457 thoughts on “Trade Talk – Rd3”

  1. Crunch time.

    Out; Neale & Cripps
    In; Macrae & Dusty

    Tu or Td??? Just worried Neale will come good but either way he will drop a heap. Thoughts please? Appreciated!

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    1. Neale underdone Round 1 and tagged like a vice in Round 2, both losses. He’ll come good, still Top 8. It’s a hold from me.

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      1. However he will drop heaps and my thinking behind it is he will come good. However the question is when? If he scores sub 100 for the 3rd week running, we are going to dig ourselves into a major major hole. I’m thinking act now and move him to macrae whilst we can. Also to mention, macrae does play north this week. Will be a monster score on the cards.

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        1. He’s already on to lose 150k. You can easily trade him down to someone who is generating cash.

          Or with a double trade, offloading an underperforming rookie or midpricer turn two him into two premos, or a premo and a booming midpricer or premo rookie like Tex, Jiath, Campbell or similar..

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          1. Just don’t think cash fluctuation is that important a consideration with premos if you’ve already started them? Issue with Neale for owners right now, myself included, is scoring – not so much price.

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            1. Usually I would agree, however as I said.. Neale will come good BUT the question is when??? I don’t tend to trade out under performing premos, but Neale is more than that. Neale is supposed to be a rolls reus and the temptation of being able to cash in on him at such a large price still and be able to potentially pick him up when we know he’s come good and at a huge discount, might just be too tough to resist. I think Neale goes.

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              1. If you didn’t have Neale in your team. Would you be eyeing to get him into your team when his price bottoms out? If yes, then keep him.

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                1. Agree, however what if that price is much lower than we expect?! My concern is he is still under done and might continue to post sub 100 scores. On top of that, sides might see Friday as the blueprint to stop him. Am I being silly?

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                2. “Bottoming out” in price assumes that his form has recovered.

                  This will happen at some point. The only questions are when, how many points do you bleed now, and how much money do you lose before then.

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                  1. A 700k+ price point is only viable for a player when you can rely on them for VC/C duties week in, week out. If there are any doubts on Neale returning to form soon, I think he has to go. For mine, there are significant doubts based on his R1&2 output, the example that O’Connor set for tagging and the potential that changes to the rules have negatively influenced his game.

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            2. totally agree in the concept GD.

              We talk about trading a player when they make $150K as a benchmark … does the reverse apply as well? – surley Neale is going to lose around $200K or more over the next two weeks?

              Now, the problem of course is trades. … we have a very limited number … so this is a trade that people would make, but need to bear in mind that they may not have enough trades at the end of the year for correctional, or to get onto a player that is a must have … it’s a risk V reward option …

              and as HH says above, if in doing the trade it gets you two premos …. well …

              Risky move, but not wrong. It’s a gamble, as is a large part of this caper!!

              For me, I didn’t take Warner or Campbell at the start – got sucked into Dow and (I blame Wighty) Jones … so I think they are my must trades this week … otherwise, dare I say it, I really think I would consider ditching Neale.

              The other factor is that on the shows last night / today, some of the well respected past players were all saying :
              1. they don’t know why teams haven’t done this consistently in the past
              2. that Cats normally don’t tag and it was a real surprise to see O’Çonnor take that role … and that by doing it, the think the rest of the teams will have seen it and now do it.

              Neale has shown he can’t handle the tag … it might just be the start of a major fall …

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              1. Neale Would be 2 trades if you want to trade him back in, so needs to drop more like 300k for it to be worth it IMO

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              2. Exactly. If you will trade to make a $150k profit it is equally valid to do so to avoid a $150k loss.

                Especially if the same trade that lets you avoid that loss also guarantees you a high profit (thanks to the bubble). Effectively you can choose to make a single trade that guarantees you $300k or more.

                Right now, Neale is guaranteed over a $150k+ loss. His breakeven is -271 and an estimated loss of $76k.

                Even if he punches out around 150 next week (highly unlikely) he’s still on for another $50k-$60k loss and a 200+ breakeven (someone will surely do the exact numbers or we can wait on Footywire to update theirs).

                If he punches a second 150 out the next week he’s still facing another big loss, probably another $20k or $30k, because he’s still priced to average what, 128 then and just averaging 113?

                Of course if he pulled out 2 x 150 scores you wouldn’t care.
                That’s the principle of jumping in when a fallen premium has bottomed out.

                But there’s no sign that he’s on track to do, and even if he was, his last two games against Collingwood are 91 and 113, so a 150 score next week looks very unlikely even if he was fully fit.

                A fully fit Neale wouldn’t be a lino rather than a lion against Mark O’Connor either.

                The slide will continue for weeks yet. Sure it will stabilize, eventually, once he’s match fit. But he’s gonna be well under $600k before it does.

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                1. Hi HH. Was trying to figure out what Neale’s price drop really will look like if he comes good over the next 2-3 weeks. His 1st 70 will only stay in his rolling average for one week, right? Therefore if his scoring comes good (120-130) over the next 3 weeks, I reckon his price bottoms out at around 650k, after only 2 price drops. Loss of only 90k or so.

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                  1. He’s got a poor record against Collingwood and they have Levi who will be all over him.

                    Yes, Collingwood look a bit ordinary so far this year, but the chances of him breaking out with a 150 score (let alone a 271) to correct his average don’t look great.

                    His scoring history against Collingwood is as follows.

                    113 at the Gabba (Covidball)
                    91 at the Gabba
                    140 at Optus (Freo)
                    104 MCG (Freo)

                    So, he’s got an average, when playing AT HOME at the Gabba of 102. Away from home in Melbourne his last game was 104, but in a completely different team.

                    So it’s pretty hard to figure out, but in the data we have, he doesn’t play well against Collingwood, they have a known tagger, their coach has come out and said they’ll look at tagging him, and he has barely averaged 110 despite 3 home games.

                    I’ll dodge answering the question because…
                    ***** WARNING ***** THIS POSTER DOES NOT OWN LACHIE NEALE *****

                    But you can now look at this data and decide for yourself.

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    2. I paid for his durability and ceiling. He only needs a 170 and is back. While the spud you trade in (by comparison) will probably get injured. He’s set and forget. Bont did this last season.

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    3. Neale reminds me of Bont last year, everyone traded and he ended up one of the better premium mids of the season in the end, firm hold from me

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    1. Dusty has just played his two historically easiest sides.

      It’s possible he’s better, stronger, fitter this year than previous. or the longer quarters are benefitting him more than other players.

      It’s a risk that I wouldn’t take, given the huge cash gains available on other players.

      Round 3 is usually about cash generation and corrective trades. But if you’re offloading a premo going bad it makes sense to purchase one who has shown something this season and is relatively reliable.

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  2. Cripps > Brayshaw
    Caldwell > ???

    TU: Tex Walker
    TD: Logan McDonald

    Comment: if you think bailing on Cripps is me being too hasty.

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    1. Tex is most likely the highest scoring player in the comp at this point and under $300k.

      He looked good too. Although he probably got 4 of his goals against sydney from frees he did a lot to earn them with run and chase.

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    2. Hey, Jov.

      Love the Brayshaw pick.

      Tex honestly might also be a good move. His next month and half is Suns, Roos, Dockers, Hawks, Giants and then Port in the Showdown. Will probably kick bags in a few of those and then fire up against Port even though they’ll likely lose.

      Could be a sage move.

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        1. I’m going Daniher-Walker myself, only ever saw Daniher as a quick cash grab that needed a big score to get the cash flowing and he hasnt performed anywhere near that level, feels obvious to make the change.

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      1. Tex is irresistible just for the cash, and not expensive….priced at 55 ppg. Caldwell to Tex for me.

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      1. I’ve been telling myself this for a long time. I was at the game on Thurs and it looked dire CBA wise. I just need consistency as my team is struggling early on.

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    3. Yep, Tex in, Bergman out. He should kick a few with the opposition coming up. At his price, IMO if you have an underperforming player around the same price, it’s a no brainer for me. Btw, I’m so happy I don’t have neil. I feel sorry for anyone that has him. If I did, I would trade him out and get a rookie then pick him up if he starts performing. I know he was heavily tagged and I know it would be using 2 trades but I think it’s worth it. I always seem to have a few trades left at the end of the comp so I would personally trade him

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  3. Thoughts on Jones -> McDonald?

    Originally was fine for Jones to be a slow burn at D7 but might be too slow a burn lol, whereas McDonald looks the goods. I know he’s reliant on goals, but the Swans are hot and 88 and 68 has him well set up to make some coin.

    Have 29 trades rn.

    T.U: Good thinking, 99.

    T.D: Not worth a trade.

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    1. Hey GD – As long as you have all the other viable fwd rookies, i.e. Rowe, Campbell, Warner, Brockman, then I say go for it.

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      1. Evening, Chillo.

        Yeah, got all of them. Would just never want Jones on field and McDonald looks great. Got 72k handy from Danger -> Dusty last week.

        Also, not to jump the gun, but saw your score this round. Expecting an improvement on already beastly rank, gw!

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        1. Thanks, I hope you’re right. It’s always hard to tell what a ‘good’ score is in the early rounds.

          I do need a poll on what to do with Cripps this week – I reckon I’m not the only one.

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          1. Yep Chillo, as it stands I can go Cripps -> Dusty/Ridley and get Jordan (Only rookie I need) and its more than tempting

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          2. I’m pondering this same question Chillo .
            Thinking of holding 1 more week but tempted to go to Macrae .

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    2. Don’t mind that move GB as well unless you possibly have funds for Tex .

      Is Jordon and Dusty Martin a must have ?
      Have all other rookies and need to replace Caldwell and can replace an underperforming rookie

      Have funds to

      T/u Martin / Jordon
      T/d Butters and T walker

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      1. Evening, Paul.

        Nah, don’t have the coin for Tex.

        As for your trades, both TU and TD are ultra-solid options. Can’t fault either, purely preference – maybe have a look at fixtures and see what you can infer?

        Good luck.

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  4. Gotta get rid of caldwell, cant bring myself to trade in tex, is Logan mcdonald the best option? (i can dpp)

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  5. I’m pretty lucky that I’ve got 342k spare

    What’s the biggest priority

    TU S.Martin in ruck (Flynn R3) up to a better ruck

    TD Taranto (M5) to a premium mid

    Other trade will be a rookie correction

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    1. Hold Taranto. Giants got smashed today in all areas, and he still managed to get a fair chunk of the ball. Shame he didn’t score more. He will bounce back. At 450k he will average enough to become our m8 no doubt.

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        1. Agree, Trapanto’s a bust.

          Too many cooks in a declining GWS midfield, terrible DE (57% R1, 60% R2) and same amount of clangers as clearances today lol.

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  6. What I’m thinking this week is the following.
    The best rookie I’m missing is Warner so;
    Trade 1: via Campbell DPP
    Out – Green (underperforming mid-price mistake)
    In – Warner

    2nd trade is a cash grab.
    Hunter doesn’t look like he’s up to it and Marshall will be back soon although he’s a bottom price ruck who doesn’t need to score huge to make money.
    Fullarton is also a slow burn but will he have a greater opportunity now that Big O is injured? So…

    Trade 2: bring in Tex…trade out either
    T/U: Hunter (Treacy to R3 via DPP)
    T/D: Fullarton

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    1. Yep. Spot on, Stewy.

      Marshall to return and they won’t drop McKernan so Hunter can play forward, whereas Fullarton to get a proper ruck gig if McInerney is out.

      Sack Hunter and keep Fullarton provided teamsheets and announcements go as aforementioned.

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    2. Trade 1 makes sense.
      Trade 2 via Hunter is my preference.

      Fullarton might get more opportunity with McInerney injured but more likely they bring in a proper ruck alternative. He just looks outclassed as a ruck.

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  7. First trade is ROB to Grundy – Can’t afford to lose 80 points every week
    2nd trade is a head scratch.

    TU – Gaff – Hes gotta go
    TD – Higgins – Small forward not performing

    I also have Caldwell but he can sit on my bench until next week. Is James Jordon from the dee’s a must have? If I go Gaff to Jordon I should be able to go Caldwell to Mcrae Next week. I’m totally lost the plot this year, 95k after round 1, hopefully go up a bit scoring 2k this week

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  8. Have held Luke Mcdonald for 2 weeks as missed his late out last week.
    Worth trading to Jayden Short, looks a top 6 DEF, or hold Mcdonald another 1/2 weeks.
    TU: trade to short
    TD: hold
    Cheers lads/lasses

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    1. Short looks good but isn’t on for a big cash gain

      Can you Ridley or are you willing to risk Houston?

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  9. Thoughts on Nick hind?
    Got the ton this week and playing a safe HB role
    Need to replace Caldwell and I’m thinking he’s the option.

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  10. Just the one trade for me as I’m liking where my team is positioned.

    Jones > Warner.

    Can rotate Rowe/Warner/Bergman for that F6 spot. Cheers

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  11. Looks like Duggan is a bust so he has to go.

    I am thinking….

    Duggan to Lukoscious
    Rookie like Kosi, Sharp or Downie to Atkins

    T/up Good idea

    T/Dwn Bad idea

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  12. Is this a good idea – I have 29 trades left:

    Tom Phillips and Harrison Jones out
    Tex Walker and Jarman Impey in

    I have all the must have rookies and my premo structure is 4, 6 (incl Taranto), Gawn+Flynn and Dunkley upfront – above would mean Tex is F2 and Ziebell is F3

    TU : do it, chase the cash
    TD : silly move, Phillips will come good and you’re just wasting trades

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    1. Phillips had 24 touches today, hawks didn’t have much structure ahead of the ball and his kicking was shocking. Keeping in mind they played arguably the best side in the comp. I will be holding Phillips

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  13. T/U: Neale & Dow to Ridley (via DPP) & Cerra
    T/D : Neale & Dow to Butters (via DPP) & Ridley

    Thanks Coaches

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  14. Dow and jones out for berry and tex is my initial thought.

    Cripps to brayshaw also an idea at this stage

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  15. No real carnage for me this week after having to make the Danger & Rowell double last week. 58K in the bank so I’ll turn Cockatoo into Jordon and then probably downgrade to Cockatoo later in the season if he gets a run at it for a couple of weeks.

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  16. IMO re: Neale

    SCTTT trade ‘im, it’s a points scoring league, not a standard league (by the way there is a ring in at no. 1)

    Other leagues Hold, especially since playing Collingwood, who will tag him?

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    1. The ring in originally applied but didn’t join a league when I offered him a spot?? Didn’t realise he was there tonight as I did the scores from match day. He’s now removed.

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  17. Getting rid of Dow for Jordon

    Also getting rid of Caldwell for obvious reasons, but not sure who to bring in (excluding Tex Walker, don’t trust him one bit)

    EDIT: I have $461k available after making the Dow > Jordon trade and Caldwell out

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  18. Desperately wanting to sell stocks in this GWS midfield which means Green and possibly Bruhn have to go. Also need to deal with Draper. 28 trades left.

    Thinking of going Green to Tex (over Warner) via DPP – Crom fixtures looking more tastier compared to the Swans. Then a sideways swap of Bruhn to Jordon who is the other must-have rookie I’m missing.

    TU: Yes, to the moon we go
    TD: Wasting trades, address other issues first.

    Cheers ladies and gents xx

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  19. R3 trades / correctional

    T/U
    Dow ( ave 57.5 > Impey ( ave 93.5
    Fullarton ( ave 36.5 > Jordon ( ave 80 )
    $10k in the bank

    T/D
    Dow ( ave 57.5 ) > Jordan ( ave 80 )
    Taranto ( ave 87 ) > Butters ( ave 130.5 )
    $76,200 in the bank

    Cheers Catta

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    1. I’m of a mind to wear Fullarton longer and use Treacy to correct him in a few weeks. But it’s hard when there is no one else you really want to let go.

      How different from 2018 and 2019 to see no rookies dropped yet.

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      1. Agreed with the rookies, HH

        BYW – I’m planning on Flynn < Treacy R6

        With that banked cash go Ziebell < Marshall pending on his return!

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    2. Would probably keep Fullarton if OMac is ruled out, scored alot better once he went into the Ruck.
      Dow-Impey and maybe hold the 2nd?

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  20. Tossing up a few things.

    I’m actually sitting reasonably well but Dow and Hunter are disturbing me even though they’re still going to gain money.

    The obvious option would be leave well enough alone.

    First option (t/u) is Hunter – Jordan via Fullarton DPP.

    The second option (t/d) is to go Dow -> Jiath via dpp Clark. Really like this young kid and Dow is earning 102k scores.

    I cannot do both, nor can I get Tex. 🙁

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    1. Other option:

      Dow straight to Jordan (t/u) and assume that Hunter or Fullerton gets sorted out when Treacy is on the bubble.

      No trades. (t/d)

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    2. What about Dow -> Jordon?

      May as well leave Hunter at R3 now, and I don’t think Jiath is going to make enough cash to be worth two trades.

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          1. Another possibility is both Dow and Daniher out and Tex and Jordan in. (T/u)

            Just Jordan for Dow (T/d)

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    3. HH it is a luxury trade. Give Dow some time. I know he is hitting your nerves. He still has a BE of 6. Is that worth a trade? I know you started by saying that…

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      1. The 6 breakeven is ok… but the projections going forward on this form are not.

        He’s projected on that 6 breakeven to be only scoring around 50k cash growth in 3 weeks and tapping out well below 100k gain.

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  21. T/U: Dow and Jones to Jordon and Impey (leaving not much $)

    T/D: Phillips and Jones to Jordon and Impey (banking $220,000)

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  22. The Dow experiment doesn’t seem to be working out, and i missed out on Warner so i think that’s an easy trade for me.

    Question is, should i trade Cripps to Dusty? and i can swing him into the forward line at a later date.

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    1. Taranto scored a ton last week, BE of 92 should score him some more time in your team to get more data.

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  23. Which way would you go?

    TU Neale and H Sharp -> Lloyd and Warner

    TD Cripps and Dow -> Ridley and Warner

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  24. I had high hopes for Tom Phillips at the start of the season but I’m gonna use only one trade this week and downgrade him to Impey as he seems like a much more consistent scorer and will make me much more cash.

    Also any thoughts on trading Taranto to Cerra?

    Cheers coaches

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  25. T/U – Fyfe > Cerra
    Higgins > Dunkley

    T/D – Fyfe > Oliver
    Higgins > Ziebell or Tex

    Chasing overall points. Have all good rookies except Jordon. Fyfe forward isnt great and the concussion doesnt help at all

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    1. Edit: Instead of the Dow trade to Jordon I was thinking maybe Taranto to Cerra instead?

      TU: Yep
      TD: Nope

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    2. Keep Phillips. Will come good once the Hawks get their forward line in check, especially with Gunston, Wingard and Lewis to come in.

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  26. Trying to avoid rash decisions like trading out Neale, but if Brisbane vs Collingwood is postponed I’ll probably do it.

    Otherwise, I’m thinking either Sharp to Jordon, Dow to Jordon, or Dow & Taranto to Jordon & one of Brayshaw/Walsh/Ridley/Butters/Dusty.

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  27. Really liked Dangerfield to Brayshaw this week. Problem is what to do now.

    Need 1 rookie correction to James Jordon. Also pondering whether to bring in one of Logan McDonald, Jarman Impey or Isaac Cumming.

    Most likely sticking fat with Lachie Neale. I feel like Brisbane’s fortunes are tied to his and Fagan will be doing everything he can to crack him back into form.

    Most likely trade out options for me are Dom Tyson and Paddy Doh (not a typo).

    Trade 1: Dom Tyson to James Jordon
    Trade 2:

    TU: Paddy Doh to Jarman Impey
    TD: Paddy Doh to Isaac Cumming
    Comment: Logan McDonald or Hold Paddy Doh

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  28. Only want to bring one of these in;

    TU: Jordon
    TD: Warner

    Warner seems to have the better JS, jordon better cash gen if he stays on the park.
    Thoughts?

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  29. What do we say about moving Tom Green (GWS) to a performing player in the same price bracket such as Atkins, Clark?

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    1. 30 would be ideal however if you’ve traded both weeks and have 26 you should be prepared to hold most of your trades until the byes, assuming you dont have to cover injuries.

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      1. Big Bob, I disagree that you need to wait until the byes to trade – you’ll be behind by at least 1 or 2 upgrades if you wait that long.

        Broski, I think most coaches end up using 2 or 3 trades as corrections over the first 2-3 weeks of the season. If you’ve had injuries or suspensions (e.g., Rowell, Danger), those are out of your hands, so you *may* end up using more.

        One thing to keep in mind is you can’t have all the best rookies / break-out players. It’s tempting to grab someone who’s off to a flyer, but if you try to catch all of them, then later in the season, you’ll end up without cover or you won’t be able to upgrade your whole team.

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    1. I would.

      You could wait a week as his BE should still be ok ,with his first round 107 still in his price cycle.

      My reasons are…

      I owned him at the end of last year and it was torture watching him rack up good numbers but butcher the ball.
      His DE is shocking and is the main thing holding him back. This is the reason they keep moving him forward as thats where he does the least damage.
      His 107 in R1 was in terrible conditions. I think they had the most stoppages in that game so far this year. In this same game, 1st game ruck Flynn scored 140.

      Trapanto had..

      19 K
      7 HB
      3 M
      2 T
      1 G
      2 B

      For “only” 107 SC points. I think his DE was 57%

      Last week he scored 67 from..

      23 touches ( 13 kicks) 2 marks and 6 tackles.

      He can find the ball, Its just half the time he gifts it back to the opposition.

      I tried to let everyone know he was a trap.
      Somehow group think had taken hold and no one ( except Gunboat ) was willing to listen.

      Without Whitfield , GWS’s midfield look pedestrian.
      The way the game is being played they will get found out by many faster sides.

      I just can’t see Taranto being a top 20 mid by years end. let alone a solid M8. Unless he can somehow learn to kick in the next week or two.

      This may get some T/D’s as some folks seem bullish on him somehow becoming a keeper. I just say, check his stats for his last 10-12 games.

      Numbers don’t lie.

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        1. Sorry for the rant..

          Its just frustrating that folks still believe he will come good.

          Thanks for having my back 😉

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          1. Ok folks ..

            I’m thinking of something a little left field.

            I’ve had Highmore at D7 and think he’s solid enough for D6.
            This means I don’t really need both J Clark and H Young.

            Dow to Jordan leaves $221K

            I would much prefer to keep Young than Clark. Trading out Clark only gives me $460K ( there’s no one I really like at this price. I went Rowell to Heeney last week )

            But I can go Young to Cerra giving me an extra keeper on field.

            So should I pull the trigger ?

            T/U Do it , Cerra looks good enough for M8

            T/D Keep Young and Clark and look to get Tex- Impey

            Thanks folks.

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      1. Agree with you FT.

        Taranto much better suited to Fantasy cause he gets his hands on it but butchers it most of time.

        What do you think of Phillips? He’s appearing to be another Trapanto for mine and I don’t see how his game improves if/when the Hawks forwards come back in.

        I want to trade them both out this week and grab a rising premo (Brayshaw) and a cash cow (Tex).

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        1. Cheers Ninja.

          I really like Brayshaw and am warming to Tex.

          I don’t know enough about Phillips, I feel The Pies were a top 4 side the year he averaged 90 odd.

          With Cousins and Wingard still to return, I’m not sure he can get back to that at The Hawks this year.

          With news Cripps is carrying an injury, I may end up going Tex this week and swap Cripps for Cerra next week.

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  30. Is it worth getting rid of Howe and Taranto to get in Bowes and Cerra? Both their money will go up and I’ll have 40k left over
    TU Yep solid idea go champ!
    TD Not worth it pal
    Cheers and good luck to all

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  31. I hate sideways trading but thinking about the potential points loss…

    Tu Neal & Heppel for Macrae & Cerra
    Td hold on to both

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  32. Plan on holding Neale and have all the good rookies. Issue is what to do about NCox in DEF though?

    TU – trade to Impey via DPP
    TD – trade to LYoung
    Comment – just hold, not worth burning a trade

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  33. So last week’s trades of Danger/Rowell to Dusty/Brayshaw worked a treat….
    The only rookie I’m short of is Warner so thinking of:
    Dow -> Warner.
    I’m also thinking of off-loading Cripps as he’s not looking good at all…..
    Do I?
    TU: Cripps -> Walsh/Cerra
    TD: Sit tight, he’ll be right!

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  34. have meek unfortunately

    TU trade meek for flynn for better js and cash production
    TD keep meek and hope his js is good

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  35. Thinking about adjusting a few underperformers. Neale, Gaff and Tyson.

    Have over $220K in the kitty and can turn Gaff and Tyson into Dusty & Brayshaw. Neale might drop a bit but will still likely end the year in the top 8 mids so holding there. currently 29 trades left.

    TU: Trade on son
    TD: Hold your fire
    Comments for suggestions (duh!)

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  36. I posted earlier about chasing cash by trading Phillips and H Jones to Tex and Impey – this got a lot of TD so am trying again!

    I had high hopes for Phillips and he just hasn’t done enough for me. My current bench is H Jones and A Scott w Rowe on field so these trades allow me to field Tex + Impey as opposed to Phillips + Rowe plus I should make $150k minimum.

    Other option I have is Phillips to Tex and Taranto to Brayshaw.

    $30k left in the bank for either option.

    TU: Phillips to Tex , Taranto to Brayshaw
    TD: Phillips to Tex, H Jones to Impey

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    1. Thanks for the TU/TD all.

      Despite my better judgement, I’m going to keep Taranto (for now) and go with the TD but only because I’m certain Tex and Impey will score more than Phillips and Rowe (who I can bench once H Jones heads for the exit door) whereas I’m not certain Brayshaw and Tex will score more than Taranto and Phillips (plus the $$$ are pretty juicy too).

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    1. I’m pretty confident he’ll be top 15, which is sufficient (the difference from top-8 to top-15 is usually about 5 points per game, and it is highly unlikely you’ll get all top-8 midfielders).

      Midfielders (no MPP) I’m reasonably certain will finish top-8:
      Macrae / Oliver / Mitchell / Bontempelli / Neale

      Others that I’m a bit less confident about:
      Brayshaw / Boak / Steele

      Potential top-8 (if one of the above drops off or gets injured):
      Merrett / Cerra / Walsh / Lyons

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  37. have neale

    TU trade for clarry
    TD keep

    i am trading meek for flynn so consider me using my 3rd trade already (traded out rowell last week)

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  38. I feel I have all the good rookies so I was looking at some minor corrective trades.
    Dow > Impey
    Hunter > Meek

    TU – Do both
    TD – Hold trades

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  39. Corrective cash trade:

    Phillips to Impey
    A. Fyfe to Berry

    Leaves me 280000 to upgrade Fantasia to Ridley in a few weeks

    TU yes
    TD no

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  40. Thinking the following trades,

    Option 1 – Clark & Dow – Who are both only predicted to make a combined $70K over the next 2 rounds based on projections for Tex & Jordan + $103K banked to upgrade Cripps if he spuds it again this week! (Miss out on Campbell as a decent rookie, have the rest)

    Option 2 – Harry Jones/Dow – Campbell & Jordan + $94K! (Miss out on Tex, still cash banked to upgrade Cripps if he spuds it)

    TU: Tex & Jordan + $103K banked (Predicted approx $250k over the next 2 rounds, Tex possible F6/F7 keeper based on current form)

    TD: Jordan & Campbell + $94K banked

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  41. J. Clark to Tex.

    I know it’s a bit sideways but Tex has a weak draw for the next 4 rounds and the cash gen/points over the next few weeks should justify the trade. Plus Clark has iffy job security.

    Wanted to go Dow to Tex but im 20k short and only want to use the 1 trade

    TU: Yes
    TD: No

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  42. Already used two trades on Danger and Rowell last week and will have to trade Caldwell this week, so unsure about this move which would mean 4 trades in two rounds.

    T/U: Hold Hunter and save the trade
    T/D: Trade Hunter to Flynn

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  43. Already burnt two trades on Danger and Rowell so its annoying to have to get rid of Caldwell aswell who was looking decent, but who should i get in for him

    T/U: Berry (ADEL)
    T/D: Impey

    Comment: Tex Walker

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  44. TU:
    Dow to Tex
    Duggan to Ridley
    $60k left and pass on Jordon. Plenty of rookies for cash gen already

    Or

    TD:
    Dow to Tex
    Jones to Jordon
    Leave $159k to upgrade Duggan later if he sucks still

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  45. I’ve done dow to walker and O Henry to impey. now hope to stop trading for a couple of weeks. Have gulden, jordan, warner, campbell, powell etc already – so just a wait and see game now 🙂

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  46. Used one trade last week for Rowell, is it wise to use two sideways trades to snag key rookies? Already got majority of the big rooks, thinking of trading Bruhn and H Jones for Warner and Jordan:

    TU: Do both
    TD: Just one

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  47. AFL site re: this Thursday Nights game….Buckley also said the Pies would consider tagging Brownlow medallist Lachie Neale who was shut out of the Lions’ round two loss to Geelong by Irishman Mark O’Connor.
    jeepers !!!!!

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    1. Nathan Buckley – “We know Levi Greenwood has been a really good stopper for us in the past, so that’s a consideration for us,”

      “Neale’s a quality player, he doesn’t often put two bad ones together.

      “It probably shows you how difficult it is as an elite player in the competition to continually back up.

      “It’s not as if coaches are sitting on their hands ignoring the quality of players in the opposition, so he’s definitely someone that we’ll consider, but they (Brisbane) happen to have a few, like most sides do.

      “The job that O’Connor did was a strong performance but I think that there’s also a team element to that as well in what Geelong were able to do to stifle Brisbane as a whole.”

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  48. have a general consensus about what this site feels on trading neale however i’m super torn. also have caldwell so he’s gotta go no matter what, just a case of whether it’s worth using the cash i get from the neale trade to get another premo in

    TU – Neale & Caldwell to Ridley & Dusty/Brayshaw
    TD – Only Caldwell to Tex

    also in the comments is a dusty/brayshaw poll, thanks 🙂

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  49. Got T.Phillips and very little bank balance for future trades ($35k)

    TU: Trade for Walker (bank $135k)
    TD: HOLLLLLD (bank $35k)

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  50. Dow to:

    TU: Impey
    TD: Jordon

    I’m leaning towards Impey as Jordon’s job security isn’t great when Melbourne’s players (Viney, Hibberd, Weideman, Ben Brown, etc.) return, but still open to suggestions

    Thanks coaches!

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  51. My D1 to D4 are Maynard, Mills, Blicavs & Haynes. All 9 bench players scored this week, so I’m confident I have most of the must have Rookies. Thinking of going Maynard to Ridley & Haynes to Bowes, to bolster DEF scoring? Yay or Nay?
    cheers

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  52. Hello, I know most people are saying ‘hold’ for Neale, but I think i’ve decided to give him the boot. TU or TD

    Neale & Caldwell to Brayshaw & Dunkley

    Thanks Coaches.

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    1. Trev.

      I own Neale.

      If I owned Caldwell, and didn’t have Dunkley. I would probably consider doing this trade.

      But…

      Only if I had all the good rookies though, Do you ?

      If not get that must have rookie and just go Caldwell to Tex / Impey / Hind.

      The combo of say Tex and Jordan should make much more cash than Neale is likely to lose.

      Best of luck whatever way you go.

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      1. Thanks FT,

        I’ve been lucky this year with my rookie selections, only missing out on Powell.
        I know it’s a risk getting rid of Neale, but my thinking is i’m swapping a premium keeper and a mid-pricer for two keepers.
        Only time will tell if it pays off or not I guess.
        Cheers!

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  53. So just thinking if impey does not make 300k all up by me not starting him thats 2 trades used 1 to get him in the other to trade out is this worth it over others that started .

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  54. Have neale and I realize he will be a top 10 player , also have Caldwell am thinking of trading both to Cerra and Martin, Martin will be a keeper in the forwards and Cerra is a chance to to be a top 10-15 midfield and a good point of difference, don’t have Jordan or Warner but have rest of the rookies, don’t really want to bring in either as would cost me more trades later and both Martin and Cerra can be keeper’s

    Tu, yes
    Tu, no

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    1. Are the thumbs down for trading Neale or for bringing in Dusty and Cerra ?Dusty could be in his happiest place ever and keep on averaging 120 for the year, and Cerra could be on a break out year (a lot of people are picking up Brayshaw who will get more attention with Fife out) and although Neale is a gun, he had a interrupted preseason and sides might have worked out how to nullify his output and there is more Brisbane midfield player’s rising to the occasion, I know he’s Quality but!

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  55. So here’s the situation…
    Burnt 2 trades already offloading Rowell and Danger
    This week, I’ve already brought a valuable cash cow in Warner for Oliver Henry.
    With mostly good cash cows (other than T.Bruhn) and a couple of mediocre scores from a couple premos (Crippa being the biggest worry as he’s about to drop 20k in value)
    Do I:
    T/U ditch Cripps for a more consistent underpriced premo (Cerra)
    T/D stock up fully on cash cows and bring J.Jordon

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  56. Are people interested by Jelwood? Cripps >Jelwood
    Seems underpriced to me.
    TU Yes
    TD No not worth it

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    1. I’m expecting Selwood to score a bit stronger for the next couple of weeks but his scoring will probably go back down once Dangerfield returns to the line-up.

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      1. The two of them traditionally complimented each other in the scoring.

        But realistically at his age don’t be expecting a 115 average. there is good cash growth potential and maybe M8 keeper there, but not really any higher.

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    1. Why? He is only out for one week.
      He is playing well. Trades are golden and we only have a finite number. Have you got all the cash cows? That is where we should be concentrating our trades ( or conserving them) not wasting trades on sideward moves. You chose Fyfe for a reason and you should stick with your keepers.

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  57. Like many, had Rowell in week 1 that hurt. Went to Cerra and had a good round and rank up to 620. Now have to deal with Caldwell. Trying to keep up, so Thinking of Dow to Jordon and then have choice of Caldwell to
    TU Butters (basically no bank)
    TD Tex (bank of $200000)
    Cheers

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  58. TU Neale > Jordan and Treacey > Tex

    Eyeballing Brayshaw, Ridley or Macrae the following week. Think it’s worth making the most of the big price increase of Tex and Jordan and decrease of Neale comparative to the other aforementioned blokes

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  59. T/U:
    Caldwell —> Impey
    Cripps —> J Lloyd

    T/D:
    Caldwell —> Tex
    Cripps —> Dusty

    Comment: Boak over Dusty

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  60. In a dilemma

    Caldwell to Jordon = No dramas

    Do I bring Flynn in via dpp for Tyson/Dow. I own Treacy and can easily slide him forward and use as a rookie loophole.

    T/U – Bring in Flynn for one of the 2 above spuds
    T/D – Hold and save the trade for later on.

    Cheers

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  61. Neale -> Dusty
    Tyson -> Tex Walker
    Leaves me with 140k in the bank to upgrade Caldwell next week. He won’t lose cash anyways so he’ll be on my bench this week whilst Tyson will most likely lose money with 73 BE.

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  62. Yet to use any trades this year, and while having no glaring holes, feel this is the time to make some moves. Lucked out with having blokes like Ridley, Brayshaw, Oliver, MacRae, Dunkley. Also have all the right rookies. Definitely keeping Neale. My two concerns are Philips and Dow.

    T/U – Philips -> Dusty/Tex, Dow -> Impey
    T/D – Don’t trade Philips, Dow -> Impey

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      1. Thanks for all the feedback legends. Looks like I’ll be holding onto Philips and hoping he cleans up his DE%.

        My options are now:

        T/U – Dow -> Tex
        T/D – Dow -> Impey, Harry Sharp -> cash cow like Lachie Young

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  63. Dom Tyson – James Jordon = Tick

    Trading Caldwell obviously = 640k in bank

    T/U – Tex
    T/D – Flynn
    Comment – Impey

    Thanks

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  64. TU: Clark & Z.Williams for Darcy Moore & Tex (some DPP magic involved)

    TD: Clark & H.Jones for Impey & Berry.

    Logic is basically that don’t trust Clark’s job security, but have all the other good rookies.

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  65. Need some opinions from smarter people than me.

    Currently in the top 50 so want to stay up.
    Still have 30 trades.

    TU – merrett to boak, taranto to cerra
    TD – save your trades you eager beaver

    Rationale here is merrett is playing for a struggling bombers team with no recognised ruck and taranto isn’t passing the eye test and disposal is yuck. If I don’t make the trade this week I won’t be able to do it in future due to price changes

    Thanks!

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    1. I wouldn’t short Merrett but Taranto (and GWS) looks super shaky. I’m looking to move him on too as I was hoping he could at worst be an M8 but that’s probably the best case scenario now. He’s my M5 now and I’m probably gonna go him to Dusty/Brayshaw/Ridley and Dow to Jordon. But for a single trade Cerra looks alright.

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      1. Yeah fair call. Only way I can do it is with two trades though. Have no extra cash. Cheers have given me something to think about

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  66. Should I trade meek to Flynn r3 just for the extra cash to be made or save trade

    TU – yes
    TD – no

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  67. Traded Danger and Rowell out last week for May and Titch. Any correction recommendations?
    DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, May, Clark, Highmore (L.Jones, Kosi)
    MID: Neale, Oliver, Zmerrett, Titch, Crippa, Tom Powell, James Jordan, Gulden (Sharp, Downie, Brockman)
    RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
    FWD: Dunkley, Ziebell, Dow, Campbell, Warner, Rowe (A.Scott, Treacy)
    $31,200 in the bank.
    Cheers!!

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    1. I’m in the same boat with the Cripps / Neale combo in the middle.

      I personally think Neale comes good, knew that when I started him that he’d most likely start slow.

      But can’t see Cripps turning it around anytime soon.

      Could look at a Cripps sideways if you agree; otherwise I’d definitely be looking at getting in Sam Berry from the Crows

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      1. Yeah agree with you there Abs, don’t understand the panic around Neale but Cripps if we knew that we had the mystery issue pre-season probably would have looked elsewhere. Who would you recommend I get Berry in for? Crippa likewise?

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        1. If I go ahead I’m doing Cripps -> Brayshaw purely for bye reasons / I was looking at Andy heavily in the pre season. He looks the goods.

          Could look at the other two I’m considering (Ridley & Dusty)
          Love Ridley, went Stewart purely for bye reasons but knew he’d have a big year with Bombers having a down year.

          Dusty I’m less sold on, especially with Sydney and Port to come. Feel like a point chaser going him now. But he’s the 2nd most chosen player for good reason, looks an animal thus far.

          As for Berry; Downie will get game time eventually this season for us, matter of when: Scott & Sharp might get dropped this week so i’d look at one of them.

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  68. 3 rookies I am not happy with Bruhn Jones (ess) and Dow and the lachie Neale dilemma
    One rookie correction Jordan
    Tu jordan tex walker for jones and neale bank cash
    Td jordan and dusty for jones and neale

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  69. Think im going to roll with
    Taranto to Boak
    Jones to Walker

    Chasing cash with walker, surely makes more than Jones
    No port players and Boak doesnt look like slowing down

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  70. Hey Folks,

    Jones & Dow > Warner and Impey

    Jones to Warner is locked in so thoughts on the Dow > Impey trade. I don’t like side trading especially when Dow’s BE is only 6. However, he isn’t going to score well and make some cash if he continues to have leather poisoning.

    T/U Dow trade
    T/D Hold him

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  71. What are people’s thoughts on Caldwell and Dow to Rookie and Bowes.
    T/U Good Trade Bowes will keep up being a seagull
    T/D Bowes is getting lucky
    Tell me what two players you would get for about 500k combined

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    1. I’d say both if possible, but I think Warner has better job security and seems to get more centre bounces, but it all depends on if you need a forward or mid rookie cos they are both great options.

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  72. Have Dow and not really encouraged by what ive seen so far.
    Is it worth using two trades to move him to impey? (5k itb only)

    e.g. sharp to loophole (dont have one) and dow to impey
    tu: yes
    td: waste of trades

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    1. Sharp will most likely be a loophole this week. If he isn’t it’s due to the covid situation because he was in their travelling party. He will be soon enough.

      Great young kid, but that’s what he is… a young kid.

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      1. Unfortunately with Brisbane playing on Thursday night you won’t be able > use Sharp as a loophole option.

        I am in the same boat in hoping that a loophole option reveals itself later in the week end.

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        1. Yeah,can’t use him for loophole this week. Scott might become one too, but that’s hardly an improvement.

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  73. Alright, think I will get rid of neale and cripps. Who comes in?
    already have bont, merrett, taranto. dunkley and dusty in forward too.
    The safe option at the moment seems like oliver and someone else.
    Any recommendations?

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  74. I don’t have either Warner or Berry but had to get rid of Rowell and Danger last week so hesitant to use too many trade early. I do have all the other key rookies (except Impey if he counts). So need some advice

    TU: Bring both in likely for Dow and Caldwell and build some bank
    TD: Hold off for now

    Comment: Pick one of the two

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    1. A more aggressive move. Instead of Berry bring in Tex. Potentially Higher scores, better job security and expected to increase higher in value

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  75. Is Jordon a must have? Best option to get him in with 1 trade is Bergman or Fullarton to Jordon

    T/U – Fullarton to Jordon
    T/D – Hold trades

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  76. Am I missing something with Dow? Why is everyone in such a hurry to trade him? 200k DPP who isn’t in form averaging 56.5 and a break even of 6.
    TU if you’re holding him
    TD if you’re trading him

    Interested to hear everyone’s thoughts

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    1. If there wasn’t such a glut of higher cash generation rookies I would soldier on with Dow.

      Problem is he looks like without some sudden change of fortune he is only going to be a 60 point player and he’s gonna tap out at under $100k cash growth.

      Williams getting more midfield time will hurt his scoring too.

      A smart trade can see him being replaced to someone who will make that 100k in 2 weeks.

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      1. A counter point is that he only needs one decent game and he’ll make his 150K. If we had unlimited trades I’d be ruthless, but coughed up 2 trades already for Danger/Rowell. Think I need to tough it out.

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        1. Injuries to Fisher and Martin probably make the biggest case for keeping Dow.

          The largest single problem with Dow is frankly his low TOG.

          I don’t think anyone sees him as a “must trade out” so much as a ” I want to get the best cash generating rookie who is underperforming expectations and is not one of my designated keepers.

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    2. Why trade now when he has cash to make? Only reason would be if you missed a big cash cow. Any other reason no

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  77. Hi Coaches,

    I’m thinking of getting Butters in this week before his price skyrockets! Does Rozee’s potential inclusion this week impact his SC output you think?

    T/U: Yes
    T/D: No

    Thanks.

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  78. Any advice appreciated: 28 trades left ($76k )- Already did Cripps> Ridley via Clark

    Laird, Ridley, Daniel, Stewart, Short, Young (Koschi, Highmore)
    Oliver, MaCrae, Zerett, Jordan Clark, Campbell, Powell, Jordon, Gulden
    (Fyfe, Sharp, Berry)
    Gawndy (Flynn)
    Dunkley, Martin, Ziebell, Daniher, Warner, Rowe (Brockman, Scott)

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    1. Looks like a very good lineup. The only question is if you want Tex for Daniher. It’s the only trade I can see worth doing.

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      1. Thanks HH and Anthony.
        Should I hold on Cripps to Ridley? Seems like a waste of a trade but Ridley will be a top 6 def whereas Cripps won’t be a top mid. So maybe not a wasted trade..?

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          1. Cheers. With the Harry Sharp news, would you trade him to Impey (leaves me $4k) or stick to Cripps trade?

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    2. Jarman.

      Personally I would rather Highmore on field in defence, than Rowe / Brockman forward. His floor is way higher.

      My suggestion would be move Campbell forward for Scott. Then just upgrade Cripps to Brayshaw / Mitchell.
      Brayshaw for value or Titch for his Bye.

      I would then swap Sharp and J Clark so your Def and Mids look like this..

      Laird . Daniel . Stewart . Short . Young . Highmore
      Sharp . Kosi.

      Oliver . Macrea . Merret . *Brayshaw/ Titch .
      J Clark . Powell . Jordan . Gulden.
      Scott . Berry . Fyfe.

      And your Forwards.
      Dunkley . Dusty . Ziebell . Daniher . Campbell .Warner
      Brockman . Rowe.

      The other slightly riskier move, but potentially better cash gen is go… Cripps to Cerra and Daniher to Tex.

      Best of luck whatever you decide.

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      1. Thanks Freo Tragic for the reply. Made some of those moves. How come you prefer TMitch/Brayshaw to Ridley in Def. I see Ridley as a Top 6 defender where as I dont see TMitch or Brayshaw in the top mids.

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  79. D. Tyson —> Berry
    I have all the other rookies
    Second trade:
    TU: Dow —> Walker/ Impey
    TD: Dow/Sharp —> Young

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  80. Nobody hss mentioned jiath. 260k defender who could average 90 easy. Is everyone’s def set, of am i the only one considering this trade

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    1. Anyone who started him would be very happy.. Avg 90 is not enough to be a keeper in def, so another trade required to get a premo. Not worth it IMO .

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  81. With the annual early season bombers curse, I am looking at two options. Gonna keep Draper as Flynn can cover and Draper can be a second c loop option till a suitable one up one down upgrade presents.

    Option 1.
    Out Henry and Sharp
    In Jordon/Warner
    ITB $138.3l

    Option 2
    Out Henry and Caldwell
    In Tex and Warner/Jordan

    ITB $195.3

    I consider ITB to be plus Draper $378.1

    Problem with Opt 1 is it has to be done fully by Thursday night. I keep looking at Tex $200k in the next three weeks, and apart from this round, high scoring options ahead.

    T/U 1
    T/D 2

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    1. Wighty, your Black and Red glasses are filtering out plenty of other option:

      Draper to Meek/Treacy (in advance)
      Caldwell to anyone you want!

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      1. Why trade draper at all at the moment. I don’t need another ruck. Agree re Caldwell. There are rookies to be had this week before trading Draper.

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    2. I would honestly be using Flynn and then looking to pick up a cheap cash generator in R3 next week or the week after for Draper.

      Nick Bryan and Josh Treacy should play their first games this week so would be worth waiting and saving a trade for when on the bubble

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      1. Yes….given the poor short term outlook for bombers, Bryan might get an early run. Draper doesn’t get traded till there is a good option….I was struggling for a c loop this week too…Bont into Gawn.

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  82. On behalf of SOS (Son of Shaggi) I ask the following:

    OUT – ROB & Downie

    IN – Walker & Butters

    Thumbs up or Thumbs Down please.

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  83. T/U: Dow to Impey for more scoring potential on-field

    Or

    T/D: Bruhn to Berry for cash gen. on bench

    Can only do one due to trading Jones to Jordon via DPP.

    Cheers.

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  84. My only definite trade is Dow to Warner, which would leave me with 28 trades & $95k.

    I’ll then have Highmore, Jordan, Gulden, Berry, Flynn, Campbell, Warner, Brockman and Rowe (and McNeil, Scott, Koschitzke & Hunter). Current ranking is =422nd. I’m in 3 cash leagues, which will probably be a bigger focus for me than ranking.

    The player I’m uncertain about is De Goey. He isn’t getting the extra midfield time I thought he would so is still too reliant on goals for points. I could trade him to Heeney or Butters and still have at $59k+. Do I admit that I probably got that one wrong and correct it by trading him, then hopefully not have to trade for a few weeks or hold the trade? Leaning towards holding the trade for but please let me know what you think.

    TU – trade him
    TD – hold the trade

    Thanks

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    1. I’m not in vested in De Goey but share your concerns.

      the sooner Bucks works out he has no forward line without De Goey, especially without Elliott, the sooner Collingwood can get it’s self together.

      As far as Butters or Heeney goes, I would trade to Heeney based on the possibility of Rozee returning.

      However, clearly Butters has a better average and better breakeven, and his big score critically came in Round 2 not Round 1 so counts in pricing calculations twice.

      I have both Butters and Heeney in my side.

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  85. I don’t have Jordan or Warner but have all the other relevant rookies. Looking to trade out Neale and Cripps for titch and Brayshaw this week though. Thoughts?

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    1. I think cash cows should be the priority right now, especially two cows like Jordan and Warner – I don’t think you can afford to miss out on them! I also don’t think Neale (especially) and Cripps are big trade priorities. I think trading Neale for anyone is a luxury choice more than anything; we all know he’ll come good. I think your better cash grab is the cows rather than through trading Beale

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  86. Caldwell to Warner is done. Now have $221k itb.

    Do I trade:
    TU: Cripps to Ridley (via DPP)
    TD: H Jones to Impey/Tex (comment which one)

    Cheers Coaches!

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    1. I’m not sure that my position on Neale is allowed, because I’m not invested in him (disclaimer).

      However, what I will say is that before Round 3 is the time to make decisions based on cash growth (or cash loss), because rookie players or players previously discounted due to injury or lack of opportunity correct to more realistic prices, and do so based on the KNOWN outcomes of the last two weeks and the expected outcome of those last two weeks of form.

      For me, this means that is you choose to cut an underperforming player, you need to do so on the principle that trades are a FINITE thing that also come at a financial and points cost.

      I would make the best economic choices based on round 3 breakevens. Round 3 is like a supercharged sharemarket where things have stored value built up wihtout a price change.

      As far as making long term commitments on players, a premium player who has not blown it out of the park or completely stuffed it up usually varies by less than $20k at Round 3.

      By comparison players like Gulden, Flynn and to a lesser degree Tex are going to go up by 5 times that amount, and Neale is going to go down by 3-4 times that amount.

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  87. My current premium mids are Neale, Oliver & Merrett. Will be trading out Rowell this week (kept him on field last week so I could score Campbell’s 118 emergency score). I want Macrae but liking A Brayshaw (Freo) who is $105,900 cheaper and averaging the same, and more of a POD. If I get Brayshaw, I still plan on getting Macrae in down the track, and hoping he drops a bit in price…

    TU: Macrae all the way, trade him in this week
    TD: Brayshaw this week, and bank that $106k

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  88. T/U: Phillips & Hayden Young > Ridley & Jordon
    T/D: Phillips & My loophole (Saunders) > Butters & Jordon

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  89. Who trade out for the one main rookie I missed, Campbell:

    TU: Dow
    TD: Sharp
    Comment: Daniher or Scott

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    1. Depends on what your structure needs.

      Sharp looks like he’ll be on the outer shortly, both due to his age and if Brisbane want to look after both his wellbeing and post football future.

      (That’s an if with a big grain of salt, obviously).

      But a 117k who can be a future donut and has dual position has some benefit.

      Dow is at 6 breakeven which looks ok, but the concern is that looking forward his cashflow growth looks poor despite the 6 breakeven.

      The saving grace for Dow might be injuries. Martin and Fisher out for 6 weeks assures Dow his spot in the side, and potentially guarantees him more scoring potential.

      Daniher looks ok although not great. His DreamTeam score was substantially higher than his SuperCoach score which suggests he’s not doing as badly as SC is rewarding him for.

      Scott also seems like despite a bad scoring outcome he’s doing a role.

      Of the 4 options, it’d be between Sharp and Scott, depending on teams and how much you value the F/M versus D/M DPP.

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      1. Appreciate the detailed reply. Leaning towards Sharp myself, mainly because I feel like he can score a bit better than he has so far and is an option to be played on field a lot more than sharp is. Also the D/M dual isnt super valuable to me yet as my defenders are pretty set. Have the cash from trades last week to go up but more curious as to what other coaches thoughts were on the almost 100k price difference between them. Obviously Dow is more appealing scores wise but he also a fair bit more expensive to start with.

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  90. Im so torn. This is the only trade im considering for neal. Points are too important to have your number 1 mid pulling 70 to 90s.

    Neal and hepell for andrew brayshaw and sam walsh

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  91. Considering these two trades,

    Caldwell > Tex (cash gen, forced trade)
    Cripps > Boak (correctional, don’t think Cripps will be top 8 mids)

    Would leave me with 26 trades after the first two rounds (which I usually HATE) but had to account for Danger and Rowell round 1. Have all the good rookies so don’t need to make any rookie corrections.

    Thoughts? TU/TD.

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    1. I’m not sure if the thumbs down are saying it’s silly or it isn’t. But in my opinion that’s a good trade

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  92. Hello SCT community! I am after much needed advice. I find myself ranked inside the top 700 (which is very rare territory for me) and I’m not sure what to do.

    These are the concerns I have:
    Paddy Dow(Blues)
    Taranto (GWS)
    H. Young (Freo)
    A. Scott (Dogs)
    H. Jones (Ess)

    These are the players I’m looking at:
    Ridley (Ess)
    Impey (Hawks)
    Brockman (Hawks)
    Logan MCDONALD (Syd)
    Berry (Crows)

    I’m not sure what to do. Should my priority be to get the rookies I missed? Brockman /Berry/McDonald?

    Something like?:
    Dow -> Brockman
    A. Scott -> Berry

    TIA

    -The Fanatic

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    1. I am in a similar boat to you. It is a conundrum. Do you have enough cash for Taranto –> Ridley & Dow –> Brockman or Berry? If not I would personally recommend Jones –> Brockman and Scott –> Berry. I think Dow could come good with the latest injuries at Carlton and average a solid 70 for a while whereas Brockman is definitely a better option compared to Jones and Berry better than Scott as far as I’m aware.

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      1. With injuries to Zak Fisher and Jack Martin Paddy Dow will stay in my side. Hopefully he gets more game time and can generate some more points.

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    2. Prioritize in order of breakeven, unless you are looking at donuts or really low onfield scores.

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      1. And every year we get a wanker who gives thumbs down to every one of even the most inoffensive and obvious statements.

        Golf clap you.

        Well done.

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    3. Def get your rookies right in the first few rounds…may cause a little loss of ground but the right long term move. Rookies not always available later in the season when you want them for a downgrade.

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  93. I’ll try keep this simple

    Caldwell and Tyson out

    T/U – Flynn, Jordon
    T/D – Flynn, Tex

    Or – Jordon, Tex

    Money no issue

    Struggling big time here. Also quite keen on Impey and Atkins
    Plz Help boys

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  94. Will be trading in either Cerra or Houston this week with some DPP swings. Note that if I bring in Cerra to the midfield then it weakens the backline a bit.

    TU: Cerra
    TD: Houston

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    1. I think cerra’s definitely in for a breakout year. But they’re pretty close in price so id take Houston.

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      1. Houston is on greater growth potential based on a spike. Cerra is better long term based on greater consistency.

        Honestly both are great trades and hard to separate

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  95. Already made two trades last week (Danger and Rowell).

    I feel like Cripps has to go, but know the importance of getting good rookies in to start the season

    TU: Cripps and Bruhn > Brayshaw and Jordon

    TD: Dow and Bruhn > Impey and Jordon

    Comment for using just one trade from TD

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    1. I really like brayshaw i think he’ll end up being a good m7 or m8 by seasons end. whereas i dont think impey will be a keeper.

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  96. Only missing one rookie so who to trade out for Warner?
    TU: Dow (current thinking)
    TD: Fullerton
    Comment: Sharp or Scott
    Thanks team!

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    1. Big O is in doubt so Fullerton might get more time in the ruck. Scott/Sharp might get dropped this week. Wait for teams and trade someone that is dropped, else Dow if noone is dropped.

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  97. Planned to trade out both Caldwell and Draper which gets me $770k in the bank.

    Have Gawn and Meek in Ruck.

    Still need Campbell and Warner, have other gun rookies.

    T/U – Premium / Rookie split (premium could be M/R/F)
    T/D – Rookie / Rookie double with plenty of cash in the bank and more cash cows.

    Thanks

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    1. If you’re trading out Draper, probably worth considering bringing in Flynn cause he’ll also go up a bit but the swans all seem like must haves

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    2. Worth remembering that neither Draper or Caldwell will drop in value this week if you have other corrections to make and can avoid a donut anyway… not super useful as loopholes this week though unfortunately.

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  98. Hi Coaches,

    Could someone please let me know if Rozee’s inclusion this week will impact Butter’s SC output?

    T/U: Yes, will impact his SC output – Don’t get Butters in
    T/D: No Impact – Get him in, he’s a Jet.

    Thank you!

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    1. I think it’s inevitable that Butters will lose some points to Rozee as they are both in that HF/rotating midfield player role but Butters showed last season he can still put out big scores. I just think he’ll be inconsistent. Port have too much midfield depth.

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      1. H Plate.

        I think nearly all the Premo forwards will be inconsistent.

        Dunkley and (*maybe Dusty) are the only exceptions.

        *Can he maintain the rage ?

        Sidebum . Zorko . Heeney . Butters .will all put up some substandard scores this year.

        The good news it they all have high ceilings as Butters showed last week. I was a little sceptical of Butters preseason.
        But with Ports form ,and the new high scoring game style comp wide. I now see Butters as a pretty safe pick.

        I actually think Fantasia may be more affected by Rozee’s return. I guess time will tell.

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        1. Thanks Hplate & FT for your thoughts. I’m going to bite the bullet and get Butters in – I too feel, Rozee will be more HF with the occasional midfield role.

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          1. No probs Vin

            He does have WC and Rich the next two weeks so may come back to earth a bit.
            I still see him as a solid Forward pick for the season.

            Best of luck !

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        2. Thunbs up.

          But * = -thumb for maintain the rage. Not awarded but it’s there for others to review. Dusty hasn’t really ever maintained elite mid status but scraped in on forward

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        3. That’s a fair point. Even the premos in Dustin and Dunkley aren’t 100% locked in as consistent scorers.

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  99. TU: Dow to Impey
    TD: Neale to Impey, carry the cash for a week and start upgrade season 1-2 rounds early with a massive warchest…

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  100. Given the latest injuries at Carlton and Paddy Doh’s dpp, is he worth trading to Impey this week?

    TU – worth it
    TD – not worth it

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    1. I had exactly the same question as I was looking to make that trade. He is a potato at times but surely more game time means more points? Might save the trade hey. especially after seeing this result. Impey just looks so good.

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  101. More pressing trade out?
    T/U – Noble
    T/D – Phillips

    Took a risk on Noble thinking he could play wing, but only churning out the 70s. Other one I will offload is Caldwell

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    1. I’m going to give taranto another couple of weeks. He is still scoring okay for his prices. luxury trade if everything else is okay and you havent already used 2 trades.

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  102. To those people who are set on holding Neale, I want to hear your option after supposedly being injured at training. Thoughts please???

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    1. Chris Fagan said Brownlow medalist Lachie Neale would be “fine” to play the Magpies despite being on light duties for much of the week.”

      My thoughts of retaining a keeper hasn’t altered.

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        1. It is not going to change my long term strategy.
          Tagging only works if you win the game. Brisbane are more than one player and I do not think coaches will persist if they lose games. Geelong should have lost only for an umpiring error.
          It will be interesting to observe.
          No, I am not concern if Greenwood plays.

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    2. I’d comment about how I shared in a post forecasting there was more than just O’Connor’s tagging but apparently that earns me thumbs down and I am a sensitive creature with no concept of reality.

      Going to run now into my salty bath of tears. Boo hoo.

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  103. Torn on my upgrade:

    T/U – Ridley
    T/D – Dunkley

    Dunks safer bet for top 6, but has the Bevo factor. Ridley is on a tear

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    1. Eventually you’re gonna want both of them mate, so just pick who fits the dynamic of your side better for now.

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  104. Neale and Lazzaro
    to
    Dunkley and Impey
    Means Rowe and Brockman are benched and Warner F6

    Tu: yes
    Td: no

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  105. Afternoons legends,

    I’m thinking Neale out..
    T/U – Boak
    T/D – Oliver
    Other trade will be Dow out for Impey or Warner.

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    1. Draper is injured so probably him, unless you have cover. You will need to trade him eventually though

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  106. Draper injured is my only real problem, and I have all rookies barring Jordan and Berry. Other RUC is Gawn/Flynn.
    30 trades + $8k ITB, 11 keepers

    TU: Draper, Neale > Grundy, Jordan ($330k ITB)
    TD: Draper, Sharp > Meek, Jordan ($256k ITB)

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      1. Nice, good point.

        I have been looking at going Neale & Sharp > Berry & Jordon to double-up Cripps & Dow > Dunkley & Macrae next week, with the plan to hold off on Draper for Treacy down the line. It’s a bloody quick way to go through trades though.

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  107. Am missing Jordon and Warner.

    TU: Cripps & Dow > Jordon & Warner
    ($472k ITB 10 keepers plus ziebell, Taranto and Phillips.
    Bank to bring in Neale when he bottoms out

    TD: Cripps & Dow > Brayshaw & Warner
    ($51k ITB) 11 keepers plus ziebell, Taranto and Phillips.

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    1. Cash first at Round 3. You get all the corrections from last season injury, club changes, new role.

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  108. Looking for ideas on moves to make this week. No glaring holes that I can see apart from an underperforming Philips and a lack of Dusty, have been lucky to avoid most major problems this year . Obviously feeling a little itchy on the trigger due to not having used any trades yet, the main move being moving Dow on to an Impey-type. But with Carlton injuries he may survive for a while yet.

    DEF: Ridley, Laird, Daniel, Young, Koschitzke, Highmore (Sharp, Fyfe)
    MID: Neale, MacRae, Oliver, Merrett, Brayshaw, Jordon, Berry, Gulden (Powell, Brockman, Scott)
    RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
    FWD: Dunkley, Philips, Ziebell, Dow, Campbell, Warner (Fullarton, Rowe)

    30 trades remaining, $150,400 in the bank. Thoughts?!

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    1. Wow, you are in great shape with that starting team. You don’t need to do anything but you have no def bench cover with Sharp out. If you felt like tinkering then you could go Neale to Dusty and upgrade Sharp to a low-mid price defender like Jiath.

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    2. Phillips got poor outcome for effort last week. Dusty has just played his historically 2 easiest teams.

      Kosi is probably on the edge of recruitment.

      That is your #1 priority

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  109. I’ve had a lucky start and wondering if I should be a bit aggressive with my trades

    TU: Daniel > Bowes, Greene > Dunkley
    TD: just save the trades

    My other defenders: Laird, Mills, Docherty, Jiath, Clarke
    My other forwards: Martin, Ziebell, Daniher and rookies
    Current rank 289/30 trades left

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    1. Be aggressive by all means, but I’d be holding Daniel, especially as he has North this week! By all means get Dunkley in, but find another way… otherwise hold.

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    2. I think Daniel had one bad game and you’re chasing last week’s points with Bowes.

      I do like the Dunkley trade though.

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  110. TU- Harry Sharp and Tanner Bruhn to James Jordan and Lachie Young

    TD- save your trades since I had to spend 2 last week on Rowell and Danger

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  111. I have a dilemma. I have already traded Duggan to Jayden Short. I have both Neale and Cripps. Would it be best to trade Neale to Brayshaw for cash or trade Cripps.

    TU Cripps to A Brayshaw
    TD Neale to A Brayshaw

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        1. Ideally no more than 6 at this stage. When bringing in keepers just try to keep a balance.

          Eg. I’m at 0-6-6 right now, so my first upgrade will be from the R12 bye.

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          1. Can someone explain this – when you say you’re at 0-6-6 for the bye rounds, are you meaning you have 22 players (full team) in R12, then 6 missing from rounds 13 & 14?

            What should I be aiming for when doing my trades from now onwards, if I wanted to be in the best/strongest position by R12?

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  112. Need to trade Caldwell and want to trade Neale for a better scorer and money in the bank for another upgrade.

    TU Caldwell and Neale out, for Jordan and Brayshaw
    TD Caldwell to Jordan only, keep Neale

    Comment: or is there really a valid case for Tex instead of Brayshaw and then cash for double upgrade. Short term pain for long term gain

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  113. Hey people,

    New to SC this year (played a lot of AFL Fantasy). I have Fyfe and am pondering whether to hold or trade? In Fantasy I’d trade straight away, however, in SC it is important to not waste trades. What should I do? Cheers.

    TU – Hold
    TD – Trade

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    1. tough call
      last time fyfe missed just 1 match after a more severe concussion
      on that occasion he was able to perform and score well once he returned

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  114. Considering the following
    trades. 29 trades left
    Neale > Ridley (via Laird )
    Phillips > Martin.
    Tu: Yes go for it
    Td: No keep the trades.

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  115. Tearing my hair out over this and need the help of the big brains in here

    Looking to correct Cripps and Bring in Jordon

    Can’t decide between:
    Lukosius
    Butters
    Cerra

    Oh help me wise ones

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    1. You’ve probably (like most of us) already got 5 or 6 R14 bye players, so put a line through Cerra unless you’re somehow light for that bye.

      That narrows it down to Butters v Lukosius. I’d be grabbing Butters just for his higher ceiling, haven’t seen enough of Lukosius yet.

      Good luck.

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  116. TU: Cripps -> Brayshaw , Bruhn – Jordan
    TD: Save your trades – already burnt 2 with Danger & Rowell

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  117. Thinking whether to do an aggressive trade to bank an extra premium at a lower cost or just trade conservatively to get the one rookie I’ve missed. Only scenario I’d trade Neale is to bring in two keepers for the price of one.

    Tu – Neale + Caldwell to dusty + MacRae
    TD – Caldwell to Jordon
    Comment: Sharp to Jordon

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    1. Alternatively – could you do Neale and Caldwell out this week and bring in Jordon and Macrae or Dusty, then bring in the other one next week?

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  118. Take 2:

    T/U: Cripps & Duggan –> Brayshaw & Howard (100k)

    T/D: Dow & Duggan –> Tex & Howard (25k)

    Thanks again – hoping for uneven thumbs and/or advice! 🙂

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  119. Traded Danger and Rowell to May and Titch last week.
    Mentioned earlier in forum about getting in Sam Berry while also trading Cripps out but I’m unsure now about trading Crippa.

    DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, May, Clark, Highmore (L.Jones, Kosi)
    MID: Neale, Oliver, Zmerrett, Titch, Crippa, Tom Powell, James Jordan, Gulden (Sharp, Downie, Brockman)
    RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
    FWD: Dunkley, Ziebell, Dow, Campbell, Warner, Rowe (A.Scott, Treacy)
    $31,200 in the bank, 28 trades left.

    TU – Crippa and sharp/A.scott > Ridley (via Laird) and Sam Berry (would leave $7,200 ITB)
    TD- Hold your trades
    Comment suggestions
    Cheers!!

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  120. 8k in the bank would love to turn hunter at R3 into flynn just for the incoming cash. Do I go Sharp to Murray to allow this?
    T/U Yes
    T/D No

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    1. Or is it worth going
      Crippa to Cerra
      then
      Hunter to Flynn
      Sharp will become my loophole because I don’t have one right now.
      T/U YES
      T/D NO

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    1. Definitely Cumming, he’s been their #1 kick in taker and is seeing plenty of it as the Giants start to decline.

      Whereas Wilson’s return had a marked impact on Young’s economy. On kick outs alone he went from 5 (Wilson out) to 2 (Wilson in).

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  121. 30 trades in hand.
    I have all the right rookies, no correction trades required.

    Do I downgrade Phillips to Impey?
    Will they both average the same?
    Thinking of banking around 200k for later upgrades.

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    1. Morning, TS.

      Yeah, Phillips is looking like a bit of a swing and miss. Just not going to get a lot of outside service in a mediocre side and won’t get any significant inside time (2 CBAs in R1 & R2).

      Impey, on the other hand, looks to have a pretty solid scoring stream as the distributor and D50 stoppage player.

      A trade and that 200k bank sounds good.

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  122. 30 trades and have all the right rookies except Jordon (not counting Impey). Only have $10k bank so not sure how to get to Jordon. Was going to move Fullarton but since he’s playing, with more ruck time potentially, I’ll give him a week.

    Here are the moves I’m thinking.

    T/U – Neale & Sharp to Lloyd & Jordon. I’ll lose Neale for a bonafide premo in Lloyd, and it means I run 4 deep in the middle (Oliver, Macrae, Walsh, Dunks) and 5 deep down back (Lloyd, Laird, Crisp, Stewart, Short).

    T/D – Hold. Move on Bergman or Brockman to Jordon, or let him pass

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  123. Hey guys,

    Can’t see Phillips averaging anywhere near enough to be a keeper and missed out on picking Jordon. Slightly concerned whether Houli’s return will decrease Short’s output.

    TU: Phillips -> Jordon ($330k in bank)
    TD: Phillips & Dow -> Short & Jordon ($12k in bank)

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  124. Not sure how long Fyfe will be out..
    Tu Fyfe and Dow to Oliver and Jordan
    Td Just swap Downey to Jordan and save a trade

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    1. “Nathan Fyfe is recovering well from his latest concussion and has returned to light running in the early stages of his mandatory 12-day period on the sidelines.”
      Fremantle

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      1. Considering Fyfe’s obvious serious concerns about concusssion destroying his career and longer term implications I really have to ask “Why is he not wearing a helmet?”

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  125. Dad has finally come out of the cellar this week. First thing he mumbled was how I picked Tex….I said what a lovely name Tex Walker was.
    He then said Switowski was a terrible name for anyone playing AFL and how could I pick him…..I just smiled and gave Dad a vegemite sandwich.

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  126. Need some help from smarter people than me.

    Getting rid of H Jones to someone who who’ll make a little more money.

    TU – Logan macdonald (cheaper, violatility, tigers this week)
    TD – tex walker (will make more quicker, more reliable?, more expensive)

    I know that’s a big jump in money but I have some spare and I also have all the other gun rookies forward. It’s a luxury trade as I have the full 30.

    Cheers

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  127. Currently ranked 44th overall partly due to no injury misfortune. Other upside if that is no required trades as yet but I’m getting an itchy trigger finger wanting to maintain rank. Main concerns consist of Cripps, Dow, Daniher, De Goey, H Clark. Wondering if I should swing some luxury trades to get in the likes of Butters, Ridley, Impey and the like. Any thoughts /advice greatly appreciated…

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  128. Look to trade out Neale & Caldwell this week.

    Tossing up between the following 3 to bring in: Walsh, Hind and Jordan (I have all the other must have rookies)

    TU: Need to bring in Jordan and pick one of Walsh and Hind
    TD: I have all the other rookies so go with Walsh and Hind

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  129. Hey boys need suggestions

    TU – Phillis to Martin and bank $56,300

    TD – Phillips to Tex and bank $299,700

    Have all the necessary rookies already

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  130. Hey, I have a question. I vice captained Grundy and captaining Treacy. Say Treacy is Medical sub and he plays does that mean his score will be counted as captain. And what happens if he doesn’t play but is medical sub does he score count. Cheers in advance.

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  131. Hey lads, so I’m a gawn/Flynn/hunter owner.
    With Hunter dropped is it essential I get in meek?

    TU: get meek
    TD: save the trade

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  132. Still deciding on my trades but what are your thoughts on the Dogs’ midfield? Can Bontempelli, Dunkley, Macrae, Liberatore and Treloar all play in the same midfield without it affecting their scores?

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