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First time posting in here, long time reader..
Heres my current picks
Def – Lloyd, Ryan, S. May, Milera, L. Jones, Gould ( Wehr, Highmore )
Mid – Neale, Merret, Rockliff, Laird, Phillips, Campbell, Powell, Macrae ( Valente, Durdin, Downie )
Ruck – Gawn, ROB ( Treacy )
Forward – Sidebottom, Dusty, Walters,
B. brown, Kelly, Cockatoo ( Holmes, Rioli )
$98500 in the bank.
Not sure if I have the right balance between premos, mid pricers and rookies..
Maybe too many starting rookies? Or should I take a gamble on more mid pricers hoping they breakout?
Any tips or advice would be great!
Interesting team. May a risk down back as key defs and key fwds traditionally not big scorers. Maybe switch Laird there and free up another gun mid. Rocky gonna give you a rocky ride and big highs and lows. Which Philipps in the mids ? Don’t have two kanga mids rookies there. Like the ROB pick as a pod or stepping stone. Rioli not going to get much game time…don’t know Holmes. Consider Spicer and Rowe as fwd bench ??
Good luck !!
Taking your advice on board im thinking of these changes.
Rockliff, Laird & Phillips changed to Oliver, Cripps & Hollands. May to Laird. And also changing the forward bench options.
Leaves me with $21500 in the bank.
Much more solid
Pretty sure hollands won’t play early. And I’d really try and keep Phillips in your team if you can, not a must have but a nice to have for sure.
He’ll be one less headache when it comes to fielding rookies, should score and play every week.
Your other changes look spot on.
If you have the Nth Philipps, keep him. Like the other changes.
I would use part of the $215 and switch to Grundy. That will save you a trade. Money on the bench is investing in the bench.
Money in the bank is losing points.
“Rocky gonna give you a rocky ride” Brilliant.
Thank you 🙂
May in Defence, Ben Brown in forward line and no demon player in mid. Your fortunes will be interlinked. Ben brown is little doubtful, Walters is little unpredictive. Whenever I picked he failed, and when I sold him off he fired all cylinders. I think it depends where the team puts him on the match day. With Serong in, Waletrs could be in wings or forward line. You have 12 keepers so team should do well, But it would be your choice of rookies, which will take you to elite.
An apology.
I have made some comments recently that were out of line and embarrassed my dad Wighty. I have been under pressure of late…first my gf dumped me, then my bf…..then those two ran off together which was hard to take.
At least now I can properly concentrate on my SC team and learning the intricacies of wine varieties.
So long as they didn’t take your playstation too.
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, McDonald, Grainger-Baras, Jones, Gould (Highmore, Laurie)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Jelly, Walsh, Rowell, W.Phillips, Pedlar, Powell (Valente, Stephens, Downie)
RUC: Gawn, English (Treacy)
FWD: Marshall, Heeney, De Goey, T.Thomas, Hutchings, Cockatoo (Macrae, Rowe)
Risky team in some places, mainly the forward line but I feel off the back of last year with players like Simpkin, Brayshaw, B.Smith it’s a place where you can gamble and more than likely a gamble pays off.
De Gooey injured, Hutchings won’t be a certain starter, otherwise good February team 🙂
Will need a revisit based on DeGoey’s injury and the revelations about how bad Heeney’s injury was.
Other than that it was very solid until that point, and a good POD with English
Have gone with a strategy of batting deep in the midfield, much subject to change still.
DEF: Lloyd, Whitfield, Witherden, Grainger-Barass, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Laurie)
MID: Neale, Lyons, M Crouch, Cripps, Rowell, Cunnington, Powell, Cockatoo (Poulter, Downie, Gulden)
RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
FWD: Sidebottom, Marshall, Ziebell, Dow, Kelly, Cook (Rowe, McCreery)
$39, 200 itb. Thoughts?
If Cunnington is going to play more forward his injury discount will be eaten up by his lower scoring as a forward. IMHO. I think you can do better than Witherden too.
Witherden -> Milera and you can upgrade Cunnington to a $600k uber premium,
or Cunnington -> Hately and you can get Luke Ryan or Rory Laird.
Good team. Only concern is there are a number of players that might not play every game. Whitfield, Cunners and Ziebell are Q marks along with the unknown durability of Rowell.
TU – Lloyd, Hately, dusty
TD – Whitfield, Oliver, rozee
Lloyd, Oliver, Rozee maybe?
Lyodd Whitfield and oliver
But who are you dropping elsewhere to pay for it?
Hey guys looking forward to getting into another SuperCoach season.
This is my initial lineup so let’s here the feedback, disregard rookies ATM
DEF – Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Jones (PTA), Bianca, Gould (Thompson (GC), Highmore)
MID – Neale, Oliver, Titch, Adams, Hately, Powell (NTH), Stephens, McInness (Gollant, Valente, Durdin (CARL))
RUCK – G&G (Treacy)
FWD – Danger, Marshall, Sidebottom, Zeibell, F Macrae, Cockatoo (Rowe, M Rioli)
More a FYI: Titch is touch and go for round 1 last I heard and Danger is missing some session with a groin problem.
I might be miscounting, but I think you have 8 guys with the round 14 bye too.
Cheers for the feedback I’ll look into it
What is everyone’s thoughts on Adam Cerra? Do we think Fyfe will spend more time forward giving him a chance to step up? I recognise if picked he isn’t a stepping stone, but can he finish close to a top 8 mid?
Any thoughts are much appreciated, can’t wait to have footy back!
Thinking way outside the box this year, I just can’t justify the G&G price tags.
Question mark on where Witherden fits into that strong Eagles Premiership backline, but very excited about the option of this running half-back gives that team.
Certainly by no means settled, but I see value in fallen guns to new clubs.
I’m going with my gut instinct on the rucks, to both improve out of sight.
4 players at new clubs, Preusse-Witherden-Young & Cockatoo
Will look closely at Witherden, Hately & Milera in the coming weeks to see if Laird stays as my midfield sweeper between lines.
DEF: LLOYD, WHITFIELD, Witherden, Grainger-Baras, Young, Gould
(Winder, A.Fyfe-Loophole)
MID: NEALE, OLIVER, MERRETT, CRIPPS, LAIRD d/p, Hately,W.Phillips, Powell
(Valente, Cook, Durdin)
RUC: O’BRIEN, Preusse
(Treacy)
FWD: SIDEBOTTOM, MARSHALL, MARTIN, Ziebell, F.Macrae, Hollands (Cockatoo, Rowe)
$18,500 ITB
Not sold on Witherden or Zerrett.
Why not Merrett?
Not really sold on a few of these players but sitting on this for now til we get more info on rookies in JLT.
Laird, Whitfield, McDonald, Williams, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Highmore)
Oliver, Merrett, M.Crouch, Adams, Walsh, F.Macrae, Valente, Mead (E.Smith, S.Berry, Davies)
Grundy, Preuss (Tracey)
Sidebottom, Marshall, D.Martin, Heeney, Cockatoo, Durdin (Rowe, Poulter)
No lyodd?
Gawn and Neale will be to hard to get all 3 into your team
Can’t see Lloyd going 125 again that’s nuts for a defender. no Gawn at that price to much rather the value on D4,F4. Neale has Sydney round 1 struggled with tag last year against them resulting in me with ptsdt with the captain’s score he produced that game.
All valid points nateo lyodd still best def thinking Neale’s the one to leave out hard early fixture I’ve gone gawn Preuss as I thought it might be easier Preuss to Grundy plus Collingwood has a few issues lol but it’s a toss up and U do get the extra cash
If i can get the extra cash I’ll pay up for Neale but unlikely to go Gawn, Lloyd
Watch the lineup. If Hewitt isn’t named for round 1 then you’d be all in on Neale for Round 1 Captain.
Nateo,
Have you seen Preuss’s fixture?
I’m concerned he may get injured early.
When do you think of getting in Neale, if you think he’s only risky for Rd 1?
ATM Gawn seems a better (less stress) option than Grundy, but i do share your concerns (seasonal) with Lloyd.
I’m starting with out him, the current plan is round 14. He has the Giants in round 11. Hopefully gets tagged and has a small price drop. And I’ll have three trades to try and do it hopefully
Basically over round 12-13 I’m hoping to do an extra downgrade to build a warchest to grab him…
That does mean I’ll only have him for the back half of the season
That’s “The Plan”
Marshall is my F3 if Pruess goes belly up it’s an easy fix gotta see how he’s moving in jlt first of course. Saying that fif you see Rob’s fixture late in the year he did pretty good against the big rucks
McDonald? Not worried about the talk of Ziebell coming off halfback? Throw in the Aidan Corr factor as well.
David C,
Nowadays “coming off halfback” is not much different to a “defensive wing”. Probably just depends on which position coach is saying it. LOL
He hasn’t played a game under the new coach as far asI know too
GP,
It’s terminology used by assistant coaches after training sessions. ie defence, forward or onball wording.
Of course, i’m worried on Corr and Zibell hence got to see what he does in JLT
I’ve been researching rookies and feeling better about the forward rookies now.
Think we’ll get guys that will play with job security.
GP,
Any names come to mind after your superb (as always, grovel, grovel….) research?
Forward rookies that are best 22 IMO
Rowe for the crows, mature age, lead the SANFL in goal kicking last year and Tyson Styngle got busted for drugs on the off season soo they lack depth.
Kelly from the pies. Hearing a lot of rumours that he is best 22. Played one game last year and hurt his elbow.
Cahill for Essendon is 161k and is training with the back line group as a halfback… they dont’ seem to have any half backs left or at least a shortage
https://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/856757/youngster-in-focus-ned-cahill
Jones for Essendon (source Wighty)
Bergmen from port. I think one of Bergmen, Mead or Jones (other port rookie) plays and they are a fwd, mid and def respectively. Bergmen is more of a smokie at the moment.
I think Kelly, Rowe and Cahill are now best 22.
Watch list:
Lynch for the pies (r/f)
Fullatron fro the lions (r/f)
That’s about it for my rookie update.
I’d be putting Ely Smith at Brisbane on the watch list, Jacob Koschitzke at Hawthorn (playing as a forward with Patton and Gunston out), Will Gould as a Defender and Braeden Campbell as a defender (despite being Forward Mid) at Sydney on the watchlist.
Also, it might be a stretch, but Nicholas Cox at Essendon with the interchange changes and the lack of tall options (Hurley injured, Belcho retired, McKernan gone). Sam Draper will need a chop out and they need a tall defender. I can’t see them playing both Draper and Phillips.
Hi everyone.
Price aside, who will get more game time / score more? Any inside info out there! Cheers Emoji
Tu Tom Powell
Td Will Phillips
Is starting with both to much ?
Toss of a coin wait till pre season games Ben Cunnington ?
Mick,
According to Noble, Ben Cunnington he will be spending “more time forward”.
Tnx Cameleon didn’t hear that news
3 games too, so should be on max discount but $439k is still a lot for a guy with injury worries.
But his history is solid. 20+ games for the last 7 seasons before that, and apparently training very well.
It’s certainly worth considering as a step up, but if he’s playing more forward and less midfield it makes it hard to see him as a keeper, and at priced in the low 80’s it’s hard to see him making enough money to justify the trade in a forward/mid role.
That puts him out for me. Might be a good pickup for a draft or a dead team league.
Somewhat torn at the moment between Ziebell and Heppell.
Heppell has the better scoring history, but is a bit pricier, and is coming off a broken ankle. Highly unlikely to be a keeper as a mid.
Ziebell hasn’t averaged over 100 before, but is moving to a new role down back and is coming off a hamstring. If he can get back to a 95ish average he may be a solid enough F6 keeper.
Anyone got any mail on how their respective preseasons are shaping up?
Ziebel maybe Heppell? Limited preseason take a look at the fixture whoever’s got the easiest first 4 to 6 games at least they will make U some coin and U can flip to someone better if needed hope that helps
If you think ziebell will average 95 this is not a valid question you’re asking. I think he’ll average around 85 and he is still a lock for me considering he fits my team structure. You can only have so many premiums, and even if you pick a few midpricers you’re available balance doesn’t rapidly go up. I’ll always pick the best premiums i can, then look towards one or two ziebell priced upgrades for the value
Also a player averaging 90 in the fwd line is worth far more than one averaging the same in the midfield.
My spies tell me Heppell is not going as well as he would like.
Your spies have any news on Cahill or Jones?
Thoughts on Shia Bolton, breakout year?
With Heeney injury threatening, Brown potentially out, Danger in strife, Walters etc he looks a lot better. Less POD and more genuine top 10 forward.
I’m not sure how much patiences the Tigers will display with there young mids that are currently in front of Bolton for midfield time and they have Aarts to fill a small forward role if they do through Bolton in the guts.
He looked really good in their last year. He is a watch for me, see how the other young mids pan out and if there is an injury or two in the midfield.
As HH points alludes to, how much does he really need to go up to be a top ten mid?
Really sick of seeing people saying they won’t pay for the top players in their positions. The aim of the game is to end up with the best, so every speculative pick that isn’t close to the best leaves you one step away from ending up with the best. I’d rather start with just 11 of the best and upgrade to get the other best players, than to start with a bunch if players who are good but not the best.
Start with the best few, upgrade to the best, and your team will end up being the best. If that makes sense
I think most would agree with you Ben, but at the same time I do have to say people are allowed to pick or not their players or choice without someone else getting upset about it. While it might be more of value to them to include some of these players, at least go about your criticism in a little more constructive-like manner.
Not trying to start a fight or an argument here, but I personally don’t think you shouldn’t be getting all triggered because they aren’t picking the most expensive players. They don’t need to feel guilty about their choices, they’ll figure out those mistakes for themselves, if their teams don’t work out.
“Start with the best few, upgrade to the best, and your team will end up being the best. If that makes sense”
It does except that I would include picking the “hot player”
It works both ways but I got Jordan Ridley and Connor Rozee last year.
At least Rozee was injured and there was a reason for the drop off.
Hey guys, first time on SuperCoach and would love some feedback.
Def- Llyod, Whitfield, Howe, Williams, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Laurie)
Mid- Neale, Steele, Oliver, Cripps, Campbell, Perkins, Pedlar, Cockatoo (Powell, Kemp, McInnes)
Rucks- Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
Fwd- Dunkley, Marshall, Ziebell, Hutchings, Macrea, Bergman (Cox, Rowe)
$127,500 left in the bank.
Interesting piece on AFL website on Callum Mills getting more midfield time this season. Was a good POD for me last season and ended up averaging 100+ for the entire season. With more midfield time, can see that average going up and may be a very good DEF premo POD.
Enter the grunt: Why ‘massive competitor’ is finally training with mids – https://www.afl.com.au/news/545324
Hi All,
Is the current draft of my team. Any feedback or advice is welcomed!
Def: Lloyd, Whitfield, Ryan, DGB, L.Jones, Wehr (Highmore, Chugg)
Mid: Neale, Oliver, Gaff, Laird, Rowell, Phillips, Powell, F. Macrae (Valente, Downie, Davies)
Ruc: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
Fwd: Sidebottom, Marshall, Martin, Rozee, Cockatoo, Rowe (Durdin, Laurie)
Sorry folks, typo in the rucks. Preuss is my R2 not Grundy. Don’t get me wrong, think it looks great with Grundy there, just 330K short.
Yeah that was a stunning starting team as written.
Keen for the new season but i have struggled making a team this year, not sure why. For now i have settled on
DEF: LLOYD, WHITFIELD, STEWART, Milera, Fantasia, DGB (Gould, Jones)
MID: STEELE, PETRACCA, BOLTON, TARANTO, Heppell, Hately, J.Clark, Powell (W.Phillips, F.Macrae, Cockatoo)
RUCK: GAWN, MARSHALL (Lynch)
FWD: WALTERS, T.GREENE, Ziebell, Daniher, Ugle-Hagen, Cahill (Kelly, Rowe) Planning on dumping heppell, daniher, DGB, Clark and Hately and Fantasia after cash is made, keeping Ziebell if he can average 75+. Hopefully making enough to upgrade either Taranto or Bolton to Neale. Thinking of possibly swapping Whitfield for Mills as a POD. let us know what you think. Cheers Lads
Def. Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Williams, Jones,
Gould. (Wehr, Laurie.)
Mid. Steele, Walsh, Cripps, Rowell, Cunnington,
Hately, Phillips, Powell. ( Valente, Durdin,
Davies.)
Ruck. Natanui, Pruess. (Treacy)
Fwd. Sidebottom, Marshall, Martin, Zieball,
Daniher, Cockatoo. (MacRae, Rowell.)
50k left.
Sorry fwd bench is Rowe.
I don’t know whether this question has already been asked, but if you had to make a choice between these three options which one would you choose. North rookies:
A) Will Phillips $189,300
B) Tom Powell $153,300
C) Tempted to select both. $342,600.
You might like to comment on the reasons for or against your choice because I’m hearing positives on both of them that is starting to lead me towards option ‘C’, even though the cost is a bit more than most of us would be willing to shell out. I suppose the most common response will be “we will know more after the pre-season.” One reassurance is that there appear at this stage to be a plethora of young & cheap MID/FOR options, (although these 2 are straight MID) that will give us the freedom to swing players from one line to another, maybe to allow option C to become more viable. Your thoughts please punters 🙂
Rate my team please
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Z. Williams, Milera, Gould, Wehr (R.Thompson, J.Eyre)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Cripps, Rowell, Taranto, Hately, R.Atkins, W.Phillips (Powell, E.Smith, C.Stephens)
RUCK: Grundy, Preuss (Treacy)
FOR: Martin, Walters, Zorko, Impey, A.perkins, N.Cockatoo (Chugg, Sheather)
155800 left in the bank
It’s very different. Lots of PODs but you can’t really fault most of them. In a ordinary forward line, Zorko looks viable even though you know his scores will oscillate wildly.
Walters’ supposed injury situation worries me as I’m not finding any details of it, and you might want to spend that 155k. For me that encourages swapping Walters to Marshall.
Williams, Milera, Taranto, Hately, Atkins, Preuss, Impey all by themselves look ok individually, but there’s such a thing as cumulative risk which probably causes some of the thumbs down. It certainly worries me enough that I’d not run something like this. It will certainly run nicely cashflow positive but there is a real fear of running out of trades and having to keep too many of these guys throughout the season.
Taranto, Hately and Atkins should all be big positives. Changes in club or to other clubs meaning far more midfield. Not really any injury risk. I can’t see Atkins as a keeper, and Hately would have to perform exceptionally well to be one too.
Williams and Preuss come with that change of club and role upside, but the injury history, so they’re both a bit more lineball. Both have the potential to be keepers, or at least in Preuss’ case to raise a fair stack of coin. Williams won’t raise enough money to justify a trade though, so you have to be selecting him as a keeper, same as Taranto.
Milera and Impey it’s just down to injury. Both are heavily underpriced, and both should get more midfield time. Milera is a potential keeper or luxury trade near the end of season, and I have no confidence in the forward line at all so Impey could be as good as any other option.
Individually can’t fault any. Combined, it’s a lot of trades to get a full premo 22.
Hi all, would love an opinion on this team.
Def: Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Jones, Thompson, Gould (Sharp, Wehr
Mid: Neale, Oliver J.Kelly, Adams, Walsh, W.Phillips, Campbell, Valente (Kemp, Rantall, Downie)
Ruc: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
Fwd: Marshall, Heeney, Greene, Macrae Cockatoo, E.Smith (Rowe, Rioli)
Cash: $21,400
I’ve finally like a team for once except my forward premiums. I’m solid on Marshall, think Heeney can go back to scoring 90’s but not sold on Greene. Was thinking he’d be a good POD with lots leaving the giants but not sure if he can stay on the park consistently. Thinking of going T.Phillps or even Bolton but this is just an awkward spot to fill price wise
TJ
Nice team. J Kelly is a top end talent but I would prefer someone a little more durable for that M3 starting spot. Statistically the Bont and Merrett are “safer” options around that price.
Or you could go down to Rowell and save $100k+
I hear you on that F3 position this year.
Heeney has been promising the world for years now but can’t get his body right . He and Greene in the same team is way too much risk for me. I would go Impey and either..
Dusty ..High ownership,not huge upside ,but safe.
Dunkley. More risky as he could start the year as a permanent Forward. Much more upside as he has shown he can score huge with midfield time.
I think both will finish in the top 8 Forwards.
I hope this helps 🙂
Just having a play with a non G&G team. trying to get my head around bye alternatives and how the heck we can fill our forward lines given the carnage so far.
Def: Lloyd, Whitfield, Short, Milera, DGB, L.Jones (Gould, Wehr)
Mid: Neale, Laird, Cripps, Rowell, Hately, W.Phillips, Pedlar Powell (Valente, Durdin, Davies)
Ruc: Gawn, Preuss (Treacy)
Fwd: Sidebottom, Marshall, Martin, Bolton, Daniher, Cockatoo (Laurie, Rowe)
$14k left
I don’t mind this HH.
I would still rather have Grundy and Impey than Sidebum and Pruess.
Agree, so made the change. Good recommendation. However, Whitfield meant I’ve mixed up a bit more since then.
Watching some videos shows how unready some of these kids really are for round 1. Of course, rookies are all up for negotiation.
I’m actually a lot more certain on defensive rookies this year than anywhere else.
Whitfield – > Ryan
Preuss – > Grundy
Sidebum -> Impey
Cockatoo – Will Kelly
Laurie- > Harrison Jones
Valente – > Finlay Macrae
Durdin -> Ely Smith
It’s tight. $1700 left. Will Kelly is probably first one out at the moment.
Hi everyone,
Just incase there maybe some of you unaware of AFL.COM.AU
there are some team symbols at the top of the page. Click on and
apart from the interesting AFLW comments, the clubs sometimes have other information of interest.
Cockatoo people, click on Brisbane and read (between the lines) coaches comments.
https://www.lions.com.au/news/858507/fagan-excited-about-daniher-s-four-goal-hitout-in-intraclub
Basically saying that both won’t have big years doesn’t mean much.
Probably less than half of recruits anywhere do.
But between the lines it can be read like there a couple of possibilities:
1) There isn’t space in the best 22 for both, and they’d prefer Daniher.
2) Ticking every box can mean just meeting the bare minimum standards.
Cockatoo is a wait and see player anyway. He’s not really achieved much with his career so far.
Def- L.Ryan -L.Whitfield – Z Williams – L. Young – L.Jones – W. Gould – (J.wher – T.highmore )
Mid- L.neal – J.Steele – C.Oliver – P.Cripps – M.Rowell – W.Phillips – T.powell – L.valent- (F.macrae – C.Downie – A.Davies )
Ruck – M.Gawn – B.Preuss – (J.Treacy )
Forward- P.Dangerfield – S.Sidebottom – D.Martin – J.Ziebell – A.Perkins – N.cockatoo – ( J.Rowe – M.Rioli)
140k in bank
Thoughts on bringing Daniher into the forward and swapping out for either Rowe or Rioli?
Swap out Rioli.
According to comments (Richmond), he’s has skills, but needs more work.
Def – Lloyd – Laird- Whitfield – Williams – Jones (PTA) – Gould (Wehr- Fyfe)
Mid – Neal – Oliver- Adams – Rowell – Hately – Phillips – Campbell – Durdin (Powell – Valente – Davies)
Ruck – Gawn – Preuss (Treacy)
FWD- Sidebottom- Dunkley – Marshall- Ziebell- Macrae (COL) – Cockatoo (Laurie- Rowe)
Any feedback happy to hear. Rookies of course are interchangeable currently, and haven’t looked too much yet at bye structure. Biggest toss up currently between either Dunkley or Dusty.
ATM i’d be thinking Smith instead of Cockatoo
Thoughts?
J.Lloyd R Laird Z Williams Grainger Barras L Jones W Gould (J Wehr T Highmore)
L Neale T Mitchell P Cripps M Rowell T Taranto LDU W Phillips F Macrae (L Valente C Downie A Davies )
Grundy and Gawn ( J Treacy)
Danger Zorko Caldwell Jamarra Cox Cockatoo (J Rowe M Rioli)
Couple of dicey picks. Titch and Danger are carried under injury clouds, so will start the season underdone at best, and Taranto isn’t worth starting. Try and find the cash to turn him into a Dogs/Dees MID instead.
Solid structure though, Bailey. Sit on that till the pre-season and R1 teamsheets then tinker.
Good luck.
Why do you say that about Taranto GD? Priced around 15-18 points under average, improving his average every year apart from injury, high draft pick, strong pre-season, won’t get tagged. Yet to be a legitimate premo but won’t need much improvement on his pre-injury average to push 110.
Couple of factors, CA:
– Too many others MIDs to compete with, of which his DE, contested possessions and disposals are/close to the lowest
– Giants are set to give Tom Green more midfield minutes this season, that’ll come at the expense of guys like Taranto and Perryman rather than Kelly and Hopper
– He declined nearly 20 points on his average between 2019-2020; I get that he was injured for half the season, corona, etc., but 20 points is steep
– With the Giants to likely decline this year they’ll have fewer viable big SC scores, probably only Kelly, Whitfield and maybe Haynes
Also, if you start him at say M5 for 450k, you’re aiming for him to be a keeper at M8 right? Don’t think Taranto will come close to finishing at Top 8 MID, whereas there’s a chance Cripps, Rowell or T. Kelly might at only 40-50k~ more.
There’s a chance he turns things around and adds +30 points to his 2020 average, which is what you’d need to justify starting him, but I think it’s more likely he falls victim to too many cooks in the kitchen at a GWS on the decline.
Best of luck if you start him though, always liked the kid.
Love your insight GD, and you make good points about DE and CP. I’m definitely looking at him to eventually sit at M8.
I think the scoring last year, with 15 mids finishing over 110 avg., was an outlier. From 2017-19 only 7-9 mids finished over 110 each year.
Taranto went 102 in 2019, so may only need to increase by 7-8 points to push top 10. As you mention, Green is probably starting to take his CBAs though.
He’s probably my 30th pick atm, but in the mix.
Yeah, good point on the scoring distribution.
Look, if he really takes his game to another level and comes off a strong pre-season then yeah, he could work.
Would love for him to pan out for you, good luck!
TU Adam Treloar
TD Josh Kelly
Thanks. Good to be back 🙂
Both have been regular features in my SC team for years.
You are gunna need to budget for 4 trades. 1 trade each when they get injured because you can’t have that money sitting on the bench. And 1 trade each when they return because you will feel the need to make good your original decision to pick them.
Good luck!
TU – Dusty & Ziebell
TD – Sidebottom & Impey
D: Lloyd . Laird . Whitt . Milera* . Jones . Gould .
Wehr . Highmore.
Neale . Oliver . Bont . Walsh** . Rowell . Phillips . Valente . Mead .
Cockatoo . Berry . Bowey .
Gawn . Grundy . Treacy.
Dunkley . Marshall . Daniher . Impey . F. Macrae . H.Jones.
E Smith . J Rowe.
$4K left.
*If I need cash and a suitable rookie replacement turns up I may down grade Milera.
**I’m still stuck on Cripps or Walsh . Cripps also frees up a little cash but I just have a feeling about Walsh.
Dunkley or Dusty ?
May need a poll ?
Any way let me know what you think folks.
I’d go dusty personally only because how many good players bulldogs have picked up will be interesting who scores well out of all of them
first draft of premo’s
DEF
Laird Whitfield Stewart
MID
Neale Steele Oliver Adams Cripps
RUCKS
Gawn Grundy
FWDS
Danger Marshall Martin
I have a full squad sorted with these premo’s. If danger doesn’t get up for round 1 im unsure who he will go to, for some reason im against dunkley IMO he is 5th maybe 6th choice mid. Unsure on steele alot of players rolling through saints midfield this year but I’m a saints supporter so I think I’ll end up keeping him. I not fully confident of the Stewart pick id prefer to go Ryan or lloyd but can’t get the funds for it. I havent seen dusty on many teams?? Isn’t he supposed to be the fittest he has ever been? Didn’t have a huge bender in America this off season haha
Anyone else having second thoughts about Collingwood assets in the light of the racism debacle impacting the club right now?…i’m not convinced the playing group can easily disassociate itself from the self inflicted mess.
I need to chose my words carefully here as an Essendon supporter, and I will start by stating categorically that racism has no place anywhere in our society whatsoever, and the days of “what happens on the field stays on the field” are gone.
It is with some mirth nonetheless that I have been watching the pile on against the Pies. Most recall the Nicky Winmar incident some decades back, but how many recall Michael Long calling out Monkhurst, or then President McAlister’s provocative remarks ??? That era was arguably the time when the racism issue truly came out in the open. I would suggest that Essendon over the years has been probably the major player in bringing indigenous players into the AFL fold on an equal footing, as it should be, largely through the actions of Long, Sheedy, and others.
During the drugs saga, there were no more vitriolic attacks on Essendon than from Pies supporters and I lost friends over it. Still to this day, not one Essendon player has returned a positive drug test….Lachie Keefe and Justin Thomas ring any bells ??
So, I have no sympathy for the Pies at all over this, but to answer the question posed…how can it NOT have some effect. The players are now open to on field sledging from opponents (remember Sam Mitchell faking injections), but I hopw it doesn’t happen.
I will be avoiding Pies players at least in the early part of the year.
This is a sensitive subject, and if my thoughts offend anyone, I apologise.
Love to hear from the TD person.
Garryowen (Version II)
Def: Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Milera, Jones Gould (Wehr & Highmore)
Mid: Neale, Oliver, Cripps, Rowell, Phillips, Powell, Smith, Mead (Valente, RCD, Davies)
Ruck: Gawn & Grundy (Tracey)
Fwd: Sidebottom, Dunkley, Marshall, Ziebell, Daniher, Cockatoo (Rowe & Durdin)
$2k in the bank
I thought I was looking at my own team.
4 Captain options per week and a sprinkling of growth assets.
The super promos you have picked have not dropped in price significantly and you can load the team from the bottom up rather than the top down which is super hard to do with 30 trades.
I think most Dunkley fans like me are worried about him spending more time forward but surely he’s more valuable to the Dogs in the middle?
Wouldn’t Bont and Smith be more likely to be the ones to go forward more often?
Still, there’s a lot of mouths to feed – Macrae, Treloar, Bont, Smith, Hunter, Dunkley and probably someone I forgot.
I think I’m talking myself out of him but wouldn’t mind hearing other takes on it.
I’m a Dunks fan too and at this stage I’m starting him. He got treated like dirt last year and still averaged 104, which is more than good enough for a premo forward.
After the trade week debacle last year, I think he’ll get a lot more mid time this year. And I don’t mean time in the ruck!
yeah me too Dunks will hopefully get more mid time as a somewhat reward DD
Dunks will finish top 6 FWD.
He may drop a few $, but he will be top 6. You will want him in at season end.
Hey guys, I’m seeing a couple of comments concerning people getting upset and triggered because others aren’t picking the right players or the most expensive ones.
Not an admin or anything myself, but I just thought it would be the right thing to do by giving a friendly reminder to everyone to keep criticism constructive and positive, and not to make people feel guilty and down about their choice of players 🙂
Hi Everyone,
I have been contemplating a few selections and would welcome your thoughts:
T/U: Z Williams, Cripps, Grundy
T/D: Howe or Maynard, Walsh, Goldstein
Tu: Z Williams, R Sloane
Td: Milera, Z Merrett
Whitfield News
https://twitter.com/GWSGIANTS
Lachie Whitfield will be sidelined as he recovers from a bruised liver.
Chief Medical Officer Bassam Moses: “It’s on the lower end of the scale & he’s feeling OK. “He hasn’t required hospitalisation but it’s hard to put a timeframe on his recovery.”
Whitfield + GWS + Injuries = > 1 week + %chances of Collingwood actually winning a GF / +- 2/3 of 3/4 of 4/5 of actual recovery time = ~ actual weeks out.
Pls note : this formula is based on the actual volume of green cheese found on the moon.
The answer must be 42 !!!
CT,
Thank you again for your continuing brilliance in keeping us updated.
Just 1 question relating to the appraisal of Daicos, “Were Pendlebury, Adams and Sidebottom also playing?”
A similar appraisal was given by Michael Whiting of Brisbane’s Rayner, but he also stated Neale, Zorko and Berry sat out the game.
Thoughts
J Lloyd C Daniel Z Williams D Grainger Barras L Jones W Gould (T Highmore J Wehr)
L Neale C Petracca T Mitchell T Adams M Rowell J Hately W Phillips F Macrae (C Durdin C Downie A Davies)
Grundy and Gawn (Treacy)
Danger Zorko Caldwell A Perkins N Cockatoo J Rowe ( P Spicer M Rioli)
Which Blues Mid?
TU Cripps
TD Sam Walsh
Cheers
Been tossing that one around myself Went with Cripps late last year but maybe Walsh this year ,both are worthy though DD
Thanks DD
Both are great starting picks for their price.
One is a proven premium, other is on the improve.
Can’t go wrong starting either.
If you require 20k elsewhere, pick Cripps.
Why not both?
🙂
Both will gain value but Cripps is super premo
Current team. I have $203k remaining and have just plonked Daniher in at F4 as a placeholder.
DEF:
Seagull, Whitfield, LMac, Jones, Gould, Wehr (McLennan, De Koning)
MID:
Neale, Oliver, Laird, Walsh, Cripps, Phillips, Bianco, RCD (Smith, Valente, Stephens)
RUC:
Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
FWD:
Dunkley, Marshall, Ziebell, Daniher, Worrell, Cockatoo (Macrae, Jones)
Any help with what I should do at F3/F4 would be much appreciated.
Solid team.
My thinking is either one of Cripps or Walsh and Zieball or Daniher.
Thats just my opinion.
I like your team
For f4 I would try to get Connor Rozee for Daniher. Rozee started strongly before injury last year and this year he could come on. Daniher would not be in the top 6 forwards but Rozee might be as he will get midfield time.
Hello
Tu Martin
Td Dunkley
I’m thinking Dunkley and pick up Martin when he warms up?
I’m battling with that question at the moment.
Dunkley may have more upside but there’s the question over role.
Martin has more proven durability and has a clear role BUT is likely to start slow.
I just picked one and am waiting for more info as the preseason goes on.
I think Dusty will have a low point as per usual in the season but who knows when. Dunkley I think will have a low point earlier in the season because of role issues, then come good when they suss it out.
That’s why I’ve gone Dusty over Dunks. Just.
hey guys thoughts on the team
DEF-lloyd Laird stewart jones roberton gould (wehr and carruthers)
MID- Neale Steele oliver Cripps rowell powell cockatoo valente (durdin downie davies)
Ruck Gawn Grundy(Tracey)
FWD-Danger, dunkley,Marshall,macrae,E.smith,Laurie (rowe and saunders)
Cheers
I would stay on away from Roberton. Think you are better off just having a rookie.
Danger has a little injury. You’d be able to get him cheaper and he usually has a better back end of the season.
Roberton will probably retire.
Draft 1 here we go! Rookies are placeholders of course.
Def- Lloyd laird Z.Williams Dgb wehr gould (bianco worrell)
Mids- Neale Oliver Adams Cripps Taranto Hollands Powell mead (rcd mcinnes davies)
Ruck- G&G (treacy)
Fwds- Sidebottom, Zorko, Cameron, Ziebell, Daniher, macrae (taheny, laurie)
38k itb, wait and see how daniher is tracking and what role Laird is playing. M3 is tricky not sure out of Adams, danger and Bont will be rotating them all through I’m sure.
Thanks!!
Hi guys bit shifty on the current team but here’s what I’ve got. Any feedback is appreciated…
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Z.Williams, Milera, DGB , L.Jones (Gould, Wehr)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Walsh, Rowell, Hately, Phillips, Powell, Cockatoo (Valente, Downie, A.Davies)
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
FWD: Dunkley, Marshall, Bolton, Daniher, Impey, F.Macrae (Rowe, M.Rioli)
About 7k in the bank
Unsure about getting Sidebottom in and/or swapping Zac Williams with a more consistent defender or Witherden. Thoughts?
Cheers!
TU – Zac Williams and Tom Green
TD – Wayne Milera and Jy Simpkin
4 very good players there Ryan Milera/ Simpkin for me DD
I know it’s early days but..
Which Bomber FWD rookie to go for?
TU – Archie Perkins
TD – Ned Cahill
First Cut – 13 Premos, 9 Rookies – one eye on R14
Would appreciate a TU or TD. $32K left (enough to play around with)
DEF: Lloyd, Daniel, Stewart. Grainger-Barrass, Jones, Wehr (Carruthers, Highmore)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Gaff, Cripps, Phillips, Powell, E.Smith, Valente ( Berry, Durdin, Davies)
RUCKS: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
FWDS: Dunkley, Marshall, Martin, Zorko, Macrae, Cockatoo (Rowe, Saunders)
Cheers and good luck all.
Zorko’s body was starting to let him down last year plus he will probably be spending more time forward with the younger brigade coming through at the Lions.
Thing is the forwards all look so risky that Zorko looks pretty darn good as an option.
At least it addresses his inconsistency, since high scoring forwards aren’t bankable for a hundred in any given week.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
B: Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Milera, Jones, Wehr (Gould, Highmore)
M: Neale, Oliver, Cripps, Rowell, Phillips, Powell, Macrae, Valente (Smith, Davies, Berry)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
F: Sidebottom, Marshall, Dunkley, Ziebell, Daniher, Cockatoo (Durdin, Rowe)
$6900 ITB
Keep an eye on Whitfield, has a bruised liver and missing a chunk of pre season
So Magpieairians, (Collingwood faithfuls), can anyone confirm, that after the appraisal report was printed for our viewing, that Daicos is to be the actual role replacement for Treloar????? Hmm?
Geez there has to be a lot of doubt about the best 22 at Collingwood. Means there will be bargains, but a high chance of selection errors too.
Jye Caldwell
TU – Yay
TD – Nay
I had Caldwell in my first cut but he is now gone.
I think Schoenberg (adelaide) has the upside, seems bulletproof and has a year in the guts.
Caldwell is changing teams, role and expectations and he seems to get injured.
I dont expect year 1 to be that good.
Or Rozee, has to bounce back after getting injured last year.
after your thoughts on my current team
D: Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Milera, Grainger-Barass, Jones (Wehr, Highmore)
M: Neale, Steele, Oliver, Mitchell, Cripps, Green, Phillips, Powell (Valente, Durdin, Davies)
R: Grundy, Preuss (Treacy)
F: Dunkley, Marshall, Daniher, Impey, Macrae, Cockatoo (Kelly, Rowe)
Have $32, 600 left over
or TD backup plan is to get rid of green and milera for rookies and upgrade preuss to gawn
i would keep green and trade impey and milera then get gawn Green could well breakout DD
TU Oliver
TD Zerrett
Thanks
Is there even a need for this question to be asked?
Oliver V Freo last start 94 SC points, Merrett v Hawks 145 SC points. Both projected to get similar. Most ppl will go Oliver but good for Rory to get opinions & help
you don’t choose a keeper for one match though.
High BE, 4 hard matches to start. I’m picking Satan up R5
That’s a better reason than one match, but 94, 134, 87, 111 last year is still 106 average, and only 2 price drops. I dunno how much you’re expecting to save by waiting on one of the most consistent midfielders in the last few years.
Barring an injury score in there you’re probably going to need to wait a few more weeks for his price to drop, and they were his three lowest scores so it will likely rise from that point.
TU: Rowell M5
TD: Zorko F4
Ready for another season! Would love to hear your thoughts on the team at the moment. Obviously a number of changes will take place between now and RD1.
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Milera, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Highmore)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Adams, Cripps, Rowell, Phillips, Campbell, F. Macrae (Valente, Downie, Davies)
RUC: Gawn, Preuss (Treacy)
FWD: Sidebottom, Marshall, Dusty, Ziebell, Cockatoo, Rowe (Durdin, Laurie)
Looks solid. I went from Sidebottom/Preuss to Impey/Grundy because it’s more likely that the lower purchase price on Impey gets better returns quicker, especially with Preuss’ early matchups.
But honestly, not much between the two options.
Thinking way outside the square but here we go
B Doc, Z Williams, Mills, Milera, Laird,Ryan – Jones, Bianco
M Cripps, Petracca, B Crouch, Dunkley, Treloar, Stephens-geelong, W.Phillips, Chayce Jones – Valente, Durdin, Rioli
Ruck Obrien, S.Martin, Treacy
F Marshall,T Phillips, Cameron, Danihar, Ugle, Cocky – Mcrae, Rowe
B Crouch misses the first couple of games.
TU: Milera D4
TD: Hately M5
I am also considering which one of those with Hately at M6. I will Probably decide based on which line has the most starting rookies.
I think I’ve gone mental now:
DEF: Lloyd, Ryan, Duggan, Cumming, Jones, Thompson
Bench: Wehr and Highmore
MID: Neale, Steele, Oliver (consistency is what I’m looking for here along with big scores), Hunter, Laird, Daicos, Valente, Williams
Bench: Collier-Dawkins, Downie and Davies
Rucks: Gawndy
Bench Treacy
FWD: Marshall, Rozee, Impey, Kelly, Macrae, Cockatoo, Rowe, Rioli
Explanation:
– Ryan is my Whitfield replacement and a bit of POD but should be able to rack up those scores
– Cumming should able to get one of the vacant roles on the HBF or even the bench
– Thompson big risk but I think he’s worth it for those 60 odd scores enough for a 250k price rise
– 2 big names (Neale and Steele) to kick off the deep midfield
– The next 2 (Oliver and Hunter) I’m looking for big scores and consistency with Oliver and as for Hunter I’m looking for just for consistency
– Laird at M5 should be enough right… think again, finishing off with a breakout contender in Daicos
– Downie is ready made for AFL and should see him slot onto the HFF, hoping for some mid time (on the wing as well)
– Forward line has taken hit but Marshall with no Ryder is a no-brainer
– Rozee is another breakout contender but he’s increased his tank over the off-season looking at some more mid time from him and injury free (fingers crossed)
– Impey is bargain at 212k, no more words need to be said
– Kelly looked good last year and reckon another year in development should see him score well
– Macrae is considered to be better than his brother and hoping he plays a mid fwd role
– Cockatoo injury free and as a HFF should score well
– Rowe is a mature aged rookie who should be a walk up start in the Adelaide fwd line
Hi Trats, like it mate. Have you got a DPP switch in the backline if you need to flick Laird down there?
Thinking about it just trying to find the right person. Same as in the mids for the fwd line.
Afternoon, Trats.
That’s a no from me mate, sorry. Couple of issues I’ll take line by line:
DEF: Even as an Eagles man, Duggan’s dicey at $448k. He likely gets some midfield rotations, but that doesn’t mean much as the Eagles as a team tend not to pump out large MID scores. Once Yeo comes back and Duggan goes back into defense he’ll then have to compete with Witherden and Nelson, both being developed in Hurn’s role, for points. Also watch Ryan and Cumming’s respective roles. Hamling and Pearce might clip Ryan and you’ll want Cumming being developed into Zwilliams or Shaw’s role.
MID: Tick, tick, tick on your M1-3, but Hunter and Laird are just unnecessary as MID picks. While Hunter, yes, went under the radar last year, he likely benefited from inflated winger scores in shorter quarters and probably sees less of the ball with Treloar now onboard – plus, he’s got an awkward floor of 80. Laird should be picked as a DEF, not a MID. 70k more and you can switch him with multiple options who’ll all outscore him. Also, if you’ve got confidence in Daicos, move him up to your M5 and use the cash saved up FWD.
RUC: No complaints here lol.
FWD: The Rozee picks baffles me. Maybe those selecting him know something I don’t and I’m happy to be wrong, but he scored below 60 9x times last year (including 3x 30s) and went down by -7 points on his average from the previous year. Even if he has a breakout season, you need him to go 20 on his average (doubtful) for him to be a viable F2. Maybe roll the dice on him at F3, but not F2.
Maybe review some of those picks, bring Daicos up to M5 and use the cash saved to bolster your FWD line.
Good luck!
TU milera
TD Hayden young
this is my Plan C – “what if the rookies don’t show” team
Def; Laird, Stewart, Williams, Cumming, Clark, Jones (PA), (Gould, Highmore)
Mid: Oliver, Bont, Titch, Dunkley, Walsh, Rowell, Hately, Cockatoo (Valente, RCD, Downie)
Ruck; Grundy, ROB (Treacy)
Fwd; Marshall, Heeney, Impey, Cahill, Fullerton, Kelly (Rowe, Jones – ess)
Whitfield’s injury is the reason he is out. Titch could become Merrett and Heeney could become Bolton if the drums keep beating on their preparation.
I reckon there are 12 keepers here. I think 4 mid-pricers in Hately, Cumming, Clark and Impey. All stepping stones, but there is a very rough chance that one of them could do enough to justify keeping. Of the 6 rookies onfield, only Jones from PA is untried.
the lack of Neale, Lloyd and Gawn makes the team look weak, but i have got the next tier down. Personally think those three are all over-valued, but that doesn’t mean I will be capable of getting them later. So, i would need to accept that I probably wont get them unless something freaky happens.
Impey at F3 looks scary, but really its F4 with Dunkley in the mids. (so i keep telling myself!)
having a fondness for a mid-priced madness team, i havent ruled it out altogether. but if the rookies show, then i will definitely be trying to upgrade the mid-pricers to keepers.
Interesting approach. Do you think you can win a league without Gawn, Neale, Lloyd ? If the answer is no, then that is six trades needed right there as in all probability it is highly unlikely you will be able to do a single upgrade to get any of them.
If you must have Dunkley, I reckon he is a waste in the mids, can easily slot one of many other options there at the same price or thereabouts.
I can only assume the intention with Dunkley is to move him to the forward line as players like Cahill get sold off to buy premo mids
Whos a better option to start at M4
TU – crippa
TD – rowell
I have Neale, oliver and kelly 1-3
Def: Lloyd, Whitfield, Williams, Granger etc, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Laurie)
Mid: Neale, Titch, Treloar, Cripps, Rowell, Hately, Phillips, Pedler (Powell, Durdin, Velente)
Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
Fwd: Sidebottom, Marshall, Daniher, Cockatoo, Ugle Hagan, Rowe (Macrae, Cox)
$5600 left
TU – SIMPKIN
TD – TARANTO
Already on to V2 of my first lineup, with Adams going out given his hamstring injury today
Def: Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Williams, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Fyfe)
Mid: Neale, Oliver, Walsh, Rowell, Hately, Powell, Phillips, Davies (Carroll, Valente, Perkins)
R: Grundy, Preuss (Treacy)
Fwd: Dunkley, Marshall, Dusty, Rozee, Rowe, Cockatoo (McCreery, Macrae)
130k bank
Laying Gawn for now in the hopes that Preuss can go 90-100 range and bridge the gap. The extra funds have allowed me to grab Stewart down back and a roll with Dusty up forward (could change to Sidebottom; still unsure)
Not sold on the weakish midfield, but honestly the mids are a minefield to me. I feel more confident in nailing the top Defenders & Fwds, and letting the top 8 mids come to the fore during the season as upgrade targets. Rowell the biggest concern of my mids so he could be upgraded prior to Round 1 for me.
Let me know your thoughts.
Hey, TC.
I can see what you’re going for but your selection process is a little flawed imo.
The idea of playing “wait and see” on Top 8 mids is a death sentence, sorry. The MIDs who break away from the pack early and establish themselves as Top 8 will either crack 700k or not drop below 650k for the rest of the season – point being, it’s going to be very tricky to find that kind cash for your first upgrade. Not to mention all the points you’ll have missed in the meantime and how few captaincy options you’ll have.
I get you’re worried about not knowing who will be Top 8, but it’s better to safely bet on a Dogs MID, Zerrett, Kelly, etc. doing so than to move heaven and earth in trades and cash to find out later.
Having just Neale and Satan at M1/2 then Walsh, Rowell and Hately won’t cut it. Personally, I think you need a proven premo at M3, which will push Walsh, Rowell and Hately to M4-6 if you’re set on starting them. To do that, sack either Zwilliams, Rozee or Dusty (all overrated SC picks). No need to run a 4 deep DEF and FWD lines at the expense of your MID line, where most of your points come from. Or you could just use the 130k ITB to turn Walsh into any MID you want.
Best of luck.
Thanks for the feedback. I initially had Adams as M3 but will rethink now he is injured. You’ve made a great point regarding upgrades to the elite mids, something I did not consider.
I’m pretty keen on Walsh as my breakout mid, so Rowell could be the one to go up to a Merrett etc. If Rowell is looking like a must have, I’ll more than likely cull Stewart or Dusty/Dunkley for a Uber M3, or even Crippa if he looks the goods in preseason.
Cheers!
Yep, back Walsh in. Sounds good.
You could even sack Zwilliams and Hately for a premo MID and DEF rookie?
Anyway, have a think about. Good luck!
I don’t think Rowell at M4 and Hately at M5 is actually that weak a midfield. If you wanted to you could bump it with Laird. There actually looks to be potentially a couple more defensive rookies that might be promising this year (Koschitzke, Laurie, Highmore).
As always, rookie availability is the critical thing. As the good Father says, available rookies decide your team and not the other way around. In the end, a best 22 premo in one line is pretty much interchangeable with any other*, at least once you’ve got your captains locked.
* Unless they have a particularly bad first 6 game run and you’re waiting on them as a fallen premium.
Hello re m5
Tu Simpkin
Td Rowell
Same $ +\-, same bye, Simpkin (pod?) 3% ownership , Rowell 53%….thoughts?
How about
tu Tim Kelly
td Rowell
When undecided, take the cheapest: less to lose.
DEF: Lloyd, Ridley, ZWilliams, Milera, Bianco, Gould (LJones, Wehr)
MID: Neale, Macrae, Cripps, Simpkin, Rowell, Green, Stephens, Mead (Macrae, Valente, RCD)
RUC: Gawn, Preuss (Treacy)
FWD: Danger, Marshall, Heeney, Daniher, Impey, Cockatoo (Durdin, Saunders)
$86k in the bank so will likely start with two out of Milera, Green, Daniher and Impey, using the other two for a 1up-1down based on pre-season
Structure looks really good, Doc.
One of the few teams I’ve seen that actually gets value from Preuss at R2.
Monitor Danger, Ridley and Heeney though. All three are under injury clouds atm. If they’re not fully fit by R1, flick em’.
Otherwise, great stuff. Good luck.
It’s very different and looks good for it.
But you do have lots of players with injury clouds at this stage.
who will score more
TU: Green
TD: Rozee
Looking at Taranto any thoughts of him in a team.
There’s definite value, however as Gunboat mentioned, his DE is poor, which means he’s prone to 70s that’ll keep his average down.
M6 now but hopefully becomes M8 by years end.
TU – Simpkin
TD – Taranto
Gday first time posting here
DEF: Lloyd, Ridley, Stewart, Z. Williams, L. Jones, Gould (Wehr, Highmore)
MID: Oliver, Treloar, Walsh, S. Higgins, Cunnington, W. Phillips, Hollands, F. Macrae (Cockatoo, Valente, Downie)
RUCK: Gawn, McEvoy (Treacy)
FWD: Sidebottom, Martin, Heeney, Ziebell, Cahill, W. Kelly (J. Rowe, Durdin)
Just 10k left in bank
Careful of Heeney injury but just enough to switch to Bolton?
Any thoughts would be great, cheers
Hey, Drew. Good to have you around.
Yep, solid team. Just monitor Ridley and Heeney’s injuries and maybe consider culling your D4 or F4 to bolster your midfield – probably need Neale.
Other than that, I like it. Best of luck.
McEvoy has said he won’t play every game. I’d rethink both him and Higgins.
Hey everyone. Ready for 2021? First draft here feel free to comment or TU/TD
Def; J. Lloyd R. Laird J. Howe
W. Milera D. Grainger-Barass W. Gould
(J. Wehr L. Jones)
Mid; Neale Steel Oliver Cripps
Rowell W. Phillips B. Campbell T . Powell
( F McCrae. E. Smith L. Valente)
Ruck; Grundy Goldstein (treacy)
Fwds; Marshall, Martin. Caldwell
N. Cockatoo B Laurie, M Rioli
(C . Durdin J. Rowe)
Any feedback welcome. Good luck everyone
Thoughts?????
DEF
J. Lloyd
R. Laird
T. Stewart
I. Cumming
L. Jones
W. Gould
Bench
J. Wehr
B. Laurie
Midfielders
L. Neale
C. Oliver
Z. Merrett
S. Walsh
P. Cripps
W. Phillips
L. Valente
C. Stephens
BENCH
N. Cockatoo
R. Collier-Dawkins
C. Downie
RUCKS
M. Gawn
B. Grundy
BENCH
J. Treacy
FOWARDS
J. Dunkley
R. Marshall
J. Ziebell
J. Impey
F. Macrae
J. Rowe
BENCH
E. Smith
C. Durdin
TU – CRIPPS AND SIMPKIN
TD – OLIVER AND HEPPELL
Need your thoughts & feedback!
Lloyd, Daniel, Williams, Milera, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Highmore)
Neale, Steele, J. Macrae, Cripps, Rowell, Hately, Powell, F. Macrae (E. Smith, Valente, Mead)
Grundy, Preuss (Treacy)
Dunkley, Marshall, Dusty, Impey, B. Campbell. Cockatoo (Rowe, Durdin)
good team personally i think dusty out for daniher/impey and grundy in
Dad has finally forgiven me, but he has locked the wine cellar. As a result, my head is clear and I can make a sensible approach to my team for the first time.
LLoyd Laird Williams Lukosius Jones DGB (Wehr Highmore)
Neale Petracca Merrett Cripps Rowell Prestia T Powell Cockatoo (Valente Durdin Davies)
Gawn Preuss (Treacy)
Marshall Martin Daniher Ziebell Macrae Rowe (Kelly Spicer)
Only ten genuine premos, but Lukosius capable of being d6 and Rowell and Prestia could be m7/8. Lots of dpp cover and a 20/21/19 bye split.
$26.6k ITB and projected 1931 r1 with c on Gawn.
great to see an eye in the byes SOW Definitely oliver for Tracca my friend Good team now DD
Milera TU or TD
Alright, rookies will definitely need some work closer to but so far I have…
Lloyd, Laird, Mills, Williams, Milera, Jones, (Gould), (Wehr)
Neale, Oliver, Danger, Cripps, Sloane, Pedler, Powell, F. Macrae, (Cockatoo), (Kemp), (McInnes)
Gawn, Preuss, (Treacy)
Sidebottom, Marshall, Ziebell, Cahill, W. Kelly, Bergman, (Rowe), (Laurie).
74.2k left in the bank. Feel free to tell me your thoughts.
Sloan is an interesting choice He can go big and will be a pod nice team DD
Ok first version finally.
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Barras, L.jones, Gould — Wehr, Highmore
MID: Steele, Oliver, Cripps, Rowell, Taranto, Hately, Valente, C.Stephens — Smith, RCD, Durdin
RUCK: Gawndy— Tracy
FWD: Dunkley, Marshall, Martin, Ziebell, Macrae, cockatoo— Kelly, Rowe
Praise, advise, tear it apart. Go nuts 🙂
TU Hatley and Grainger-barras
TD Milera and phillips (roos)
Injury to Adams has opened up M3 for me. Who’d you back?
TU – Z. Merrett
TD – T. Mitchell
Find it strange I’m the only one voting Mitchell pending a round one start with ample fitness. High chance that Merrett scores 105- 110 imo, in contrast to an injured (all last year) Titch’s 113 with the potential to re-reach his heights of 129. Merrett has been consistent but last year was a wacky year for scoring, and a revert back towards any of the three previous years (105, 100, 109) would render him a terrible choice.
For those reasons, again, I’m surprised that I’m the only one out of Eleven in(so far) who has voted titch
Is Walsh, Crippa & Z.Williams too much Carlton exposure? I’m finding all three to be value, although Z.Williams could be the one to go for a better F3 (currently Rozee)
If you rate them all as selections, then no – not too much exposure. Just be cognizant of your bye structure, Dogs and Lions have the same bye as the Blues.
Hi GD i tried to find an article from last year on initial bye structure ,maybe FD but cant . From memory it said to start with no more than 6 keepers on one line i.e. for 13 keepers a bye structure of 3 5 5 for instance is perfect Remember most have 3 rucks LLOYD OLIVER AND LAIRD all in Round 14 Very wise to keep byes in mind 11% of the total is in the byes cheers DD
I dont consider all bye rounds equal and see the last bye round as being better to have more premiums for. By that round, you’ll have upgraded (likely hard) throughout the byes to have more premiums, and be approaching full premium, which will further mitigate the risks.
Plus you’ll be culling rookies with a bye for rookies who have had their bye, increasing your ability to have more players on ground in all positions
goodday Ben If i have 13 prems now and 3 not playing R 11– 5 in 12 and 5 in 13 I actually have 10 -8 and 8 available plus incoming prems I tend to agree with you IF as expected I HAVE 18 it would be better to have more available in R11 so 6-6 -6 gives 12 in the opening round it surely must be better to have less out of the opening bye such as 3- 7 -8 giving 15 in the opener then 11 and 10 plus upgrades in R12 out of R 11 teams Sorry to be long winded it is confusing but i believe you to be correct better to have more out of R14- 15 available in the opener and then 14 then 13 plus sounds right DD
Yeah sorry. I meant to say round 14 is best to have more premiums (out) for, because by that point your team will be looking a lot better following the 6-9 trades used during the three bye weeks. I always try to lean towards more guns in the first bye, but know that’s hard in practice
Oh to be honest i thought rd 14 was the last bye (haven’t had a great look yet), but yeah the theory still stands
To be honest, i navigate byes badly anyway. Maybe its just been poor luck, but theres been 2-3 years that I’ve been around the top 300 overall going into the byes, with only one of those years leading to success after. That year i finished 14th overall
crikey well done ben i have high hopes of doing well except for waiting too long to trade doc and missing the cut could have been sub 200 as it was sub 600 gives me a spring board one hopes good luck
it is my bad
All good -point taken I have 5 out of 14 now and the ones i want will be RYAN STEELE and Heeney so i will trade accordingly DD
Having a look at peoples teams here, what thoughts on Nic Nat as R2 did OK last year with restricted time on field should be 100% this season.
N N in my team
I’m very impressed with the quality of wordsmithing going on. Above we have cognizant and mitigate.
Keep it up all…great verbosity and articulation !!
SCT showing the class of its contributors.
TU Lachie Jones
TD Connor Menadue
Comment: Other Rookie Def that isn’t Gould, Grainger-Barass or Wehr
Thanks
Highmore is the only other possible option I think
Thanks Chillo
laurie certain starter
Premo Def
TU Rory Laird
TD Tom Stewart
Thanks
Thoughts please, (comments why) preferred option,
Tu Goldy
Td Nic Nat
Thanks all
Garryowen 3.0
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Milera, Jones, Gould (Wehr, Highmore)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Cripps, Rowell, Phillips, Powell, RCD, Valente (Macrae, Mead, Davies)
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy (Tracey)
FWD: Dunkley, Marshall, J Martin, Rozee, Daniher, Campbell (Durdin,Rowe)
$60k in the bank
I really think there are 10 must-haves (DEF: Lloyd & Laird, MID: Neale, Oliver, Cripps & Rowell (the latter two price based), RUCK: Gawn & Grundy & FWD: Dunkley & Marshall). The other 20 at the moment are pretty fluid and am not totally sold on any of them if I’m honest
Happy to take a punt on Jack Martin & Rozee as I anticipate both will be playing more midfield and can average 90-95 which is enough for F5/F6 if they stay fit.
Milera at the price (if fully fit) is just too good to ignore as he could average 90+ especially as Laird will be spending more time in midfield.
Thoughts?
Sound logic, Sean. Back it in till pre-season and adjust.
Good stuff.
TU – Ben Cunnington
TD – Jack Martin
Prefer Cut Price Cunnington for Final Trade but Martin playing Mid is enticing. Fin Macrae Dual can be in for me
Hi guys, please let me know your thoughts on the team.
Backs: lloyd, Ryan, Whitfield, l.Jones, gallant, McLennan sub:Gould , p.walker
Mids: Neal, Oliver, Mitchell, Cripps, toranto, w.Phillips, Powell, cockatoo
Subs: pedlar, valente, d.Williams
Ruck: Gawn, preuss, sub:Fullerton
Fwds: Sidebottom, Martin, Heeney, Georgiades, Daniher, treacy sub:Henry, worrell
Appreciate Any advice, Cheers
Hey, Alms. Good structure but a couple of selection issues:
– Whitfield is injured, expected recovery a month
– Titch is still under somewhat of an injury cloud, yet to resume full contact work
– I’d wait and see how the return of Hamling and Pearce effects Ryan before you start him
– Georgiades is just an irrelevant SC player, sack him
Those are the glaring issues, personally I’m not sold on Martin, Taranto and Heeney – but that’s up to you.
Other than that, maybe switch up your rookie placeholders to those we’ve gotten word on so far; Barrass, Campbell, Wehr, etc.
Good luck.
Thanks gunboat, I’ll make some tweaks.
Tossing up between the benefits of Preuss vs Grundy. I do believe Grundy will finish 2nd to Gawn overall, however the joint bye and the acquisition of an extra premo FWD does leave me uncertain. What’s your thoughts?
TU – Grundy – lock in those points
TD – Preuss – steady the FWD line and grab Grundy after the bye
Cheers,
Bomb
What sold me was considering what grundy can score compared to almost any other midfielder. Aka 130. Priced similar to macrae and will score more so he’s in
Hello again.
Keep changing from Cripps to Walsh m4
Any blues out there that know who would most likely get the tag?
Tu Cripps
Td Walsh
Thanks everyone
I’m torn as by this too. Cripps will get the tag almost always,but if he plays like he used to, that just means more contested touches. Walsh is improving and could be anything, bit not proven. At the same time i strongly believe cripps will go back to 115+. I’m not having both so will have to skip walsh on the premise that 115+ all you could ever need from a player at that price. Walsh will have to be the one i miss
Having both doesn’t sit right with me. Ive picked my team and cant fit another premo in, so are spending any extra cash to make those premiums that i have better. Will pick a kelly or macrae over a walsh because i love my other picks and have the money to spare
Theres so many gambles that may get 115, so im paying up for those who have the proven ability to go 120, and if they lose 5 or so points I’ve still got the best guns that people who will trade in at some point anyway
Greetings all, like everyone I have tinkered numerous times over the past few weeks and keep coming back to this !! – rookies subject to selection
Laird, Mills, Stewart, Williams, Jones, Laurie (Gould, Wehr)
Neale, Oliver, Walsh, McGrath, Daicos, Powell, Valente, Durdin (McInnes, Poulter, Downie)
Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
Dunkley, Marshall, L Ryan, Daniher, Macrae, Cockatoo (Kelly, Rowe)
$9900 left
Daicos is a risk (it is him or Cunnington) & I may look one uber short in the mid’s perhaps, but I can mount an argument against any of the top 20 priced mids other than Neale & Oliver right now. I still might dump Daniher and switch Daicos to Cripps.
Taking McGrath’s injury affected last game of 29 out, he averaged 100 last season and 104 for the prior 7 games playing a side that were “poo” at best in the 2nd half of last year (go Dons BTW!!), and he should improve again.
Not sure if I have missed something but I have heard barely a mention on SCT of Flyin’ Ryan, who av 95 in the last 7 games which included a 25 ! Yes please for $410k !!
Any thoughts gratefully appreciated
Gidday Hass,
also have been looking at Ryan for that very reason. Can anyone advise where you can go to check if he had a role change for those games. Fan footy says he was playing deep forward but those scores would indicate some Mid time.
Hi All,
After finding my weekend plans needing to be slightly (and some) rearranged a bit, have decided to focus on a different team format, my “Watch List ” for the March preseason games.
I’ve named them “The Crossticks”.
Mills, McDonald, Zilliams, Duggan, Milera, Cox and Koschitzke, Gould
Walsh, Cripps, Rowell, Daicos, Willips, Maginness, Campbell, Facrae and Smith, Bianco, Davies
Goldy, Nic Nat and Fullarton
Tillips, Ziebell, Cahill, Kelly, Wighty’s Jones, Rowe and Durdin, Laurie.
1478100 ITB (no decimal point)
I’m thinking (yes maybe too much, ie thinking not ITB) of crossing out and replacing with IMO, the better options as they become available after the games.
But what if I got some early guidance/recommendations from the SCT participants?
So SCTairins, feel free to suggest any replacements, changes, swaps or just plain adjustments to my watch list before the preseason…….and maybe the Mottsey Crew could even possibly set up a voting list to help me after all the advice is posted (????) or maybe even setup a new topic (???) called Crossticks; outs and ins???????
In the meantime just thoughts on the “don’t think sos’” and the “what abouts” will do just fine.
Cheers All
Which Eagles Def scores more?
TU – Alex Witherden
TD – Liam Duggan
West Coast: “He’s really impressed us.. Definitely give him a go in pre-season & see if he ends up there or not, that will be – to be decided”
Eagles Snr Adam Simpson on Liam Duggan playing midfield
So everybody is looking for PODs, but how about considering the biggest POD of all – a reverse POD by not picking Matt Rowell.
Let me start by saying I think he is the best footballer, and especially SC relevant bull. However, he is stuck somewhere between a first year and second year player, and like it or not, he wont have the consistency of the uber premiums we can choose from. He will score some 80 odd scores, he will get the tag often and struggle to cope. The top premiums rarely score below 80 – maybe two to three times a year. I wont mention it all here, but theres a lot of things actually going against rowell, and at the price you are picking him at, he would need to score 110+ to be a pick that doesn’t need an upgrade at some stage. I’m betting that he wont do that. I think he’ll be the best player we have ever seen, but i dont think he’ll jump straight into uber premo territory. My estimate is a below uber premo average of 105, with a very small chance of going 110, but with a big risk of him averaging around the 95 mark, which would still be amazing for his age and development, but terrible for tour sc team. Will almost certainly need trading at some point.
I have no reason to be arguing against his case but to help those in the community. Again, instead of searching for that POD who might jump a few point, consider the biggest (and statustically significant) POD of all and consider not starting will Rowell. Its what I’ll be doing
You make some good points about where you see Matt Rowell finishing on the premium spectrum. But he is currently In 53% of teams, so hardly a reverse POD given that means 47% of teams are already without him.
I think the real question here is whether coaches expect him to be a keeper or a stepping stone. If you don’t start him at his price ($495k), then you either have to find approx $100k from another line to upgrade to a proven Uber premo or take a punt on another mid-price value pick or breakout contender.
He is in 53% of teams for a reason. I will be looking for PODs elsewhere.
You make no sense. If he is in over half the teams and you back against him, you indeed have a pod.
Its also not the case that if you don’t start Rowell you are down 100k. There’s obviously value to be found elsewhere. For example, williams is cheap and has a much much higher chance of being a top keeper in his position. Moreover, I’d prefer to start with 11 gun premos compared to 12 less than uber premos/midpricers.
Rowell could be a bit of value, but so are many other players. If you think he’ll score more than 105/110 then good luck, but have your trades ready for when he doesn’t.
Seriously I don’t get your point. If he is in over half the teams and you back against him and win, of course you are looking good..
Respectively does anybody have any common sense when it comes to this?
Thanks Ben, I agree with myself too 😉
Ben by your logic if half the teams (i.e. 50%) is the threshold for being a POD then every premo outside of Rowell and Neale would be considered a pod. Generally a POD is considered a player with under 7% ownership, so under that token Rowell would have to be 93% owned in order to make him a reverse POD.
Best of luck betting against him, I won’t be but if it pays off kudos to you.
You are idiots. picking against neale is a big pod, picking against Gawn is a big pod, and sorry to say picking against rowell is a big pod. Common sense bro. All i was saying is that rowell is a good “reverse pod”, as in that not selecting him could really really really work out. How can you argue against the fact that not picking rowell is a pod move? Again, your argument makes no sense…
The idea of a reverse pod obviously takes more brain power than you have. Was only trying to help the community mate. You have to sit down and think about it. Can’t believe that by your logic you wouldn’t consider somebody backing against gawn as being a pod…
Or like a i said, a reverse pod. As in not picking a player with more than 50% ownership could turn out to be a good move
I dont even care. Go ahead and pick your sensationalized picks and I’ll go ahead and not pick someone who over half the teams have, and you can say that there’s no potential in that. Ffs I’m mad at your lack of thinking
If this is the type of response i get on this site from trying to prove a valid point, then just get stuffed mate
I’ll stick with my 47% pod over your 7% pod any day of the week. You really are stupid
Have I missed something or have you just spent an hour arguing against invisible comments?
TU: Milera & Dunkley
TD: Williams & Dusty
TU: Milera, Rowell and Sidebottom
TD: Williams, T.Kelly and Dusty
Here is my lineup:
Def – Laird, Whitfield, Mills, Milera, Jones, Gould Int – Wehr, Highmore
Mid – Neale, Petracca, Mitchell, Cripps, Rowell, Hately, Phillips, Downie
Int – Pedlar, Powell, Davies
Ruc – Gawn, Preuss Int – Treacy
Fwd – Sidebottom, Martin, Bolton, Ziebell, Macrae, Cockatoo Int – Rowe, Spicer
Fairly happy but pretty stock standard team so might try and get another POD or two in before round 1.
Interested to hear people’s thoughts on what seems to be the two main options for D4.
TU – Williams – worth the extra 150k, will be a keeper or at least a good performing stepping stone
TD – Mileria – 150k better used elsewhere, will still be an effective stepping stone.
Cheers,
Bomb
Thinking of both at D4 and D5 with a rookie at D6 and F4 in lieu of
Williams, Jones, another D rookie and Ziebell at F4
I’m not convinced that Ziebell’s calf will hold up at the moment
Noble (Nth Coach) is saying he’s learning the half back role at the moment. They’ll want his experience going into this season. You do have Daniher and Impey as a possible swap.
With lockdown in Vic. Time to get a SC team going for 2021.
Hopefully Danger lines up Rd 1, sitting at M3 as cover for the weakest line being forward. Watching Witherden role, but happy if he becomes D6.
Taranto could become a rookie to upgrade Preuss to Grundy, just overall team looks good with Preuss.
DEF
Lloyd, McDonald, Williams, Witherden, Jones, Wehr…
Gould & Highmore.
MID
Neale, Oliver, Danger, Cripps, Rowell, Taranto, Phillips, Powell…
Valente, Durdin & Davies.
RUCKS
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy….
FOR
Dunkley, Marshall, Ziebell, Impey, Macrae, Rowe…
Kelly & Laurie.
Here is my first iteration:
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, L.Mcdonald, L.Jones, Laurie, Gould (Wehr, Highmore)
MID: Neale, Steele, Oliver, Petracca, Rowell, Hately, Phillips, Valente
(Bianco, Downie, Davies)
RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
FWD: Dunkley, Marshall, Daniher, Cahill, Macrae, Smith (Rowe, Durdin)
BANK: $12.5K
Would love your thoughts on this current line up, not 100% sold on Daniher but for his price it seems worth the risk (rookies will change depending on preseason/rd1 teams), Cheers
First draft of my side. There’s been a fair of fiddling around but this is where I am at before seeing any intra-club or pre-season games etc. Any & all feedback welcome
Laird Mills Williams Milera Jones Bianco / Gould Wehr
Neale Oliver Bontempelli Cripps Rowell W Phillips Campbell Valente / F Macrae Durdin A Fyfe
Gawn Preuss / Treacy
Dangerfield Martin Marshall Daniher Impey Cahill / E Smith Spicer
Gotta have Lloyd imo.
What do we think legends?
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Z.Williams, Milera, L.Jones, Gould // Wehr, Chugg
MID: Neale, Fyfe, Adams, Cripps, Heppell, W.Phillips, Powell, Vallente // Spicer, Downie, Davies
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy // Treacy
FWD: Danger, Marshall, Heeney, Ziebell, Campbell, F.Macrae // Cockatoo, Rowe
Great structure, Tom, but a few picks need revision due to injury:
– Adams just did his hamstring and is in doubt for R1
– Danger’s still having groin problems, been seeing a specialist interstate
– Heppell has only just resumed training, will be underdone
– Heeney seems to have clicked into gear, but still needs to be monitored
I’d flick Adams and Danger for Dunkley and Oliver, Dogs MID, etc., then wait and see on Heeney and Heppell.
Again, great structure – just dicey starting players under injury clouds.
Best of luck.
Yea great shout! I’m gonna sit on them for the moment and see what happens around the community series praccy games but definitely keeping an eye on them, particularly adams and danger as the others are full training now and just building Match fitness
Defs hear what ya saying tho! :))
Adams under injury cloud. Touch and go for round 1 but apart from that looks good
Ok second crack at my team. Comment or TU/TD. Appreciate all feedback.
Lloyd , laird, Howe, Milera, Grainger-Barass, Gould. (Jones, Wehr)
Neale, Steele, Oliver, Cripps, Rowell, Phillips , Campbell, Perkins. (Mccrae, Smith, Valente)
Grundy, Preuss (Treacy)
Sidebottom, Marshall, Martin, Hutchins, W. Kelly, Cockatoo. (Rowe, Durdin)
Cheers lads
Hey Everyone,
Struggling with the F3 selection, so welcome your views:
T/U: Bolton
T/D: Heeney
Heeneys ankles look made out of chalk to me. Bolton will give you 22 games.
Rate my team please
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, T.Stewart, D.Grainger-Barras, Gould, Wehr (L.Jones,T.Highmore)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Boak, Cripps, Rowell, Hately, R.Atkins, W.Phillips, Powell, (M.Hutchings, F Macrae, E.Smith)
RUCK: Grundy, Preuss (Treacy)
FOR: Sidebottom, Marshall, Martin, Walters, Impey, A.perkins, N.Cockatoo (Chugg, Sheather)
47100 left in the bank
no walters btw!
Bontempelli is he a risk to get in the midfield cause of Treloar, dunkley etc.. if so should i get him?
TU: Yes
TD: get steele sidebottom
comment: if you have other other option
Current team. Probably version 37… keen to hear thoughts.
D: Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, L Young (Nth), Jones, Gould (Weir, Highmore)
M: Neale, Oliver, Walsh, Simpkin, Rowell, Taranto, Phillips, Powell (Valente, Durdin, Davies)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
F: Marshall, Heeney*, Ziebell, Impey, Macrae, Cockatoo (Rowe, Laurie)
Latest draft:
Lloyd, Laird, Milera, Young (NM), Laurie, Gould, Wehr, Highmore
Neale, Steele, Oliver, Mitchell, Walsh, Taranto, Phillips, Macrae, Smith, Valente, Downie
G, G, Fullerton
Dunkley, Marshall, Campbell, Kelly, Bergman, Rowe, Durdin, Spicer
Obviously weak at D3/F3 – Taranto can become a rookie and I pick up Stewart for Young in D but I reckon Taranto out scores Stewart comfortably.
Rookies will change come R1 and if they don’t show up in D/F , my plan is to turn Taranto into a rookie and bring in Ziebell+Daniher up forward and Young (NM) becomes Young (Freo) – this gives me great JS I feel and good upside for trades albeit 1 less “premo” overall
What do you guys think? Would love some feedback please.
Remaining Salary: $178,100
DEF
Premos: R. Laird, L. Whitfield, T. Stewart, L. McDonald,
Mid-price: Z. Williams
D. Grainger-Barras, J. Wehr, L. Jones
MID
Premos: P. Cripps, T. Adams, M. Rowell, T. Kelly
W. Phillips ,T. Powell, F. Macrae E. Smith, N. Cockatoo, A. Davies, J. Mead
RUCKS
B. Grundy, T. Goldstein,
J. Treacy
Forwards
FWD
Premos: R. Marshall, I. Heeney
Mid-price: S. Bolton
J. Rowe, B. McCreery, W. Kelly, J. Impey, J. Ziebell,
Few injury concerns for me – Whitfield has a bruised liver and will be missing a bunch of preseason with possible doubts come RD 1. Adams has also done his hamstring and is in doubt for RD 1. Equally missing 3 of the big 4 worries me. You could probably sacrifice one or two premo defs for Lloyd and try and get Neale into your midfield. Not sure on the Kelly pick either, might be best to try and find the funds to get a proper uber premo to pair with Neale.
Best of luck this season!
Bomb
Thoughts?
J Lloyd C Daniel Z Williams Grainger Barras Lachie Jones Gould (Wehr Highmore)
Neale Steele Titch Cripps Rowell Hately W Phillips Valente (C Stephens durdin downie)
Gawn Grundy (Treacy)
Danger dusty T Phillips Macrae Cockatoo E Smith (Rowe chugg)
Looking at the value of not starting Gawn..
Thoughts?
Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Milera, J. buckley, jones
( Wehr, Laurie )
Neale, J. Kelly, Lyons, M. crouch, Walsh, Rowell, F. Macrae, E. smith
( Valente, Durdin, Downie )
Grundy, Preuss
( Treacy )
Sidebottom, Marshall, Ziebell, Impey, Cahill,
W. Kelly
( Rowe, Spicer )
Hope everyone is well in lockdown
First team for the year. Struggling with Round 14 bye as I have so many players that have byes. Suggestions as always are appreciated. Really think Hunter Clark and Callum Mills can have a breakout year. Have gone deep in the mids as that is where the most points are scored. Rookies subject to availability,
DEF
Lloyd, Mills, Clark, Milera, Bianco, Laurie
(Wehr & Thompson)
MID
Neale, Steele, Oliver, Cripps, Rowell, Phillips, Perkins, Macrae
(Smith, Valente, Durdin)
RUCKS
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
FOR
Sidebum, Marshall, Zorko, Cockatoo, Rowe, Rioli
(Kelly & Chugg)
interesting pods Clark mills and Zorko Just feel the defence needs beefing up with a prem DD
Would have to agree with DD, I like the mills pick but maybe clark can be put into a Laird, Stewart or Daniel type.
Thanks DD. I had Whitfield, then Ryan but swapped to Mills seeing he will continue to get more midfield this year.
Have replaced Clark with Ryan and Milera with Grainger-Barras. Thanks DD and BB
In what oder would you rate these MID mid-pricers and how many (if any) do you currently have:
Green ($351k)
Caldwell ($348k)
Hateley ($31k)
Heppell ($319k)
…or name your own….
Gidday Sean,
dont plan to have any but would rate your list 1-3-2-4.
Currently but no way a lock have W.Brodie M/F $344900 with the hope he finishes F6.
Hey guys,
Hope everyone’s doing well, specially the fellow Victorians during the mini-lockdown!
So glad I moved to reading the forum and build a team from home baking sourdough 😀
Just a thought, bit of a question really, about the total absence of Jack Macrae from many many (if not all) teams posted here.
I know that there’s a lot of caution about the whole Dogs mids pack, but do we see Macrae as such a big drop in points?
I’m not too sure myself really, I’ve been playing with teams with and without him (or Bont) and I quite can’t make my mind.
I think the concern especially with Macrae and Bont, is they’re both guns in other roles – not just inside mids. Macrae spent time on the wing early last year while Hunter was out, and can also be a very damaging forward.
Treloar on the other hand is more-or-less a pure mid, and is viewed as less versatile than the other Dogs. So he probably takes a few CBAs off all the others.
Bont came out last week saying his strength is playing multiple roles, which sounds alarm bells for SC.
Still have alot of I’m unsure of and waiting until the preseason for, but keen to hear thoughts on this iteration.
DEF: Lloyd, Whitfield, Mills, Witherden, Jones, Laurie (Wehr, Gould)
MID: Neale, J Lyons, M Crouch, Cripps, Rowell, Phillips, Cockatoo, Valente (Poulter, Downie, Gulden)
RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Treacy)
FWD: Sidebottom, Marshall, Ziebell, Kelly, Cook, Rowe (McCreery, Durdin)
$35,200 itb. Mostly worried about the round 14 bye. Again, much still to change, I’m not married to this team, so feel free to share honest thoughts.
Watch whitfield as he has injury concerns w/ his liver
Which combo?
TU Howe/Ugle-Hagan
TD Stewart/Nik Cox
Thanks coaches
My first draft for the year, really struggling to pick an initial team with uncertainty around rookies and whatnot.
DEF:
Lloyd, Laird, Williams
Chapman, Jones, Highmore
(Gould, Wehr)
MID:
Neale, Oliver, Merrett, Cripps, Rowell
Phillips, Campbell, Valente
(Macrae, Downie, Davies)
RUC:
Gawn, Grundy
(Treacy)
FWD:
Sidebottom, Marshall, Heeney
Perkins, Kelly, Cockatoo
(Rowe, Laurie)
Let me know what you all think 🙂
Great team, JP. Very solid.
Don’t worry about rookie uncertainty at this stage, we’ll get a better read come pre-season. Just make sure you’ll be able to swing some expensive rookies if they’re the ones that happen to debut.
Good luck.
Braeden Campbell and $45k in the bank (TU) or Nakai Cockatoo and $105k in the bank (TD)?
First time post here, from Vancouver Canada. I have been reading this chat for the past 4 years and have admired all the work and effort put into SuperCoachTalk.
With about a month away, I have been tinkering my team like many of you. Any advice is very appreciated and please do not hold back. Destroy it to pieces:
DEF:
Lloyd, Haynes, Williams, Grainger, LJones, Wehr (Gould, Highmore)
Mids:
Neale, Oliver, Fyfe, Cripps, Taranto, Phillips, FMacrae, Collier (Valente, Downie, Fyfe)
Rucks:
Grundy (Treacy)
Fwd:
Dunkley, Marshall, Dusty, Ziebell, Cockatoo, Rowe (Kelly, Durdin)
A part of me is interested in Phillips (Haw) and add Walsh, but I’m staying pat for now. Again appreciate all your thoughts!
Hey, DK. Good to have you around.
Yep, solid structure. Sit on that till pre-season.
Who’s your other ruck though? You missed it. Gawn, I’m guessing yeah?
Yup! Thanks GD! Meant to write Gawn as well!
Thoughts
J Lloyd C Daniel Z Williams Grainger Barras Jones Gould (Wehr Highmore)
Neale Steele titch Cripps Rowell Hately Phillips Valente (stephens (cats) Downie durdin)
Gawn Grundy (Treacy)
Danger Dusty Flip Macrae Cockatoo Smith (Rowe chugg)
TU: Marshal & Ziebell
TD: Marshall & Pruess
TU: Marshall & Rankine
TD: Marshall & Preuss
TU: Marshall & Rozee
TD: Marshall & Preuss
I know that everybody has already cancelled Charlie Curnow of their SC possibles list for all of eternity and heres some more evidence why that’s a good idea unless they gave Charlie #2. Then he’d be unstoppable
#30 at Carlton may have a curse.
#30
Premierships – 6
Premiership Players – 4
B&F’s – 0
Runners-Up B&F – 0
Goal Kicking Trophy – 1 (Jarrad waite)
Best 1st Year Player – 2
100 game players – 4
50 game Players 8 including curnow
In more than 108 years of footy since numbers were introduced !
Players who played more than 50 Games in #30
Most ave games p/year – 15.3 by Jarrad & Vinn Waite. Charlie Curnows 11.4 currently has 4th highest on the list
Actual Players that have played more than 50 games in #30 at Carlton have a look at the career ave games p/year; most are less than 10. 29 players over 108 years since numbers and more than half ave less than 10-games p/year. Burn that number Carlton Burn that number now.
Vin Arthur 60-games over 7 years including 2 premierships from 4 grand finals. I don’t know if injury caused those missed games it was late 1920’s and 30’s but he obviously had a high degree of talent to play in 4 grand finals as a half forward including 1938 Premiership and 1945 premiership. Ave 8.5 games p/year
Albert Price 102 games over 11 years. Enigmatic Rover/Small forward played in two famous premierships but only 102 games in 11 years suggests a few long term injuries he played during the war years. Gifted player with lots of games missed. Averaged 9.3 games p/year
Jack Sullivan 66 games over 6 years form caused missed games. Ave 11 games
Murray Kick 55 games in 5 years. Wing. Played in a Grand Final, came 3rd in B&F in 2nd year. Missed a lot Games with injuries during early to Mid 60’s. Ave 11 games p/year
Fraser Murphy 107 games over 8 years. Speedy crowd favourite rover could have had played in 2 Grand Finals but was suspended for belting a ruckman in 1986 semi final but he got the last goal of premiership in 87. Mainly form caused missed games. ave 13.4 p/year
Tony Pickett 60 games in 4 years. Wing. Debuted in 1976 playing 24 games to win best 1st year player and ranking top 10 in B&F. Tazzy State of Origin Player in 1979 but wasn’t in the Carlton premiership team of 1979. suffered form and injury problems
Vin Waite 153 games over 10 years. Started as a fwd pocket and kicked goals with each of his first 2 kicks in his his first game. Season was cut short by spleen injury and he could only manage 6 games p/year for the next 3 years. Broke out in 1969 as the regular back pocket and was loved by the fans for reliability he was Doormat MkII. Premiership Player 1970,72 Victorian State Rep 1971. Ave 15.3 games p/year. Obvious Injury early on
Jarrad Waite (Vins son) 184 games over 12 years. Holds the record for games in #30 at carlton and had freakish ability at both ends of the ground. He missed heaps of games due to injuries bizzaely he averaged almost the exact same number of games p/year as his father. ave 15.3 games p/year
Charlie Curnows 57 games in 5 years. 11.4 games p/year