Yep, example is Neale was 1.85 to score over 100 Dt points last Thurs. I’m not a gambler.If a game caller tags a long kick to a contest which spills off the pack as ineffectual or if it’s a contested mark by the oppo and it’s tagged a turnover, because of a betting interest of the caller. Would people agree that that’s point shaving( as it’s called in the states) which is why I’m wondering about oversight of cd…
Geez i like Stewart who has runs on the board and is a POD now! Buuut sick and tired of watching Daicos tear teams a new one and feel i am forced to get on that train…
What are we all doing with docherty?
Usually I’m against trading premiums, however the role is the concerning factor for mine. Has he bleed too much cash already?
Need to replace Nank the Tank.
I got him in because Cameron needed to be replaced who I got in because Gawn also needed to be replaced.
I can’t get English in unless I do a second trade which I would prefer not to do
But at least if I get screwed again a lot of others will as well.
Not keen on Grundy as his score will plummet once Gawn returns.
Thumbs up – Darcy
Thumbs down – Grundy/English
Is this the week to get Tom stewart
Could do this with leftover cash from last week
Liam jones and Hollands/McKenzie/baker > van rooyen (through dpp) and Stewart
Is Duncan playing mid or defence? Didn’t watch the game.
Looking for potential Doc replacements but want to see how he goes when Walsh returns this week.
not too many options this week. still think Mackenzie and Phillipou have some money to make so hesitant to trade, but I think I might have to be aggressive after an average start to the season.
TU: Mackenize/Phillipou + Jones > Van Rooyen + Dawson
Not alot on the trade front for myself..
If I make any moves it’ll be Bytel -> S.Ryan following the news of nank..
Doch will probably hold another week. Just going to ride it out now and hope he can find form again. when walsh returns? lets all pray so.
Players cannot get TPP and as far as I’m aware, cannot get an existing position removed or changed to something else. Can only add a position to a single position player to make them a DPP player
My problem is I chased points and brought in Hayden Young for Stewart after rd 1, so I can’t justify going back to Stewart at the cost of 2 trades and -$40k or so. Already got Dawson. Day looking like he might be suspended so do Lloyd or Redman work as prospects?
All rookies still have negative/low BEs and need another week minimum. Davey might be injured (shoulder then ankle late) so could potentially move to van Rooyen, although Ben Brown to come back and didn’t light it up over the weekend. Line also through Brockman and Williams probably won’t keep DBJ out LT.
Question becomes Neale. Paid top dollar for him and been absolutely murdered. No accumulation, no speed, no signature game altering dominance. Terrible. What’s frustrating though is he’s still flat tonning and has North this week.
Tempted to make him my favourite non-Eagles player in Miller. Would also be considering Warner but still not back on a full CBA load and don’t love his regressive start.
Why are people considering trading cogs?
He still has the same role as he did in round 1, okay a couple of down weeks but he will be a top 6 forward come the end of season.
Definitely hold for mine!
$76k ITB
Really need help, not sure what to do this week. Any thoughts appreciated. Cameron to Stewart the obvious play but unfortunately $2.8k short. What would you do?
Boost: Doc – Dawson (or Stuart/Sinclair)
Cameron to Miller (or Dylan Moore or a cheaper mid POD I love getting mid premos in the 550 range)
Jones > Ryan or Van ruen (via constable DPP)
Defence is a little light this week but DPP will fix that next week.
Could go to lesser premiums and save the boost but too risky for me this early
Maybe try trade Cameron out, move taranto to fwd line and get a premo mid in (either directly or with an additional downgrade). If you’re feeling up for it, could also consider trading out Neale and/or setterfield to other premos
Docherty, Jones & Cameron >> Stewart, Dawson & Van Rooyen.
Leaves you with about $42K in the bank and you have brought in 2 keepers and a rookie on the bubble (who may get DPP) who might hold his spot until Gawn comes back.
Cheers Domicile- thats what I am now thinking.
Other option instead of Stewart is Josh Kelly or could do Setterfield to Clarry. I just dont know how I feel about paying up for Clarry now
What to do with worpel?
Difficult to find the funds to go up to a premo unless I trade out hopper with him.
Can we hold him one more week at least?
(BE 80)
Need to get rid of Liam jones this week been horrible
Have 230k in the bank and looking at getting jones to tommy stew
Only way to do this tho is trade hollands who’s starting to reach his max price but could make another 30-40k maybe? down to van rooyen
Problem is I can’t get Jones to van rooyen dpp doesn’t work unless constable somehow gets a gig
TU: Looks good Jones, hollands > Stewart, Jvr
TD: Hold off
Rookies are there to be upgraded. If going early on a rookie means you get a premo in then it’s worth it (ofc this is context dependent – Wilmot is not exactly setting the world on fire so he’s almost ready to sell anyway. Probs only has 1-2 weeks in him max. Davey is in a similar boat)
Cheers Shaggi, that’s sort of what I was thinking too. I don’t see it worthwhile to cull any of my existing rookies for JVR or S. Ryan
T. Young is the only one im considering for Chesser but even that I’m not sure on his JS. Setterfield and Hayden Young could be upgraded to either Taranto OR Daicos respectively, though even that I don’t see any urgency given Daicos is close to maxing out $$ wise
I know I could not trade and points on field won’t vary too much. (Sheed + Callaghan = 150. Stewart + Bruce = 160). But it feels really good to bring in a premo.
Hope that the cash gen of DVR versus Callaghan and Sheed is about the same also.
I also saw the comment about DVR potentially getting ruck DPP. If that’s true and he holds his spot, then it gives me the chance to cash in Rat at R3 in a few weeks and have DVR move up to R3. I know Ryan might be a better possibility but I have missed his price rise and now don’t have enough cash for the trade.
Yeah I know this is a bit of a bragging post (apologies for that) but you gotta take the joy in this game when you can find it. We all know it can quickly slap you down.
I’m considering it. Though also considering not going Dawson as I need 2 trades to make that happen. Waiting to see what whether Hawks appeal Days suspension.
Options are Rioli at 486k or
Duncan at 485k
Rioli has been racking them up, however twice scored under 70 and twice above 125
Duncan first game back and has put up 116
Thoughts?
Exactly the thought process. Interested to see team sheets, but both Lynch and Nank out, with Soldo at least a week or two away, makes Samson a greater choice over JVR IMO.
TU: Docherty-Stewart, 27 trades left
TD:Docherty-dawson
davey-van rooyen, 26 trades left
Davey shoulder could mean missing a week, is this the way to go to get dawson? or just stick with stewart?
Have to trade Doch out with only $22.6k in the bank, hesitant to downgrade any rookies as all of them have plenty of cash left to make. Have DPP on every line so can swing pretty much anywhere.
TU: Doch > Van Rooyen, use cash for massive upgrades later
TD: Phillipou > Van Rooyen, Doch > defensive premo
Comment: Take a flyer on Lloyd/Baker/Day (if not suspended) and hope.
If Constable gets up there’s a chance you could hold Doc a week and then trade him to Forward when the Dpps happen. Cogs will be Sub $500k at this rate.
Lots of punters praying for one more game from Constable. Can hold him as long as another warm body on the def/mid bench to cover him. Thought Cowan and Hollands might be under pressure this week with Walsh/Acres, but Doch means more of a chance for them to stay.
Redman probably has more upside but his floor is a real worry.
Lloyd looks to be more consistent this year, saying that I’m not sure he has a huge ceiling with guys like Blakley and Florent getting more ball. I would look at Day and take the extra cash if he is cleared to play.
Congrats on your rank, I’m not sure how many boosts you have used already ?
I think Ryan to Ridley is a little to sideways. I’m not sure Ryan keeps up this scoring so maybe wait a week or two and try and get in a Sicily or Sinclair ( both have high BE’s ) for Ridley.
Hey all, so got $559k if i trade doc which is under my wanted premos (Dawson, Stewart, Saad, Ryan, Sinclair). Also expecting Day to be suspended. Should I:
TU: trade doc to one off Lloyd / Baker / Redman
TD: play Wilmot from my bench and wait until next week for any value
What’s a sensible amount of trades to have used by end of round 4? I currently have 31 remaining, but considering using a boost this week to sort the Doch/Day situation.
Look at how many promo spots you have left to fill, then double that as most likely have to go one up one down to get premos in then add 5/6 trades for injuries and you will have how many trades you should need
31 trades itb, ranked around 30kish, been slowly coming up from initially 70k rank.
Macrae worth trading to a performing premo (touk, Ndaicos). Thinking that even if he eventually bounces back, it may cost me overall rank, whereas could trade to a premo scoring 20ppg more, and then upgrade to macrae later in szn if he comes good
Tu; yes, enough trades itb to make the sideways move
Td: stay conservative.
My midfield needs a serious injection of quality so I want to bring in Clarry. Aside from a sideways trade of some non-performing premo (I have quite a few!), the only rookie who is priced highly enough is Ashcroft.
TU – make the trade and enjoy having a regular C/VC option
TD – the kid still has more money to make
Hey everyone I’m ranked in the top 2k am I crazy for thinking of going
setters to Pickett as a POD & cash grab.
His role seems so good right now & Melb team isn’t going to change his role if players return. Can he keep this level of scoring 90+ up to make it worth it??
I’ve sent Day to my bench, where he can sit for two weeks and think about what he’s done:) I just can’t see anyone at his price with his cash gen and scoring upside and will be def/mid dpp. Just not worth a trade imho.Then again I’m not 9th either:)
I feel you, a Ridley to a Stewart looks so good right now but I feel with cows ripening up soon, the more money in the bank for that period the better. And I still have hope he can bump up his scores haha…
Have a ranking of 6.5k, so I want to see how high up I can climb.
Docherty replacement
T/U: Redman, will mean Mckenzie for M8.
T/D: Warner, will mean Wilmont on field for D6.
Ultimately, can do a double trade and get Stewart, Sincliar etc…but I think i’m leaning toward the value option before making downgrades and bringing in these premos in the next couple weeks. Day was the perfect trade from Doch but shit happens!
What are your thoughts?
My apologies in advance if this might be a dumb question… but why is this “Trade Talk – Round 4” and not “Trade Talk – Round 5”? The trades to be made are for Rd5 and all the other forward looking regulars such as “The teams”, “Fallen Premos”, “Captaincy Options” etc all reference the next Rd not the last round.
400k bank for upgrades season.
Will loop wilmot/cowan for one week til sheezel or ziebell swing back.. will grab Sinclair or sic next week after they drop $$. I already own Dawson
Is it worth trading Amartey out for Van rooyen?
TU Yes Amartey will probably get dropped and Van rooyen is safe for a few more weeks
TD No Van rooyen will likely be dropped and Amartey just put in a one off stinker?
From memory Amartey had 19 at 1/4 time and managed another 2 points for the game!
Can someone please talk me out of Kozi Pickett? 365k with a BE of -24. Has been scoring well but small sample size and typically a role like his is not consistent.
T/U- gets a rookie off the field, worth the risk
T/D – stick to a cheap rookie this week like JVR, samson ryan
Midprice madness doesn’t make much sense mid season as it 2 trades. One to trade him in and 1 to trade him out for a real premium.
You always want to maintain the value of a trade. So you should get 150k trading to Kozzie if he’s a rookie and you should make 150k after trading him out.
At his price that doesn’t work so you’re picking him as an underpriced premium. A premium for 360k is great value. But there’s a reason he’s 360k it’s a very risky pick
Hi, all any thoughts would be much appreciated. $61,500k ITB, 31 trades (four boosts). Traded DCAM to Grundy last week, thinking of going Doch & Finn to LDU and Michalanney
Off topic but going to need CD to start releasing how they score each game because some of the scoring this season has been realllllllly weird
I’m not suggesting it , but with bookies running DT/SC points markets, surely there is oversight on CD game calling teams?
Whoa……bookies betting on price/pts adjustments ??
Yep, example is Neale was 1.85 to score over 100 Dt points last Thurs. I’m not a gambler.If a game caller tags a long kick to a contest which spills off the pack as ineffectual or if it’s a contested mark by the oppo and it’s tagged a turnover, because of a betting interest of the caller. Would people agree that that’s point shaving( as it’s called in the states) which is why I’m wondering about oversight of cd…
Agree…..
Docherty to Day
Jones or Mackenzie to JVR
Day might get suspended
That would be great.
Would have the $$$ to upgrade to him in a few weeks
What to do with Cogs?
TU: Trade
TD: Keep. Bounce back v Hawks
Couple of down weeks in terms of SuperCoach scoring, however definitely hold. Will be a top 6 forward come end of year!
I saw him v Dons….he looks sore.
25 touches and a goal, the role is there and he still put up a respectable 70. I wouldn’t be trading cogs. Still goes 105+ imo.
Hold. He scored a 27 last season. It happens for him
Stewart or daicos
Tu daicos
Td stewart
Geez i like Stewart who has runs on the board and is a POD now! Buuut sick and tired of watching Daicos tear teams a new one and feel i am forced to get on that train…
What are we all doing with docherty?
Usually I’m against trading premiums, however the role is the concerning factor for mine. Has he bleed too much cash already?
Bled too much already, and hopefully shifting back to his preferred role on halfback with the return of 3 mids
Wait and see after walsh back
Need to replace Nank the Tank.
I got him in because Cameron needed to be replaced who I got in because Gawn also needed to be replaced.
I can’t get English in unless I do a second trade which I would prefer not to do
But at least if I get screwed again a lot of others will as well.
Not keen on Grundy as his score will plummet once Gawn returns.
Thumbs up – Darcy
Thumbs down – Grundy/English
Gawn should still be a while away, by then you may even make money trading him to Gawn
Heads up Shaggi, Gawn is now listed as 1-2 weeks
Anyone interested in Kozzie, kicked 2.5 on the weekend and goals were in junk time and has a really nice role.
Thinking about Ridley to Wilkie..
What do the coaches think? Thanks!
Chesser to Van Roo for me.
I’m ok keeping Constable incase he gets another game. Chesser has to go as I can’t have 3 dead rookies ( Madden ) so early.
Same boat. Constable got 36 disposals in the VFL so holding out for another go at the big time.
Is this the week to get Tom stewart
Could do this with leftover cash from last week
Liam jones and Hollands/McKenzie/baker > van rooyen (through dpp) and Stewart
Tempted also but with just a single trade from Setterfield
So my Bazlenka risk has been a huge fail. Trade for:
TU: Tim Kelly + 105k ITB for Callaghan upgrade next week
TD: Touk Miller + no money = no upgrade.
What are our thoughts on Kelly’s SC potential this year?
Sicily to Stewart-TU
Sicily to Ryan-TD
I’d wait on trading Sicily. He’s averaging 99, and that’s not terrible at this point, it’s only Rd.4
You are joking surely. Arguably the best def over last few years has one bad game and you want to trade ???
Think this week is just Calahan > Van Ruen
Melbourne have an easy time coming up and he’s playing backup ruck and could hopefully be a chance at DPP in a few weeks (fingers crossed)
Is it worth trading Doch to Lloyd?
Docherty to whom?
TU: Saad
TD: Ryan
Comment: Stewart
Stewart
Stewart
Doch killing me – thinking of trading him to Luke Ryan or Tom Stewart. Ryan is a straight swap whereas Stewart would mean a downgrade somewhere.
T/U – Stewart
T/U – Ryan
Is Duncan playing mid or defence? Didn’t watch the game.
Looking for potential Doc replacements but want to see how he goes when Walsh returns this week.
D5/6 for me
Cant afford Stewart
What do you guys think of this replacement of Doch
Doch > Redman?
not too many options this week. still think Mackenzie and Phillipou have some money to make so hesitant to trade, but I think I might have to be aggressive after an average start to the season.
TU: Mackenize/Phillipou + Jones > Van Rooyen + Dawson
TD: Chesser > Van rooyen
Early thoughts, need to chop worpel this week, no one to go down to that’s viable for fielding on ground in the midfield, looking to go up to Laird.
Hopper > JVR (Via dpp)
Philipou > Samson Ryan (No nank means he should put out some decent scores)
Worpel > Laird
Don’t love the idea of chopping hopper however I don’t have any other way at this stage to get worpel upto laird…
Tu or Td
Thoughts appreciated!
Not alot on the trade front for myself..
If I make any moves it’ll be Bytel -> S.Ryan following the news of nank..
Doch will probably hold another week. Just going to ride it out now and hope he can find form again. when walsh returns? lets all pray so.
W.Day is tempting me though.
Trade Docherty for Daicos? I have enough cash ITB to do so and might be my last oppurtunity to get him.
TU or TD
Yeah, that shit HAS to happen.
I’m going cogs to Stewart via DPP, will sheezel , Ziebell , gain DPP after R6 and can a player gain TPP ( ratugalea) ?
Players cannot get TPP and as far as I’m aware, cannot get an existing position removed or changed to something else. Can only add a position to a single position player to make them a DPP player
Hold cogs, he’ll still finish top 6 fwds
No TPP but Ziebell and Sheezel, definitely grab DEF status next week.
Personally, I’ll be keeping them FWD even after DPP for a while.
They will both be dpp after r6
They gain DPP after round 5 don’t they? That’s what I thought anyway.
Comben > Van Rooyen
Ridley > Stewart
TU: Smart trades
TD: Hold
Have 30 trades ATM, thinking of cash generation right now.
TU: Hold
TD: Davey, McAndrew > Van Rooyen, Samson Ryan
Did anyone else go Cameron to Nank pre R4, or is that just me?
TU: Setterfield/Green –> Stewart
TD: Hold
Also have Docherty and Rampe but I think I should hold them
Has Jake Lloyd returned to his glory days? Looking good at 517k.
Yeah, he’s now adapted his game to Sydney’s sharp ball movement and corridor style.
Would probably stretch to Stewart/Dawson though. Even Day at 50k less.
My problem is I chased points and brought in Hayden Young for Stewart after rd 1, so I can’t justify going back to Stewart at the cost of 2 trades and -$40k or so. Already got Dawson. Day looking like he might be suspended so do Lloyd or Redman work as prospects?
Might be my first week with no trades since R1.
All rookies still have negative/low BEs and need another week minimum. Davey might be injured (shoulder then ankle late) so could potentially move to van Rooyen, although Ben Brown to come back and didn’t light it up over the weekend. Line also through Brockman and Williams probably won’t keep DBJ out LT.
Question becomes Neale. Paid top dollar for him and been absolutely murdered. No accumulation, no speed, no signature game altering dominance. Terrible. What’s frustrating though is he’s still flat tonning and has North this week.
Tempted to make him my favourite non-Eagles player in Miller. Would also be considering Warner but still not back on a full CBA load and don’t love his regressive start.
So, yeah, probably no trades. Mulling Miller.
Can’t continue holding both of these guys, one of them has to go….
T/U – Docherty
T/D – Coniglio
Hold cogs
Why are people considering trading cogs?
He still has the same role as he did in round 1, okay a couple of down weeks but he will be a top 6 forward come the end of season.
Definitely hold for mine!
$76k ITB
Really need help, not sure what to do this week. Any thoughts appreciated. Cameron to Stewart the obvious play but unfortunately $2.8k short. What would you do?
Def: Doch, Daicos, Ridley, Jones, McKenna, Ginbey ( Wilmot, Cowan)
Mid: Neale, Bont, Green, Setterfield, Taranto, Hopper, McKenzie (Baker, Davey, Constable)
Ruck: Darcy, RoMo ( Madden)
Fwd: Dunkley, Rozee,Darcy Cameron, Ziebell, Sheezel, Chandler (Rat, Greene)
Thanks
With DPP coming up would probably focus on getting another mid or forward. Seems to be better value there.
Could go Luke Jackson for ruck cover. He’s scored well the past 2 weeks and bottomed out. Looks to have a great bye.
Maybe Kozzie to free up cash. Dylan Moore as a FWD POD
What trades would you do this week with my team?
With Doc being out probably
Boost: Doc – Dawson (or Stuart/Sinclair)
Cameron to Miller (or Dylan Moore or a cheaper mid POD I love getting mid premos in the 550 range)
Jones > Ryan or Van ruen (via constable DPP)
Defence is a little light this week but DPP will fix that next week.
Could go to lesser premiums and save the boost but too risky for me this early
Maybe try trade Cameron out, move taranto to fwd line and get a premo mid in (either directly or with an additional downgrade). If you’re feeling up for it, could also consider trading out Neale and/or setterfield to other premos
Thing is not sure who to downgrade. What trades would you do?
Supercoach Mumma
Docherty is out for 4 to 6 weeks.
Docherty, Jones & Cameron >> Stewart, Dawson & Van Rooyen.
Leaves you with about $42K in the bank and you have brought in 2 keepers and a rookie on the bubble (who may get DPP) who might hold his spot until Gawn comes back.
Cheers Domicile- thats what I am now thinking.
Other option instead of Stewart is Josh Kelly or could do Setterfield to Clarry. I just dont know how I feel about paying up for Clarry now
Do what your heart tells you to do!!
marshall, armartey, bruce => english, JVR and Brockman
yep or nah?
Cole for:
TU: Day
TD: Rampe
What to do with worpel?
Difficult to find the funds to go up to a premo unless I trade out hopper with him.
Can we hold him one more week at least?
(BE 80)
Mid upgrade:
Bailey Smith to
Tu: Touk/Bont
Td: De Goey which allows Calla>JHF
Hi guys,
TU Duncan
TD haynes
Day may get rubbed out…
Thanks
If Constable gets named I’m going –
Mackenzie to JVR
Ginbey to Constable
Jones to Stewart
Are these bad trades? Almost certainly yes. But now I have Stewart, one less rookie on field, and feel amazing.
Need to get rid of Liam jones this week been horrible
Have 230k in the bank and looking at getting jones to tommy stew
Only way to do this tho is trade hollands who’s starting to reach his max price but could make another 30-40k maybe? down to van rooyen
Problem is I can’t get Jones to van rooyen dpp doesn’t work unless constable somehow gets a gig
TU: Looks good Jones, hollands > Stewart, Jvr
TD: Hold off
If Fahey or similar priced is named-
TU – Doch to Dawson & Phillipou to Fahey
TD – Try harder next time.
2k short of going
Chesser and Ridley to daicos and van Rooyen
So can either go
Tu Ridley and chesser – Stewart and van rooyen
Td Ridley and Davey jnr- daicos and van rooyen
Currently only have chesser and Constable as non playing rookies
Max Michalanney a good trade in for Liam Jones? Some good scores last 2 rounds and good BE. Or am I just chasing points?
Looks to me like Michalanney might have a permanent spot in Adelaides backline.
Thought I could get away with ROB over English to start the season, how was I wrong…
Im $400 short of going Davey & ROB to English & Van Rooyen, meaning I have to shed a different rookie in Wilmot.
Wilmot & ROB to Van Rooyen & English
TU: Good trade
TD: Downgrade Davey this week & wait week on English
Rookies are there to be upgraded. If going early on a rookie means you get a premo in then it’s worth it (ofc this is context dependent – Wilmot is not exactly setting the world on fire so he’s almost ready to sell anyway. Probs only has 1-2 weeks in him max. Davey is in a similar boat)
Agree Wilmot and Davey seem to be the 2 of the popular rookies who could go.
Not sure if there is a fix my team thread yet so posting here, bit confused on what to do this week as most rookies are still making $$
Open to suggestions, except getting Stewart for Young (as Young is who I got for Stewart after round 1)
170k ITB
DEF: Dawson, H. Young, Ginbey, McKenna, Wilmot, Cowan (Chesser, Constable)
MID: Oliver, Laird, Miller, Bont, Green, Setterfield, Hopper, Ashcroft (Mackenzie, Baker, Davey)
RUC: Marshall, Grundy (Madden)
FWD: Dunkley, Rozee, Ziebell, Sheezel, Philippou, Chandler (Ratagolea, F. Greene)
Thanks!
Sometimes the hardest thing to do is do nothing (profound I know).
Your rookies have a bit of time before culling I reckon.
I am also loathe to luxury trade a premo.
Cheers Shaggi, that’s sort of what I was thinking too. I don’t see it worthwhile to cull any of my existing rookies for JVR or S. Ryan
T. Young is the only one im considering for Chesser but even that I’m not sure on his JS. Setterfield and Hayden Young could be upgraded to either Taranto OR Daicos respectively, though even that I don’t see any urgency given Daicos is close to maxing out $$ wise
An extra def. is about all you need at this stage. Otherwise solid team.
Trading one to Clarry
TU Neale
TD Laird
Tom Mitchell to Clarry
Worth it?
TU/TD
Feeling a bit smug about my trades this week.
Sheed and Callaghan for Stewart and Van Rooyen.
I know I could not trade and points on field won’t vary too much. (Sheed + Callaghan = 150. Stewart + Bruce = 160). But it feels really good to bring in a premo.
Hope that the cash gen of DVR versus Callaghan and Sheed is about the same also.
I also saw the comment about DVR potentially getting ruck DPP. If that’s true and he holds his spot, then it gives me the chance to cash in Rat at R3 in a few weeks and have DVR move up to R3. I know Ryan might be a better possibility but I have missed his price rise and now don’t have enough cash for the trade.
Yeah I know this is a bit of a bragging post (apologies for that) but you gotta take the joy in this game when you can find it. We all know it can quickly slap you down.
Well smug didn’t last long! Doc out for 6 weeks wipes that grin off my face so quick. Didn’t even last 4 hours, let alone a week.
TU Doc>Dawson & Phillipou>JVR
TD rethink
With Doch now out for 4+. Lock this in!
I’m considering it. Though also considering not going Dawson as I need 2 trades to make that happen. Waiting to see what whether Hawks appeal Days suspension.
Docherty, marshall and setterfield to
Michallaney, english and LDU
Yes do it
No waste of trade boost ( will have used 3now)
Don’t trade Marshall this week. He plays the Pies and they don’t have a ruck.
I don’t mind the other two trades and you save a Boost.
L.Jones and Worpel definitely on the chopping block this week. Have an extra $180k in the bank
Thinking L.Jones, downgrade to Tylar Young (not many other rookie options in DEF)
Worpel > Libba or De Goey
Rookies should dictate your structure. Downgrade to a mid or forward rookie and bring in a defensive premo
does DPP come into play after this upcoming round?
Yes that is correct!
With byes in mind, I’ve narrowed down my first upgrade to….
T/U Stewart
T/D Touk
Docherty -> Dawson
Flynn -> Grundy
Chandler -> Van Rooyen
TU: yep
TD: nope
looking to upgrade and get rid of jones, ridley and worpel… which is the better option:
TU : Ridley > Stewart
Worpel > De Goey
Jones > JVR (Via DPP)
TD: Ridley > Duncan
Worpel > LDU
Jones > JVR (Via DPP)
who should i upgrade Wilmot to?
Options are Rioli at 486k or
Duncan at 485k
Rioli has been racking them up, however twice scored under 70 and twice above 125
Duncan first game back and has put up 116
Thoughts?
Neither. Wierd price point to be upgrading too. Wait until you can get a better premo
Docherty reported to have meniscus tear with 4-6 week turn around –
Hard to split….
Tu) Doch and Mackenzie to Dawson and Samson Ryan.
Td) Doch, Setterfield & Ridley to Dawson, Touk and Michalanney.
Do you rate Samson Ryan?
Should get a good go now Nank is out
Exactly the thought process. Interested to see team sheets, but both Lynch and Nank out, with Soldo at least a week or two away, makes Samson a greater choice over JVR IMO.
Copy that.
I’m bringing in Samson Ryan, JVR and DeGoey For Carmiti, Baker and Mackenzie.
Got $170k in the reserves to use so looking to make some decent upgrades
Docherty -> Dawson
Setterfield -> Cripps
Phillipou -> van Rooyen
TU: Yes
TD: No
Oopy
1. Yes, Doch out for 4 to 6.
2 No Rush, no necessity
3 Do you have anyone else apart from Phillipou?
He will still make money. Chesser?
TU: Docherty-Stewart, 27 trades left
TD:Docherty-dawson
davey-van rooyen, 26 trades left
Davey shoulder could mean missing a week, is this the way to go to get dawson? or just stick with stewart?
Doch > Day (assuming no suspension)
Madden > Samson Ryan
I don’t like getting rid of Madden but Chesser fills the loophole role in my SC team.
Too early to pull the trigger on my other cows IMO.
I like assuming Day gets let off the hook
Hoping my positive energy and optimism sways the MRO!
2 weeks!
TU: Out Doch, Darcy Cameron, Jones In Dawson, JVR, Gulden + Cash
TD: Out Doch, Darcy Cameron, Jones In Dawson, JVR, Stewart
Comment TU Out Doch, Darcy Cameron, Jones In Dawson, JVR, Josh Kelly
Can you stretch to Touk Miller in-place of Jelly?
Unfortunately not, $614k ITB. I can get to Touk if I trade in Stewart over Dawson though
TU: Jelly
TD: Libba
Trading out Docherty now he is out 4 to 6 weeks
TU Stewart
TD Sicily
Already have Daicos and Dawson Ginbey Mckenna Wilmot
Have to trade Doch out with only $22.6k in the bank, hesitant to downgrade any rookies as all of them have plenty of cash left to make. Have DPP on every line so can swing pretty much anywhere.
TU: Doch > Van Rooyen, use cash for massive upgrades later
TD: Phillipou > Van Rooyen, Doch > defensive premo
Comment: Take a flyer on Lloyd/Baker/Day (if not suspended) and hope.
TU: Take a flyer on one of those 3 and hope
Will depends on if your playing for leagues or rankings.
If playing for ranking trade for a like for like player
If not trade to JVR and just let a few other cash cows fatten and be ready to attack in 1-2 weeks
Doc > mid or forward Premo.
TU: Stewart + Touk
TD: Dawson + Jelly
Shame Sheezel or Ziebell can’t go back yet given Doch news.
Agree Wighty.
If Constable gets up there’s a chance you could hold Doc a week and then trade him to Forward when the Dpps happen. Cogs will be Sub $500k at this rate.
Lots of punters praying for one more game from Constable. Can hold him as long as another warm body on the def/mid bench to cover him. Thought Cowan and Hollands might be under pressure this week with Walsh/Acres, but Doch means more of a chance for them to stay.
Do dpp changes happen before or after R6 ??
After Round 5 I believe, so you should be able to move them going into Round 6.
Docherty replacement in 1 trade. Don’t have anything in the bank to get someone at a higher price.
TU: Lloyd
TD: Redman
Hey Rigor.
Redman probably has more upside but his floor is a real worry.
Lloyd looks to be more consistent this year, saying that I’m not sure he has a huge ceiling with guys like Blakley and Florent getting more ball. I would look at Day and take the extra cash if he is cleared to play.
Could you DPP into a Mid/forward?
pretty simple.
TU: stewart
TD: Dawson
My exact condundrum.
Well, really it’s Stewart + $40K or Dawson. Hard to know whether the 40K is worth it.
Trading out – Doc, Ridley and Callaghan
Trading in – Stewart, Ryan and Van Rooyen
Currently ranked top 2k so trying to chase points.
Leaves me with 27 trades and 140k in bank.
TU or TD?
Steve.
Congrats on your rank, I’m not sure how many boosts you have used already ?
I think Ryan to Ridley is a little to sideways. I’m not sure Ryan keeps up this scoring so maybe wait a week or two and try and get in a Sicily or Sinclair ( both have high BE’s ) for Ridley.
Thanks for the feedback, decided to hold Ridley and get Ryan as my downgrade too. Fingers crossed!
Hey all, so got $559k if i trade doc which is under my wanted premos (Dawson, Stewart, Saad, Ryan, Sinclair). Also expecting Day to be suspended. Should I:
TU: trade doc to one off Lloyd / Baker / Redman
TD: play Wilmot from my bench and wait until next week for any value
TU: Jones to Jelly
TD: Setterfield to Clarry
Trading Doch out and have 647k ITB…
Do I bring in
Stewart?
Ryan?
Saad?
Sinclair?
Dawson?
I’m thinking Stewart would like to hear other opinions though!
Already have Daicos !!
I’d go Dawson. Super consistent, takes kick-ins and teams tend to prioritise tagging laird.
Saad is solid
Docherty to…
TU: Ryan
TD: Stewart
Sorry for cursing Will Day!
Doch options (under 533K):
TU: Lloyd
TD: Duncan
Comment: someone else
Rivers?
T/U: Neale, McKenzie, Allen -> Dawson/Stewart, Taranto, T. Young
T/D: Chesser -> T. Young and hold the cows
Phillipou to:
T/U Samson Ryan
T/D Jacob van Rooyen
To fund Doch > Dawson.
Cheers
what’s everyone doing with day?
Trade – TU
hold – TD
Will they try challenge it ?
Doc – Stewart
Davey – JVR
thinking about doing a mega trade this week.
Doch + Setterfield + Jones > Dawson + Oliver + Van rooyen
it hurts not having a captain option every-week so really want Oliver in, but also very hesitant to trade setterfield out.
TU: Go for it
TD: keep it simple (only make 1 trade)
Docherty to…
TU: Stewart
TD: Lloyd
Already have Dawson & Daicos.
Alternatively, Docherty to…
TU: Stewart
TD: Sinclair
Comment: Sicily
Doc to either Stuart, Sinclair or Miller (via DPP)
All 3 are reliable premos and have friendly byes .
Nankervis to…
TU: English
TD: Grundy
Already have Marshall.
Gawn back in 1-2 weeks it seems.
Absolutely English.
I’m thinking Day to McGovern and then Doc to Daicos.
McGovern will find more of the footy and take more kick outs with Doc out, he’s got Crows and then back to Marvel where he just scored 124.
Day an easy upgrade target in 2 weeks
T/U – Yep
T/D – Nup
What’s a sensible amount of trades to have used by end of round 4? I currently have 31 remaining, but considering using a boost this week to sort the Doch/Day situation.
No idea whats sensible. I have 28 remaining including 3 boosts.
Look at how many promo spots you have left to fill, then double that as most likely have to go one up one down to get premos in then add 5/6 trades for injuries and you will have how many trades you should need
That’s a good way to look at it. Thanks.
Chesser + Doch > Sampson Ryan + Saad
Chesser + Doch > Sampson Ryan + Stewart
Cheers for the feedback guys!
Finalising FP while undecided on this dilemma lol.
Tu) Oliver and Tylar Young (I’d need to field Young, and I’d be VC’ing Oliver)
Td) Touk and Michalanney
31 trades itb, ranked around 30kish, been slowly coming up from initially 70k rank.
Macrae worth trading to a performing premo (touk, Ndaicos). Thinking that even if he eventually bounces back, it may cost me overall rank, whereas could trade to a premo scoring 20ppg more, and then upgrade to macrae later in szn if he comes good
Tu; yes, enough trades itb to make the sideways move
Td: stay conservative.
You don’t have Daicos?
That’s a priority trade in. If Macrae is your only avenue to Naicos, pull the trigger.
TU Jelly
TD Touk
TU Dawson+ Stewart
TD Stewart + Touk
TU: Out Doch, Darcy Cameron, Jones In Touk, JVR, Stewart
TD: Out Doch, Darcy Cameron, Jones In Dawson, JVR, Stewart
Ridley > D.Rioli
Docherty > Redman
Tu: Yes
Or
Td: no
What is all the talk of trading out Neale. Am I missing something here. Surely not hugely bad and will come good as an Uber.
Better option to trade to JVR to free up funds?
Tu- Worpel (BE 80)
Td- Davey/Philipou
I think if Day is out Worpel gets some CBAs and mid time back this week (or two)
Have I missed the boat on Ziebell?
No injury concerns but could go Worpel to Ziebella via DPP as I have 100k ITB.
T/U – Ridley -> Dawson + 38k
T/D – Hold Ridley and 170k
Docherty’s injury has made my trade decision for me.
Looking at 2 options.
T/U Doc to Daicos (yes I don’t have him) in one trade as I have $126k ITB
T/D Doc to van Rooyen via DPP
Setterfield to Oliver (started Setterfield so made nearly 100k)
Hopper to Touk Miller
Option one saves a boost and gets a top 6 defender.
Option 2 gets me 2 top 10 mids but means I will have to field either Wilmot or Cowan for one week until I shift Sheezel to defence.
Doch to Michalnney then Ziebell/Sheezel down back next week, plus Miller this week for any of Baker/Davey/Long, with JVR coming in as well
T/u do it and pass on Daicos/Stewart/Sinclair
T/d keep it simple and straight swap Doch…I have the cash
If you don’t have Daicos, get Daicos.
If you have Daicos and Dawson…
Get Sinclair (Def) or Miller (mid)
Your Def will be fine shifting Sheezel (and possibly Ziebell) next week as well as targeting Day at his reduced price.
TU: Doch + Chester -> Stewart + Van Rooyen
TD: Doch + Davey -> Dawson + Van Rooyen
My midfield needs a serious injection of quality so I want to bring in Clarry. Aside from a sideways trade of some non-performing premo (I have quite a few!), the only rookie who is priced highly enough is Ashcroft.
TU – make the trade and enjoy having a regular C/VC option
TD – the kid still has more money to make
Planning to go with:
OUT: Docherty, L Jones & Setterfield
IN: Dawson, Duncan & Van Rooyen
TU: Looks good
TD: Nope!
TU: JVR
TD: Sampson Ryan
Hey everyone I’m ranked in the top 2k am I crazy for thinking of going
setters to Pickett as a POD & cash grab.
His role seems so good right now & Melb team isn’t going to change his role if players return. Can he keep this level of scoring 90+ up to make it worth it??
If you like Cozzie, then back him as a premium and trade 2 rookies for him.
TU
Doc to LDU
Ridley to Dawson
Save boost
TD
Doc to Oliver
Ridley to Dawson
Liam Jones to Samson Ryan
TU – Doch + Day + Mackenzie > Saad + Lloyd/Redman + JVR
TU – Doch + Day + Ginbey > Dawson + Michalanney + JVR
I’ve sent Day to my bench, where he can sit for two weeks and think about what he’s done:) I just can’t see anyone at his price with his cash gen and scoring upside and will be def/mid dpp. Just not worth a trade imho.Then again I’m not 9th either:)
TU – Samson Ryan
TD – Jacob Van Rooyen
Ridley > Buckley
Did > Dawson
Doc*
Is it worth going Laird > Oliver
Is Ridley a must trade out? I’ve noticed a lot of people are moving him on, my gut says to hold for now.
Nah hold. Essendon’s def has a few too many players but he’ll average 90+ and won’t lose money.
It’s not fun watching teams get away but your better off accepting you have a solid D6 and not sideswapping premiums.
More important things I’m sure at this stage.
I feel you, a Ridley to a Stewart looks so good right now but I feel with cows ripening up soon, the more money in the bank for that period the better. And I still have hope he can bump up his scores haha…
Jones -> Michalanney
Missed the boat?
TU: Yes, find someone else
TD: Nope, get him, the Jones trial is a fail.
T/U: Doc -> Oliver and hold Ridley
T/D: Boost Doc and Ridley -> Dawson and LDU
Better D3 going forward
TU Sinclair
TD Stuart
Both pretty good however I think Stewart gets the nod due to his favourable bye situation
Sinclair has the rd 12 bye so his bye is also pretty good. Only 4 teams miss that week. And he’d be availiable every other bye round.
Doesn’t have Docs ceiling but is more consistent… hmm.
Why is everyone so keen on JVR? Ben Brown due to come back very soon. Surely Sampson Ryan is a better pick over JVR
Samson Ryan is the worst player I’ve ever seen in the afl.
Not to mention Gawn
Nah, Gawn plays plays pretty good
Chesser and Worpel are going for JVR and Ryan.
Question is do i go Setterfield to Touk as well….
Why trade Chesser he’s a useful DPP loop.
Just do 1 trade with Worpel unless your really hard up for cash
Looking to trade Docherty out but don’t have the cash to upgrade have 528k
TU: Redman
TD: Lloyd
Or comment any other thoughts ?
What to do with Worpel?
T/U – trade to Stewart/Day via Constable DPP.
TD – keep and fix other issues.
For me would depend on days suspension if day is still suspended you could hold him if day gets off move him on
Touk going to get tagged this weekend? Want to bring him in but am wary
Who do I replace Doch with:
TU: Stewart
TD: Touk via DPP
Backline already has Dawson, Daicos, Ridley. Do I keep a 4th premo Def or ugrade my Mid? Then fielding Ginbey McKenna Wilmot/Cowan
Can you do Ridley to Stewart & doc to Touk? Would be ideal!
Who do I replace Doch with
TU: Stewart
tD: Dawson
Have a ranking of 6.5k, so I want to see how high up I can climb.
Docherty replacement
T/U: Redman, will mean Mckenzie for M8.
T/D: Warner, will mean Wilmont on field for D6.
Ultimately, can do a double trade and get Stewart, Sincliar etc…but I think i’m leaning toward the value option before making downgrades and bringing in these premos in the next couple weeks. Day was the perfect trade from Doch but shit happens!
What are your thoughts?
Wilmont would only be D6 for 1 week.
Would go Warner over Redman due to role certainty/floor. Lots of guys taking lots of the SuperCoach pie in Essendon’s defence.
Docherty > Stewart
Davey > JVR (via DPP Gulden)
TU or TD?
My apologies in advance if this might be a dumb question… but why is this “Trade Talk – Round 4” and not “Trade Talk – Round 5”? The trades to be made are for Rd5 and all the other forward looking regulars such as “The teams”, “Fallen Premos”, “Captaincy Options” etc all reference the next Rd not the last round.
TU Yep, duh.
TD shut up idiot
So you’re saying I should reverse trades?
29 trades left before trades this week
TU
Doc to Oliver
Ridley to Dawson
Liam Jones to Samson Ryan
TD
Doc to Oliver
Save the trades and hold Ridley and Jones for now
Have to trade one in. Who is more chance of a seniors gig
TU – Blake drury
TD – cincotta
Don’t trade in a donut
what do with witts?
Phillipou to JVR, Doc to Daicos, Day to Redman
T/U or T/D?
Wait for the outcome of Day’s appeal, good chance it gets reduced to 1 week. Then I’d suggest keeping him.
Best option to trade to JVR for cash flow?
TU – A Davey
TD -F Callaghan
Is Jones to Michalanney too much of a sideways trade?
TU: Yes. Keep faith in Jones
TD: No, Michalanney has cash to make. Do it!
TU Touk
TD LDU
Factoring in price value and Touk tag this weekend
Does tyler young have job security in the current tigers side. (E.g. could play most games until bye time)
TU: yes
TD: no
Is it worth trading Davey to S.Ryan?
TU: Worth the trade with Nank out
TD: Save that trade
TU: RYAN
TD: STEWART
Davey and Doch to Stewart and JVR
Is Jones to Michaelanney a waste of a trade?
Allows me to go Doch -> Sinclair
Who’s more a priority to trade in
TU: Stewart
TD: LDU
All depends on structure of your side
TU: DUNCAN
TD: RAMPE
Doc > Redman
Or
Doc > Stewart
And down grade Davey to Corey Warner
TU: Sicily
TD: Stewart
Who to downgrade first?
TU: A.Davey
Or
TD: Noah Long
Doch -> kozzie?
400k bank for upgrades season.
Will loop wilmot/cowan for one week til sheezel or ziebell swing back.. will grab Sinclair or sic next week after they drop $$. I already own Dawson
TU: Touk
TD: Brayshaw
Or
TU: Jelly
Im considering Tim Kelly now that there’s some outs with the eagles hee going to be the main man and his scores have showed it
Very dependant on Teams but the window is tight considering it potentially involves Hollands
Doc->Stewart then a boost to…
TU – Witts+Davey(?)->English,JVR
TD – Setterfield+Hollands->S.Ryan,Gulden
Is it worth trading Amartey out for Van rooyen?
TU Yes Amartey will probably get dropped and Van rooyen is safe for a few more weeks
TD No Van rooyen will likely be dropped and Amartey just put in a one off stinker?
From memory Amartey had 19 at 1/4 time and managed another 2 points for the game!
Who’s the better option this week?
T/U: Samson Ryan
T/D: Max Michalanney
Who needs to go first ?
TU: Worpel
Or
TD: Callaghan
Why not both and upgrade to a premium?
Can someone please talk me out of Kozi Pickett? 365k with a BE of -24. Has been scoring well but small sample size and typically a role like his is not consistent.
T/U- gets a rookie off the field, worth the risk
T/D – stick to a cheap rookie this week like JVR, samson ryan
Midprice madness doesn’t make much sense mid season as it 2 trades. One to trade him in and 1 to trade him out for a real premium.
You always want to maintain the value of a trade. So you should get 150k trading to Kozzie if he’s a rookie and you should make 150k after trading him out.
At his price that doesn’t work so you’re picking him as an underpriced premium. A premium for 360k is great value. But there’s a reason he’s 360k it’s a very risky pick
Fire it up and be the envy of all teams when Kozzy goes nuts for the next 6 weeks
TU Jones to Touk
TD Ridley to Clarry
TU Setterfield to Clarry
TD Ridley to Clarry
TU Ridley to Clarry
TD Setterfield to Clarry
Hi, all any thoughts would be much appreciated. $61,500k ITB, 31 trades (four boosts). Traded DCAM to Grundy last week, thinking of going Doch & Finn to LDU and Michalanney
Current team before likely trades
DEF: Dawson, Docherty, Daicos, Ginbey, McKenna, Wilmot (Constable, Cowan)
MID: Laird, Bont, Merrett, Green, Hopper, Callaghan, Ashcroft, Phillips (Baker, McLean, A.Davey)
RUC: Grundy, Marshall (Madden)
FWD: Dunkley, Rozee, Taranto, Ziebell, Sheezel, Chandler (Phillipou, Greene)
The only reason to go back to 2 prem defs is I presume your waiting for Ziebel and Sheezel to get DPP.
Have Doc, ridley and Flanders on my bench and 120k in the bank
T/U: Doc to Oliver (Via ginbey) and flanders to Van Rooyen (leaves my backline with daicos, ridley, ginbey, McKenna, jones, Cowan)
T/D: Doc to Stewart/Dawson and flanders to Van Rooyen
Comment: Doc to Oliver, flanders to Van Rooyen and Ridley to Stewart/Ryan
Forgot to mention have 33 trades going into this week.
Comment: Doc to Oliver, Flanders to Van Rooyen, Ridley to Stewart
Hi guys,
TU Duncan
FD Haynes
Thanks
Now this might be crazy but..
Doc, Setterfield, Hopper > Dawson, Stewart, Van Rooyen
TU: Yes
TD: No
32 trades coming into the round, and my team has been stinking it up to start the season.
Looking at JVR as part of a three way with Doch…with Brown back, is JVR js weak ??
Will day out for 2 weeks, what to do ?
TU : Sell
Or
TD: Hold
Hey everyone!
I’ve got 30 trades left. Wondering if I go Stewart with 1 trade or use 2 trades to get Dawson.
TU: Docherty to Stewart
TD: Docherty & Davey to Dawson & Van Rooyen
Thanks!
Julian
Bazlenka out for:
TU: T.Kelly
TD: De Gey
Comment others
Davey to JVR ???? Only nets $70k or so, and I’m worried about the return of Brown to JVR cash gen.
T/u Do the trade
T/d Hold…it will be precious later on
Doc to Dawson and Liam Jones to Samson Ryan done – 27 trades left
TU
Ridley to Oliver
TU
Save Trade/boost