G’day team,
Few adjustments from my last draft.
Got rid of Rachele and used the cash to “upgrade” Dawson to Ridley, Neale to Titch.
J.Lloyd, J. Crisp, J. Ridley,
J. Sinn, L. Aleer, N. O’Driscoll
(G. McDonagh, J.Burgoyne )
J. Macrae, J. Steele, C. Oliver, M. Bontempelli, T. Mitchell,
JHF, N. Daicos, J. Ward
( C. Stephens, G. Clark, C. Parker)
M. Gawn, D. Grundy (S. Hayes)
J. Dunkley, Z. Butters, S. Coniglio,
J. Amiss, F. Maginess, A. De Koning
( E. Hollands, S. Skinner)
$9500 left in the bank which is not too much for my liking.
Now, logically there’s more value in Neale and Dawson, that combined with downgrading the Bont to Neale again could give me more cash to be used around now or when upgrading starts.
It’s just that I have this gut feeling that both the Bont and Titch will fire from the get go.
I’ve also played around with a 4 mids structure and that would give me 2 more premos overall adding one both in defence and forward, plus Cogs as my only gamble.
It’s just so unsettling to see 4 premo mids, is it just me?
Any feedback, good or less good, always welcome.
Massimo
Agree with you Massimo on the look of only 4 premium mids – it looks dodgy. I get that the premium rookie crop is good, but how many is a good balance between points and cash generation?
Is a 3, 6, 2, 1 structure viable, with premium rookies in DEF & MID spots, but a couple of the cheap mid pricers instead of premium rookies in the FWD line?
The reason I ask is that I look at last year’s OA leaderboard and you get to #36 before a FWD appears – it’s Taranto – who no-one is going to start. Next is the big Hawk at #44, then Charlie Dixon at #58.
Agree wholeheartedly that it’s a big risk not starting Dunkley FWD, and maybe even Butters, but when the aim of the SC game is to get as many players in you team at the top of the leaderboard – I feel like I need a recap on structure from the SCT guns. Can help me out with my understanding of why this kind of team is a bad idea: –
Lloyd, Crisp, Whitfield, Sinn, Chesser, Perez (McGuinness, Gould)
Because whilst you feel like you’re cashing in in the midfield, you’re missing out on the best rookie scores on field and replacing them with shit scores from rookies in defence and up forward. eg a mid premium 130 a defence rookie 40 VS mid rookie 70 defence premium 105
Thanks CtheHman,
So roughly the same scores, but the upside is more cash growth.
Then I’m assuming that extra cash gets you the mid you could otherwise have started with. Meaning, you need to nail your def and fwd premium starting selections, right?
Does this strategy work on the premise that the quality of fwd and def rookies won’t generate enough cash for premium upgrades on those lines?
Thank the SuperCoach Gods it’s footy season,
I can now come out of hibernation (isolation).
First of all , good luck to everyone involved in
this mind bending, psychological , gut wrenching
sleep depriving ,time consuming,hair pulling, nail biting game.
Anyway my question is:
Will Luke Dunstan have any impact on Petracca or Olivers scoring.
Thanks
No, Dunstan won’t negatively impact Satan and Racca. In fact, probably helps them. He’ll come in as that 3rd MID to provide defensive body and presence to Melbourne’s on ball brigade.
Feel like he’s depth tbh – Oliver, Trac, Viney with Harmes and Sparrow as support. If one goes down Dunstan offers a ready-made solution rather than shuffling the magnets.
The main reason was to ‘follow the rookies’. Flynn seemed like the rookie with the highest scoring capability, so it made sense to have him onfield. I seem to remember there was an issue with Grundy not liking the hubs, so I faded him, although the decision was more around getting Flynn onfield.
Started with Gawn, Meek and Flynn.
As backup, I ran with DPP Fullarton as a FWD rookie. So before the season had even started, I’d compromised a precious FWD rookie spot of the high-risk/low-reward selection of Fullarton.
I had four rucks in my team and by round 5, three had been dropped – copped a donut.
With little funds generated by Meek or Fullarton, my only option for round 6 was R/F Treacy – coming off scores of 35 and 16. In he came at R2, scored 22, and got dropped.
Still with little funds and no R2 for round 7, I paid $202k for R/F Thilthorpe – a huge price for a young tall forward rookie.
Thilthorpe was actually ok, but his elevated starting price meant it still took him to round 15 to make decent money. He also tonned up at an awkward time which meant carrying him through his bye – and another donut – to maximise his cash.
By this point it’s round 17 and Grundy has been carrying an injury and still ~$600k. But Goldstein has been smashing it with fives tons in the last six, and quietly become the second highest scoring ruckman and seems value at $573k. So Todd comes into the team and three of his last five games are sub 100, including two 70s.
So to recap, JUST so I could get a value R2 in Flynn, the flow-on effect was having five (5!) additional players I didn’t want, wasting three trades (maybe four…), two donuts and compromised cash generation from four rookies. That doesn’t even factor in the countless points I lost having to field Meek, Treacy, Thilthorpe and even Goldy.
To top it off, in round one I fielded Meek (43) over Flynn (140).
He did jag two back-to-back good scores! However outside of that, he only had two other scores over 40, with plenty of 20s and 30s, and definitely wasn’t the onfield option I needed.
As others have said GD, you can’t play this season like it was last season – past performance isn’t a guarantee of future performance and all that…
I could’ve gone Hickey then NicNat and been laughing.
The main take-away for me was once things didn’t go to plan (ie: Flynn got dropped/rested and Meek/Hunter didn’t play) it was extremely difficult to fix, and forced me into a string of less-than-ideal trades.
With only 3 spots there’s not much wriggle room in the rucks.
You’ll be fine this year if you start with Witts R2 Edwards R3 and jackson and comben in fwd line. Do that and it wont matter when Darcy blows a foofer valve, max averages 80 and nic nat has a few weeks rest
Which is the Lambo?
From experience I can tell you that a Lambo’s performance is useless on all but the flattest of flat tracks, they break down if you hit a pothole and, they catch fire if you work them hard and then don’t drive in clean air for 30 minutes to cool them.
I’ve seen 2nd hand Kia’s on oodnadatta track, jump gutters in shopping centres and climb Mt hotham in winter without chains.
If you think Preuss will make $80k more than Comben or Hayes by ~R7, then definitely.
If Comben gets to $250,000 by R7, making $125,000 on his starting price, Preuss will need to be over $400,000 to justify the extra $80k on the initial investment.
Of course if there isn’t a playing rookie R3, it’s a whole different story.
Tend to agree, however it’s more how long he takes to do it. Based on evidence, it seems reasonable to think GWS will rest him every 4-5 weeks, so you could wait half a season for that $200k.
Preuss is capable of monster scores, and like Pittonet did a couple of years ago, could make $200k in 5 weeks. Just seems unlikely to string games together based on how Cameron managed an injury-prone ruckman plus two developing rucks last year.
Finally, here is my fourth draft so far.
DEF: Lloyd, Whitfield, Sicily, Kelly, O’Driscoll, (Gould, Uwland)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Titch, Neale, JHF, Daicos, Hollands, (Stephens, Sinn, Clark)
RUC: Gawn, Darcy, (Preuss)
FWD: Dunkley, Butters, Rayner, Cogs, Rachele, De Koning, (Maginness, Parker)
I am really happy with my rookies with almost all of them playing multiple positions. I quite like the structure, though my forward line isn’t great. I am not at all happy with my premium players, and some advice on that and anything else is much appreciated.
My team at the moment
Crisp Ridley Short W Kelly De Koning Gould McDonagh Dean
MaCrae Steele Oliver Walsh Neale N Daicos Sinn Maginness O’Driscoll G Clark Uwland
Darcy Grundy Hayes
Dunkley Duncan Butters Coniglio Hollands Comden Skinner C Parker
Thoughts?
I personally think his body will struggle to play out the whole year so it’s why I’m not picking him this year. I think next season he’ll be better equipped.
Interested to hear some thoughts on Mclugage?
I think he had a good season last year, and is ready to explode this year, apparently tearing up the track so far pre season.
On Preuss v Hayes, it’s a matter of selection and confirmation of the #1 ruck role.
Port spoken very highly of Hayes (see: http://supercoachtalk.com/2022-team-preview-port-adelaide/) but hard to see how he dislodges Lycett right off the bat. Probably gets a run if Lycett’s work rate tails off and he’s been pressing in the SANFL. Hayes doesn’t have the FWD dimension to his game to play as a 1-2, will need to force his way in.
On Preuss, who f*ckin’ knows lol. No word on his training load and no confirmation of the #1 ruck at GWS. Will have selection roulette with Flynn and Briggs most weeks and probably has a managed fixture. If he is match fit and play he can do 80s and make decent coin, just a matter of how long it takes.
If you can, give your team the flexibility to be able to go up from Hayes to Preuss if he’s named Round 1. That’s what I’m doing rn. Hayes R3, 80k ready if Preuss walks up. If not, then Hayes will eventually play and can sit at R3.
i have no idea how you justify Pruess at R3 over Bailey Williams.
Williams has been essentially guaranteed playing time and will be solo ruck if Nic Nat misses games. plus his DPP means you can switch him fwd if Hayes is a late starter when Hayes is on the bubble.
Meanwhile Pruess is at GWS and they are loaded with 3 good rucks.
Sorry in hindsight that came across more hostile then i intended. you in that sentence was meant to refer to any supercoach player as opposed to you specifically.
I have seen Williams name pop up online on a few podcasts/articles. Currently 1% ownership. so he’s on the radar and i would expect that to rise significantly before the season starts
Max Lynch is very interesting. Hawks threw the kitchen sink at him despite Reeves. Which is troubling for Reeves fans but might make for a great handcuff R2/R3
I don’t know why anybody would have Oscar mac as the starting R2. Last year was his best ever and he wasn’t a top 10 ruck and this year Darcy fort will be taking 50 points off him every week.
I looked at those two as an actual combo, but the r14 bye for both scared me off…I’m currently Grundy and Witts…Witts might end up Draper if Witts doesn’t come up.
Version 3
Would appreciate comments on selections & structure.
I have selected team based on a 3x5x2x3 premium players who I hope, baring injury are all keepers with the remaining player being rookies. The rookies that I currently have in my side all appear to have reasonable chance of getting a game early in the season. Obviously the preseason rounds will dictate just who gets to play.
Many of my selections are MPP which gives a lot of flexibility & coverage for injury or covid issues.
Defence: Lloyd, Crisp (D/M), Ryan,
Chesser (D/M), Kelly (D/F), McGinness (D/F)
Emerg: McDonagh, Dean
Mids: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Mitchell
Neale, Cogniglio (M/F, O’Driscoll (M/D), Roberts
Emerg: J Clarke (M/F), G Clark, Uwland M/D)
Rucks: Gawn, Grundy
Emerg: Hayes
Fwds: Dunkley (F/M), Duncan (F/M), Martin (F/M)
Hollands (F/M), De Koning (F/D), Comden (F/R)
Emerg: Butler (F/M), Parker (F/M)
Dependant upon preseason form Martin could become one of many other options that I could use.
Depending on Form and How much you have in the bank, I would look at trading dusty, moving cogs down forward and getting either a defender or Midfielder via Kelly DPP
Getting serious, with this team likely to be close.
Lloyd Ridley Whitfield Sicily W Kelly McDonagh (Skinner/Dean)
Macrae Oliver Walsh Neale JHF N Daicos Ward Hobbs (M Roberts G Clark C Parker)
Grundy Witts (B Williams)
Dunks Dusty DeGoosey Butters Gogs Hollands (Comden N Long…c loop)
Def rookies up for grabs, but like the look elsewhere. Could have two rucks playing each of the byes. Really sold on the B Williams/Comden choices as both looking likely to play as r2 in their teams and both have dpp….great flexibility.
Only 4 premo mids but still reckon there is 13 keepers to start, 14 if Witts can hold his spot as my r2. If he doesn’t come up, its Draper instead.
Looks pretty serious. The Witts situation needs monitoring, but if he’s good i’m all over it. If he doesn’t, I’d be closely monitoring Reeves.
I wouldn’t choose Dusty, but he could make a successful return to relevance.
Dunks is classic forced into it due to lack of alternatives.
There are plenty of cheap forwards and Rowell, but you can’t take advantage of him as you’re already at 3 3/4 in the mid, so any change in Rucks requires chopping Dusty, Whits or Sicily.
There seems a lot of POTENTIAL cheap rookies down back, so the possibility of upgrading a ruck to Big O or Darcy for dropping a risky premo in Whits/Sicily seems ok.
I’m not sold on Ward and Hobbs both being there round 1 so that might solve the conundrum for you.
Def: Lloyd Hall Dawson WKelly O’Driscoll Skinner (Dean, Worner loophole)
Mid: Macrae Steele Oliver Neale Berry/Gresham JHF Daicos Ward (Smith, Johnson, Clark)
Rucks: Darcy Grundy (Hayes)
Fwd: Dunks Duncan Taranto Cogs Amiss Hollands (De Koning, Pedlar)
43k in bank
Gone for strong forward line due to there being plenty of midfield rookies that look to play and score early, obviously all rooks are subject to selection R1 and premo structure changing with which rookies play. Would love to hear thoughts!
Nice looking team Bray.
Personally, I’ll be running with 5 premo MIDs for now.
However, if you do choose to go with 4 to strengthen other lines (don’t hate the idea), I think you really need to go 4 uber premos.
Neale is good value if he can get back to this best, but still looks more risky than the 600+k mids. If you can find the $$, I’d try to get to one of Walsh, Titch etc
Hey folks,
There wasn’t anywhere to post this so I’ll just post it here: I’m about to have the first draft of a keeper league with a mate, we’ve got two dud teams in the league as well. We’re doing most points, quite a big team, and I’ve never done a draft before. Is there any spreadsheet or tactic I need to use?
TU – Sicily D4
TD- Day D4
Picking Sicily means I consider him a keeper so wouldn’t a mid-pricer be more appropriate as there are other players I would want over Sicily?
Cheers
A number of good defender options this year….but who to pick at the start? Besides some obvious choices already well canvassed, I find I need to manage cash a bit better and I’m on the lookout for a defensive breakout
The question for the SCT brains trust – do we think any young guns are on the verge of picking up an extra 5 to 20pts a year- that can get cheap now? Who are the improvers? A number of names below – and I know we are all looking for that golden nugget in each line to save cash and bring in points….maybe a poll or separate thread?
Nick Hind
Cummings
Salem
Short
Dale
Weitering
Day
Quaynor
Stack
Ash (D/M)
Touhy (D/M)
Moore
Firstly Short is already considered a Defensive Premo. He also has upside due to a higher average without Houli. He’s still in only 8% of sides and as someone who’s owned him the last two years he is a solid if not spectacular selection. He should still challenge for top 8 defender though.
Touhy has been ‘fringe ” Premo before when playing HB, but his role changes too much for him to be considered these days
Dale
Salam
Hind
Cummings
All kind of “broke out” last year. They seem to have pretty solid roles and scope for some more improvement. I think they could all prove handy as a D6 at years end.
The problem I have is, they all have pretty low floors and none are really sufficiently discounted to be worth a starting position. The low floors mean they will probably be cheaper at some stage during the year. This makes them more upgrade targets than starting selections.
Weitering and Moore both have scoring power, and will have great games where they take a heap of contested marks. They both are forced to play lock down “tall ” too often. This means their scoring will also fluctuate a heap. Not really SC relevant in my book.
Quaynor
Stack
Day
Ash.
All these guys could be SC starts in the future. There is just not many breakouts each year, and they all seem a little young still to get the kind of roles that can produce Premium SC scoring. Stack seems to have off field issues , Day’s body keeps letting him down.
Ash and Quaynor seem the most likely, as I said though they would probably need an injury to a more senior teammate, before being given enough responsibility to truly be SC relevant.
Maybe not a breakout to premium status, but certainly one to put on the watchlist is Daniel Rioli. JSG and Toland’s Tools have already pitched him – he came out after the bye in 2021 at HB and averaged 79.4 in his last 7 games, even with a couple of stinkers at 49 & 54. When priced at 61.7 pts, it’s looking like unders by $96k if he keeps that role. Probably more if he’s been training there all off-season.
I think there’s too many unknowns with Rioli at this stage.
He has never been a consistent performer and until recently was dropped several times . He only really had the HB role late last year.
Even with that opportunity, he still had a few stinky scores as you mentioned. The Tigers have recruited a few young backs so I’m not sure if Rioli retains his role at this stage.
Also with someone like Rioli you need to be confident they can outscore a rookie by quite a bit. ( at least 20-25 points ) If not that $200k difference could be used elsewhere in your team to great effect. For mine Rioli is not really a starting pick. If he starts on fire there may be chance to pick him up before price changes anyway.
Roger that. Thanks FT. I know a couple of die hard tiger lifers who think there’s something there, so I’ll park it as one to watch in the early rounds.
A bit too Forward heavy and a few too many Midpricers for my liking. This leaves you short a least 1 midfield Premo. The midfield Premo’s are the highest scorers and also great Captains options. I would want to start four at the very least.
Try dropping H Young ( unlikely to improve enough this year to be a keeper, and he’s also injury prone. ) down to a rookie Kemp / Sinn / Perez. Then drop Rayner or Degoey to Maguiness / Rachell.
This should free up enough cash to turn Rowell or Berry into a Titch / Walsh / Oliver.
Cheers. I went slightly differently downgrading Berry to Erasmus and upgrading Young to Crisp, but hey, still means one more rookie and one more premo intead of two midpricers. I couldn’t quite buy up to a midfielder more expensive than Brayshaw.
I think we may need to pay up a bit for the rookies this year to assure JS. You may need to re-jig that backline to include guys like Kemp/Perez / Sinn.
I also think you’re putting a bit too much faith in a few old guys to get back to their best. Dusty , Duncan and Danger are all coming off injury affected seasons and at their age’s its asking a lot for them to fire early. I would consider dropping one or two for some young blood with upside.
PS Pruess is a pipe dream,I wouldn’t start him. If he puts up 2 good scores and retains the role he is an easy corrective trade.
I would put in Comben he looks to be getting a game at North and his DPP should come in handy at some stage.
I definitely hear you regarding defence. Hopefully a couple of rookie defenders under $200K get named in round 1 otherwise Milera & Coleman are going to become very popular.
I understand your concern regarding picking oldies like Dangerfield but I pay close attention to types of preseasons they are having.
I am tipping Dusty to have a potentially Brownlow standard season. Duncan could quite easily fall out of my team as I am keen on De Goey.
Using Preuss same as Flynn last year – purely a money making exercise . I have since put Comben in the forwards although I cant see Noble playing CCJ, Comben & Larkey in the one forward line.
I thought last year was bad for ‘intrigue’ regarding rookies but this season seems worse.
I think it was HS or Fox Footy named its best 22 for each club for round 1. I counted about 4 rookies including JHF & Daicos so we may all be scrambling or have multiple donuts sitting on the bench.
Cheers and good luck this season.
Hey lads first proper team of the season:
Upon realising there are plenty of good midfield rookies and hardly any good backline ones I’ve gone for 4 premiums in the backline and 4 instead of 5 in the mid. Give me any suggestions:
Back: Lloyd, Ridley, Whitfield, Sicily, Coleman (apparently tracking well watch in preseason), wanganeen-milera (Kelly, o’driscoll)
Yeh had a good think about it mate and I might still change it up but the backline rookies are just not it. Thanks for the suggestion thought dusty might have a big year and be hungry but ur probably right Dunkley is the better option
Get De Goey up FWD. He’s of more value getting a FWD rookie off field and you need that spot for a MID rookie, which looks to be the strongest crop so far. Personally not a fan of the Caldwell pick, just think he won’t get a solid enough MID role – but that’s up to you.
Once you’ve got De Goey up FWD, you’ll have 2 premos and 4 mid-pricers on field. As sexy as that is, I’d consider merging two of those mid-pricers for Dunks. He’s just a must have.
Otherwise, it looks really solid. Some depth up forward and down back is looking like the play this season.
Not the finished team but one i like, cumming could be turned into another forward premium like degoey, thomas or buttler but the lack of good rookies coming thru i like this pick, swapped walsh for titch becuause of the likely tagging issue for walsh.
My team 2 effort
Stewart Hall Crisp Ridley Kemp WKelly McDonagh Dean
McCrae Steele Miller Oliver Neale Daicos Sinn McGinness O’driscoll Uwland Clark
Darcy Grundy Hayes
Dunkley Cogs Curnow Hollands De Koning Comden Skinner Parker
Forward line looking a bit average but happy with the keepers.
I would look at Grundy to Mcinerney and using the money to upgrade Sinn and Maginess to JHF and Ward, and maybe keeping Sinn down back and getting rid of Kemp
Shiel is not a keeper and won’t really generate enough money to trade him sideways to a premium over 500k. I would look at getting another midfield rookie for shield and then using the cash to get an upgrade Curtis to someone keidean Coleman, Curnow and a bench upgrade or even Sam Darcy if you think he will play
Apparently Finlayson will be splitting his time as 2nd ruck while resting up forward.
Where does that leave Hayes?
Does that mean Pruess or Comden become r3
I would consider dropping one of your premiums in the midfield for Dunkley down forward and then use the spare change to upgrade the other premiums and mid pricers
Bit of an odd bunch in the middle with Cripps and Taylor Adams? You have probably gone a bit to heave on mid pricers because you only have 4 rookies starting, which isn’t great for cash gen. I would suggest swapping a few mid pricers out for some rookies and then using the spare change to upgrade Cripps and Duncan and Taylor Adams to better options.
Not been hearing anything about Witts. While I do like him as a pick – obvious potential cash growth, reliable scoring, previously good durability – it really does make it difficult to build a side around him for round 1 if the few leaks we get are that he might be racing the clock for recovery.
All we can do is wait for the preseason matches. For similar price, if need be, you can restructure around Draper, Jackson or Reeves. All 3 clearly have upside as well, possibly even higher for Draper without the risk of injury recovery.
This is why I shifted away from Witts – a combination of lack of data about his recovery, and greater potential upsides with mid price players elsewhere on the field who we ARE hearing really good reports about in preseason match sims.
Alrighty, here’s a look at what I’ve got at the moment (with a few pointers)
DEF: Lloyd, Short, Whitfield, Sicily, Kemp, Kelly (McDonagh, Dean)
– Lloyd is the obvious no-brainer. Short should truly shine now that Houli won’t be coming back, his average is way better when he’s not there. Whitfield’s had a full pre-season so far, and should be back to his best. Sicily is looking strong in his sim matches. He’s averaged over 100 twice, so he’s definitely tempting. Will see how the rest of his pre-season goes before making the final decision, but he’s in for now. Kemp looks like he’ll fit into the Blues side with Jones retiring and Docherty being out with his cancer recovery, with Newman and Marchbank in doubt too for Rd.1. Should give him enough time at least to generate some cash and peak out, assuming he starts Rd.1. Kelly and McDonagh look good for early rookie debuts too, in a season where there isn’t many good options in the defence at the moment. Don’t know a lot about Dean from the Pies, but he’s one of the cheapies.
– Macrae has been my first picked player for the last 3 years. Averaged over 121 since 2018, you can’t go wrong with the fella. Barely ever scores under 100 too, so he’s too consistent to pass up in my opinion. Walsh will be in the top 5 players this year, with almost no doubt in my mind. Going for Wines the Brownlow boy, also a highly consistent scorer. Neale’s looking fresh and about back to his prime fitness, so he’s an absolute bargain. I went for De Goey at M5, was in my forward line originally. He averaged around 110 since his midfield move halfway last year. No doubt he’ll stay there this year and onwards, should peak somewhere between $550-600k and make a good M7/M8 at the end of season (not to mention it gives you more flexibility to sub with all the DPPs in the forward line when needed). JHF and Daicos are no-brainers for mid rookies. Ward I heard from Hawks fans is the kind of rookie they’ve been wanting for a few years and should be straight into their best 22 and playing Rd.1. Clark is massive chance to start Rd.1 too, O’Driscoll should start early as well. Tsitas I don’t know when he’ll start, but I know his SC average in the SANFL was massive. Plus he’s the Magarey Medal winner, so that should say something about his reputation.
RUC: Darcy, Naitanui (Hayes)
– I went with the two WA giants. Not only because they’re a POD premium duo, but their bye rounds don’t clash either! Hayes I’ve heard is turning heads and could climb up the pecking order for Port talls. We’ll have to wait and see what happens there.
FWD: Dunkley, Butters, Rayner, Coniglio, Rachele, Hollands (De Koning, Parker)
– Obviously Dunkley’s only worries for me are his fitness. But I’m holding my hopes that he’ll stay good this year. Butters was my F3, but with the scarce options in the defences, I’m currently cutting my forward premos to two (with De Goey in the midfield as mentioned before). I have a small feeling he’ll breakout into an 100 player this year. Rayner’s looking strong and the team have taken notes on his tackle breaks and effiency off both feet. Some good things to like there. Like Dunkley, Cogs’ injury history does concern me. But his pre-season has gone well so far, and at his price it’s very tempting. He’ll be in the same category as Sicily with seeing how the rest of the pre-season goes. Rachele and Hollands are looking like Rd.1 starters at this point. Don’t know much about De Koning or Parker, but I’ve seen them in a lot of sides. So I’m playing it safe.
$75,200 remaining.
Players I have been considering:
– KEIDAN COLEMAN
Coleman’s role change late last year is very mouth-watering as a cash cow option. And his sim match reports are showing he hasn’t left that role, which is a good sign.
– JADE GRESHAM
His number while playing in the midfield are definite breakout material. But his fitness will play as a factor, as well as if his role this year will be more mid-focused or more forward-focused.
– OSCAR MCINERNEY
Average for last year was only 93, thanks to his earlier rounds. But his numbers in the second half of last year were premo material. Only worry for me is hearing that there’s a potential sharing of duties with Darcy Fort, which will be not good for his number if they decided to follow through with that.
– CHARLIE CONSTABLE
Geelong letting this fella go could be like when Adelaide let go of Jarryd Lyons (and Gold Coast for that matter). He’s definitely got the potential to make big numbers at club with a maturing midfield (Miller, Bowes, Rowell, Lukokus). With Brodie and Greenwood gone too, it definitely opens the door for him.
– CHARLIE CURNOW
Heard his fitness has been good, and his previous averages definitely put him as a cash cow. But does he have the potential to make more cash than other cash cow forwards around the same price (Cogs, Gresham, Coleman, Rayner, assuming they keep fit too). All those guys are DPP players and have more room to score more, whereas Curnow is more limited to the forward line and that’s the main concern.
– JOSH GIBCUS
With Astbury gone, they’ll be looking for a big defender to take his spot. And Gibcus could be the man to go to. Two concerns however are him being more of a key defender, and secondly he’ll have other tall backs contending for that spot (like Miller). Although he could make a shift down forward after losing CCJ and Chol too, we’ll have a look at how his sim matches go.
– DUSTIN MARTIN
Dusty definitely wasn’t at his best last year. But from what I’ve heard from the grapevine, his fitness since returning from his kidney injury has been great. He’s lost about 15kg, so he should be running around with a bit more ease. Plus, he’s still one of the only near-premo forwards. And there hasn’t been many options with those in the last few years, so it won’t be like he’ll be an POD pick or anything.
Gday WW.
Can’t find much fault with this team or analysis.
One tiny nit-pick for me would be selection of Wines. Even in his best season where he won the brownlow (2021), twelve other MIDs out-averaged him.
With the bank you have left, I think switching to Titch or Laird has very little scope to be a move you regret, but both players have the ceiling to well outscore Wines.
Tarant came in to replace Astbury but Gibcus is going great guns in training and could still play early if Balta moves forward.
Likewise Fort is also tearing it up in Brisbane which would make me really nervous of selecting the big O.
Not sure there is a spot there R1 for Constable. Greenwood was injured in the backend of last year and Fiorini did really well as his replacement. Bowes has gone down injured but he didn’t play midfield last year. Plenty of competition for mid spots at the Suns.
the first draft of the year rip it apart
Lloyd, Hall, Crisp, S Darcy, Chesser, O’Driscoll (Mcdonah, Dean)
Macre, Steele, Oliver, Titch, Neale, JHF, Daicos, Clark (Stephens, Macdonald, Parker)
Darcy, Grundy (hayes)
Dunks, Butters, Gresham, Cogs, Hollands, Butler (Kelly, Comben)
I’d be wary of any Hawks RUCKs.
Reeves should be the priority, but Mcevoy being named captain indicates he’ll play, plus they’ve got a very top heavy FWD line (Lewis, Kosi, Jeka, Gunston).
Concerned Reeves will be a horses for courses selection, and Lynch similarly.
I realise that there are a ton of higher-priced rookies (or some that might even qualify as ‘midpricer’), which has reduced the number of Premos in the side (10). This approach however has players that may be more certain ‘best-22’, which is the intent I’m taking into this season. Once we start getting closer to the start of the season, my hope is that less expensive rookies have shown enough through the preseason and I’d be able to downgrade enough of these higher-priced rookies to upgrade to another 1-2 Premos prior to the bounce.
F: Dunkley, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, Brodie, Rachele (Hollands, De Koning)
$19.4k Bank
Appreciate the feedback; please take into account that the Premos are pretty locked (barring injury or a broken preseason), while there is flexibility with the rookies, and hopeful that 1-2 more Premos can be incorporated.
I guess where advice would be appreciated is comment on the higher-priced rookies, who they might be able to be downgraded to that have good JS.
The main thing i would do is trust your Mid rookies a bit more. If everything goes well you have good Cash gen, so maybe swap Constable for the 102k Suns rookie mid they just signed Tsitas. Gives you someone who will start as a loop and could make you a good amount of money if injury or Covid hits.
That also gives you an extra 100k for a midpricer upgrade to get another player in the 300k tier.
New Team after realising I don’t trust my rookies outside of the midfield, and want more guaranteed cash gen. I Swapped Titch for Rowell, upgrade my defence with Milera and stacked my bench with rookies who I hope will play.
The number 1 trade I would think about making is Rowell out for Clark, and start one of Erasmus or Hobbs. This would give me enough cash to upgrade either cogs or Milera to either Dusty or Whitfield. Pls, lmk if you think I should make this trade and if I should upgrade Milera or cogs. I would think cogs as my fwd line is the weakest line atm
Here is my team so far, rookies are a work in progress. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
DEF: Loyd, Rich, Dawson, Aleer, Dean, Wanganeen-Milera
EMG: McDonagh, Voss
don’t know if its the right call to have Thomas in the midfield… I reckon you downgrade him to either hollands, d.Stephens, josh ward and upgrade jackson to either big o or wither sam Darcy or grundy. Or you go the other route and upgrade a back liner to Sicily.
could also chuck cogs in the forward line for another midfield rookie
could also swap Martin treloar and heeney into dunks butters and curnow
just a few ideas but I reckon rest of the team is strong
p.s leave how much u have in the bank next time… its easier to see what changes are possible
witts is a good call, just have to see how his pre season is but his price and player selection make him a great value player to have in you the team if you want the extra cash
Draper does seem to be showing a bit in the match sims. Certainly on my watch list, and unlike Hickey, Goldstein, Marshall, Lycett, Big O and the Hawks options has a clear shot at the number 1 role.
Much as I wasn’t too convinced on the Darcy option it’s a safe way to park the cash in that at least if it fails you can downgrade with knowledge of the ruck status quo, and most of your competitors will face the same trade problem.
IMHO it isn’t really a winning strategy, more a neutralization strategy, and then you back your picks elsewhere on the field to pull off the win.
Pendles I see becoming a DPP mid/def very early on.
JFH to become fwd/mid very early on.
Hewett to provide extra defender coverage as I reckon we are going to need it.
The promise of extra midfield time for Martin, Butters & Heeney has tempted me.
Hopefully a few more cut price rookies make themselves known.
p.s. how do you create an avatar for when you make comments.
Great team, just a few positional issues. Crisp, Hewett and Pendles* should all be down back. Crisp and Hewett of more value down back as they’re getting a DEF rookie off the field (which it looks like we’ll be short on) and their scores will be more competitive relative to the Top 6 DEFs than the Top 8 MIDs.
We’ve got some great uber premo MID options and a solid crop of rookies coming through, so those spots should be for them.
Agree that Pendles likely gets DEF DPP and will score well but probably better to pick him up when that happens instead of starting him. Up to you though, could be a sage move – but definitely get Crisp and Hewett down back.
Preuss R2 is a death sentence. R3 maybe, but definitely not on R2 to start. I’d recommend checking out FT’s GWS Preview when it drops next week.
Really love the Ryan, Heeney and Butters picks. Dunks over Dusty for me though.
Def- Lloyd,Crisp,Sicily, Chesser, O’driscoll
Mcdonagh.(Boyd,Dean)
Mid- Steele,Titch,Petracca,Neale,Cripps,Rowell,
JHF,Daicos. (Hobbs,Clark,Tsitas)
Ruck- Gawn,Grundy.(Combden)
Fwd- Dunkley, Martin, Butters,Cogs,Kelly,
Parker. (Maginness,Holland)
64k left
It’s doing my head in already.
If only I had a cellar like Wighty.
Suggestions are most welcome.
Thanks
Been tossing and turning as everyone else has been with making their team and I think I am close to the final product (for now). Any opinions welcomed.
DEF –
LLOYD, RIDLEY, SHORT, WHITFIELD, ODRISCOLL, DEAN (MCDOANGH, UWLAND)
My main problem is you seem to be relying on too many $102k rookies.
I count 4 ( with Long ) I just can’t see us getting that many starting R1.
It’s much easier to drop a $123K player down to a $102K than the other way around.
With your current balance you can’t even afford to turn one $102K guy into a $117K player like MacDonald ( who looks like getting early games. )
It seems that the defensive Rookies likely to play are guys like Kemp / Perez / Sinn.
I would prefer if you managed to get one of Dean or Uwland up to one of these guys. This will make it much easier to manage your side with the last minute shuffling of rookies. Remember Rookies determine structure and playing Rookies with decent JS should be your top priority.
Simple fact is that you are gonna have to let a premo or one of cogs and coleman go to cover rookie depth, or lose one of the premo rookie mids like ward.
TBH I’d be waiting until we see teams for preseason contest.
The team looks good as is but no way this many 102k rookies play, so best to make the choices closer to time.
If you wait, sometimes these decisions get made for you.
Failing that you can downgrade someone to titch, or downgrade coleman to curnow. But for now I’d sit tight and let the preseason take it’s course.
It’s always a mad scramble for rookies before round 1, no matter your planning and structure.
Obviously this would be your preferred team, and if the rookies show up you can revert back to this side. When looking at a starting side at this stage flexibility is key. It really depends on your priorities of who you really want to start.
Some suggestions are downgrading Butters or T Thomas to a Rayner type.
Or you could look at Short or Whitfield to someone like Sicily ( if you like him ) or a Forward Midpricers like Rayner / Gresham, and moving K. Coleman back.
It may just be as simple as downgrading Oliver to a Titch or Walsh.
I would just look at a plan B if you need to fit in a few more expensive rookies.
I would not be so sure that Preuss has a lock on being first ruck. I have been informed that that role could be Flynn? Their coach likes his players being competitive for their position and the three are striving for first ruck.
As you mentioned last year. Flynn and Briggs were being managed throughout the year to aid their development and improve their craft with big mummy being an excellent coach.
Preuss could find himself being also managed throughout this year especially with his injury history.
It will interesting to observe the ruck contest and who prevails but as for Supercoach a risky conundrum that a cautious approach maybe needed.
As for JHF, by all reports he is flying. His coach issued a statement saying he was not in the current top 22 but needed to continue to work hard and improve. By his latest match sim, it could be concluded that that was more of don’t get ahead of yourself and a game is not a given. He spent more time forward in the latest sim with time in the mids. He looks a natural. He is expensive but maybe worth the extra cash as other high price rookies have shown in the pass.
As we all know the upcoming practice games will gleam further insight.
For what it is worth I voted for JHF.
Good luck with your season.
G’day team,
Few adjustments from my last draft.
Got rid of Rachele and used the cash to “upgrade” Dawson to Ridley, Neale to Titch.
J.Lloyd, J. Crisp, J. Ridley,
J. Sinn, L. Aleer, N. O’Driscoll
(G. McDonagh, J.Burgoyne )
J. Macrae, J. Steele, C. Oliver, M. Bontempelli, T. Mitchell,
JHF, N. Daicos, J. Ward
( C. Stephens, G. Clark, C. Parker)
M. Gawn, D. Grundy (S. Hayes)
J. Dunkley, Z. Butters, S. Coniglio,
J. Amiss, F. Maginess, A. De Koning
( E. Hollands, S. Skinner)
$9500 left in the bank which is not too much for my liking.
Now, logically there’s more value in Neale and Dawson, that combined with downgrading the Bont to Neale again could give me more cash to be used around now or when upgrading starts.
It’s just that I have this gut feeling that both the Bont and Titch will fire from the get go.
I’ve also played around with a 4 mids structure and that would give me 2 more premos overall adding one both in defence and forward, plus Cogs as my only gamble.
It’s just so unsettling to see 4 premo mids, is it just me?
Any feedback, good or less good, always welcome.
Massimo
Gidday Massimo, team looks good, but I would change Bonts to Neale
Agree with you Massimo on the look of only 4 premium mids – it looks dodgy. I get that the premium rookie crop is good, but how many is a good balance between points and cash generation?
Is a 3, 6, 2, 1 structure viable, with premium rookies in DEF & MID spots, but a couple of the cheap mid pricers instead of premium rookies in the FWD line?
The reason I ask is that I look at last year’s OA leaderboard and you get to #36 before a FWD appears – it’s Taranto – who no-one is going to start. Next is the big Hawk at #44, then Charlie Dixon at #58.
Agree wholeheartedly that it’s a big risk not starting Dunkley FWD, and maybe even Butters, but when the aim of the SC game is to get as many players in you team at the top of the leaderboard – I feel like I need a recap on structure from the SCT guns. Can help me out with my understanding of why this kind of team is a bad idea: –
Lloyd, Crisp, Whitfield, Sinn, Chesser, Perez (McGuinness, Gould)
Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Mitchell, Walsh, Neale, JHF, Stephens (O’Driscoll, Clark, Hamilton)
Darcy, Grundy (Akuei)
Dunkley, Cogs, Curnow, Maginness, Hollands, Comben (Kelly, Parker)
Because whilst you feel like you’re cashing in in the midfield, you’re missing out on the best rookie scores on field and replacing them with shit scores from rookies in defence and up forward. eg a mid premium 130 a defence rookie 40 VS mid rookie 70 defence premium 105
Thanks CtheHman,
So roughly the same scores, but the upside is more cash growth.
Then I’m assuming that extra cash gets you the mid you could otherwise have started with. Meaning, you need to nail your def and fwd premium starting selections, right?
Does this strategy work on the premise that the quality of fwd and def rookies won’t generate enough cash for premium upgrades on those lines?
How we going all, first list for the year.
J. Lloyd, J. Crisp, J.Dawson
S. Skinner, W.Gould, C.Dean
(S. De Koning, G. McD)
Macrae, Touk, Oliver, Walsh, Laird, JHF, N.Daicos, E. Hollands
(N. O’Driscoll, S.Butler, G.Clark)
S. Darcy, Grundy
(J. Williams)
Dunkley, Butters, Rayner
COGS, W.Kelly, J. Serong
(Rachele, C.Parker)
Of course, rookies subject to change.
Thank the SuperCoach Gods it’s footy season,
I can now come out of hibernation (isolation).
First of all , good luck to everyone involved in
this mind bending, psychological , gut wrenching
sleep depriving ,time consuming,hair pulling, nail biting game.
Anyway my question is:
Will Luke Dunstan have any impact on Petracca or Olivers scoring.
Thanks
Hey, Aces.
Good to see you around again.
No, Dunstan won’t negatively impact Satan and Racca. In fact, probably helps them. He’ll come in as that 3rd MID to provide defensive body and presence to Melbourne’s on ball brigade.
Honestly, it’ll be good for them.
Feel like he’s depth tbh – Oliver, Trac, Viney with Harmes and Sparrow as support. If one goes down Dunstan offers a ready-made solution rather than shuffling the magnets.
Does Cripps have any injuries he’s carrying and has he learnt to shake a tag
As someone that owned him the last 2 seasons and drove my household crazy by complaining about him.
Stay away!
Is Matty Rowell gonna get his confidence back from his shoulder injury. (Did Ablett get over it)
Will Dusty get his mojo back
Is Danger an irrelevant big sook
TU: D4 Ridley & M8 Clark
Means F2 Bailey, F3 Butters, F4 Cogs
TD: D4 Sinn & M4 Mitchell (pushes Neale M5 and Clark to bench)
Means F2 Butters, F3 Raynor, F4 Cogs
Cheers
In 2021 I went the Value R2 option.
The main reason was to ‘follow the rookies’. Flynn seemed like the rookie with the highest scoring capability, so it made sense to have him onfield. I seem to remember there was an issue with Grundy not liking the hubs, so I faded him, although the decision was more around getting Flynn onfield.
Started with Gawn, Meek and Flynn.
As backup, I ran with DPP Fullarton as a FWD rookie. So before the season had even started, I’d compromised a precious FWD rookie spot of the high-risk/low-reward selection of Fullarton.
I had four rucks in my team and by round 5, three had been dropped – copped a donut.
With little funds generated by Meek or Fullarton, my only option for round 6 was R/F Treacy – coming off scores of 35 and 16. In he came at R2, scored 22, and got dropped.
Still with little funds and no R2 for round 7, I paid $202k for R/F Thilthorpe – a huge price for a young tall forward rookie.
Thilthorpe was actually ok, but his elevated starting price meant it still took him to round 15 to make decent money. He also tonned up at an awkward time which meant carrying him through his bye – and another donut – to maximise his cash.
By this point it’s round 17 and Grundy has been carrying an injury and still ~$600k. But Goldstein has been smashing it with fives tons in the last six, and quietly become the second highest scoring ruckman and seems value at $573k. So Todd comes into the team and three of his last five games are sub 100, including two 70s.
So to recap, JUST so I could get a value R2 in Flynn, the flow-on effect was having five (5!) additional players I didn’t want, wasting three trades (maybe four…), two donuts and compromised cash generation from four rookies. That doesn’t even factor in the countless points I lost having to field Meek, Treacy, Thilthorpe and even Goldy.
To top it off, in round one I fielded Meek (43) over Flynn (140).
The Big Kahuna came good late season.
He did jag two back-to-back good scores! However outside of that, he only had two other scores over 40, with plenty of 20s and 30s, and definitely wasn’t the onfield option I needed.
Salient post Chips Ahoy!
Thank you for sharing.
All the best for 2022.
Lol. That read like a horror story, CA.
Thanks for sharing though, sure it will help many navigate the ruck sitch this season.
As others have said GD, you can’t play this season like it was last season – past performance isn’t a guarantee of future performance and all that…
I could’ve gone Hickey then NicNat and been laughing.
The main take-away for me was once things didn’t go to plan (ie: Flynn got dropped/rested and Meek/Hunter didn’t play) it was extremely difficult to fix, and forced me into a string of less-than-ideal trades.
With only 3 spots there’s not much wriggle room in the rucks.
Seems this year the main alternate strategies are Handcuffs to avoid Donuts
IE
R1 Gawn R2 Jackson. treat as 2 500k premo’s and hope they overpeform.
R2. Reeves R3 Lynch
r2/3 Martin/Sweet
You’ll be fine this year if you start with Witts R2 Edwards R3 and jackson and comben in fwd line. Do that and it wont matter when Darcy blows a foofer valve, max averages 80 and nic nat has a few weeks rest
Sounds like my 2021! Plus finding rookies in defense in rounds 4 to 8… ack.
TU: Darcy
TD: Preuss
This has probably peen posted elsewhere, if so sorry
Like comparing a Lambo and a used Kia
Also the price difference too
Which is the Lambo?
From experience I can tell you that a Lambo’s performance is useless on all but the flattest of flat tracks, they break down if you hit a pothole and, they catch fire if you work them hard and then don’t drive in clean air for 30 minutes to cool them.
I’ve seen 2nd hand Kia’s on oodnadatta track, jump gutters in shopping centres and climb Mt hotham in winter without chains.
Based on that I’d say that Preuss is the Lambo
Also, thoughts on Preuss as a bench player? Will screw up captaincy loophole but could bring in great cash.
If you think Preuss will make $80k more than Comben or Hayes by ~R7, then definitely.
If Comben gets to $250,000 by R7, making $125,000 on his starting price, Preuss will need to be over $400,000 to justify the extra $80k on the initial investment.
Of course if there isn’t a playing rookie R3, it’s a whole different story.
Why not have both?? Preuss R2 Comben F7/8
JS on both likely to be better than most fwd rookies if fit and performing
If I had Preuss the I would definitely have 2 cheap Fwd/R to toggle should Preuss not play.
If Preuss plays the he will make $200k. Hard to think that he won’t average under 80
Tend to agree, however it’s more how long he takes to do it. Based on evidence, it seems reasonable to think GWS will rest him every 4-5 weeks, so you could wait half a season for that $200k.
Preuss is capable of monster scores, and like Pittonet did a couple of years ago, could make $200k in 5 weeks. Just seems unlikely to string games together based on how Cameron managed an injury-prone ruckman plus two developing rucks last year.
can always loophole off the mids where Ned Long looks the goods with 102k dpp
Finally, here is my fourth draft so far.
DEF: Lloyd, Whitfield, Sicily, Kelly, O’Driscoll, (Gould, Uwland)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Titch, Neale, JHF, Daicos, Hollands, (Stephens, Sinn, Clark)
RUC: Gawn, Darcy, (Preuss)
FWD: Dunkley, Butters, Rayner, Cogs, Rachele, De Koning, (Maginness, Parker)
I am really happy with my rookies with almost all of them playing multiple positions. I quite like the structure, though my forward line isn’t great. I am not at all happy with my premium players, and some advice on that and anything else is much appreciated.
My team at the moment
Crisp Ridley Short W Kelly De Koning Gould McDonagh Dean
MaCrae Steele Oliver Walsh Neale N Daicos Sinn Maginness O’Driscoll G Clark Uwland
Darcy Grundy Hayes
Dunkley Duncan Butters Coniglio Hollands Comden Skinner C Parker
Thoughts?
3.0
4, 5, 2, 1.5
Def – Lloyd, Crisp, Ridley, Sicily, De Koning, O Driscoll ( Mcdonagh, Dean)
Mid – Steele, Mitchell, Walsh, Laird, Neale, JHF, Daicos, Ward ( Hollands, Clark, Uwland)
Ruck – Darcy, Grundy ( Akuei )
Fwd – Dunkley, Butters, Coniglio, Darcy, Magginess, Kelly ( Butler, Parker)
Rookies are obviously subject to change but I am pretty happy with the structure and the premiums. Pls lmk what you think could make it better
T/U – Butters to finish top 6-8
T/D – Butters to finish top 10-20
If you think he is 10-20 whereabouts in that range
Depends on whether you’re talking average or total score. The only sure thing with butters is that he will play less than 17 games
I personally think his body will struggle to play out the whole year so it’s why I’m not picking him this year. I think next season he’ll be better equipped.
Interested to hear some thoughts on Mclugage?
I think he had a good season last year, and is ready to explode this year, apparently tearing up the track so far pre season.
Missed the last intraclub, but attended the previous. Looks to be playing more on-ball and less on the wing.
TU Touk Miller
TD Sam Walsh
If you have Titch, go Walsh. if you don’t have Titch, got Touk.
This is because of the Sunday match timetable.
Just curious,
How many of us have not taken Whitfield with fear of injuries but still took Dunkley?
TU Guilty
TD It wasn’t me, I haven’t shown my team yet, so you can’t prove it……..
The difference is, there’s way more reliable Defenders than Forwards.
True. But Whitfield is 50k cheaper.
TU – Parish
TD – Laird
Laird for mine. Going under the radar it seems.
I’d much rather Zerrett over Parish.
Parish shown to be nullified when copping a tag unlike Zerrett who can easily break through and hit a respectable score.
Looking at my ruck stocks I currently have Darcy/Oscar Mc combo.
This might change but at the moment im happy with the extra cash it gives me to play around elsewhere.
They have the same Bye, should I be better off locking in a Preuss at R3? – currently have Hayes in hope he gets the No.1 spot early..
Tu: Preuss
Td: Hayes
Hey, Alex.
Got the exact same ruck combo rn.
On Preuss v Hayes, it’s a matter of selection and confirmation of the #1 ruck role.
Port spoken very highly of Hayes (see: http://supercoachtalk.com/2022-team-preview-port-adelaide/) but hard to see how he dislodges Lycett right off the bat. Probably gets a run if Lycett’s work rate tails off and he’s been pressing in the SANFL. Hayes doesn’t have the FWD dimension to his game to play as a 1-2, will need to force his way in.
On Preuss, who f*ckin’ knows lol. No word on his training load and no confirmation of the #1 ruck at GWS. Will have selection roulette with Flynn and Briggs most weeks and probably has a managed fixture. If he is match fit and play he can do 80s and make decent coin, just a matter of how long it takes.
If you can, give your team the flexibility to be able to go up from Hayes to Preuss if he’s named Round 1. That’s what I’m doing rn. Hayes R3, 80k ready if Preuss walks up. If not, then Hayes will eventually play and can sit at R3.
Don’t forget to monitor Max Lynch as well.
Thanks GD, good run down1
i have no idea how you justify Pruess at R3 over Bailey Williams.
Williams has been essentially guaranteed playing time and will be solo ruck if Nic Nat misses games. plus his DPP means you can switch him fwd if Hayes is a late starter when Hayes is on the bubble.
Meanwhile Pruess is at GWS and they are loaded with 3 good rucks.
I haven’t “justified” Preuss over Williams, just havent seen much on him this pre-season.
Nic Nat played every game last year, uninterrupted pre-season, so I don’t expect Bailey to be high on many people’s R3 thoughts.
Sorry in hindsight that came across more hostile then i intended. you in that sentence was meant to refer to any supercoach player as opposed to you specifically.
I have seen Williams name pop up online on a few podcasts/articles. Currently 1% ownership. so he’s on the radar and i would expect that to rise significantly before the season starts
Don’t think BJ scores well enough anyway.
2nd ruck, 3rd tall, already priced at 220k.
We’ve gotten Nic Nat’s management down pat, so wouldn’t count on him going down.
Will monitor BJ but on the hunt for an R3 playing as a #1 ruck. One might not even come through.
Lycett does however have the F bit in his arsenal, so a Hayes/Lycett dpp still works but with Hayes seeing far greater bench time.
Max Lynch is very interesting. Hawks threw the kitchen sink at him despite Reeves. Which is troubling for Reeves fans but might make for a great handcuff R2/R3
I don’t know why anybody would have Oscar mac as the starting R2. Last year was his best ever and he wasn’t a top 10 ruck and this year Darcy fort will be taking 50 points off him every week.
Pretty sure this has been asked somewhere but
T/U – Grundy
T/D – Mcinerney +118k
110k will likely end up as Preuss
I looked at those two as an actual combo, but the r14 bye for both scared me off…I’m currently Grundy and Witts…Witts might end up Draper if Witts doesn’t come up.
Yeah I am currently Darcy and Grundy, but might end up as Darcy and Mcinerney, an then get preuss to cover
Version 3
Would appreciate comments on selections & structure.
I have selected team based on a 3x5x2x3 premium players who I hope, baring injury are all keepers with the remaining player being rookies. The rookies that I currently have in my side all appear to have reasonable chance of getting a game early in the season. Obviously the preseason rounds will dictate just who gets to play.
Many of my selections are MPP which gives a lot of flexibility & coverage for injury or covid issues.
Defence: Lloyd, Crisp (D/M), Ryan,
Chesser (D/M), Kelly (D/F), McGinness (D/F)
Emerg: McDonagh, Dean
Mids: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Mitchell
Neale, Cogniglio (M/F, O’Driscoll (M/D), Roberts
Emerg: J Clarke (M/F), G Clark, Uwland M/D)
Rucks: Gawn, Grundy
Emerg: Hayes
Fwds: Dunkley (F/M), Duncan (F/M), Martin (F/M)
Hollands (F/M), De Koning (F/D), Comden (F/R)
Emerg: Butler (F/M), Parker (F/M)
Dependant upon preseason form Martin could become one of many other options that I could use.
Depending on Form and How much you have in the bank, I would look at trading dusty, moving cogs down forward and getting either a defender or Midfielder via Kelly DPP
TU Sean Darcy and Tarryn Thomas
TD Oscar McInerney and Lachie Neale
Getting serious, with this team likely to be close.
Lloyd Ridley Whitfield Sicily W Kelly McDonagh (Skinner/Dean)
Macrae Oliver Walsh Neale JHF N Daicos Ward Hobbs (M Roberts G Clark C Parker)
Grundy Witts (B Williams)
Dunks Dusty DeGoosey Butters Gogs Hollands (Comden N Long…c loop)
Def rookies up for grabs, but like the look elsewhere. Could have two rucks playing each of the byes. Really sold on the B Williams/Comden choices as both looking likely to play as r2 in their teams and both have dpp….great flexibility.
Only 4 premo mids but still reckon there is 13 keepers to start, 14 if Witts can hold his spot as my r2. If he doesn’t come up, its Draper instead.
$27.9 itb
Think CCJ will be r2 for North with Goldy r1. Comden to play mainly forward.
Happy with that.
Nice team Son.
not sold on the four premo mids, maybe get a rookie for dusty and get a premo for Hobbs
SuperCoach 101. Go where the rookies are. Don’t know why you would take a forward rookie over a premium mid rookie who’s going to play
Looks pretty serious. The Witts situation needs monitoring, but if he’s good i’m all over it. If he doesn’t, I’d be closely monitoring Reeves.
I wouldn’t choose Dusty, but he could make a successful return to relevance.
Dunks is classic forced into it due to lack of alternatives.
There are plenty of cheap forwards and Rowell, but you can’t take advantage of him as you’re already at 3 3/4 in the mid, so any change in Rucks requires chopping Dusty, Whits or Sicily.
There seems a lot of POTENTIAL cheap rookies down back, so the possibility of upgrading a ruck to Big O or Darcy for dropping a risky premo in Whits/Sicily seems ok.
I’m not sold on Ward and Hobbs both being there round 1 so that might solve the conundrum for you.
First go at a lineup for this season
Def: Lloyd Hall Dawson WKelly O’Driscoll Skinner (Dean, Worner loophole)
Mid: Macrae Steele Oliver Neale Berry/Gresham JHF Daicos Ward (Smith, Johnson, Clark)
Rucks: Darcy Grundy (Hayes)
Fwd: Dunks Duncan Taranto Cogs Amiss Hollands (De Koning, Pedlar)
43k in bank
Gone for strong forward line due to there being plenty of midfield rookies that look to play and score early, obviously all rooks are subject to selection R1 and premo structure changing with which rookies play. Would love to hear thoughts!
Dont know if Amiss is likely to play early in the season, maybe go for rachele or maginess
Nice looking team Bray.
Personally, I’ll be running with 5 premo MIDs for now.
However, if you do choose to go with 4 to strengthen other lines (don’t hate the idea), I think you really need to go 4 uber premos.
Neale is good value if he can get back to this best, but still looks more risky than the 600+k mids. If you can find the $$, I’d try to get to one of Walsh, Titch etc
Strong back line seems to be the go over a strong FWD line just due to durability issues and higher ceiling potential.
For instance would you really rather Taranto over say Short? (DEF). Fwd/Mid rookies are much more likely to show up the Def only rookies
you could flip Skinner forward and open up a spot for a 500k D4
How come no one showing any love for H Greenwood is he no good and a complete dud did north waste there time .
He is a good player but will not be top 8 or even 20 for midfield and won’t be a keeper, or make you much money so no reason to get him
Bargain pickup for North for sure. GCS stuffed up big time.
The questions are supercoach relevancy and price.
JHF is a much better SC option from North and you have to limit your midfield exposure per team because byes.
But, no, he’s not a dud, and he’s not a dumb SC pick. There are just people deciding on potentially better ones.
Hey folks,
There wasn’t anywhere to post this so I’ll just post it here: I’m about to have the first draft of a keeper league with a mate, we’ve got two dud teams in the league as well. We’re doing most points, quite a big team, and I’ve never done a draft before. Is there any spreadsheet or tactic I need to use?
TU – Sicily D4
TD- Day D4
Picking Sicily means I consider him a keeper so wouldn’t a mid-pricer be more appropriate as there are other players I would want over Sicily?
Cheers
Ok last one until practice matches start. Don’t all rush there’s plenty of thumbs up pushing for everyone lol
Lloyd Hall Crisp
Darcy Sinn O’Driscoll
(Dean McDonagh)
McCrae Steele Oliver Mitchell
Neale JHF Daicos Hobbs
(Clark Parker Uwland)
Gawn Darcy (Hayes)
Dunks Butters Cogs
Rachele Maginness De Koning
(Hollands Skinner)
$62,600 ITB so let me know if you would upgrade anyone plz
Right now that’s done it’s back to spending time with my family……..
Sam Darcy? He’s still recovering from a stress fracture, he’s a while off.
Pretty sure Bonza is referring to Sean Darcy Miles
Bonza, has Darcy in the backline so obviously Sam Darcy (injured).
He also has Darcy in his rucks.. ditto Sean.
Yeah, I meant the backline Darcy. I don’t think he’ll play before the bye.
Thanks everyone. Now have replaced Darcy (Sam) with Coleman from Lions. Good luck to you all
TU- Day & Grundy
TD – Sicily & McInerney
Dear Agony Aunt,
A number of good defender options this year….but who to pick at the start? Besides some obvious choices already well canvassed, I find I need to manage cash a bit better and I’m on the lookout for a defensive breakout
The question for the SCT brains trust – do we think any young guns are on the verge of picking up an extra 5 to 20pts a year- that can get cheap now? Who are the improvers? A number of names below – and I know we are all looking for that golden nugget in each line to save cash and bring in points….maybe a poll or separate thread?
Nick Hind
Cummings
Salem
Short
Dale
Weitering
Day
Quaynor
Stack
Ash (D/M)
Touhy (D/M)
Moore
Just thinking too much about this…..back to work
Hey Cuzza.
Aunty was busy so I’ll have a go.
Firstly Short is already considered a Defensive Premo. He also has upside due to a higher average without Houli. He’s still in only 8% of sides and as someone who’s owned him the last two years he is a solid if not spectacular selection. He should still challenge for top 8 defender though.
Touhy has been ‘fringe ” Premo before when playing HB, but his role changes too much for him to be considered these days
Dale
Salam
Hind
Cummings
All kind of “broke out” last year. They seem to have pretty solid roles and scope for some more improvement. I think they could all prove handy as a D6 at years end.
The problem I have is, they all have pretty low floors and none are really sufficiently discounted to be worth a starting position. The low floors mean they will probably be cheaper at some stage during the year. This makes them more upgrade targets than starting selections.
Weitering and Moore both have scoring power, and will have great games where they take a heap of contested marks. They both are forced to play lock down “tall ” too often. This means their scoring will also fluctuate a heap. Not really SC relevant in my book.
Quaynor
Stack
Day
Ash.
All these guys could be SC starts in the future. There is just not many breakouts each year, and they all seem a little young still to get the kind of roles that can produce Premium SC scoring. Stack seems to have off field issues , Day’s body keeps letting him down.
Ash and Quaynor seem the most likely, as I said though they would probably need an injury to a more senior teammate, before being given enough responsibility to truly be SC relevant.
Happy planning.
Maybe not a breakout to premium status, but certainly one to put on the watchlist is Daniel Rioli. JSG and Toland’s Tools have already pitched him – he came out after the bye in 2021 at HB and averaged 79.4 in his last 7 games, even with a couple of stinkers at 49 & 54. When priced at 61.7 pts, it’s looking like unders by $96k if he keeps that role. Probably more if he’s been training there all off-season.
Curious to know the reason for TD here: – don’t like Rioli as a fwd/Def swing option, or don’t agree with the maths?
WW
I think there’s too many unknowns with Rioli at this stage.
He has never been a consistent performer and until recently was dropped several times . He only really had the HB role late last year.
Even with that opportunity, he still had a few stinky scores as you mentioned. The Tigers have recruited a few young backs so I’m not sure if Rioli retains his role at this stage.
Also with someone like Rioli you need to be confident they can outscore a rookie by quite a bit. ( at least 20-25 points ) If not that $200k difference could be used elsewhere in your team to great effect. For mine Rioli is not really a starting pick. If he starts on fire there may be chance to pick him up before price changes anyway.
Just my 2 cents for what its worth..
Happy planning.
Roger that. Thanks FT. I know a couple of die hard tiger lifers who think there’s something there, so I’ll park it as one to watch in the early rounds.
thanks Freo
This is my first year taking SC seriously.
Lloyd Whitfield Sicily
HYoung Coleman Chesser
(Skinner McDonagh)
Macrae Steele Neale Rowell
Berry JHF Daicos Ward
(O’Driscoll MacDonald Clark)
Gawn Grundy
(Hayes)
Dunkley DeGoey Butters
Rayner Coniglio Curnow
(Hollands Comben)
Hey Miles.
The bones are good ..
A bit too Forward heavy and a few too many Midpricers for my liking. This leaves you short a least 1 midfield Premo. The midfield Premo’s are the highest scorers and also great Captains options. I would want to start four at the very least.
Try dropping H Young ( unlikely to improve enough this year to be a keeper, and he’s also injury prone. ) down to a rookie Kemp / Sinn / Perez. Then drop Rayner or Degoey to Maguiness / Rachell.
This should free up enough cash to turn Rowell or Berry into a Titch / Walsh / Oliver.
The rest of your team looks great.
Best of luck in 2022.
Cheers. I went slightly differently downgrading Berry to Erasmus and upgrading Young to Crisp, but hey, still means one more rookie and one more premo intead of two midpricers. I couldn’t quite buy up to a midfielder more expensive than Brayshaw.
Next draft of the Buttslappers@SCT
Def – Hall, Crisp, Ridley, Whitfield, McDonagh, Dean (Skinner & Gould)
Mids – Steele, Mitchell, Dangerfield, Neale, Rowell, JHF, Daicos, Stephens (McInnes, Clark & Parker)
Rucks – Darcy & Grundy (Preuss)
Fwds – Martin, Duncan, Gresham, Coniglio, Spicer, Motlop (Kelly & Hollands)
What do the coaches think?
Hey Shaggi
Great to see you around again.
I think we may need to pay up a bit for the rookies this year to assure JS. You may need to re-jig that backline to include guys like Kemp/Perez / Sinn.
I also think you’re putting a bit too much faith in a few old guys to get back to their best. Dusty , Duncan and Danger are all coming off injury affected seasons and at their age’s its asking a lot for them to fire early. I would consider dropping one or two for some young blood with upside.
PS Pruess is a pipe dream,I wouldn’t start him. If he puts up 2 good scores and retains the role he is an easy corrective trade.
I would put in Comben he looks to be getting a game at North and his DPP should come in handy at some stage.
Happy planning.
Hello FT and thanks for the feedback.
I definitely hear you regarding defence. Hopefully a couple of rookie defenders under $200K get named in round 1 otherwise Milera & Coleman are going to become very popular.
I understand your concern regarding picking oldies like Dangerfield but I pay close attention to types of preseasons they are having.
I am tipping Dusty to have a potentially Brownlow standard season. Duncan could quite easily fall out of my team as I am keen on De Goey.
Using Preuss same as Flynn last year – purely a money making exercise . I have since put Comben in the forwards although I cant see Noble playing CCJ, Comben & Larkey in the one forward line.
I thought last year was bad for ‘intrigue’ regarding rookies but this season seems worse.
I think it was HS or Fox Footy named its best 22 for each club for round 1. I counted about 4 rookies including JHF & Daicos so we may all be scrambling or have multiple donuts sitting on the bench.
Cheers and good luck this season.
Hey lads first proper team of the season:
Upon realising there are plenty of good midfield rookies and hardly any good backline ones I’ve gone for 4 premiums in the backline and 4 instead of 5 in the mid. Give me any suggestions:
Back: Lloyd, Ridley, Whitfield, Sicily, Coleman (apparently tracking well watch in preseason), wanganeen-milera (Kelly, o’driscoll)
Mid: Macrae, Steele, Titch, Neale, Horne-Francis, ward, stephens, Erasmus (Hobbs, mead, Clark)
Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Hayes)
Forward: dusty, heeney, Rayner, Coniglio, curnow, rachelle (Hollands, comben)
Cheers
Hey, Finn.
Yeah, I’m slowly resigning myself to the fact we’ll have to go deep down back.
Great team, but definitely go Dunkley over Dusty.
Yeh had a good think about it mate and I might still change it up but the backline rookies are just not it. Thanks for the suggestion thought dusty might have a big year and be hungry but ur probably right Dunkley is the better option
First draft of a lineup, keen to hear your thoughts:
DEF: Lloyd, Crisp, Ridley, Short, Sinn, W.Kelly (McDonagh, Dean)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Brayshaw, Neale, De Goey, Caldwell, Horne-Francis, Daicos (O’Driscoll, Uwland, Tsitas)
RUCK: Darcy, Grundy (Hayes)
FWD: Butters, Gresham, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, Maginness (Hollands, Comben)
Love the idea of Rowbottom, but feel I have enough (and better) risks as it is
Hey, Pumba.
Get De Goey up FWD. He’s of more value getting a FWD rookie off field and you need that spot for a MID rookie, which looks to be the strongest crop so far. Personally not a fan of the Caldwell pick, just think he won’t get a solid enough MID role – but that’s up to you.
Once you’ve got De Goey up FWD, you’ll have 2 premos and 4 mid-pricers on field. As sexy as that is, I’d consider merging two of those mid-pricers for Dunks. He’s just a must have.
Otherwise, it looks really solid. Some depth up forward and down back is looking like the play this season.
Good luck.
Would look at someone like ward, Rowell or constable over Caldwell
DEF: Hall, Dawson, Whitfield, Sicily, Chesser, O’Driscoll (Dean, Mcdonagh)
MID: J.Macrae, Steele, Walsh, Petracca, Neale , JHF, N.Daicos, G.Clark (C.Stephens, C.MacDonald, C.Parker)
RUCK: Darcy, Grundy (S.Hayes)
FWD: Dunkley, Butters, Cogs, C.Curnow, Maginnes, E.Hollands (S.DeKoning, Comben)
Thoughts?
Yep, great team.
Love the Petracca pick. He gets the raw numbers each week but butchers himself out of consistent scoring.
Can go 120 if he tunes his DE up.
DEF: Lloyd, Dawson, Short, Cumming, Wanganeen-Milera, Skinner (Kelly,McDonagh)
MID: Steele, T Miller, Bont, Titch, Neale , JHF, N.Daicos, D.Stephens (O’Driscoll, Clark, Tsitas)
RUCK: Darcy, Grundy (S.Hayes)
FWD: Dunkley, Cogs, C.Curnow, Rachele, Maginnes, E.Hollands (S.DeKoning, Comben)
Not the finished team but one i like, cumming could be turned into another forward premium like degoey, thomas or buttler but the lack of good rookies coming thru i like this pick, swapped walsh for titch becuause of the likely tagging issue for walsh.
comment your thoughts
Cummings for Sicily maybe? He seems to be going pretty well at the intraclubs.
Def: Lloyd, hall, Ridley, Milera, chesser, Perez (O’Driscoll, Dean)
Mid: Macrae, Steele, Miller, Mitchell, Neale, Constable, daicos, maginness (C. MacDonald, G. Clark, C. Parker)
Rucks: Darcy, Grundy (Hayes)
Fwds: Dunkley, butters, coniglio, curnow, hollands, skinner (W. Kelly, S. De Koning)
would look at JHF instead of constable. will probably have a better role as well as more cash gen and scoring.
My team 2 effort
Stewart Hall Crisp Ridley Kemp WKelly McDonagh Dean
McCrae Steele Miller Oliver Neale Daicos Sinn McGinness O’driscoll Uwland Clark
Darcy Grundy Hayes
Dunkley Cogs Curnow Hollands De Koning Comden Skinner Parker
Forward line looking a bit average but happy with the keepers.
I would look at Grundy to Mcinerney and using the money to upgrade Sinn and Maginess to JHF and Ward, and maybe keeping Sinn down back and getting rid of Kemp
Hey guys would love your opinion on my current side.
DEF: Dawson, Ridley, Whitfield, Sicily, Aleer, O’Driscoll (Dean, Uwland)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, J. Kelly, Neale, Shiel, JHF, Hobbs (C. Stephens, G. Clark, N. Long)
RUCK: Grundy, Darcy (Hayes)
FWD: Dunkley, Butters, Cogs, W Kelly, Hollands, Curtis (C. Parker Nankervis)
My rookies are based off NABLeague seasons, will likely change closer to the beginning of the season when it’s clear who will be playing.
Shiel is not a keeper and won’t really generate enough money to trade him sideways to a premium over 500k. I would look at getting another midfield rookie for shield and then using the cash to get an upgrade Curtis to someone keidean Coleman, Curnow and a bench upgrade or even Sam Darcy if you think he will play
Hi guys.
First time making a team would love some feedback.
Lloyd, crisp, dawson, moore, skinner, gould. ( o’driscoff, dean)
Steele, bont, walsh, dusty, cogs, constable, jhf, daicos (parker hobbs, clark)
Gawn, preuss (Comben)
Dunkley, duncan, ccl, raner, stengle, rachele ( kelly, hollands)
$198,700 legt in bank
🙂
Will Sam Darcy Play Round 1
T/U – Yes
T/D – No
T/U – Sam Darcy
T/D – Josh Rachele
T/U – Bont and Rachele
T/U – Titch and Sam Darcy
As a note, If i go for Bont and Rachele, I have Macrae, Dunkley and Bont
Darcy won’t play before the bye. Big KPPs will eat him. Plus he’s coming off stress fractures.
TU: Ridley
TD: Dawson
This is for my D3 position (to join Lloyd & Crisp)
Apparently Finlayson will be splitting his time as 2nd ruck while resting up forward.
Where does that leave Hayes?
Does that mean Pruess or Comden become r3
Which team has the most Sunday games?
I gotta getta C loophole.
http://supercoachtalk.com/fixture-analysis-loophole-options/
Hawks with the best loophole fixture.
Ned Long (HAW, MID/FWD, 102k) is the way to go.
Thanks Gunboat,
Love your work, as always.
Hope u and ur family are safe and well.
Best wishes for this year.
Thank, Aces.
Right back at you. Catch you over the season.
Hi SCT members, heres my first draft. Value picks up forward and solids up back. PODs through the middle. Lesssgooo.
Would like to hear any thoughts on structure and any improvements that could be made. TIA
J.Lloyd A.Hall J.Crisp
J.Ridley N.O’Driscoll S.Skinner
(C.Dean K.Worner)
Midfielders
T.Mitchell S.Walsh D.Parish
C.Mills L.Neale C.Serong
J.Horne-Francis N.Daicos
(G.Clark B.Uwland C.Parker)
Rucks
S.Darcy O.McInerney
(C.Comben)
Forwards
L.Jackson J.Gresham C.Rayner
S.Coniglio F.Maginness S. De Koning
(W.Kelly E.Hollands)
I would consider dropping one of your premiums in the midfield for Dunkley down forward and then use the spare change to upgrade the other premiums and mid pricers
2infinity&beyond:
Hall, Ridley, Sicily, Milera, Sinn, Wilmot (Chesser, o’Driscoll)
MacRae, Miller, Neale , Duncan, Adams, Cripps, Daicos, Eramus (Hollands, Taylor, Clark)
Gawn, Witts, (Hayes)
Dunkley, Heeney, Gresham, Rayner, Curnow, Brodie (Kelly, Comben)
Thoughts ?
Bit of an odd bunch in the middle with Cripps and Taylor Adams? You have probably gone a bit to heave on mid pricers because you only have 4 rookies starting, which isn’t great for cash gen. I would suggest swapping a few mid pricers out for some rookies and then using the spare change to upgrade Cripps and Duncan and Taylor Adams to better options.
I don’t mind this side. Not the same as everyone else’s.
Not been hearing anything about Witts. While I do like him as a pick – obvious potential cash growth, reliable scoring, previously good durability – it really does make it difficult to build a side around him for round 1 if the few leaks we get are that he might be racing the clock for recovery.
All we can do is wait for the preseason matches. For similar price, if need be, you can restructure around Draper, Jackson or Reeves. All 3 clearly have upside as well, possibly even higher for Draper without the risk of injury recovery.
This is why I shifted away from Witts – a combination of lack of data about his recovery, and greater potential upsides with mid price players elsewhere on the field who we ARE hearing really good reports about in preseason match sims.
Alrighty, here’s a look at what I’ve got at the moment (with a few pointers)
DEF: Lloyd, Short, Whitfield, Sicily, Kemp, Kelly (McDonagh, Dean)
– Lloyd is the obvious no-brainer. Short should truly shine now that Houli won’t be coming back, his average is way better when he’s not there. Whitfield’s had a full pre-season so far, and should be back to his best. Sicily is looking strong in his sim matches. He’s averaged over 100 twice, so he’s definitely tempting. Will see how the rest of his pre-season goes before making the final decision, but he’s in for now. Kemp looks like he’ll fit into the Blues side with Jones retiring and Docherty being out with his cancer recovery, with Newman and Marchbank in doubt too for Rd.1. Should give him enough time at least to generate some cash and peak out, assuming he starts Rd.1. Kelly and McDonagh look good for early rookie debuts too, in a season where there isn’t many good options in the defence at the moment. Don’t know a lot about Dean from the Pies, but he’s one of the cheapies.
MID: Macrae, Walsh, Wines, Neale, De Goey, JHF, Daicos, Ward (O’Driscoll, Clark, Tsitas).
– Macrae has been my first picked player for the last 3 years. Averaged over 121 since 2018, you can’t go wrong with the fella. Barely ever scores under 100 too, so he’s too consistent to pass up in my opinion. Walsh will be in the top 5 players this year, with almost no doubt in my mind. Going for Wines the Brownlow boy, also a highly consistent scorer. Neale’s looking fresh and about back to his prime fitness, so he’s an absolute bargain. I went for De Goey at M5, was in my forward line originally. He averaged around 110 since his midfield move halfway last year. No doubt he’ll stay there this year and onwards, should peak somewhere between $550-600k and make a good M7/M8 at the end of season (not to mention it gives you more flexibility to sub with all the DPPs in the forward line when needed). JHF and Daicos are no-brainers for mid rookies. Ward I heard from Hawks fans is the kind of rookie they’ve been wanting for a few years and should be straight into their best 22 and playing Rd.1. Clark is massive chance to start Rd.1 too, O’Driscoll should start early as well. Tsitas I don’t know when he’ll start, but I know his SC average in the SANFL was massive. Plus he’s the Magarey Medal winner, so that should say something about his reputation.
RUC: Darcy, Naitanui (Hayes)
– I went with the two WA giants. Not only because they’re a POD premium duo, but their bye rounds don’t clash either! Hayes I’ve heard is turning heads and could climb up the pecking order for Port talls. We’ll have to wait and see what happens there.
FWD: Dunkley, Butters, Rayner, Coniglio, Rachele, Hollands (De Koning, Parker)
– Obviously Dunkley’s only worries for me are his fitness. But I’m holding my hopes that he’ll stay good this year. Butters was my F3, but with the scarce options in the defences, I’m currently cutting my forward premos to two (with De Goey in the midfield as mentioned before). I have a small feeling he’ll breakout into an 100 player this year. Rayner’s looking strong and the team have taken notes on his tackle breaks and effiency off both feet. Some good things to like there. Like Dunkley, Cogs’ injury history does concern me. But his pre-season has gone well so far, and at his price it’s very tempting. He’ll be in the same category as Sicily with seeing how the rest of the pre-season goes. Rachele and Hollands are looking like Rd.1 starters at this point. Don’t know much about De Koning or Parker, but I’ve seen them in a lot of sides. So I’m playing it safe.
$75,200 remaining.
Players I have been considering:
– KEIDAN COLEMAN
Coleman’s role change late last year is very mouth-watering as a cash cow option. And his sim match reports are showing he hasn’t left that role, which is a good sign.
– JADE GRESHAM
His number while playing in the midfield are definite breakout material. But his fitness will play as a factor, as well as if his role this year will be more mid-focused or more forward-focused.
– OSCAR MCINERNEY
Average for last year was only 93, thanks to his earlier rounds. But his numbers in the second half of last year were premo material. Only worry for me is hearing that there’s a potential sharing of duties with Darcy Fort, which will be not good for his number if they decided to follow through with that.
– CHARLIE CONSTABLE
Geelong letting this fella go could be like when Adelaide let go of Jarryd Lyons (and Gold Coast for that matter). He’s definitely got the potential to make big numbers at club with a maturing midfield (Miller, Bowes, Rowell, Lukokus). With Brodie and Greenwood gone too, it definitely opens the door for him.
– CHARLIE CURNOW
Heard his fitness has been good, and his previous averages definitely put him as a cash cow. But does he have the potential to make more cash than other cash cow forwards around the same price (Cogs, Gresham, Coleman, Rayner, assuming they keep fit too). All those guys are DPP players and have more room to score more, whereas Curnow is more limited to the forward line and that’s the main concern.
– JOSH GIBCUS
With Astbury gone, they’ll be looking for a big defender to take his spot. And Gibcus could be the man to go to. Two concerns however are him being more of a key defender, and secondly he’ll have other tall backs contending for that spot (like Miller). Although he could make a shift down forward after losing CCJ and Chol too, we’ll have a look at how his sim matches go.
– DUSTIN MARTIN
Dusty definitely wasn’t at his best last year. But from what I’ve heard from the grapevine, his fitness since returning from his kidney injury has been great. He’s lost about 15kg, so he should be running around with a bit more ease. Plus, he’s still one of the only near-premo forwards. And there hasn’t been many options with those in the last few years, so it won’t be like he’ll be an POD pick or anything.
Rip into me guys!
good analysis
Gday WW.
Can’t find much fault with this team or analysis.
One tiny nit-pick for me would be selection of Wines. Even in his best season where he won the brownlow (2021), twelve other MIDs out-averaged him.
With the bank you have left, I think switching to Titch or Laird has very little scope to be a move you regret, but both players have the ceiling to well outscore Wines.
Tarant came in to replace Astbury but Gibcus is going great guns in training and could still play early if Balta moves forward.
Likewise Fort is also tearing it up in Brisbane which would make me really nervous of selecting the big O.
Not sure there is a spot there R1 for Constable. Greenwood was injured in the backend of last year and Fiorini did really well as his replacement. Bowes has gone down injured but he didn’t play midfield last year. Plenty of competition for mid spots at the Suns.
one simple change would be to move DeGoey to Fwd and get an extra mid rookie vs a FWD rookie
I love seeing the analysis along with the choices.
Right now are are REALLY spoilt for rookie priced choice from mature players. It’s a challenge to avoid midpriced madness this year.
Even more so because our rookies have gone through a couple of years of covid impacted development.
the first draft of the year rip it apart
Lloyd, Hall, Crisp, S Darcy, Chesser, O’Driscoll (Mcdonah, Dean)
Macre, Steele, Oliver, Titch, Neale, JHF, Daicos, Clark (Stephens, Macdonald, Parker)
Darcy, Grundy (hayes)
Dunks, Butters, Gresham, Cogs, Hollands, Butler (Kelly, Comben)
Thoughts on the Reeves/Lynch ruck combo at R2 & R3? eliminates the donut risk and both seem to have reasonably good scoring history/potential.
Which makes more sense
TU:
B Lloyd, Rich, Crisp
F Dunkley, Butters, Heeney
TD:
B Lloyd, Rich, Crisp, Coleman
F Dunkley, Butters
Bank 200k extra
So i thought i would put together an All POD team going with mostly lower ownership players* just to have a look and i quite like how it came out
DEF: Rich, Dawson, Short, Dale, Rioli, + Rookies
Mids: Took, Lyons, Laird, Petracca, Serong + Rookies
Rucks: Nic Nat, Big O, comben.
FWDS: Trelor, Bailey, Jamurra, Will Brodie, BWilliams, + Rookies
As far as unique teams go it looks pretty good. Thoughts
* rookies excepted.
wow this actually looks pretty good. A couple of things I would tweak but on the whole not bad at all.
TU: Walsh
TD: Titch
I would say titch, only because he is better at breaking a tag
Thoughts on the Reeves/Lynch ruck combo at R2 & R3? eliminates the donut risk and both seem to have reasonably good scoring history/potential.
I’d be wary of any Hawks RUCKs.
Reeves should be the priority, but Mcevoy being named captain indicates he’ll play, plus they’ve got a very top heavy FWD line (Lewis, Kosi, Jeka, Gunston).
Concerned Reeves will be a horses for courses selection, and Lynch similarly.
This is my second draft.
I realise that there are a ton of higher-priced rookies (or some that might even qualify as ‘midpricer’), which has reduced the number of Premos in the side (10). This approach however has players that may be more certain ‘best-22’, which is the intent I’m taking into this season. Once we start getting closer to the start of the season, my hope is that less expensive rookies have shown enough through the preseason and I’d be able to downgrade enough of these higher-priced rookies to upgrade to another 1-2 Premos prior to the bounce.
D: Lloyd, Hall, Whitfield, Bowey, Coleman, Budarick (NWM, Sinn)
M: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Neale, Constable, JHF, Daicos, Ward (Stephens, Erasmus, Clark)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Hayes)
F: Dunkley, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, Brodie, Rachele (Hollands, De Koning)
$19.4k Bank
Appreciate the feedback; please take into account that the Premos are pretty locked (barring injury or a broken preseason), while there is flexibility with the rookies, and hopeful that 1-2 more Premos can be incorporated.
I guess where advice would be appreciated is comment on the higher-priced rookies, who they might be able to be downgraded to that have good JS.
Thanks coaches and good luck!
The main thing i would do is trust your Mid rookies a bit more. If everything goes well you have good Cash gen, so maybe swap Constable for the 102k Suns rookie mid they just signed Tsitas. Gives you someone who will start as a loop and could make you a good amount of money if injury or Covid hits.
That also gives you an extra 100k for a midpricer upgrade to get another player in the 300k tier.
Thx JSG
I’ve just had a look at it.
Definitely opens up possibilities.
I love the Bowey pick. means you only risk 2 uncertainties/rookies in Def. besides that, I reckon he is gunna explode.
TU Hall
TD Dawson
Just out of curiosity, has anyone cracked the 2000 mark for projected scores
Tbh you don’t really want to as it means u don’t have enough rookies
T/U – Chester
T/D – Sinn
TU Coleman
TD Rayner
Who,…as a personal opinion, is the bigger HBG (hard ball gets)
ie gets more than receives,
TU Neale
TD Titch
Hey guys this is my first draft feel free to rip it apart.. happy with my premos but floating a few mid pricers
DEF: lloyd, crisp, ridley, Coleman, sinn, o’Driscoll (mcdonaugh, dean)
MID: macrae, Steele, Oliver, titch, neale, Constable, JHF, Hobbs (Clark, uwland, long)
RUC: Darcy, Grundy (comben)
FWD: dunkley, Jackson, rayner, cogs, maginess, hollands (Kelly, Parker)
Got heaps of dpp and rookies will obvs change
Will switch out constable for daicos if he isn’t best 22
$30k left in the bank
New Team after realising I don’t trust my rookies outside of the midfield, and want more guaranteed cash gen. I Swapped Titch for Rowell, upgrade my defence with Milera and stacked my bench with rookies who I hope will play.
The team looks like this
Defence – Lloyd, Crisp, Ridley, Sicily, Milera, Sinn ( O’ Driscoll, Mcdonagh)
Mid – Macrae, Steele, Bont, Neale, Rowell, JHF, Daicos, Ward ( Erasmus, Hobbs, Hollands)
Ruck – Darcy, Mcinerney ( Mayes)
Fwd – Dunkley, Butters, Cogs, Rachele, Maginess, Kelly (Skinner, Long)
The number 1 trade I would think about making is Rowell out for Clark, and start one of Erasmus or Hobbs. This would give me enough cash to upgrade either cogs or Milera to either Dusty or Whitfield. Pls, lmk if you think I should make this trade and if I should upgrade Milera or cogs. I would think cogs as my fwd line is the weakest line atm
Rowell is interesting as he allows you to jump onto any mid pricer via rookie corrections…
If you do it I’d keep Cogs
G’day all,
Long time, first time….
Here is my team so far, rookies are a work in progress. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
DEF: Loyd, Rich, Dawson, Aleer, Dean, Wanganeen-Milera
EMG: McDonagh, Voss
MIDS: McRae, Steele, Miller, Oliver, Thomas, Cogs, JHF, Daicos
EMG: Tsitas, Clark, Nankervis
RUCKS: NicNat, Jackson
EMG: Camben
FWDS: Martin, Treloar, Heeney, Rayner, Rochele, Motlop
EMG: Peris, Parker
@Tim messer
don’t know if its the right call to have Thomas in the midfield… I reckon you downgrade him to either hollands, d.Stephens, josh ward and upgrade jackson to either big o or wither sam Darcy or grundy. Or you go the other route and upgrade a back liner to Sicily.
could also chuck cogs in the forward line for another midfield rookie
could also swap Martin treloar and heeney into dunks butters and curnow
just a few ideas but I reckon rest of the team is strong
p.s leave how much u have in the bank next time… its easier to see what changes are possible
Big O splitting time with Darcy Fort doesn’t really give us too many options in the ruck, does it?
Yep, ugh.
I was all over Big O until this news. Ruck split with Darcy Fort? F*ck that.
Big O’s not that good an overhead mark and gets a little lost up forward.
Looks like I’m shilling out the extra 120k for Grundy.
The best alternate strategy is probably Demon Handcuffs or Witts/Draper.
Gawn + Jackson and you get that DPP to rotate in comben or a cheap playing RF to give you more cover. Plus a Hayes type R3.
witts is a good call, just have to see how his pre season is but his price and player selection make him a great value player to have in you the team if you want the extra cash
Draper does seem to be showing a bit in the match sims. Certainly on my watch list, and unlike Hickey, Goldstein, Marshall, Lycett, Big O and the Hawks options has a clear shot at the number 1 role.
Much as I wasn’t too convinced on the Darcy option it’s a safe way to park the cash in that at least if it fails you can downgrade with knowledge of the ruck status quo, and most of your competitors will face the same trade problem.
IMHO it isn’t really a winning strategy, more a neutralization strategy, and then you back your picks elsewhere on the field to pull off the win.
Lloyd, Dawson, Ridley, Sicily, Milera, P.McCartin (Kelly, S.De Koning)
Steele, Mitchell, Walsh, Neale, Rowell, JHF, Daicos, Stephens (Goater, G.Clark, Long)
Darcy, Grundy (Hayes)
Heeney, Butters, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, F.Maginness (Hollands, Comben)
P McCartin – 157k dpp
Was fit all of last year.
I know he was suspended for 5 weeks last year, which cost him quite a few games but otherwise basically played the full season.
That was spread between NSW and QLD because of Covid, and saw him playing in the Bombers reserves too.
Is he worth a look in?
T/u Straight into the 22
T/d Won’t get a game early
Hey HH.
Seems he is back up for Buddy at this stage. I think they will play ( as talls ) Logan McDonald , Buddy and either Amarty or Ladhams (2nd Ruck )
If Buddy or McDonald need a rest he may come in for a game or two.
Hello Coaches.
Looking for some feed back regarding this draft of my team. (I have a feeling I will well and truly get it as well!).
Def – Hall, Ryan, Daniel, Whifield, Wanganeen-Milera, O’Driscoll (Sinn &Dean)
Mids – Macrae, Steele, Crisp, Neale, Pendles, Hewett, JHF, Daicos (Pedlar, MacDonald & Clark)
Ruck – Grundy & Preuss (Comben)
Fwds – Martin, Butter, Heeney, Coniglio, Hollands, Maginness (Kelly & Baldwin)
Pendles I see becoming a DPP mid/def very early on.
JFH to become fwd/mid very early on.
Hewett to provide extra defender coverage as I reckon we are going to need it.
The promise of extra midfield time for Martin, Butters & Heeney has tempted me.
Hopefully a few more cut price rookies make themselves known.
p.s. how do you create an avatar for when you make comments.
Hey, Roo.
Great team, just a few positional issues. Crisp, Hewett and Pendles* should all be down back. Crisp and Hewett of more value down back as they’re getting a DEF rookie off the field (which it looks like we’ll be short on) and their scores will be more competitive relative to the Top 6 DEFs than the Top 8 MIDs.
We’ve got some great uber premo MID options and a solid crop of rookies coming through, so those spots should be for them.
Agree that Pendles likely gets DEF DPP and will score well but probably better to pick him up when that happens instead of starting him. Up to you though, could be a sage move – but definitely get Crisp and Hewett down back.
Preuss R2 is a death sentence. R3 maybe, but definitely not on R2 to start. I’d recommend checking out FT’s GWS Preview when it drops next week.
Really love the Ryan, Heeney and Butters picks. Dunks over Dusty for me though.
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Hope to see you around the site, good luck!
Just had a go at adding an avatar – hopefully it works….
Nice, Lisa. On brand lol.
Cool avatar, Lisa
I thought after all these years that I should get one too! Lol.
Nice CT!
Luv it Lisa 😉
Def- Lloyd,Crisp,Sicily, Chesser, O’driscoll
Mcdonagh.(Boyd,Dean)
Mid- Steele,Titch,Petracca,Neale,Cripps,Rowell,
JHF,Daicos. (Hobbs,Clark,Tsitas)
Ruck- Gawn,Grundy.(Combden)
Fwd- Dunkley, Martin, Butters,Cogs,Kelly,
Parker. (Maginness,Holland)
64k left
It’s doing my head in already.
If only I had a cellar like Wighty.
Suggestions are most welcome.
Thanks
I personally like Pinot gris and Pinot Grigio…. Oh wait.
Roughead for my beloved pies having shoulder surgery will miss opening few matches which means that young Dean could get a run! Hello cash cow!!
Help me out guys. Hows my team looking?
DEF
Lloyd hall crisp whitfield coleman o’driscoll
(McDonagh dean)
MIDS
macrae steele oliver neale horne-francis daicos D.Stephens G.Clark
(macdonald Burgoyne tsitas)
RUCK
Darcy grundy
(comben)
FWDS
dunkley heeney rayner cogs curnow Hollands
(Skinner butler)
Been tossing and turning as everyone else has been with making their team and I think I am close to the final product (for now). Any opinions welcomed.
DEF –
LLOYD, RIDLEY, SHORT, WHITFIELD, ODRISCOLL, DEAN (MCDOANGH, UWLAND)
MID –
MACRAE, STEELE, OLIVER, NEALE, JHF, DAICOS, WARD, CLARK (HOLLANDS, MEAD, TSITAS)
RUCK –
DARCY, GRUNDY (HAYES)
FWD –
DUNKLEY, THOMAS, BUTTERS, COLEMAN, COGS, COMBEN (KELLY, LONG)
13.3k ITB
Let us know what you think fellas.
Hey Crab.
This team looks the goods at this stage.
My main problem is you seem to be relying on too many $102k rookies.
I count 4 ( with Long ) I just can’t see us getting that many starting R1.
It’s much easier to drop a $123K player down to a $102K than the other way around.
With your current balance you can’t even afford to turn one $102K guy into a $117K player like MacDonald ( who looks like getting early games. )
It seems that the defensive Rookies likely to play are guys like Kemp / Perez / Sinn.
I would prefer if you managed to get one of Dean or Uwland up to one of these guys. This will make it much easier to manage your side with the last minute shuffling of rookies. Remember Rookies determine structure and playing Rookies with decent JS should be your top priority.
The rest of your side looks great.
Happy planning.
Appreciate the response mate.
Where would you go about sourcing this money from the team? I’m having a hard time deciding where I’d need to downgrade to have the money available.
Simple fact is that you are gonna have to let a premo or one of cogs and coleman go to cover rookie depth, or lose one of the premo rookie mids like ward.
TBH I’d be waiting until we see teams for preseason contest.
The team looks good as is but no way this many 102k rookies play, so best to make the choices closer to time.
If you wait, sometimes these decisions get made for you.
Failing that you can downgrade someone to titch, or downgrade coleman to curnow. But for now I’d sit tight and let the preseason take it’s course.
It’s always a mad scramble for rookies before round 1, no matter your planning and structure.
Would love some feedback on my team only have $8,000 in the bank
Def – lloyd, Dawson, Sicily, Bowey,Wanganeen-Milera, McDonagh, Dean (Sinn & McDonagh)
Mids – Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Mitchell, Neale,JHF,Daicos, Ward (O’Driscoll, Tsitas & Clark)
Ruck – Gawn & Darcy (Williams)
Fwds – Dunkley, Butters, Coniglio, Curnow, Rachele , Parker (Hollands & Kelly)
Thats a tough one Crab.
Obviously this would be your preferred team, and if the rookies show up you can revert back to this side. When looking at a starting side at this stage flexibility is key. It really depends on your priorities of who you really want to start.
Some suggestions are downgrading Butters or T Thomas to a Rayner type.
Or you could look at Short or Whitfield to someone like Sicily ( if you like him ) or a Forward Midpricers like Rayner / Gresham, and moving K. Coleman back.
It may just be as simple as downgrading Oliver to a Titch or Walsh.
I would just look at a plan B if you need to fit in a few more expensive rookies.
Happy planning.
Which Roo?
TU- Tarryn Thomas
TD- Jy Simpkin
What are your thoughts on this team
Lloyd, Crisp, Ridley, Sicily, Wanganeen Milera, Dean (Chesser, Gould)
Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Neale, JHF, Daicos, Ward, Stephens (Erasmus, MacDonald, Clark )
Grundy, Gawn (Comben)
Dunkley, Heeney, Coniglio, Curnow, Brodie, Rachele (Jeffrey, Hollands)
David.
I like it. I’m really not sold on Brodie though.
Maybe look at K Coleman if you can afford him.
Coleman was taking kick ins in the latest match sim.
Monitor upcoming practice games to see if this tread continues.
Who will earn more $$$
Preuss 1st ruck role most likely(Neither Flynn nor Briggs could tip Mummy out last year)
JHF more likely to spend time as a fwd
TU: Preuss ($204K)
TD: JHF ($207K)
I would not be so sure that Preuss has a lock on being first ruck. I have been informed that that role could be Flynn? Their coach likes his players being competitive for their position and the three are striving for first ruck.
As you mentioned last year. Flynn and Briggs were being managed throughout the year to aid their development and improve their craft with big mummy being an excellent coach.
Preuss could find himself being also managed throughout this year especially with his injury history.
It will interesting to observe the ruck contest and who prevails but as for Supercoach a risky conundrum that a cautious approach maybe needed.
As for JHF, by all reports he is flying. His coach issued a statement saying he was not in the current top 22 but needed to continue to work hard and improve. By his latest match sim, it could be concluded that that was more of don’t get ahead of yourself and a game is not a given. He spent more time forward in the latest sim with time in the mids. He looks a natural. He is expensive but maybe worth the extra cash as other high price rookies have shown in the pass.
As we all know the upcoming practice games will gleam further insight.
For what it is worth I voted for JHF.
Good luck with your season.
TU: Caleb Serong
TD: Tarryn Thomas
Looks like about 60% plus Teams will be looking at a change.
Word is Walsh has a Synopsis and will miss the 1st 4 rounds at least.
Regards
Gilly