Game Chat – Richmond v Hawthorn

Written by Thommo on May 6 2016

Venue: MCG, Friday 6th May at 7:50am AEST

Past 5 times:

R18, 2015, Richmond 10.11 (71) d Hawthorn 7.11 (53) at the MCG
R6, 2014, Hawthorn 18.10 (118) d Richmond 7.10 (52) at the MCG
R19, 2013, Richmond 16.11 (107) d Hawthorn 9.12 (66) at the MCG
R9, 2012, Richmond 21.11 (137) d Hawthorn 10.15 (75) at the MCG
R3, 2011, Hawthorn 17.13 (115) d Richmond 6.16 (52) at the MCG 

Best SC Scorers from last game:

  • Richmond: Deledio 134, Miles 118, Maric 117, Rance 109
  • Hawthorn: Lewis 121, Hodge 113, Mitchell 110

INs/OUTs

Richmond

  • In: Vlastuin, McIntosh, Griffiths, Short
  • Out: Maric (Om.), Astbury (Om.), Lambert (Ribs), Cotchin (Cheekbone)

Hawthorn

  • In: Brand, Langford, Hartung
  • Out: Frawley (Concussion), Hodge (Knee), Lovell (Om.)

Game notes: After 5 straight losses, Richmond is already on the brink of missing finals. The media is questioning whether Hardwick’s contract was re-signed prematurely and Captain Cotchin is missing through injury.

In short: Tigerland is not a great place to be at the moment.

Yet, despite meeting the reigning Premiers this week, it’s not all doom and gloom at Punt Road. The Hawks have struggled to find their best form in 2016 and historically they don’t play well against Richmond. Hawthorn goes in as favourite but would anyone be surprised if the Tigers won and kick-started their season?

The 5 Points

1. Anthony Miles and Dustin Martin were the difference for the Tigers when thy beat the Hawks in the teams’ last meeting. Miles was best on ground with 30 disposals, while Martin racked up 27. Ivan Maric dominated the ruck, earning a Brownlow vote with 31 hit-outs.

2. Richmond’s scoring continues to fall compared to last season, with an average of 80 points a game after it was 87 in 2015. Hawthorn is kicking 93 points a game, down from 109 in 2015.

3. The Hawks are one of the best tackling sides so far in 2016, ranked second with an average of 77.2. The Tigers are struggling in this area, ranked 15th with 62.2 per game.

4. Richmond and Hawthorn have met only three times on a Friday night at the MCG and the Tigers are undefeated.

5. Richmond is on track for its worst start to a season since Damien Hardwick’s team lost its first nine games in 2010. Hawthorn hasn’t lost consecutive games since early in 2014.

Thommo’s Tip: Hawthorn by 30 points.

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  1. LATE CHANGES
    Richmond: Nil
    Hawthorn: Sam Mitchell (calf) replaced in selected side by Kieran Lovell

    FINAL INTERCHANGES
    Richmond: Anthony Miles, Sam Lloyd, Connor Menadue, Jason Castagna
    Hawthorn: Billy Hartung, Bradley Hill, Kieran Lovell, Daniel Howe

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  2. Sammy Mitchell late out.

    There’s one more pineapple after 4 outs.

    Hmmm? HAWTHORN tanking?

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    1. Nothing like $2.9 Million of your budget on the bench . That’s over 25%.

      Ouch.

      Mottsy, ya got me this week.

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          1. Yeah. Two trades this week. I’ll still hopefully field 22, just too many premos on the bench to be competitive.

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  3. I put a sneaky $10 on Richmond when I heard Mitchell was out @ $4 went to show my brother the bet and I only put $1 🙁 mustn’t have pressed the 0 hard enough…

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  4. RICHMOND
    8 Jack Riewoldt 44
    4 Dustin Martin 31
    3 Brett Deledio 28
    26 Anthony Miles 25
    32 Corey Ellis 24
    25 Troy Chaplin 24
    1 Nick Vlastuin 23
    10 Shane Edwards 20
    5 Brandon Ellis 19
    16 Shaun Hampson 19
    6 Shaun Grigg 16
    17 Daniel Rioli 15
    27 Sam Lloyd 14
    46 Jason Castagna 13
    11 Jake Batchelor 12
    38 Steven Morris 12
    14 Bachar Houli 11
    45 Jayden Short 11
    37 Connor Menadue 10
    24 Ben Griffiths 7
    33 Kamdyn McIntosh 2
    29 Ty Vickery 2

    HAWTHORN
    22 Luke Breust 40
    28 Paul Puopolo 34
    14 Grant Birchall 28
    26 Liam Shiels 26
    33 Cyril Rioli 25
    3 Jordan Lewis 24
    30 Kaiden Brand 22
    29 Will Langford 22
    8 Taylor Duryea 21
    10 Bradley Hill 18
    21 James Sicily 18
    6 Josh Gibson 17
    41 Daniel Howe 16
    16 Isaac Smith 16
    24 Ben Stratton 14
    4 Billy Hartung 14
    36 Kieran Lovell 13
    18 Jonathon Ceglar 11
    7 Ben McEvoy 9
    23 Tim O’Brien 8
    19 Jack Gunston 6
    9 Shaun Burgoyne 4

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  5. RICHMOND
    4 Dustin Martin 78
    16 Shaun Hampson 50
    1 Nick Vlastuin 47
    8 Jack Riewoldt 46
    26 Anthony Miles 45
    37 Connor Menadue 41
    25 Troy Chaplin 34
    24 Ben Griffiths 33
    6 Shaun Grigg 33
    3 Brett Deledio 31
    29 Ty Vickery 31
    5 Brandon Ellis 30
    32 Corey Ellis 28
    46 Jason Castagna 27
    27 Sam Lloyd 27
    10 Shane Edwards 27
    17 Daniel Rioli 25
    45 Jayden Short 23
    38 Steven Morris 23
    11 Jake Batchelor 21
    14 Bachar Houli 19
    33 Kamdyn McIntosh 11

    HAWTHORN
    19 Jack Gunston 68
    28 Paul Puopolo 61
    22 Luke Breust 57
    4 Billy Hartung 54
    33 Cyril Rioli 51
    3 Jordan Lewis 48
    6 Josh Gibson 48
    14 Grant Birchall 45
    41 Daniel Howe 43
    26 Liam Shiels 43
    16 Isaac Smith 41
    24 Ben Stratton 39
    30 Kaiden Brand 39
    23 Tim O’Brien 35
    36 Kieran Lovell 34
    29 Will Langford 34
    8 Taylor Duryea 31
    10 Bradley Hill 28
    18 Jonathon Ceglar 25
    9 Shaun Burgoyne 19
    7 Ben McEvoy 18
    21 James Sicily 17

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    1. Houli having one of his “run away from the ball” nights. Excellent.

      Dusty’s playing great but Hawthorn look too solid across the field.

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  6. Finally into the top 1k this year…and just bought in Houli to the team… Well was fun while it lasted!

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  7. The Hawks are getting a view of their future tonight with no Hodge, Roughead or Mitchell. It gives this little Carlton supporter a lot of hope.

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    1. If this was our team, we’d have heaps of salary cap space to welcome Weitering and Patrick Cripps to the side.

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      1. What do you mean as I’m a bit confused, Brian?

        Lovell, O’Brien, Sicily, Howe & Brand got 70 touches between them tonight, we are blooding young Hawks & setting ourselves up for a massive tilt in the 2nd 1/2 of the season when Roughie is back

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        1. Spot on Catta! Sitting on 5-2 and playing 5 players under 10 games. Not too shabby. We may not win a fourth in a row, but with a few choice top up players once Hodgey, Lewis, Silk and Mitch retire, the future is looking VERY rosey!

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  8. RICHMOND
    26 Anthony Miles 92
    4 Dustin Martin 86
    1 Nick Vlastuin 77
    27 Sam Lloyd 63
    6 Shaun Grigg 61
    32 Corey Ellis 60
    8 Jack Riewoldt 60
    24 Ben Griffiths 58
    5 Brandon Ellis 57
    16 Shaun Hampson 57
    45 Jayden Short 56
    25 Troy Chaplin 50
    37 Connor Menadue 41
    10 Shane Edwards 41
    14 Bachar Houli 40
    3 Brett Deledio 40
    29 Ty Vickery 40
    38 Steven Morris 38
    46 Jason Castagna 36
    33 Kamdyn McIntosh 36
    17 Daniel Rioli 32
    11 Jake Batchelor 22

    HAWTHORN
    19 Jack Gunston 85
    28 Paul Puopolo 81
    6 Josh Gibson 80
    33 Cyril Rioli 77
    3 Jordan Lewis 75
    4 Billy Hartung 73
    14 Grant Birchall 71
    24 Ben Stratton 62
    16 Isaac Smith 60
    22 Luke Breust 56
    9 Shaun Burgoyne 56
    8 Taylor Duryea 56
    41 Daniel Howe 51
    18 Jonathon Ceglar 51
    26 Liam Shiels 51
    30 Kaiden Brand 50
    29 Will Langford 45
    10 Bradley Hill 43
    21 James Sicily 42
    36 Kieran Lovell 42
    7 Ben McEvoy 39
    23 Tim O’Brien 35

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  9. RICHMOND
    PLAYERSUPERCOACH
    26 Anthony Miles 115
    4 Dustin Martin 111
    1 Nick Vlastuin 92
    5 Brandon Ellis 88
    6 Shaun Grigg 84
    8 Jack Riewoldt 80
    24 Ben Griffiths 78
    27 Sam Lloyd 75
    25 Troy Chaplin 72
    32 Corey Ellis 71
    16 Shaun Hampson 68
    45 Jayden Short 67
    3 Brett Deledio 61
    14 Bachar Houli 55
    29 Ty Vickery 53
    37 Connor Menadue 52
    10 Shane Edwards 45
    38 Steven Morris 45
    33 Kamdyn McIntosh 44
    17 Daniel Rioli 38
    46 Jason Castagna 38
    11 Jake Batchelor 36
    TOTAL1468

    HAWTHORN
    PLAYERSUPERCOACH
    19 Jack Gunston 109
    26 Liam Shiels 107
    6 Josh Gibson 101
    3 Jordan Lewis 100
    4 Billy Hartung 96
    33 Cyril Rioli 95
    28 Paul Puopolo 94
    22 Luke Breust 91
    14 Grant Birchall 89
    16 Isaac Smith 85
    9 Shaun Burgoyne 79
    10 Bradley Hill 73
    8 Taylor Duryea 73
    18 Jonathon Ceglar 72
    24 Ben Stratton 69
    29 Will Langford 65
    41 Daniel Howe 63
    30 Kaiden Brand 62
    36 Kieran Lovell 60
    21 James Sicily 58
    7 Ben McEvoy 53
    23 Tim O’Brien 48
    TOTAL1742

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  10. Highlight of the game for me “they say it is easy to run downHILL, tell that to McIntosh”

    Cometti you legend

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    1. Don’t forget Bruuuuuce’s “Now they’re spreading out wide for the big boy”.

      I seriously can’t believe what he says.

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      1. A lot of Bruce’s comments are premeditated based on his fantasies. Dennis is great & it’s a shame he is retiring. Bruce on the other hand hams it up far too much.

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    1. He was a SC beast in juniors but he’s only holding a spot for Sammy this week.

      He will probably be the next Sam Mitchell.

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  11. Glad I brought in Rich over Houli,

    He’s going to be ripe to bring in next week after another handy drop in price!

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    1. Surely there are better options than houli… do you really want to bring him in? considering richmond’s form and houli’s yo-yo scores. I think there will be more downs than ups for him this season

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      1. I’ve had Houli from the start, and he’s giving the roller coaster I expected. I’m looking pretty closely at Jarrad McVeigh as the next backline upgrade – will drop below 500K after this weekend, but a genuine premium playing in a good team.

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        1. Same here – I’d rather him not playing at all than give me these spuddy 50 and 60 scores and cost me critical cash league wins…

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Game Chat – Richmond v Hawthorn

Written by Thommo on February 27 2016

NAB 2

Holm Park Recreation Reserve, Beaconsfield VIC at 4:40pm

THE BURNING QUESTIONS

RICH: Is Deledio fit? He hasn’t played a NAB cup game yet!

HAW: Is Daniel Howe the real deal?

SUPERCOACH WATCH

RICH: Menadue, Ellis and Townsend of the rookies and Conca as a mid-price forward.

HAW: Howe (of course), Birchall, Brand and perhaps Hartung but there is not a lot of value otherwise. Hawks fans will be interested to see big Shem-Kelvin Tatupu, Pittonet, Langford (the other one), Lovell, Jermaine Miller -Lewis and Miles get a run.

Do any other players take your fancy?

THE SQUADS

RICHMOND TIGERS

  • 1 Nick Vlastuin
  • 2 Dylan Grimes
  • 4 Dustin Martin
  • 5 Brandon Ellis
  • 7 Ben Lennon
  • 8 Jack Riewoldt
  • 9 Trent Cotchin
  • 10 Shane Edwards
  • 11 Jake Batchelor
  • 14 Bachar Houli
  • 15 Andrew Moore
  • 17 Daniel Rioli
  • 18 Alex Rance
  • 20 Ivan Maric
  • 21 Jacob Townsend
  • 23 Kane Lambert
  • 25 Troy Chaplin
  • 26 Anthony Miles
  • 28 Taylor Hunt
  • 30 Reece Conca
  • 31 Oleg Markov
  • 32 Corey Ellis
  • 33 Kamdyn McIntosh
  • 34 Liam McBean
  • 37 Connor Menadue
  • 38 Steven Morris
  • 41 Mabior Chol
  • 45 Jayden Short
  • 46 Jason Castagna

HAWTHORN HAWKS

  • 3 Jordan Lewis
  • 4 Billy Hartung
  • 6 Josh Gibson
  • 7 Ben McEvoy
  • 8 Taylor Duryea
  • 9 Shaun Burgoyne
  • 10 Bradley Hill
  • 11 Brendan Whitecross
  • 12 James Frawley
  • 13 Jonathan O’Rourke
  • 14 Grant Birchall
  • 17 Angus Litherland
  • 20 Dallas Willsmore
  • 21 James Sicily
  • 23 Tim O’Brien
  • 25 Ryan Schoenmakers
  • 26 Liam Shiels
  • 28 Paul Puopolo
  • 30 Kaiden Brand
  • 32 Jack Fitzpatrick
  • 33 Cyril Rioli
  • 36 Kieran Lovell
  • 37 Blake Hardwick
  • 41 Daniel Howe
  • 42 Teia Miles
  • 43 Marc Pittonet
  • 45 Jermaine Miller-Lewis
  • 46 Lachlan Langford
  • 47 Shem-Kalvin Tatupu

 

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  1. I thought Sicily or O’Brien might be rookie options but Hardwick and Lovell looked far better! At most clubs Lovell would earn a game in round 1.

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  2. FULL TIME SCORES

    RICHMOND

    Jack Riewoldt 153

    Anthony Miles 124

    Dustin Martin 118

    Bachar Houli 116

    Alex Rance 113

    Trent Cotchin 109

    Jacob Townsend 108

    Shane Edwards 107

    Brandon Ellis 105

    Connor Menadue 101

    Kane Lambert 81

    Ivan Maric 78

    Dylan Grimes 76

    Andrew Moore 75

    Daniel Rioli 60

    Reece Conca 59

    Ben Lennon 56

    Nick Vlastuin 52

    Jake Batchelor 50

    Troy Chaplin 37

    Corey Ellis 34

    Kamdyn McIntosh 28

    Mabior Chol 28

    Taylor Hunt 15

    Oleg Markov 9

    HAWTHORN

    Liam Shiels 92

    Taylor Duryea 88

    Jordan Lewis 86

    Josh Gibson 85

    Shaun Burgoyne 84

    Brendan Whitecross 76

    Ben McEvoy 74

    Paul Puopolo 70

    Daniel Howe 64

    Tim O’Brien 58

    Kaiden Brand 54

    James Frawley 53

    Jack Fitzpatrick 52

    Cyril Rioli 50

    Grant Birchall 49

    Blake Hardwick 46

    James Sicily 46

    Angus Litherland 41

    Kieran Lovell 41

    Dallas Willsmore 36

    Bradley Hill 33

    Jonathan O’Rourke 32

    Marc Pittonet 30

    Billy Hartung 27

    Ryan Schoenmakers 23

    Teia Miles 8

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  3. Connor Menadue played a couple of games last year for the Tigers after being pick 33 in the 2014 draft. Menadue looks a good value rookie priced @ 155k with mid / fwd dpp status. Currently my F7.

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  4. Lade made the comment recently that the reduction in the interchange cap from 120 to 90 will benefit some of the multi-faceted Richmond players.

    Should we be giving this much consideration when picking our SC Team? I hadn’t given it much thought but perhaps could be a factor in games with extreme weather conditions like the Port v Dees game where Hinkley limited the rotations and some KPPs may have fatigued.

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