213 thoughts on “Trade Talk – Round 1”

  1. Much more open to trading/boosting early.

    Easy fix for me this week:

    Jones -> McKenna
    123k -> Sheezel

    Pure rookie correction. Not enough of a sample size to look at any premiums just yet.

    Interested to see if anyone’s blasting off with premos/re-doing their side.

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    1. Considering boosting out Brayshaw. CD hates him. Would be a correctional to a Macrae or Miller. I’m more than likely to hold him through next round.

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      1. Maybe CD missing some stuff but today was on him, Yeeter.

        26 touches, just 9 contested v Saints midfield, 2 clearances, 6 clangers and just 50% DE. All with silver service from Darcy? Yowza.

        Does have a great fixture coming up but someone like Miller will definitely cover him OA.

        Up to you.

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      2. Yeah, as a saints fan I just thought today’s game was pretty weird. Brayshaw will come good but everyone was pretty horrific with disposing the ball today and at least this score will only be in one price cycle. I’d hold till at least next week and if he puts up another 70 then cull him then.

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    2. Considering shorting Clarry for Green/LDU so I can turn an Fyfe/hopper into Daicos.

      Given that it’s turning 2 trades into +1 premo it feels like a cheeky upgrade and less of a waste.

      Might use my boost to do another correction trade. Get ahead of the game. With the obvious misses.

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      1. Just Some Guy – you have Fyfe and Hopper that you want to “fix”?
        How about
        Fyfe & Hopper >> JHF & Worpel.
        And think about turning Clarry in to Daicos after you see next weeks scores?

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        1. Yeah that’s definitely on my radar.

          Have a lot of the midfield midpricers to the point where Mackenzie is M9, and had to field Constable

          So the current priority is turning a mid into a Def. I have Homes, Hopper, and Fyfe as 300k spuds so it’s just about if I want to be patient or go 1 up 1 down (Philapou) and rookie correct/upgrade or try and get fancy

          Also have Hunter Clark as Def midpricer so would love to turn him into a different 300k guy (maybe Rampe)

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          1. Also not sold on Worple. Everyone scores against Essendon so need to see another week before I consider him

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      2. This feels a bit reactionary. Consider why you picked Clarry in the first place. Also consider Daicos and LDU’s preseason efforts – do they have the body of work to ditch a proven premo like Clarry?

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        1. It is reactionary. I’m going to wait until Rd2 and re assess. Nothing worse then losing money on a premium you misidentified see Crisp/Whitfield last season or Neale the year before.
          Rd1 is also the best time to react. Reacting early gets you the most value from your trades.

          Rd2 is for fixing bench rookies before the price changes.

          a trade is typically worth 150k so trading a Clarry to a Green/LDU/Daicos if you’ve identified them as a premium is fair value for the trade (especially if the player you are bringing in has value as a captaincy option)

          Now if you treat your midpricers as rookies aka players that at some point will turn into a premium via 2 trades. Then what you are doing is really an upgrade. Rather then considering it a sideswap and a wasted trade

          You’ve made 150k going from an overpriced premo to an underpriced one and you’ve upgrade a failed midprice rookie to a keeper who will be there the whole season.

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  2. Just sorted the players from Round 1 from highest to lowest scores – very deflating to find I only have 2 in the top 30 scores of the round – Green & Gulden.
    More frustrating when I look at the players in the top 30 that I DID have in my team – but NOT at the start of Round 1. Would love a redo week…..

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  3. Not sure if Jones will miss but it looked bad so will assume that he will.
    Jones to McKenna
    Green / Caminiti to Pedlar (who was in and out of my team all preseason)
    Will hold Whitfield for a week.
    Not ideal but hopefully Phillips and Phillipou can help cover

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  4. I think I might hold my Jones trade for a week or at least until team announcements and see what happens, flick a sub on field if thats what works..

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    1. Thinking the same… bench loop Cowan and if he fails to fire, bring McKenna in (having sold him with my bloody Friday tinkering for Hunter Clark grrrr)

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        1. In this instance, it means he has Cowan on his bench. Carlton play Thurs night, so make him emergency. If his score isn’t great, trade out Jones for McKenna. If Cowan scores well, and Jones misses with injury, keep Jones on field and take Cowan’s emergency score, and save the trade.
          Bench loop is great for emergency bench rookies playing in early games. If you have a non playing bench player, you can move them onto the field if your emergency scores well (ie : for coaches that may have had Sheezel’s 114 on the bench as the Emergency, with a non playing other player/rookie on the FWD bench, you could have subbed off one of your onfield FWD rookies who hadn’t yet played (Greene / Davey), replaced them with the non playing bench player, and you could then get to take Sheezel’s 114.

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            1. It only works if you have a player on your bench who isn’t going to be playing, so you can sub them onto the field in order to take the emergency score.

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    2. Yeah I was thinking this – Jones BE is 78, I thought that’s achievable. Then I noticed he managed 5SC in 40% game time…

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  5. Railed against Hopper after the practice match. No two way or accumulating work and basically can’t score outside of a contest (CB/stoppage). Said I could totally see him scoring awkwardly and struggling to ton at times. Ended up picking him because there weren’t enough fieldable MID rookies and I couldn’t get up to another premo.

    That read was absolutely vindicated on Thursday night but haven’t considered touching him for the following reasons:

    1) It was, of course, a 1 game sample size. Very volatile to be chopping and changing premos/midpricers after Round 1.

    2) The match conditions on Thursday. Just the 16 goals, so 16 CBs, and it was a high octane, low stoppage affair. Ball pinged around a lot at a fast pace. Really not ideal to a guy with no substantive scoring stream outside of contest.

    3) The Blues are one of the densest, most restrictive midfields.

    4) Still in a MID role and has the Crows next week. If, against the Crows of all teams, he flops then it’s cya later – but his 67 v Blues is explainable.

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    1. See my comment below GD
      We must have hit enter at the same time!
      Good insight
      I think I will hold for 1 more week as well

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    2. Hopper only played 7 games last season, with that and getting used to the Richmond game plan, I think he will build into his role, stick with him a few more weeks.

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    3. Not sure we need to panic right now….Hopper a stepping stone at best and he did get his be. I’m already planning a future upgrade to Laird when his price falls, using Hopper and a rookie as pathways.

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      1. Yes, Agreed. Hopper is a steeping Stone, I will most likely go Fyfe to Sheezel gives me 250K in the bank for a early hopper upgrade, unless of course he throws up back to back tonnes.

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  6. My biggest disappointment was Hopper
    A few good options at his price (Horne Francis/Ziebell etc)
    Think I will hold for a week though
    T/u hold
    T/d trade now

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    1. Man I’ve got bigger problems than Hopper right now……..will hold another week and hope for the best.

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  7. Must rage trade laird.

    Reverse later probably, but a good rage trade is good for the soul.

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    1. Remember premo prices don’t matter as you should not plan on trading them, only scores matter. Assuming he doesn’t get body snatched again this week, he will serve all well.

      Yes I do know you we’re being facetious, just thought it was a good spot for the advice.

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    2. Yeap was the first one when SC opened for round 2. But i have calmed down now and am thinking with more clarity. Laird is still top 8 by years end.

      But having the C on him really hurt the enthuasim for the year.

      Fyfe to Sheezel looks to be the only trade.

      Bank the cash and go early upgrade Hopper to ….. round 6

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  8. The most annoying thing is that 2 of the guys in inbound rage trades are two of the guys I had in there before last minute round 1 changes.

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  9. Didn’t get to watch dogs vs dees game. Have Bailey dale. Was it the right pick and he just had an off day or game? Do I correction trade to Daicos or someone?
    TU – trade
    TD – waste of a trade he will come good
    If anyone has any intel on why he scored low or a more in-depth reasoning to trade or keep pls comment

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    1. Dogs looked to continue the modus vivendi of their last month and half last year: Richards freed up, Daniel back at HB and Dale more stationary/accountable.

      Didn’t help that Dale had a shitty outing with 3 frees against and 6 clangers but he doesn’t have the monopoly on HB distribution that he had last year.

      Maybe watch another week for sample size but can see him having too low a floor given that set up.

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    2. I was going to start him, but in the end simply couldn’t afford.
      He was playing melbourne, imo these 2 teams have the most talent laden lists in the AFL – certainly for SC.
      The points just had to be spread, leading to lower than normal scores for clarry, macrae, BSmith, Dale, etc.
      Hold and reassess next week, after you observe his role against a more normal side haha

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  10. Should I still trade out Jones?

    TU: YES, regardless of if he’s out or not
    TD: NO, if he’s in this week. Give it another week to see how he goes

    Was thinking Jones > McKenna btw

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    1. Yeah, now sitting at BE 78. Gg.

      Yes, he might play this week, can still score well and eventually drop the 5 out of his cycle but it’s cooked his CG.

      Had still only scored 5 closing in on HT.

      Becomes McKenna (BE -32) for me, yeah.

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    2. Don’t think the dogs can play him and Bruce back. (Or the 4 tall fwd, ball came out too easy) just looked all at sea to me…

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  11. Have been trying to access this site a bit lately and keep running into “ Error establishing a database connection”.

    Using my iPhone – does anyone have any idea what is going on?

    As for SC – had Stewart, Jones and Laird as Captain couldn’t have had a more frustrating start!

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    1. Same happening to me mate this year been struggling to get on having same message pop up. Must be some new bug

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    2. Ya. Sorry, fellas.

      Working on it.

      Site a little retrograde and experiencing a lot of traffic.

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      1. Cheers GD, wasn’t sure if it was just me. This site is the best in the business I’m sure you’re all over it!

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    3. What a week! Reckon most copped some hits- happens when only one week of full on practice matches & sides all looking pretty similar.
      If feeling pretty bad about SC- just check out the side of numero uno for this week- had 5 DNPs and some pretty random picks- don’t worry all- it’s a long season and next week could be huge turn arounds!

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  12. Fyfe…jeez…not keen on giving him another game – do I :
    T/U : trade him to Pedlar and Goater to Daicos
    T/D : cool down, 1 more game to redeem

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    1. Was obviously worse case scenario. Did have Wilkie on him and he’s one of the most restrictive defenders in the comp.

      Plays North Melbourne next week and you’d imagine that’s a different story. But Week 1 corrections are satisfying.

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    1. Geez, both looked insane. Hayden Young too, though that might have been more game specific. I wish I had both.

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  13. Wonder how many people with Stewart will trade to Ryan since he scored 171 points.
    He had 10 games under 85 last season

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  14. DEF – Docherty, Dawson, Ridley, Jones, Ginbey, Constable (Wilmot, Cowan)
    MID – Oliver, Macrae, Merrett, Green, Hopper, Ashcroft, Mackenzie, Phillips (Baker, Chesser, Davey)
    RUC – Darcy, Marshall (Madden)
    FWD – Dunkley, Coniglio, Taranto, Bruhn, Sheezel, Phillipou (Green, Caminiti)

    $68k remaining

    At this stage, I’m at least trading Jones out for McKenna, which will leave me with about $129k spare.

    One thought I had was if it’s worth trading out Chesser for Callaghan, because I’d have enough to do that after the Jones trade, but I don’t know if I’m wasting a trade on that. I had Callaghan in and out of my side before Rd.1 and I wanted to keep him in. But there’s a couple of others I prioritized more and I couldn’t keep him in there.

    TU: Yup, get Callaghan in for Chesser
    TD: Don’t waste the trade on that/there’s a better trade option I could do

    If anyone else has any alternative suggestions on what to do with the $129k spare after the Jones > McKenna trade, please let me know

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    1. Chesser seems the least of your rookie worries.
      DPP on a WA team that’s bad and will be invested in playing him. If he plays he will be a slow burn if he doesn’t he’s a loop option.

      Phillips, Baker, Cowan, are your problem rookies. I’d be trying to upgrade one of them

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  15. Got some big decisions to make early in the season. Stewart the first, to Daicos. Jones to McKenna the second. I’ve basically decided to do these trades. The major issue I have is Whitfield. Trade Assist is suggesting Horne-Francis but a guy who suffers from home sickness may have a season-ending sniffle by Round 3 so I’d probably go a bit more up-market e.g. Cogs, LDU.
    TU – Hold Whitfield, he’ll do the 12 day concussion protocol and come back ‘firing’ in R3
    TD – Use the boost because there’s a reason why Whitfield is on everyone’s never again list, except mine.

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  16. At this stage going Jones > Mckenna
    TU: Bruhn to Horne francisa
    TD: Bruhn down to pedlar (2ook) for future upgrades

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    1. Comben’s score was boosted by rucking after Xerri went down. Expect to see Goldy back this week.

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    2. Not getting chandler till I know he’s playing game three and I get his price rise. Lots of Dees to come back in.

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        1. Pickett out for two means Chandler is almost guaranteed to get to 3 games especially off that last performance. He will probably need to continue his good form to hold his spot though.

          For me McVee, Laurie and Tomlinson come out for.

          Salem, Viney and May.

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  17. Boosting in R1?

    Tu: Boost and do all 3 trades
    Td: Don’t waste the boost yet (cancel Sheezel trade?)

    1. Jones > McKenna
    2. Fyfe > Horne-Francis
    3. F.Greene > Sheezel

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    1. I’d hold Greene and get Sheezel for Fyfe, get a bigger sample for JHF.
      You can always switch Greene to him after another game if he goes again.

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  18. Mid price madness was looking okay for me – started 11 premiums (incl Gulden) and 5 of the 300k gambles plus Callaghan and Jones.

    I would be satisfied with the results had it not been for Laird’s 50 which based on history, means he will not be a top 10 midfielder this year and has to go.

    My plans for this week:
    Out – Laird, Fyfe, Jones
    In – Cogs, Daicos, McKenna

    Gets me 12 premiums

    Next week trades:
    Out – One of Hopper/Bruhn, Chesser, Greene
    In – Mackenzie, Sheezel, best rookie I don’t have

    Gets me the best rookies and back to a resemblance of a pure GnR team.

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    1. Honestly I’m thinking this is the way to go.

      Start with lots of the 300k gambles and go 1 up one down weeks 1 and 2 to rookie correct/upgrade at the same time.

      Definitely helps the trade cadence

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    2. Regarding Laird…

      Not top 10?? Based on Averages or Total Points Scored.?

      Laird will lose some money value, how much all depends on round 2 scores. Even with the horrendous RD1 result i can still see him playing 22 games and finishing top 8 in total points scored.

      I selected both Oliver and Laird for points,

      I will double down this week and VC Laird against Richmond.

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  19. Day to any defender:

    Current Def:
    Doc, Dawson, Day, Ginbey, McKenna, Wilmot (Constance, Cowen)

    TU: N. Daicos
    TD: Young
    Comment: Rampe or other?

    Cheers guys

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  20. OUT -wanganeen and ash.
    IN- gulden, sheezle. (didn’t start sheelze since I had a midpricer at f6)

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  21. Why is everyone jumping ship on jones for this week? thoughts on the theory behind this if jones is back this weekend.
    He is playing the saints which after watching the game, gave tendency to leak the ball to defenders, hence the bonkers freo scores.
    So im thinking, give him a week of scoring? Can always go down to mckenna week after, also have a better gauge on second peformances for the price changes
    Would love to have some feedback on this

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    1. Jones has a history as at best a 70 point player with the odd freak game.

      So first of all you have to carry the 5 point game.

      Second of all, you need to extrapolate that 5 points to the 40% game time he got, meaning he was on for a 15-20 point game without injury.

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  22. See comments above from Gunboat…

    We needed Jones for cash generation , now has a BE of 78 which he might hit but would need to have some pretty big consistent scores for a number of weeks to make us the money we require from him.

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    1. Using the TooSerious salary predictor, if Jones averages 70 (toggled between 65, 70 and 75) he never loses ground and gets to $337 in round 9. An 80 average gets him to $390 in round 11.

      Probably not worth holding on to for a $110k gain as there are better options, but the cash generation will be there, albeit a bit slow.

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        1. Search for the player, click into them and you get that players history. On that page there is a Salary Predictor link.

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    2. Jones injury effected 5 will be out of rolling BE quickly.. So his cash generation potentially wouldn’t be effected too much of he could punch out some serviceable scores in next 2 games…

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      1. It’s only in there for one week.

        But consider players like McKenna, Wilmot, Uwland, Constableor even Cowan, let alone using dpp to extract benefit out of Bytel, Stocker, Menzie, Callaghan, Pedlar, Michalaney, Davey Jnr, Phillipou, Sheezel etc etc.

        Reality is Jones has no great path to cash growth compared to a Sheezel or MacKenzie type.

        You need to chop the least viable ones to improve your team.

        Right now he’s right in the least viable list, both short and medium term.

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    1. Whenever it helps you the most.

      If going for overall early is better, just save 1 for a late season emergency.

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    2. More history would be great but if you know you panic bought for round 1 now is a good time to do it.

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  23. Thoughts please

    And it’s not a points chasing trade, as i had the same query a few days ago, with all thumbs down, , so now I’m thinking it’s a correction trade for King.

    T/ U – Witts & Chandler
    T/D – Darcy & King

    Thank you

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    1. I’d hold Darcy. Playing against Marshall is much harder than Ladhams who Witts got to beat up. Darcy also scored about 170 against the roos last year and you’d kick yourself for missing out on that. King is also up against Hawthorn this week so might go real big if they play like they did against the bombers. Definitely hold off for now.

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  24. More or less set on the below:

    Jones to McKenna
    Bruhn to Ziebell (may wait a week on this one)

    Either this week or next, could Ashcroft to Bytel be viable?

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    1. Ashcroft will be better than shown this week.

      Bytel is worth a look for another misjudged player, but not ashcroft.

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  25. Sorry if this has been asked but Stewart to
    TU Daicos (could be tagged but very classy)
    TD Young (gets some kick outs, scores well)

    Cheers

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  26. Mostly concerned about cash gen at the moment, am somewhat okay with how the rest of the team is going. So DEF is the big issue rn. Already have McKenna and the usual suspects

    TU: Jones to Cole
    TD: Chesser to Cole

    Or any other DEF rookie-priced options?

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      1. Cheers. Have Constable, am uncertain about Uwland’s JS. If Jones plays this week I may just let it ride and hope no other leaks spring over the weekend. Can finalise it all before prices change

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    1. Still getting over Laird. Couldn’t believe what I was watching.

      Crows dominated for most of the game and even then he wasn’t getting in on the action. Very odd. Didn’t see any signs of a tag, Perryman down straight away. When the Giants came back and forced a contest, he still did nothing – and there was plenty of juicy scaling available.

      Plays the Tigers this week at home – a perfect match up for him and one he’s crushed many times. If he doesn’t go large and look on point, then he goes for me.

      About to have 4 straight games at AO, where is L3 average is 125, but against some dense opponents (Port, Dockers & Blues). If he pulls the same shit as yesterday and can’t go 130 v Tigers @ AO it’s gg.

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      1. Agree GD,
        Watching him closely this week- as he’s absolutely top price. One more week!
        Watched that game and he just wasn’t the same Laird as last 2 years!
        Thinking if he fails again- I’ll trade for LDU, who I was keen on for breakout year, then trade hopper for Coniglio & Bruhn for either Ziebell or JHF- if can back up.
        LDU about to go up 100 whereas Laird drops about 100 -if current form continues!

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    2. You picked laird because he is Top 8 in the MID by years end.

      I still think he will be Top 8 in points scored by years end and hardly misses a game.

      For me its a hold.

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  27. Using a boost:
    Fyfe to JHF
    Jones to McKenna
    Sinn to Phillips (With Phillips named Sub, I made the stupid last minute decision to swap these two so I could rookie loop FWD/MID).

    Besides Laird bombing and picking Doc VC/Neale C (over Witts), I’m pretty happy with my team and confident that will be my trades done for quite a while. Famous last words…

    TU: Do it.
    TD: Hold fire

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    1. I played Sinn to get Cheezel. With his dpp he could be handy if you want to check ,say a Ashcroft score or fwd rookie score using the loop. You can upgrade him to a top cashie next week after a second look.

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  28. Just tinkering here, most likely will hold Laird but this would give my team a shape I am much more comfortable with.
    Laird > Green (M4)
    Stewart > Daicos (D3)
    Jones > Ridley (D2)
    Thoughts?
    T/U – Go for it
    T/D – Hold

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  29. I know theres a lot of love for daicos but is it just me or are people sleeping on young??

    TU – N Daicos
    TD – H Young

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  30. Stewart > Daicos
    Jones > Mckenna
    Think those are locks unless theyre named then might reconsider.

    Do I boost and do (TU)
    Fyfe > JHF (could go up to 500k but like that as a straight swap)

    Or do I wait a week and see. (TD)

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    1. Do you have any other midpricers you can trade?

      Boosting is probably more worth it if you get another Premium.

      Also how are your bench rookies looking? Will you need 3 trades to fix them next week? If so going early on JHF (or downgrading Fyfe) is probably the right call

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  31. Still can’t believe Laird had 50.

    Rage trade Laird and Hopper (who looks slow outside a contest).

    Out: Laird, Hopper, Jones

    In: Coniglio, Horne-Francis, Young

    T/U Do it

    T/D. Give them another week

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  32. Ok I suck…. Same round 1 as many before, 50k rank 🙁

    Chasing my tail already – Do I,
    T/U –
    Jones > Mckenna
    Hopper > Callahan
    Bruhn > JHF

    or

    T/D
    Just wait a week

    11k in bank with shitties Long and Greene bench forwards with Madden my loop and McAndrews sitting on pine in Ruck.

    Leaning to trading as next week I don’t think 3 trades will be enough if I want to jump on the good fwd rooks – Chandler/Pedlar and my middies stink it up again plus Finn is going to get good game time with GWS mids out. I really liked JHF’s role in ports team. Can make bank along with scoring power.

    Thanks for reading

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    1. Simon, there’s an old saying “one swallow does not a summer make”, so why did you pick your players in the first place, and why are you giving up on them after one week? SC scores fluctuate weekly, and you could be chasing your tail and finding the scores you desire keep eluding you, because you keep changing your team to follow the current weekly scores. You are going to run out of trades with that philosophy.

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    2. There’s also some middle ground where you don’t necessarily have to choose between 3 trades or none but look at one or two instead. McKenna seems like a bit of a must have so I’m personally bringing him in for Jones for now. If you really like JHF or Callaghan, then it could be worth bringing just one in but I’d personally still hold in case Hopper or Bruhn bounce back this week while the two you want to trade in tank.

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  33. Dale > Daicos
    Day > Rampe
    Fyfe > Horne-Francis
    Leaves me with 78K

    Also Contemplating whether to hold jones and move him to the bench for Wilmot this coming week.

    T/U Pull the trigger
    T/D. Give them another week

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  34. Started today thinking some drastic stuff like shorting Clarry. (Which I still may value of a trade being 150k and all that ) but cooler heads are prevailing.

    Current team

    Def: Doc, Dawson, Clarke, Gibney, McKenna, Constable (Wilmont, Cowan)

    Mids : Clarry, Bont, Holmes, Setterfield, Hopper, Fyfe, Callahan, Ashcroft (Mackenzie, Chesser, Long)

    Ruck: Gawn, Marshall

    FWD: Dunks, Rozee, Toranto, Gulden, Zeibell, Sheezel (Green, Davey)

    Cash 100k

    3 trades this week:
    Proposed trades:
    Fyfe > Philapou. – Fyfe will have a hard time generating $$$. Puts cash in the bank, adds another MF to the mid bench. Mackenzie on field.

    Cowan > Rampe (or similar midpricer) only want one D only rookie on bench and have the $$$ to upgrade to an expensive rookie with a high ceiling.

    Boost:
    One of Clark, Hopper or Holmes to JHF.

    Looks a gun. Seems to be a must have. Probably keep Clark as a “take your medicine situation” Hopper most likely gone.

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    1. Rampe is a key defender. He’ll have a couple of these games every year but he’ll also have just as many games in the 40s so I wouldn’t be bringing him in. JHF definitely isn’t a must have yet, particularly because of how many good forward options we already have, but is certainly worth a look but I’d leave it another week, particularly when you’re tossing up between which of the 3 midpricers to cut.

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  35. Rookie Corrections trades

    Jones > McKenna
    Ratugolea > Sheezel

    I’m unable to trade out 123’900 rookies for Sheezel hence why Ratugolea has to go. He might score well while Stewart is out for a month but if keeping him, he will be sitting on the bench anyways. I have a strong forward line (Dunks, Cogs, Rozee, Gulden, Ziebell, Bruhn). Sheezel will be in the mids.

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      1. Oh yeah you’re right, can move Bruhn into the mids via Davey and keep Sheezel fwd.

        Hopefully after round 6, Sheezel gets a DPP

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  36. Sheezel comes in for me this week. I have Ginbey at M8 so I can go Jones to Sheezel using some DPP magic. ( Flanders Mid ). I really want Bruhn gone as well, but do I was a week to trade Bruhn to Ziebell. if I trade him now I may save myself from using a boost next week so..

    T/U Bruhn to Ziebell.

    T/D Wait and Boost next week.

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    1. Bruhn was scoring well and had decent CBA’s until half way through third quarter he pushed onto the wing.

      He was resting on the bench a fair bit in each quarter which was disappointing. I would wait a week and see his role on thursday night before making the final decision.

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    2. Can see the temptation but I’m waiting a week on Bruhn. Looked good early but got caught on the bench for the majority of the second half due to the Howe injury. Looking at Geelongs midfield to bounce back, albeit they come up against the Blues.

      Gives us another week also to look at Zieball who came up against West Coast so his score a little inflated given their poor forward entry.

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  37. Oh gee whiz what a shocker of a round … going to keep it simple and give the likes of Laird/Bruhn another round.

    Stewart > Dawson
    Jones > Sheezle (via some handy dpp)

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  38. Thoughts on
    Jones and McKenna -> Fyfe and Horny-Francis?

    Just wondering is having Fyfe really that bad or did he just have a terrible week? Didn’t he look insane in the off season?

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    1. Also can someone give me a reason not to rage trade captain Laird for ruining my week

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      1. Laird said that he struggled in the heat and the conditions was the worst that he had ever played in. He pointed out that many players on both teams suffered cramps.

        I would be forgiving of one disappointing game. We all chose Laird for a reason. As he is a keeper price fluctuations are immaterial, besides round one is only in the price cycle for one week.

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      2. Yeh Bill the Garden Gnome, do it, go on. Imagine how you will feel if Laird does it again? You don’t need the worry and stress.

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  39. I just had a look at my first 2 rounds last year.

    After R1 I was 50,161

    After R2 I was 2177

    A 400 point improvement in my R2 score helped.

    There is hope!!!

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  40. Understand the logic behind trading out Jones as probably not worth holding due to poor cash generation. My problem is I already have McKenna and no cash to upgrade him in the one trade (and don’t want to pull the pin on any other trades yet). My other rookie defenders are Wilmot, Cowan, Constable & Ginbey. SO I have 3 rookies onfield already. If I decide to trade him out (especially if he misses this week) :
    TU: Trade out Jones and find some cash from a 2nd (and maybe 3rd) trade to keep my backline with only 3 onfield rookies, by trading in someone like Daicos / Ridley / H Young
    TD: Trade out Jones, move Chesser from mid bench to def bench (and lose my DEF-MID swing) and trade in Hollands / Phillips / Phillipou (or even Pedlar via DPP)

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      1. As a Hawks man, I’m weary of seeing him actually commit to improving enough to be viable. He’s a decent price but that rubbish practice game is still a pretty recent memory

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      1. They aren’t to trade, they are to bring in, can only bring in 1..
        Not sure if that changes answers

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    1. Fyfe for? My order of preference as I like the Swans draw and Boak once back will take cba’s off the other Port mids. Thoughts appreciated.
      1: Gulden
      2: Butters
      3: Rozee

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    1. There’s a lot more analysis this pre season from many sources.
      Use it.
      Over correcting is sideways trading premiums who had a bad game.
      Getting rid of mid pricers who won’t make cash/be possible keepers due to not having the role or playing it well that you selected them for is fine.
      I.e don’t trade laird or Neale yet.
      Can trade hopper Clarke.

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  41. Is Gulden a must have?

    Bruhn & Hopper >>> Gulden & Chandler
    Downside of this would be my team becomes completely guns & rookies besides L.Jones, which will make it tough for me to generate enough cash to upgrade him to a premium over the next few weeks.

    TU – Do it
    TD – Wait

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  42. Hi
    Firstly this is a fantastic site to gain insight
    Secondly i’ve never seen so many panic merchants
    Round one was tough with little practice games also the dreaded injuries
    For your info i always set a league up with celebrities
    This is how they went
    Matt Turner 2134 (3799) Raymagoo22 2068 (12353) ABS Magic 2056 (14896)
    SuperCoach Mumma 1895 (73400) Don’t Argue 1911 (66438)
    The Phantom 2057 (14673)
    Plenty of us struggled – don’t forget it’s a long season

    Good luck and DON’T PANIC

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    1. Its interesting checking what trades the masses are doing compared to what the top 10,5 & 1% of scorers are doing. Pretty much across the board everyone is going cold on Jones, Fyfe & Hopper. The masses are also trading out Stewart and Laird in droves but the top 1% are not. Top traded out in order for the masses #1 Stewart, #2 Jones, #3 Fyfe, #4 Hopper, #5 Laird. Top traded out order for the top 1% – #1 Jones, #2 Hopper, #3 Fyfe … #8 Stewart … # Not in top 10 Laird.

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    2. Being aggressive isn’t panicking. It’s reaffirming your structure to optimise your trades going fwd. Don’t want to be putting out spot fires when the real upgrading begins.

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  43. Not too many concerns for me this weekend I’d still like a second look at a few blokes like Mckenna, chesser, JHF, Hopper off the top of my head before jumping on or off. I do own Jelly but as long as it’s only 1 match in the 12 day protocol I’ll hold. If two I might finally look at LDU! My goodness he looked good.

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    1. The issue with Jelly is that it just takes a slight complication that adds a day of rest that makes him miss 2 and you won’t know until next round so might have to consider it without knowing for sure. He did look great before going down though so I completely get holding him

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  44. If Jones doesn’t play this week thinking of pulling the trigger..

    Jones > Michalanney
    Hopper > Callaghan
    Ratugolea > Ziebell

    Yes I understand I might be jumping the gun on hopper, however I will lose 1 mid pricer and gain 2 cash cows in Callahan and Ziebell who looks to be a keeper in this role. I also get ratugolea off the field. Thought Michalanney looked solid over the weekend, other options could be Mcvee or Uwland.

    Thoughts appreciated!
    Tu or Td

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  45. Def: Doc, Ridley, Jones, Cole, Ginbey, Constable,
    ( Wilmot, Cowan)

    Trade Jones for

    TU: Dane Rampe
    TD: Conor McKenna

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    1. I like the Rampe move but might wait two weeks till he is on the bubble and re-assess with other options then.
      Could be a 2-3 week hold for lots of cash.

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    2. Hey Joe
      It’s Jimi Hendrix here
      Why trade just wait a week then pick either of your choices?
      You’ve got coverage Cowan got 35 from three qtrs maybe he flukes a 50
      If not Wilmot may do so
      Good luck

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  46. Jelly -> JHF
    Jones -> McKenna
    Chesser-> Daicos

    I know Jelly is only one week, but the trade strengthens my team all too well. Next week, most likely flicking Ashcroft to Callaghan, who I’d love to fade, and then fixing bench rookies up. Playing aggressive early for the first time. Hope I can crack into the top 1000 this week.

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    1. I wonder if the thumbs down are about one trade too many cause I really like this. Personally I’d want another week to assess JHF and Chesser so maybe save the boost that way?

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  47. Holding Stewart. If he had of scored a 90+ I’d have to replace that score. Seeing he only scored 20 a rookie (even a dud one improves that).
    Out -hopper, Ashcroft and goater.
    In -stocker, mckenna and ziebell.

    Strengthen backline in the absence of Stewart with good cash generation.
    Gamble on ziebell being a keeper as opposed to hopper.

    Next week bring in Gulden and Mackenzie/sheezle for worst performing mid pricers.

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    1. Ashcroft’s preseason was pretty good, wouldn’t be dropping him after 1 bad game. Dunkley and Neale weren’t much better. Ziebell the only ‘in’ there that I’d trust.

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  48. Ok so after getting over Laird’s 50 and sensibly thinking about my team, I realised if I had Oliver instead of Laird, I’d obviously not be trading him out so on this basis, I think Laird stays but has been out on notice to pull his finger out asap!

    I am likely to change my mind again once I press that lovely trade button.

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  49. Fyfe for? My order of preference as I like the Swans draw and Boak once back will take cba’s off the other Port mids. Thoughts appreciated.
    1: Gulden
    2: Butters
    3: Rozee

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  50. Why are so many people talking about trading out Laird? Yes, his value will go down considerably after the 3rd week, but it doesn’t matter………..he’s a keeper!
    He has played quality consistent footy for many years. He had a bad game……..move on

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  51. Steele > Callaghan
    Liam Jones > Daicos

    Not ideal trading out Steele, however I gain an extra cash cow in Callaghan. The midfield also looks the best place to go light at the moment with a few mid pricers/rookies doing the business!

    Also dont like the rookie options down back apart from the options I am already fielding.
    (Ginbey, Constable & McKenna)
    This makes it hard to downgrade Jones.

    TU or TD

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  52. TU: Jones > McKenna
    Fyfe > Coniglio
    Kelly > LDU (60k in the bank)

    TD: Jones > McKenna
    Fyfe > Coniglio (35k in the bank)

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    1. Depends on the specific league settings. Check the ‘Leagues’ tab and it will tell you.

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  53. Is it worth trading Hopper or Bruhn to Horne-Francis?
    Thinking too early and will see how they all go next week

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  54. Don’t want to panic trade so i’m holding on Hopper and Jones (if available), only trade i’m considering this week is Bruhn to Worpel. Thoughts?

    TU: Go for it
    TD: Give him 1 more week

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  55. Rage trade Fyfe to T Green this week, or is Fyfe just having a bad hair day.

    T/U Rage trade and feel better, Green a good replacement no much ITB
    T/D Keep Fyfe he just had a bad game and will improve, trade before price changes Rd3

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    1. Constable might be gone in 2 weeks I reckon, 43% DE is very poor, 11 direct turnovers. Weller/Ellis/Powell/Lemmens are all close to returning.

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  56. Only “problems” in my team are possible under performers W Brodie and Dylan Moore ?
    Trade or hold another week?

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  57. Team pulled 2194 and is currently
    Doc – Ryan – Young – Day – Gibney – Constable (Wilmont – Cowan)
    Laird – Oliver – Titch – Hooper – Worpel – Ashcroft – Mackenzie – Hollands (Chesser – Davey Jr – McDowell-White)
    Witts – English (Free)
    Dunks – Rozee – Taranto – Gulden – Sheezel – Phillipou (Greene – Long)

    TU -Don’t use trades this week
    TD – Do some tweaking

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  58. Have Laird, Jones, Fyfe, Hopper, Greene, Chesser, Cowan. Holding on all besides Jones down to Mckenna, will see how Fyfe goes this week but he’s most likely going to JHF next week if he has another poor game.

    TU: Good stuff
    TD: Pull the trigger on someone else

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