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Lame, should be free!
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It should definitely be ad-free if we’re paying $3 for it
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An open letter to the Herald Sun.
Dear Herald Sun
Let me kick things off with a few dot points:
* Supercoach sells more Herald Sun newspapers – I don’t have the numbers but I’m sure its not insignificant.
* The Herald Sun in 2011 charged $1 for The Little Black Book which used to come free in 2010 because it sold more papers. Any plans to bump the price of it up again in 2012?
* The Herald Sun also charges $19.95 p.a. for SuperCoach Gold – the addendum package to SC which gives you little more than the stats which are freely available on other websites. You get better advice from this website than from whatever monkey you pay to recommend players via that.
* The iPhone app is charged for on an annual basis rather than a user paying for it once and then getting a free update every year like you do with every single other app I’ve ever purchased. Think: Angry Birds.
* The app is one of the few that I’m aware of that you pay for that bombards you with mindnumbing, unwanted advertising.
* Because the SC website is so cumbersome and slow SC coaches need the app to make quick changes to their teams on a Friday night when Channel 7 FINALLY announces the teams (don’t get me started on that!) and you’re at the pub enjoying a beer with your mates with no access to a computer.
* Supercoach is a far better competition than DT but:
* Live score updates are available with DT
* The DT app is free
* The DT app is ad-free
C’mon Herald Sun, don’t treat your SuperCoach fans like cash cows that can be milked and sold to like brainless idiots. Keep pushing us away with this sort of evil money-grabbing behaviour and you’re gonna lose us.
Yours Sincerely
Motts, SuperCoachTalk
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And now I see that the Dream Team Talk boys are behind the advice provided in SuperCoach Gold:
RoyDT: @WarnieDT and @CalvinDT check out the sledge you cop on this guys post @SC_Talk. Apparently you are monkeys re: selection advice.
Epic, epic fail. Does the Herald Sun have no idea about the differences between the two competitions??
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Thank goodness this website is not endorsed, sponsored by or affiliated with the Herald Sun!!!
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Very amusing Deano, do you think we should take a chance and remove the disclaimer?!
Had a good laugh with Motts on the blower about this comment, among other interesting goings on about the Internet tonight.
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I think the diclaimer is now moot Ducky! All you need to do is put a link to Mottsy’s comment up there.
Kudos to the big fella for having the kahunas in print what we all think.
May need to find a new marketing strategy though!
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and don’t forget the Weekly Times too Deano … lol
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Stick it to the man Mottsy, let ‘em lawsuits fly
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Angry Birds rocks!
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Motts has gone crazy cray cray….. next thing you’ll be giving away 3 inch hose bits.
LYW champ…. I love a good rant, especially when not directed at me.
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Oh Motts, is now a good time to say our web site is charging $0.99 per subscription? Actually, if SC Gold is worth $19.95, and our site is 1000 times better, then we can charge $19,950.00 per user.
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As I explained to you last night, Warnie, while we here at SCT respect you as a DT expert, you hold yourself out to be exactly that. So why on earth would News Ltd / Virtual Sports use you for expert analysis of SC when at the same time they try to promote the subtle differences between the 2 games?
I have never used SC Gold so I didn’t know who was the “expert” when I referred to them as a monkey. Don’t take that personally.
We appreciate your support, mate. You’re always welcome here. Who knows, you may even learn a couple of things that will help with your SC advice
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Maybe the punter that wins this year will credit their win solely to the advice they received from SC Gold.
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Seeing as it will be me that’s not bloody likely.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Well said once again Motts
That’s nearlly as funny as saying that the little black book will help you win the SC competition.
After reading all the posts regarding this subject this morning Mott’s, I’m personally proud to be a part of your fastasic web site. HS, black book, SC Gold & all the other rubbish dished up on a weekly & yearly basis means nothing to me…..SCT & the SCT coaches feed back to me is the only thing I rely on as I can comfortably say……I trust it & it costs me donut’s!
Once again Motts, Duck & Big Sexy keep up the fine work as all of us think your amazing & do a wonderful job for the true footy follower that loves fantasy football.
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Appreciate your support, Catta. Thanks for the kind words mate.
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Warnie, I have no doubt that you have an in depth knowledge on all things DT, as shown in numerous articles and videos in your website. I also respect the fact that you play and know a fair bit about SC too. However, now knowing that yourself, Calvin and Roy, the creators of a DT specific website, are behind the articles provided on Supercoach Gold has disappointed me somewhat. It just seems odd that the HS have employed a DT expert. Obviously you know SC too, but so do a lot of people on this site that don’t cloud their minds with anything DT at all.
Keep up the good work over on DTTalk.
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The way that the HS milks the supercoach cow really grinds my gears.
Well spoken Motts.
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I can tell you there will be live scoring available this year.but it will cost to access this along with additional cost for sc gold. live stats i think will be around $3 pw. ive seen and done testing on it.
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$3 per week? Plus $19.95 for Supercoach Gold? Plus $3 for a shit app? Plus more for the Little Black Book? I hope everyone leaves and joins Dream Team and teaches Herald Sun/Supercoach a lesson!
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Hey SCT coaches……7 spots left in my last DT comp this season
League name…..DT is ST Rugglin….. code no is 183598
It only has SCT coaches in it so far & I’d like to keep it that way, join in & take on Motts & the boys!
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Thanks Guys, the league is now full!
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Why am I not surprised? Thanks for sharing, pb.
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Paperboy?? Interesting nickname that. Do we have an inside man? A double agent mayhaps?
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No-one seriously expects a NewsLtd business to provide something without trying to make a profit do they?
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No little black book this year either guys….
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Finally on android but I still prefer using the browser,
As Bruno Mars puts it, the Herald Sun
‘ Oh, take, take, take it all but you never give. Should’ve known you was trouble…” lol
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aussie rules have always been the people,s game from day dot , but now greedy corporations want a piece of the pie ( I won,t name em ) . e.g …Any live game for instances is going to be a thing of the past and if you want to watch live games you going to have to pay for it through your teeth . The afl has sold our game out for a quick buck .sorry rant over .
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Scatts … isn’t there actually MORE live footy on free-to-air than ever before? Friday night and Saturday night are both live plus from my recollection aren’t Sat and Sun arvo’s too (or at least only on a 30 min delay).
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30min delay AINT live, roo bloke. HS are gunna lose a lot of supercoaches to DT next yr with all this crap. $3 pw for live scores is a rort & the new app is just as dodgy as last season! NOT HAPPY.
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All i’m saying is that the free to air is better than last year …. point being that HS are yes, trying to eek out money blah blah blah but Ch7 are giving us a better product than we’ve previously had on Ch7 and Ch10.
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Does it really matter that HS is going to charge for all of their “assistance and inside knowledge”? I understand that as a collective group we are trying to win our league and overall competition for $50k but as Motts points out, You can find all of this information elsewhere for nothing as long as you are willing to do the research. You don’t need the HS crap to punch out a capable team you just need to use your nouse. While having the app is a good thing when on the go, we have been getting by without it for years and it is not neccesary. I for one will not be using any of the crap that requires me to pay for it simply out of principle. I agree with you Motts about the Monkeys but these monkeys will be charging us to play the competition itself in the not to distant future. $50.00 to play for the year just you wait.
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It’s not just about the $3 Les.
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It’s the principle of the matter les. I refuse to pay for SC Gold (I can find SC gold right here!), and for live scoring (I can wait for 30 minutes). I was conteplating getting the app but now put off with horrific accounts of its crapness.
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Im with Juddy, be smart, give them nothing. I WILL NOT pay for this crap app!
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I got the app, only because I know there will be times I’m away from the PC and I have to make a last min trade or captain decision while attending some kind of annoying family event on a Friday.
However having adds in a paid app is a “beyond the pale”!
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The $3 for the app is only the beginning, just you wait and see. The whole fantasy thing is worth millions and millions now in various revenue streams excluding what they get from the players themselves. This is when they start to slowly extract from the people who play the game because we love it and they know they can!
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If corporations think that there is a way to make money then they will explore all avenues in an effort to do just that. Why do we play SC and DT? So that we can have a chance at $1k weekly and $50k overall as well as thrashing our mates but initially it is to try and win the cash. There will probably be 400,000 teams registered this year and more the following years. When (and they will) the powers that be start charging to play you will still find that majority will keep going because playing SC is what we enjoy doing. $20 next year (it’s only $20 Les-seriously) will be raised to 30 the year after etc. At $20 per team you only need 50 thousand teams to enroll and that is a cool mill. This would have been the long term plan about SC and DT all along.
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Is anyone willing to pay the $2.95 for the SC app for android, and then send it to me for half the price…that will have the HS by the balls…
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Echo your sentiments Catta. Appreciate all the good work the lads do here
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I’m not fully in there with the Twitter stuff but is this guy calling SC_Talk (Motts?) an opportunist tip rat??
“David Hopkins @hoppasaurus
@SC_Talk perfect answer from an opportunist tip rat. All the best knackers.. @WarnieDT @RoyDT @CalvinDT”
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I’m usually the voice of SCT on Twitter but on this occasion, Duck was providing some of the history. Hoppa was happy not to listen and just pass judgement though. We blocked him. Solved.
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Motts i was curious if you would be releasing your team on SCTalk, and if it would be before or after the official AFL season starts? If so will you give reason for selections?
Cheers.
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I did last year mate and as much as it compromises me in any number of competitions I’m in I’ll do so again this year.
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good to hear, looking forward to seeing if your employing the rookie ruck strat, if ur taking any gambles (grimes, porp, lake etc.) hahah, feels like i’m waiting for christmas.
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Going off by just his twitter tag, I reckon he talks a lot $H!T
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I’m cool with that Motts I just still can’t believe that a parent would give their 4 yr old hippopotamus a phone and a Twitter account to come up with that drivel. Well handled sir!
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I read that Twitter feed. Nasty and uncalled IMHO. Don’t put up those inflammatory remarks. Motts did the sensible thing to end it by blocking. Otherwise it just continues with dribble
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Much to my distaste, the App had to be purchased for the simple reason a hectic work schedule prevents me from always having access to a computer. Leaves an awfully bad taste in BigRuss’ mouth. Something akin to cat $hit.
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Does everyone realise you can’t get pure live scoring on Supercoach? This is due to the scaling that occurs at the end of each quarter weighting the scores based on the 825 points availiable per quarter (3,300 per match) – I don’t think the have changed this. This is the obvious reason that HS only provide quarter by quarter updates. There is an app called footy star that provides ‘live’ SC and DT score. It can be temperamental (sometimes slow to update SC) especially with the coverage you get when another 30,000 people are checking their phones at intervals. Does anyone know of a better one?
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