Analysis: 2022 Midpricers

Written by Gunboat Diplomacy on February 17 2022

2021 was a seminal lesson on the value and utility of midpricers. For only 100k more than a standard 123k, the likes of Ziebell and Impey slotted into cozy half back roles and pumped out keeper worthy scores for as long as they stayed on the park – getting a dreaded FWD off the field and punishing those who passed. Down back many searched for D4 depth, with plenty hopping on the Clark only to see him buried by the under the radar Cumming who cruised to a 92.9 after a banal pre-season performance.

With a presently dire rookie crop up forward and down back, judiciously identifying and selecting midpricers will again be critical to SC success. A midpricer’s currency lies in getting a rookie off the field, putting up serviceable scores and generating cash to finance your dash to full premo. In this article we’ll loosely define midpricers as those between 200-300k, skipping over elevated 2nd year and expensive rookies for the most part.

On selecting midpricers, it is critical you:

  1. Identify an SC conducive role. Soft half back distributor gigs or a role with substantial MID minutes are typically the most relevant.
  2. Account for the player’s job security and durability. Midpricers are often either developing into an SC conducive role or being transititioned/repurposed into one. For younger players, their spot in the best 22 is key and for those at higher age brackets durability and injury profile must be considered. Remember: they’re at that 200-300k price for a reason.
  3. Note their impact on your whole team. How does it affect your bye structure? Are Sicily and Milera better than Lloyd and rookie for example?

On monitoring your midpricer selections, you should:

  1. Follow CT’s updates in the Coaches Box. Anything and everything SC related during the pre-season from injuries, reports and coaches comments will be posted by CT.
  2. Read the respective Team Previews. Put together by the admin writers as well as community contributors these will succinctly give you the SC profile of a player.
  3. Watch the pre-season games. We’ll have match chats and reports up but there’s no substitute for sussing out an SC pick with your own eyes.
Defenders

Keidan COLEMAN (BRIS, $263.2k, 8%)

Garnered a lot of interest and a spike in ownership over the last fortnight after word he looks to be retaining the HB role slipped into in R23 and 2x finals for scores of 87, 90 and 77. Playing in the A side in match sims so should be insulated from a Wilmot debut at some point. Likely goes somewhere in the 70s-90s but his main utility is the depth and flexibility he can add to your side. Allows coaches to get a non-existent DEF or FWD rookie off the field and coverage at both ends, especially with Skinner, De Koning and Kelly all potentially lining up.

Jake BOWEY (MELB, $265.6k, 4%)

Barely a peep on Bowey but broke into a a top tier side in Round 20 and played right through to a Grand Final, all in his debut year. Went at 61.7 in those 4x H&A games and 3x finals with an awkward floor of 40~ but 2x 80s. Clearly rated very highly internally and could be a real gem if he expands his scoring economy and works out those 40s.

Wayne MILERA (ADEL, $271.1k, 16%)

He’s got a potentially conducive fantasy role at HB, had a couple of decent SC average years but was struck down by the left knee injury early last season and durability now real concern. On a modified training load, the Crows remain one of the poorest D50 rebounding and turnover sides, so may not have that great an economy and there’s always the crutch of guys like Seedsman, Smith and even Dawson spreading and seagulling around.

Honourable Mentions: Kyron HAYDEN (NTH, $199.6k, 0%) has similarly been hampered by injury and receives a mention because he’s genuinely got some talent, just need a defined role and a good run with injury – gets a shout in RB’s write up soon. Both Denver GRAINGER-BARRAS (HAW, $206.7k, 3%) and Caleb MARCHBANK (CARL, $209.3k, 5%) look to be best 22 with some upside in utility roles and Lachie JONES (PTA, $269.4k, 1%) is reportedly angling for MID minutes, which’ll be tough but speak to his talent and the esteem he’s held in at Alberton. Monitor them all.

Midfielders

Charlie CONSTABLE (GCS, $213.4k, 12%)

Criminally held back at the Cats for ages and finally looks to be getting run at the Suns. Plan initially was to add him straight into the on ball brigade but return of Rowell, ascendancy of Anderson, rediscovery of Fiorini, the constant that is Touk Miller and now the quick pick up of Tsitas means an OB role for Constable probably doesn’t materialize. Reportedly being repurposed at HB in recent match sims. Lot of cooks down there but if Lukosious is experimented with FWD as anticipated Constable’s craft could see him accumulate nicely.

Jye CALDWELL (ESS, $266.7k, 11%)

Initially dismissed him on the grounds that the Dons have too many MIDs going around but Caldwell’s been firmly in the guts during match sims – perhaps one of those players one dimensional players that can only be OB and still rated internally. With Stringer and Shiel likely to end up underdone and even Zerrett seeing a little HF action, Caldwell might have a pretty sweet scoring stream.

Jarrod BERRY (BRIS, $268.5k, 9%)

Tricky to get a read on the Lions’ midfield mix right now. Everyone’s juiced on Rayner and McCluggage, Neale’s back, Zorko being experimented with and now battling, Robertson still best 22 in a defensive role and Lyons out of the last few match sims – tricky indeed. Probably comes down to his CBA load and where he’s spending his time off ball. We’d prefer him in a MID/FWD split rather than a MID/wing role, as the former is where he’s popped off before. After 6x 120+’s (127, 150, 121,124, 133, 141) and a 97.1 average in 2020, a decent CBA load and Berry’s got the goods and experience to not only deliver a comfortable financial return but put up some juicy scores. Role will be key.

Matt ROWELL (GCS, $342.9k, 25%)

I know I said 200-300k qualified as a midpricer but relative to the MID premos Rowell is basically a midpricer and in a quarter of teams – hot damn! Can he return to the electricity and heights of those trio of 3 vote performances he opened his debut year with? His role on ball is concrete but the issue is have those two consecutive substantial injuries hampered his mobility and confidence? It’s all about the eye test for Rowell. Suns Cats on the 7th of March. Be there.

Honourable Mentions: Dylan SHIEL (ESS, $361.1k, 4%) copped some quad tightness and scans the other day but was tracking nicely until then and was of interest. Pat LIPINSKI (COLL, $359.9k, 4%) put great numbers together on the rare occasion he got MID time at the Dogs, monitor his CBA load as he could relish carving it up at a rebuilding side. Who knows what the deal with Dan HANNEBERY (STK, $255.3k, 2%) is? A man with his accolades and 6x years of 95-115 SC averages always worth a mention but doubt he pans out. Just quickly, Jai NEWCOMBE (HAW, $261.3k, 1%) more so a second year rookie than a midpricer with a discerbanle SC trajectory and role but reportedly been smashing the Hawks intraclubs. Could totally see Clarkson’s blooding him OB as the Hawks for a new generation of midfielders with Ward, MacDonald and the likes.

Rucks

Braydon PREUSS (GWS, $204.7k, 30%)

Head on over to FT’s GWS Preview for a run down of Braydon “The Pipe Dream” Preuss as he dubbed him, just worth jotting down as he’s in 30% of teams and could make decent coin quitely off R3 from a bunch of games consecutively or not. The latest from GWS’ match sim the other day was he had both lower legs strapped as was the ruck in the B Side against the Flynn Briggs 1-2 in the A Side. The GWS decision on their ruck roulette will settle the Preuss pick.

Forwards

Stephen CONIGLIO (GWS, $261.3k, 64%)

I wasn’t a fan of Coniglio in my early drafts. Out of action in 2021, uninspiring when he returned (60.0 2021 average), developed a worrying injury profile the last 5 years and fresh concerns over match fitness and role. However confirmation that he’s been training strongly 80% in the midfield and Trapanto condemned to the forward line, Cogs is looking close to a must have. Prior to his horror 2021, he averaged: 91.7 (2015, 18 games), 105.9 (2016, 21 games), 91.4 (2017, 7 games), 108.4 (2018, 21 games), 101.2 (2019, 15 games) & 98.4 (2020, 16 games).

Even if you’re not sold on the recent positive development any fool with the CBA load Cogs looks set for can do 80 and as the highest owned player at 64% he becomes a shield pick. If he pops off and you don’t have him you’re well and truly behind the eight ball.

Cam RAYNER (BRIS, $278.6k, 26%)

He’s been receiving insane coverage from the press and the Lions internally during his first pre-season post-ACL. The former high draft pick has accrued plenty of hype as he trains in the on ball role and has reportedly dominated every match sim. That said, beating up on the B Side in a match sim is completely different to squaring up against an elite opposition midfield at AFL level – and that’s the concern for Rayner: he’s not battle tested. Never had a substantive OB role in a H&A season and potentially lacks the ball winning and play reading ability to capitalize on a strong CBA load. The role will be there, just watch for the latter.

Will BRODIE (FREO, $224.3k, 12%)

Torn apart by FT in his Freo Preview (again, be sure to read our Team Preview series) and the consensus seems to be he won’t be best 22 and if he somehow is he won’t have solid enough MID minutes to warrant SC selection. Perhaps most telling as FT and CT drew to our attention: Brodie finished last in the Freo time trials behind the perma-strapped Sean Darcy. Yowza.

Charlie CURNOW (CARL, $224.3k, 26%)

One of those athletic forwards who presses and gets involved but had a shocker run with injury. Word right now is he’s having a killer preseason and could have even come in last year but they played it slow. Comes in the cheapest of the established midpricers and has done full seasons of 74.2 and 77.5. The Blues basically rigged fixture definitely bolsters his case. Definitely watch how he jives with McKay; who’s higher up the ground and gets more service.

Might sound a little dramatic but genuinely possible that the Walsh injury diminishes Curnow’s prospects as midpricer. Can the lab rat Cripps and Co provide the service that forward line needs? Maybe, but certainly not to the standard that Walsh would’ve.

Willie RIOLI (WCE, $225.3k, 3%)

Always been the Eagles link man between the half forward line and midfield and had excellent game reading ability and fitness before his little ganja incident. Will be raring to go and the Eagles will be forced to diversify their forward entries with Darling out and Allen now injured. Problem is he’s playing in a side that’s a ways off it’s premiership 2018 and competitive 2019, when he did 58.7 and 69.0 respectively. A small forward in a declining side is always dicey.

Jade GRESHAM (STK, $299.0k, 24%)

We were all hot on Gresham when SC first opened however a few developments since have had many cool their jets. Gresham reportedly hasn’t been finishing match sims and has been seen taped up and most troubling there’s talk of a FWD dimension to his role. The ideal scenario was a full preseason in an OB role – that’s not the way it’s shaping up so far. The allure remains however that he’s 24 and looked to be on the cusp of a breakout in 2019 after 84.1 and then in 2020 with 81.5 from 11 games.

Honourable Mentions: Mitch MCGOVERN (CARL, $256.0k, 1%) has been lining up as that 3rd tall but still think he’ll struggle for continuity there. Plenty of raps early, cash thrown at him, a lot of promise but fallen flat – he’s truly the Carlton of players barring some ridiculous pre-season form. Have Greg Clark ahead of him, which is great, but our ever battered midfield could see the aptly named Connor WEST (WCE, $249.8k, 0%) get some substantive MID rotations.

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51 thoughts on “Analysis: 2022 Midpricers”

  1. Great write up and agree with pretty much all of it.

    At the moment I’ve got Berry, Bowey and Coniglio, with my level of enthusiasm in that order. I’ve had a long look at Constable but not sold he has the JS to be worth the price tag.

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  2. Cogs & Rayner on field, Preuss & Bailey Williams on my bench. Would love to turn the Rayner spot into a rookie to upgrade elsewhere. Pretty keen to keep the ruck/fwd swing Williams and Comben provide, but I do worry Williams will end up being a waste of a pick.

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  3. I’ve currently got Tom Green (430k), Cogs (261k) and Tyson Stengel (247k) as my mid pricers.

    Probably only Cogs definite at this stage.

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    1. Yeah, didn’t have enough intel to discuss Stengel. Figured small FWD at 250k not that relevant but you definitely know something as a Cats man that I don’t.

      Tom Green? Wow, interesting. Teased for a while and almost a quasi-M8 at that price. Think those 11x MID spots are extra valuable this year; for premo keepers and all these attractive rookies – so you’d have to back Green for a BUMPER season.

      Would love your rationale on both. Could be onto something.

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      1. You’re right, I’m not sure on either. Stengel is an interesting one. I think he’ll slot straight into the best 22, especially with Myers injured. My gut says that’s the reason they got Betts across, so they’re investing heavily. He is a gun and will want to prove himself.

        Green is a huge risk and I’m not sure he’ll make it to the final line up. But is a good place holder and I’ll wait and see how the early games go.

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    1. Thanks, Nateo.

      Yep, watching the pre-season games are a MUST (if you can). Checking the SC scores or reading something the next day not good enough.

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      1. Just a note of caution on Preseason games.

        Outside players tend to have inflated scores as the tacking is toned down a heap. No one wants to get injured in a preseason game for no points.

        Last year Clark scored well in the practice games and sucked a few in ( guilty) then couldn’t get close to those scores again. Also Short scored 170 in a practice match. This footy is pretty bruise free, so I expect guys like Milera to possibly do better than in the season proper.

        Just something to keep in mind anyway.

        Thanks GD for a great Preview of this years Midpriced talent.

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  4. Why do you tempt me with this 🙁

    Those 3 mids look awfully good. Hopefully the rookies allow for at least two.

    I have had Rowell in my draft team all pre-season but have dropped him out for Berry and upgraded a rookie to Caldwell. If Rowell does the 110 for first 2 rounds that is a correction trade you need to make but last seasons form has me worried.

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  5. Great write up.

    Completely agree with all comments on Cogs, and that’s why I will be starting him. Curnow and Rayner both in the forward line for me too, ideally Rayner goes down to a rookie for cash elsewhere. Pruess on the bench currently but not sure if that will last, again ideally can use the extra $100k elsewhere. Constable in the middle too.

    Would love to move Rayner, Pruess and Constable to rookies to give me a premium at D4, however playing conservative at this stage until there is more confirmation on rookies.

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  6. I have Caldwell and Cogs in my current side. Don’t usually run with many mid pricers but see how the pre season games go and some like Coleman and Berry could force my hand

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  7. Something to consider with these picks, while all of them entice us with their gleaming potential, a keeper from mid price is very rare.
    IMO you should be looking at them as cash gen, which requires a consideration of their value vs the rookie they replace.
    A suggestion to consider, what to they need to average to make you 150k and how likely is it that they hit that target (maybe look at how many players hit that average in their position last year as a guide). Then compare with the same calculation for your rookie.
    There’s a reason mid-price madness is a trope of SC, so buyer beware.

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    1. Jarrod Berry should do this:
      2018: 21 games, ave 80, highest salary 448k, 4 x 100 with 3 of those in last 4 games
      2019: 18 games, ave 85, highest salary 482k, 4 x 100
      2020: 15 games, ave 97, highest salary 558k, 6 x 100 with 3 in first 4 games

      Interestingly he has missed the first round each year.

      At 268k he should gain at least 150k and tends to group his good games together which gives a good salary spike.

      If he is fit through preseason he should be a strong starting selection.

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    2. Steven Coniglio should also be a good cash generator, although he is a bit older than Berry he also has a very strong scoring history. Coming back from his last largely disrupted season (2017 – 7 games) he has:
      2018: 21 games, ave 108, max salary 550k
      2019: 15 games (1 game + 6 games at end of season missed), ave 101 (one game of 0 points), max salary 588k, 9 x 100
      2020: 16 games (1 game missed), ave 98, max salary 557k , 9 x 100

      He generally stays fit and scores big. Should be able to make 200-250k.

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    3. The extra 5 trades help in that regard, and also benefit long term scoring trends.

      Of course the trap is always in churning over too many players at too low a profit.

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    4. Dunno if you were paying attention last year but it was very similar to every other year with regard to mid priced players.
      KPF’s called Daniher & Walker made huge $ and a couple of mid priced forwards called Stringer & Thomas finished with top 20 fwd averages, while a guy called Impey ave over 90

      A mid priced Ruck called Hickey and mid priced ruck called Darcy finished 5th and 2nd rank rucks

      A mid priced mid called Parish and others called Keays, Fiorini, Ziebell and Selwood all ave over 100 and a bloke called Heppell ave 99

      Among the mid priced defenders a guy called Hall ave 105, another called Bailey ave 95, a bloke called wietering ave 94, a bloke called Hind ave 93 as did a guy called Cumming.

      To suggest that the game isn’t won or lost buy selecting the right mid-pricers is naive gossip.

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      1. Lion Tamer..

        Arrogance is a very ugly trait and Hindsight makes for very easy choices.

        Let’s see how easy to predict they really were…..

        Many of the folks you mentioned were players with bad injury history and or average scoring history. Some as forwards. These guys changed roles and that was the key to their scoring spike. ..Hall . Heppell . Impey . Ziebell . Hind . Dale.
        Most got on Ziebell and Impey as we knew about their role changes before R1 Hall, Dale , Hind changed roles early in the season. how were you going to know to start them ??

        Parish and Fiorini . Stringer Started slowly as Forwards, and then got better midfield roles before exploding. Another change of role scenario , Do you know what the coaches going to do ?

        Then there was the old guys. who hadn’t done much for a while ( or never ) but put in carrier best ( or near ) efforts. Tex , Selwood ( went back into the middle when Danger went out. ) Hickey had his best year at 29 with no history. Good luck picking any of these.

        Danniher was the exception, but was technically a fallen Premium as he had shown form before his near 2 year absence. For those that trusted the Brisbane medical staff and jumped on. He was great.

        Then there’s the Breakouts ..
        Cummings . Thomas and Bailey were all given greater roles and excelled
        These are the true diamonds in the rough that we look for every year.

        Picking midpricers is still a gamble in SC , Last year there was literally only a handful that you could of reasonable guessed may work. Most of these were in the forward line similar to this year.
        The Guns and Rookies approach has been the cornerstone of successful Coaches for long as I can remember. Name me one winner of SuperCoach in the last 10 years that started a heap of Midpricers. You won’t find one.

        Yes picking a couple of lower priced Breakouts and fallen Premo’s can certainly help build a good side. You pick too many though, and the ones that don’t work out are going to weigh you down.. They also take rookie spots and the rookies are called cash cows for a reason, they make cash the fastest due to their low starting price. Not enough rookies not enough cash . You’re not getting to full Premo.

        The key to SC is picking the best rookies and durable Premo’s . Somewhere between 1-3 ( best 22 ) midpricers maybe needed / wanted to fill gaps in rookie weak spots like F4-6 and D4-6.

        Even with the extra trades I’m pretty sure all the best teams will take this approach. If you think you can win by picking a heap of midpricers do it. let’s see where you end up.

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        1. I fully agree with the guns and rookies being the easiest strategy to get to top 5000 overall, knowing those role changes and not being afraid to go early is what separates the top 500 out.

          Get it wrong with the mid pricers and you have the millstone as you rightly pointed out.

          The only addition that I thought was a lower risk was the Hickey selection. He had seasons of high 80s and low 90s as a first ruck at St Kilda. Once it was known that he was Swans only ruck the role was there for him to return to good money making scores. What he did was outperform that expectation.

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        2. If you get 3 x midpricers that outperform their price by 30 points you would be better off than 1 x premium breaking even and 2 x rookies outperforming their price by 40 points.

          Midprice: 3 x $270k (priced at 50 average) that average 80 = 240 points for $810k
          Guns & Rookies: 1 x $600k (110 average) and 2 x $125k (priced at 23 average) that average 63 = 236 points for $850,000

          It is close but 4 points and $40k is something. Is the increased difficulty in getting the correct picks in a mid price strategy worth it?

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  8. Currently just running cogs but have been monitoring Caldwell very closely. Don’s were very keen on bringing him across from GWS for a reason and that was too play inside mid and they love him down there too. Was best on ground in the first half in there intra the other day then sat out second half. Happy to pay up the 60-70k to get from a JHF too jye at this point in time. JHF might not get the CBAs we all expect him too think he plays alot fwd this year.

    Fantastic article GD. Love it!

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    1. Jye Caldwell –

      “Dynamic. He’s an impressive player. He missed a large chunk of last year but has had a really good summer. Just on the side of caution (rested in 2nd half of intraclub) but he’s in good shape.”

      Dale Tapping, Essendon assistant coach.

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      1. Rested in the second half cause he tore the intra club apart and the coaching staff didn’t need to see anymore. Alot of mouths too feed in that midfield but I feel he’s one of there in an unders who will play inside.

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  9. Good job GD!

    I’ve got a shitload currently (Milera, Berry, Preuss, Gresh, Curnow and Cogs), and considering Caldwell given his start.

    Way too many I know but I am patiently awaiting some solid evidence from the trials and holding half a mill for some serious flexibility which will probs see a couple of extra premos land in my side come season proper.

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  10. You know you’ve treaded into the SC back country when you’ve got a midpricer in your current squad that doesn’t even get mentioned in an incredibly awesome and detailed piece like this. Brilliant analysis GD.

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  11. Thanks, all.

    Going to be doing a few more long form pieces like this, as well as full pre-season reports/analysis with the help of the rest of the team after the AAMI series.

    Cheers.

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  12. The one I have the biggest wraps on for is Rayner.
    Yeah I know, playing against a weak B team and all but he was a high draft pick who did look the goods last year until disaster struck.

    Milera sounding like he’s not quite right at least up until today so Coleman gets the nod there, especially considering his last 3 games in the role and a supposedly hot preseason run. Not saying Milera’s a bad pick, but I’m starting to aim more at stacking the backs and run more rookies in the mid (given JHF, Stephens, Hobbs, Daicos) so there’s probably not too many spaces for budget defenders if you want to get the best rookie options.

    Coleman’s dpp is highly useful with some likely rookies sharing the fwd/def dpp, cherry on top for sure.

    Gresham having more niggles in preseason, regardless how he’s doing in his half match sim time is the sort of warning that really does make you think twice. With Cogs, Curnow, Coleman and Rayner all available in the forwards I’m about 4 drafts away from Gresh.

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    1. I would steer clear of Gresham for a few reasons:
      – Last 3 healthy season averaged 80-85, not high enough to keep
      – Max salary in season has been ~470k, cash generation max out at 170k in historical best case
      – His best season in 2019 had 6 x 100, 2 of those occasions had back to back but never really big to spike a price increase.

      All this coming off a torn achilles and niggles in preseason I can’t see him either providing scoring or cash generation.

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    2. Word from St Kilda is confusing “He hasn’t really missed a beat this summer. He had a few setbacks here and there”
      I would suggest that if he had a few setbacks then he has missed a beat. Confused.

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      1. It was clumsy statement but what I think he meant was, in the past he has had a few set backs but this summer he has not miss a beat.

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  13. To Rowell or not to Rowell. Probably like most on here, I’ve got about 3 teams of different structures that i’m happy with. Fitting all the expensive rookies in, holding the few top priced prems on each line that i just want from the start essentially means if i go with Rowell, end up dropping a premo and adding rowell and another midpricer. Guess its called midpriced madness for a reason hey!
    Solid write up thank you.

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    1. Ive personally gone with Caldwell atm.

      I know a lot of people will be watching Rowell closely during PS.

      Can relate heavily with the different structured teams though…. See what sticks closer to R1!

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      1. I don’t mind Caldwell Abs.

        The $100K saved from someone like Rowell gets you 2 base rookies (with most likely questionable JS )up to guys like Stephens ( Swans ) Ward or Erasmus. That should have better roles at their clubs.

        Also If he ( Caldwell ) doesn’t work, he’s an easy downgrade to a Mid rookie.
        ( there will definitely be one we miss )

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    2. To me Rowell is a fallen premo (albeit 3 games). I prefer fallen premo midpricers ahead of breakouts since fallen premos have been there before. Conversely every season there are a dozen breakouts spruiked up and too many don’t get there.

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  14. I have none and after reading this article it has solidified my stance. If I can free up some coin then MAYBE Cogs, but happy with guns n rookies structure with 13 keepers.

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  15. I think midpricers are more attractive now than ever before. There will be numerous times during the season when premos are not playing because of covid. Midpricers will provide more reliable cover and usually better scoring than rookies. I would be nervous only batting 3 deep in Def or Fwd with 3 on field rookies.

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  16. So many genuine mid priced options missed in this article but I suppose that if you only mention the ones that every website has already bought up can use the time old ‘well they also said it’ excuse if you crash.
    Interesting that a lot of the guys that you are now rating were dismissed by you as not having a chance when others bought them up on this website earlier this year.
    is Plagiarism a skill or a crime?

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    1. Lion Tamer. I will take the bait ..

      It’s real easy to jump on and criticise others hard work. No ones getting paid big money to write for this site. We all do the best we can with limited resources. If you see something similar somewhere else it is a coincidence nothing else. Plagerism is vary harsh accusation, and I wouldn’t be making it without a heap of proof and direct links to the article in question.

      You mention a heap of other Midpricers. Name them, and tell us why you think they are worth a shout. No one on this site will ever claim to have all the answers . If you know something we don’t please share .

      Some other things to keep in mind…

      This site is totally free, lt endeavours to help each other become better Super Coachers as a community.
      We all have opinions that may change as the preseason develops. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean they’re wrong . It just means they have a different opinion.

      This site is designed so you can come and share information and judge your ideas / opinions against a heap of very experienced coaches .

      If you just want to jump on and troll, go somewhere else.

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  17. Great write up and making some very valid points.
    Currently running 4; Rayner (F3), Coleman (F4), Cogs (F5) and Caldwell (M5).
    Caldwell might be the one to make way depending rookies announced in the forward line as they look very slim. Curnow just might be the one I go to making him F6 and I run a rookie through the mids instead (making it 4 premiums and 4 rookies onfield).

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