2021 Forward Projections Group 2

Written by Father Dougal on March 8 2021

Hi Everybody!

Same warnings as always, this is me making up numbers based on semi-educated guess. But hopefully useful anyways. 

 

Jack Ziebell

Year Games Average Age TLA
2009 10 60.4 18
2010 14 62.3 19
2011 21 79 20
2012 16 81.1 21
2013 18 95.2 22 87
2014 17 83.6 23 88
2015 21 86.7 24 89
2016 22 94.5 25 89
2017 19 89.8 26 88
2018 22 84.5 27 88
2019 22 90.9 28 87
2020 8 48 29 86
84-92 85

As close to a must buy as we’re likely to see.  He has scored above 80 for eight year prior to 2020, and is priced at 48. That’s a minimum of 32 under and could be more. Unless he has lingering health issues, which as far as I know he does not, then he should bounce far back. He is 30, so in theory could have beer truck issues, but an 80 would be beer truck issues from his 2015-2019 scores.

 

Jordan De Goey

Year Games Average Age TLA
2015 16 59 18
2016 20 75.7 19
2017 14 79 20
2018 17 87.8 21 87
2019 16 87.2 22 88
2020 8 81 23 89
87-97 90

Just 24, and has only played 81 games.  Last year was, to be polite, rather messed up. Feels like 88ish is his established level and he could be getting better. The Pies do seem to need him to perform, and he will get the chance to. His reliable upside is about ten points, which is nice. Not thrilling, but nice. His possible upside is more like twenty points which is past nice. Pretty decent shot at a season keeper for a good discount. Not sure thing. 

 

Tom Hawkins

Year Games Average Age TLA
2007 9 51.9 18
2008 10 69.7 19
2009 21 71.5 20
2010 15 78.3 21
2011 15 69.6 22
2012 21 95.1 23 87
2013 20 66.7 24 87
2014 22 87.1 25 87
2015 19 79.7 26 87
2016 21 84.5 27 87
2017 19 86.2 28 87
2018 20 101.8 29 95
2019 22 85.6 30 95
2020 17 105.8 31 95
90-105 95

Wow, nice career high at 31. As a forward. My. Not gonna see that happen a lot. I strongly suspect he overperformed and will fall back some this season. It is possible he puts up a new career high at 32, he is a real talent so it’s not completely crazy. Of course that’s sort of like a frog hopping into the cab of the beer truck,  wrestling control from the driver, and heading off into the sunset with plans for an epic party. Probably could get a lot of Frogs feeling no pain with a truck full of beer. Anyways, It is a huge risk to start him, and I wouldn’t take it.  But, if he has a little run of bad scores I’d very much think about jumping on at that point. 

 

Joe Daniher

Year Games Average Age TLA
2013 5 50.6 19
2014 20 59.4 20
2015 22 60.7 21 60
2016 22 68.8 22 70
2017 22 86 23 85
2018 7 56.9 24 85
2019 4 62.2 25 85
2020 4 48.2 26 85
65-85 85

Ah, at last we come to Joe “The Groin Injury That Walks Like A Man” Daniher. So, first off, I can’t address his chances of getting injured again, at least not more than I just did. So, assuming he stays healthy, how well will he do?  At 23 he went for 86. Ok, at 27 he can probably go for 86. He could go a bit more. He does play for the Lions now, and they should be able to feed him the ball. He could also go for a lot less. As a Cow-like object, he just needs a short run of scoring at the right time to make decent cash. That means he has to play 3-4 rounds and then have a big score or two, without follow on terrible scores to undo the big ones. Certainly possible. If I knew he was healthy then I’d be willing to risk him. He has been playing over the last three years, so it isn’t like he was out of the game for all that time. I suppose I am saying he should perform around his established level as long as he is healthy. 

 

Tom Phillips

Year Games Average Age TLA
2016 6 65.5 19 65
2017 18 75.9 20 75
2018 22 90.1 21 85
2019 22 83 22 85
2020 15 74.9 23 85
85-95 85

If his 2018 average of 90 was a fluke, I don’t think it was a big one. He is just 24 now, and with a new team that is likely to play him every match as best 18. Going back to his 2018 level seems quite possible and going past it seems likely, since 24 v 21. Like De Goey, the question is how underpriced is he? Certainly a good option.

 

Jarman Impey

Year Games Average Age TLA
2014 18 48.6 18
2015 17 52.4 19
2016 20 62.3 20 60
2017 19 61.1 21 64
2018 22 68.3 22 68
2019 17 74.1 23 72
2020 5 39.6 24 72
65-75 72

Hmm. Career high average of 74 at age 23. Not super exciting. But, he is currently priced at a 40 average, and that’s a long way below 74. Or 70.  I may be talking myself into him.  If he goes at 60, that, not great but not terrible and again, only needs a good high score at the right time. Probably won’t average as well or peak as high as Danier, but he also doesn;t have that injury history. 

 

Orazio Fantasia

Year Games Average Age TLA
2014 3 31.3 18
2015 5 65.2 19 65
2016 19 69.6 20 70
2017 19 73.5 21 75
2018 13 83.3 22 80
2019 14 57.9 23 80
2020 5 56.2 24 80
70-90 80

I had mentally written him off and very recently said something like, “Will never be on my team.”  Now I look at his numbers and am having to rethink. He is priced at 51. At Port, I can see him going back up to 84, or a bit higher. That is, in fact, enough to make $150k, which means he needs to be considered. Not traditionally durable, but  better than Daniher. Is only 25, so again has natural upside. Has only played 78 games, so still room to find out he’s better than he has shown. I can’t believe how many decent sheep options there are forward this year. No, I can it is a result of a shorter season and short quarters, lots more variation in results with smaller data samples….

 

Michael Walters

Year Games Average Age TLA
2009 3 50 18
2010 3 65.3 19
2011 3 54 20
2012 8 75.6 21
2013 18 88.9 22
2014 6 79.2 23
2015 20 81.4 24
2016 22 78.6 25
2017 17 87 26 90
2018 18 87.8 27 93
2019 22 100.8 28 95
2020 14 98.9 29 95
90-100 93

 

 

 

Thanks for reading!

 

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7 thoughts on “2021 Forward Projections Group 2”

  1. Big question i guess is how crazy can our fwd line look before it looks too crazy? I’ve currently got Ziebell at F2. Am I mad??

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    1. Nope, since letting cows (and cow-like objects) determine your structure is one of the rules of Cow-quisition. The only issues i s missing discount premiums!

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  2. Got Phillips at F3 but at that price i need him to be a keeper. So an average of 90+. Who will average better do we think, Phillips or DeGoey.

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    1. Im concerned about phillips inside role once omeara and mitchell return he will be pushed out to a wing and not as SC friendly.
      De Goey im concerned about his body and off field issues atm affecting his football.

      Tough call. Phillips ahead just

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  3. Great write up 🙂
    Phillips currently locked at F2 but considering De Goey.
    Trying very hard too not do it but treloars minutes are jordan’s and will rest forward and hopefully kick goals…

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    1. I’m with you and can see himself elevating himself this season.

      He was very impressive the other night and the thing that impressed me the most was when they interviewed Taylor Adams and he said that De Goey will be playing predominantly midfield this season.

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