Where and when: Thursday 8:10pm (AEST) at Optus Stadium.
Last time they met:
Friday September 6, 2019 – Week 1 of the 2019 Finals
Geelong 7.9 (51) def by Collingwood 9.7 (61) at the ‘G.
What it means for Geelong: An opportunity to avenge their dumping from the 2019 Finals series and to put their 4th straight win on the board since being smashed at home by The Mighty Blues in Round 3.
What it means for Collingwood: A strong win against the Hawks last week got their season back on track. Another win this week would see them back in Top 4.
Mottsy Watch: Grundy of course. But also keen to see if the Geelong kid Simpson can back up his ton from last week.
Mottsy’s Tip: Geelong by 20.
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Noble a late in
YOU BEAUTY!
LATE CHANGES
PIES:
John Noble in for Mason Cox
CATS:
No changes
Which website lets you know if theres any late outs or not. The AFL website is all over the place atm! Someone please link me so i can look at it going forward.
Thanks!
Your looking at it!
I honestly just use the match threads on this site.
Jump on the official AFL twitter account about 55 mins before the game Jason
Thx Chillo
Love your work champ
TU: simspon
TD: day
I dont know about simpsons JS… half hour to decide
Thinking of trading green to Simpson
How much more is green expected to increase pricewise
green is dropped.. trade him jo
Quick one
Vc:
T/U Grundy
T/D Danger
DANGERFIELD v Pies
L3 v Pies: 97, 137, 65 (100 av.)
L3 @ OS: 57, 100, 141 (99 av.)
GRUNDY v Cats
L3 v Cats: 81, 137, 83 (100 av.)
L3 @ OS: 137, 150, 98 (128 av.)
Thanks GD,
The coaches have spoken
Many thanks
Need to trade out Duncan and Fyfe
TU – 2 premos in
TD – 1 premo in and Simpson in
Or hold Duncan
Lot of last minute questions involving Simpson.
Anyone got any insight on his JS? Played with Duncan in the team last week, so probably more to it than a simple swap idk.
Idk either GD, but I’m deciding between McPherson to boost my DEF rookies or add Simpson to my MID given Fyfe is out. I agree with you about the 2x downgrade this week and sort out Fyfe next week.
I think go with Simpson based on ceiling and current predicament, it’s probably between him or Clark on who goes out for Duncan/Narkle, although we possibly have 2-3 weeks to sort that out..
Yeah, McPherson’s score was inflated by how much the Eagles were getting it I50 last week. I’m going Simpson, then I’ll bring in a DEF premo next week to settle things down.
Simpson gives me another reason to watch the game tonight lol.
Very much on the same page with that one – also I can’t wait until Monday to see if McPherson outscores Simpson, delayed gratification is not my strong suit
Who to trade out (was going to be Noble) has become the last minute decision! Will be double downgrading and have plenty of DPP to use.
Current options are: Starcevich, T Green, McInerney or Brander.
Anyone know when Brander is likely to be back?
Green and McInerney both named emergency, shame McInerney didn’t get a game with all the swans outs, makes me think he’s going to find it tough making his way back in. Green also got poor game time last week and clearly out of favour
Starcevich will lose money, but he’s playing at least!
ANyone have a suggestion, I’d love to hear it!
T/u = Starc
T/d = Green
T/u McInerney
T/D Brander
I’m going to hold Starcevich, as at least he’s playing and I don’t love the downgrade options on offer this week. Don’t have anyone to DPP him with so will hold him. May well end up staying as my loophole D7 for the rest of the year as he’s in Brisbane’s best 22 and is obviously capable of throwing in a solid score periodically.
I’m going to cut McInerney free because I agree with you that if he can’t make the cut this week then he’ll need further injuries to get another run. Will bring Simpson in for him.
Still undecided on my other trade but it will either be Budarick or Green for Rankine.
What is the word on Duncan & Narkle hammies – 3 weeks each?
i.e. does that give Simpson at least 3 to make cash?
OR
Day is named as HF – who displaces him ?
TU: Simpson
TD: Day
To trade in Rankine, who makes way
TU- McInerney / T Greene via DPP
TD- D Cameron / B Davis (my only rookie who hasn’t played a game)
Who do I trade out for Simpson?
TU- McInerney
TU- T Greene
Send Mac packing. McInerney couldn’t find his way back in despite all the injuries to the Swans this week. Greene will bob up again.
Thanks GD
After all my intentions of wanting Starcevich gone, he stays…..
Needed to bring in Simpson otherwise doughnut in the midfield and then Rankine looking real promising. Leaves me frustrated but can’t have everything go my way
Hanging around like a bad smell at this point, but gotta take the points…never know, he might just smash out a 60 if we’re lucky!
Let’s just hope he pumps out a decent score so it feels like we haven’t been punished for having to hold him
Think Starcevich will go alright this weekend was cleaned up by Rohan in the first quarter last week and was looking alright prior to that, to be honest can’t believe Rohan’s playing tonight, was reported on the spot for that incident and should’ve gone on video for another incident shortly after.
Steven is making a meal of it every time he gets the footy, but he’s getting around it a bit early on
Woke up just in time to reverse trades and get Noble back. Hope he scores well!
Selwood hammy ?
Yes, he is done.
Has the jacket on.
No ice on it.
According to the radio.
Update that, he is done according to the abc radio.
ice on the hamstring.
Out for the night and hopefully helps Simpson get around the ball more
My thoughts exactly, Nato.
1/4 Time – Magpies by 7 points and Selwood done for the night, hammy strain
Geelong Cats: 1.1.7
Mark Blicavs 30
Jordan Clark 27
Darcy Fort 24
Gryan Miers 22
Gary Rohan 22
Luke Dahlhaus 19
Zach Tuohy 19
P. Dangerfield 17
Jed Bews 17
Brandan Parfitt 16
Tom Hawkins 15
Harry Taylor 14
Cameron Guthrie 13
Sam Simpson 10
Sam Menegola 9
Joel Selwood 9
Jack Henry 9
Gary Ablett jnr 8
Mark O’Connor 7
Jake Kolodjashnij 6
Jack Steven 5
Esava Ratugolea 1
Collingwood 2.2.14
Brodie Grundy 41
Jordan De Goey* 35
Brody Mihocek 35
Scott Pendlebury 32
Taylor Adams 30
Adam Treloar 29
Tom Phillips 27
Chris Mayne 22
John Noble 18
Travis Varcoe 17
W. Hoskin-Elliott 16
Josh Daicos 15
Callum Brown 13
Atu Bosenvulagi 12
Jack Crisp 11
Brayden Maynard 11
Isaac Quaynor 10
Darcy Moore 10
Jamie Elliott 9
Jordan Roughead 9
Jaidyn Stephenson 3
Rupert Wills 2
Thanks Lisa.
SC relevant scores @ QT:
CATS
Danger – 20
Simpson – 12
Menegola – 11
Steven – 6
PIES
Grundy – 49
Pendles – 38
Treloar – 34
Noble – 21
Bosenvulagi – 14
Crisp – 13
Maynard – 13
Yeah, you too GD. Thanks
Oh ffs, Simpson. When no one knew who you were last week you sailed to 112, now when I bring you in you’re feeling more of a 12 closing in on half time?
Tremendous…
U not alone GD
Lol
Might get dropped next week
Should still get 50k price rise
Hey GD
I just had to pass on Simpson.
He really just came from no where.
Stevens in, made me extra nervous.
I paid the bit more for M Hibberd. Proven numbers at VFL.
Named in the guts and no Bye in the next fixture.
I still may go Rankine as well.
I need something to right this season.
Sorry to “go” right this season 😉
Half Time – Pies by 18 points, Grundy on fire!
Geelong – 1.3.9
P. Dangerfield 64
Mark Blicavs 51
Gryan Miers 48
Luke Dahlhaus 47
Jordan Clark 43
Jed Bews 43
Cameron Guthrie 40
Gary Ablett jnr 39
Brandan Parfitt 37
Zach Tuohy 37
Darcy Fort 30
Sam Menegola 30
Jack Henry 29
Tom Hawkins 27
Gary Rohan 26
Jack Steven 25
Harry Taylor 24
Sam Simpson 20
Esava Ratugolea 19
Mark O’Connor 16
Joel Selwood 11
Jake Kolodjashnij 3
Collingwood 4.3.27
Brodie Grundy 95
Adam Treloar 76
Taylor Adams 75
Jordan De Goey* 72
Jack Crisp 66
John Noble 53
Scott Pendlebury 51
Tom Phillips 50
Josh Daicos 49
Chris Mayne 45
Callum Brown 43
Brayden Maynard 41
Brody Mihocek 41
Rupert Wills 36
Travis Varcoe 36
Isaac Quaynor 33
Darcy Moore 32
Atu Bosenvulagi 23
Jamie Elliott 20
W. Hoskin-Elliott 19
Jaidyn Stephenson 17
Jordan Roughead 11
Traded out Noble last week for Maynard, nice Lol
VC on Grundy
Loopholing noble by the looks of it
Happy camper @ the moment
Just need Rankine to fire
HOW BLOODY GOOD IS MAYNARD!?
Another 5 goal 1/2
Don’t think too many players would be passing the skin fold test after the lockdown ended
Anybody’s flag
How in God’s name is Danger on 64 going at 35% efficiency?
Is dangerfield playing .
Someone who loves stats needs to analyze the number of rookies who pump out a monster score in their first career match and then fail to back up.
I always remember from previous years not to chase after rookies until 2 games all due to this. Learn from many rookies their 1st game is likely a one off after seeing their 2nd
Simpson has been around for a few years, has played 6 games since 2017. Hasn’t done much, never got a lot of love from me during my rookie reviews.
But did I get him? You bet.
Should hold his spot now that the cats have injuries
Beware the Josh Glen rule…… that’s all I’ll say
I was avoiding Simpson, but needed to bring him due to doughnuts. Don’t tell me I had the right intentions but was forced into the wrong ones…….
And of course not long after saying that he kicks a goal.
Sorry mate, I wasn’t questioning Simpson, I was just thinking how many times players have played a great match and then fallen flat, often getting dropped in a week or two. Simpson looks a handy selection for cash generation – should go 60+
You don’t need to be sorry, you’ve done nothing wrong as I wasnt writing in response to you
Happy with my last minute Nat Fyfe > Taylor Adams trade right now.
Geelong have 2 off now so Simpson will star
That must be the thing he needs to do well. 2 injuries each week and he sparks. So who are the 2 that go down next week for him?
Helps his JS!
Jack Stephen looks so far out of touch out there
Still Getting over being knifed
Vic teams playing more games on harder grounds
Recon the vic teams will be managing their guns going fwd
SC teams are going to need depth
So free kicks tonight: Fair or not?
Collingwood got a lot of soft frees. Geelong got a few late, maybe they were trying to even it up?
Take nobles 60
or play starcevich
Take Simpson’s 75
Or play picket
These are the sort of questions that made me write that article on loopholes. Don’t you have a limit on what is considered a lock for rookies scores?
Nato: what’s wrong with you, people!?!
I feel you, Nato. 60’s the pass mark for me.
Great article btw.
Thanks GD!
I found it rather interesting to understand how many coaches operate. I was sort of hoping Grundy to score 130 tonight as it would have left a really interesting decision for many as Neale could be tagged but Gawn playing McEvoy. Would have been a great to see the different outcomes
Sorry mate
I missed that writeup
If I had a limit it would probably be 85 & I have to calculate my other rookie loophole scores
Venue opponent role etc
Although I usually get it totally wrong
Don’t worry about not reading it, but 85 is quite a large score for a rookie, I must say.
You aren’t going to see many rookies make the tonne, but it isn’t a surprise when they don’t do much for the game and struggle to make 50.
When comparing likely risk v reward it can help you set a reasonable limit, as a score of 40 isn’t giving much risk, but 85 not much reward is likely for the amount of risk
85 seems huge for a rookie to not pass on, especially when their averages are usually sub 60. I’d be taking the 75. Points in the bank.
Gotta bank the 75 mate
FULL TIME – Magpies by 22 points, Treloar, De Goey & Grundy huge
Geelong 5.5.35
P. Dangerfield 124
Cameron Guthrie 116
Zach Tuohy 88
Sam Menegola 78
Tom Hawkins 78
Mark Blicavs 78
Sam Simpson 76
Harry Taylor 71
Gary Ablett jnr 68
Jack Steven 67
Luke Dahlhaus 66
Brandan Parfitt 64
Jack Henry 63
Gary Rohan 62
Jake Kolodjashnij 61
Gryan Miers 59
Jordan Clark 56
Darcy Fort 55
Mark O’Connor 54
Jed Bews 53
Esava Ratugolea 47
Joel Selwood 10
Magpies 8.9.57
Adam Treloar 152
Jordan De Goey* 150
Brodie Grundy 141
Taylor Adams 137
Jack Crisp 113
Brayden Maynard 97
Scott Pendlebury 95
Chris Mayne 90
Tom Phillips 90
Isaac Quaynor 83
Callum Brown 80
Darcy Moore 79
John Noble 62
Josh Daicos 62
W. Hoskin-Elliott 61
Rupert Wills 54
Jamie Elliott 53
Jordan Roughead 49
Brody Mihocek 47
Travis Varcoe 44
Jaidyn Stephenson 36
Atu Bosenvulagi 31
With a BE of -61 and a score of 76 can someone tell me exactly what price Simpson will be next week? I believe he will be roughly 195k?
I don’t know this years magic number.
My estimate is 185,600 it’s about $445 per point, I think
Events that go down in history
22nd of November 1963 JFK assassinated.
2nd of November 2005 Makybe Diva wins three straight Melbourne cups
16th of July 2020 Scott Pendlebury drops a mark!!
I can’t believe this guy isn’t scoring 140 every round he gets 25 quality positions every week and seems to only be scoring in the 90s I don’t understand the scoring these days.
He is one of my two most fav non bomber players, the other being Cripps….and I hate anything starting with C !!!
Joestar.
You forget…
R21 2000 The Demolition Derby.
Fremantle 42 points behind, 6 minutes into the 3rd quarter.
Step up ….Clive Waterhouse.
Seven magnificent goals ( and three Brownlow votes )
Fremantle win by a point !
Seemingly minor issue but SCT and a number of other footy sites are spelling Bosenavulagi’s name incorrectly, missing the ‘a’ between the ‘n’ and the ‘v’
I would like to know the time on ground for Noble in the second half.
Tearing it up at half time with 52 but didnt see him hardly in the second half and consequently only 10 more points
According to the AFL app Noble spent 91% TOG in the 3rd and 78% TOG in the final quarter.
In the 3rd he had 5 disposals with 4 being HB’s and the 4th he had 0 influence on the game with 0 possessions/tackles etc.
probably just got tired