
LDU interesting. Can see upside with a pure pre-season.
Just think the age, role and fact he’s entering a contract year all line up pretty perfectly for LDU. Also showed he can put together 23 matches and stay in the park last year.
Only real worry is he seems to beat up on bad teams and gets his scoring capped against better sides, although as the Kangas improve you’d think that becomes less of an issue.
I think this season represents a really interesting battle between GNR and mid priced teams. I agree that this is pure GNR team and I accept that despite their price that Smith Philippou and Daniel are likely to be premium. So, we have 3 really low cost premiums, but it would seem that most likely the best you can get to a is a 13-18 structure on GNR. Are there 18 rookies? Right now it does appear that way, but 18 is a lot. If memory serves, in the golden years of GNR you could get to 14-16 or possibly 15-15. The change in rookie start price has had a real impact.
How does a 13-18 structure score against say a 10-6-15 structure? Normally the expectation is that mid price out scores GNR early, but GNR finishes better. If SC follows Fantasy and has best 18 in RDs2-3-4, then I think GNR will score closer to mid price in those rounds., because you are carrying less rookie scores.
What I can’t decide is whether the increase in the number of trades favors GNR or mid price. I lean slightly toward mid price because nowadays people are trading more aggressively and not waiting for full value from their rookies.
With the resetting of prices to accommodate 31, there was an across the board 3% reduction. the gap between rookie priced players and premiums reduced- is that an argument to say this favors GNR? Possibly.
If pure GNR has missed out against “value” selections in the past few years, this might be the year that the GNR empire strikes back.
Any idea as yet as to the amount of trades we will grt this year or when thia will come out ?
I don’t think we will know until the game opens. Based on last year, maybe around Australia Day?
Hi James, I’m told it’s 40 trades this year.. I was stunned too..