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The Captaincy Loophole

by Motts on March 19, 2011

OK so you’ve got your team settled. That’s good. Now for your next big decision: are you going to exploit the loophole that allows you to change your captain on Friday next week by naming one of the Carlton or Richmond superstars as your vice-captain on Thursday night?

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Happy Go Lucky March 19, 2011 at 12:49 pm

I’m running with Goddard @ this stage.

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 1:07 pm

Gibbs for mine, with Goddard as VC.

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Happy Go Lucky March 19, 2011 at 1:16 pm

I presume that your logic is that if Gibbs doesn’t score big you swap over to Goddard. I have that option, or could go Delidio -I wont.

Do you think that the news that Judd is prepared to miss Rd 21-ish for the birth of his daughter, coupled with the bye, now make him someone to steer clear of?

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm

In short, yes. As much as I love him, yes.

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Juddlow express March 19, 2011 at 1:11 pm

how does it work again?
do u name a vc as a carlton player and captian a bench and then change it?

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PA March 19, 2011 at 1:18 pm

Don’t select an Captain at all to start with, then select a Blues/Tiges player as you’re VC.

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Deano March 19, 2011 at 1:52 pm

You have to select a Captain – it won’t let you not have one. The idea is to select a Blue or Tiger (HAHA) as VICE Captain and someone not playing as Skipper. Then if your VC kills it you can pick someone who is not going to play on the W/E as your C, alternatively if your VC spuds it you can revert to Gods/Swanny etc.
Be careful about picking your “dummy C” that you think won’t play though as if he’s a late change in then you will get his score doubled.
eg: I will have Juddy as VC, and McCaulay as C. If Juddy kills Macca will retain the C, if not Gods gets it.

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PA March 19, 2011 at 2:25 pm

You don’t have to select a C, Deano.

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Deano March 19, 2011 at 2:56 pm

You’re right PA my apologies -I remember trying to get my head around this stuff last year as it was a mess. I know that once you’ve selected someone as C (ie: physically clicked on the C icon under the player’s name, then you have to have a C. You can’t “de-select” a C you can only transfer it.
Will have to read up on the rules for not selecting a C (in case there is a default mechanism) as I’m yet to do so however I don’t really see an advantage to not having one (other than the obvious Rd 1)

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Mike March 19, 2011 at 3:06 pm

Deano, if you don’t select a C or VC once the has started, then none of your players get double points, i.e. there is no default mechanism.
The first few rounds of my first SC year provided me with this knowledge.

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PA March 19, 2011 at 3:08 pm

If you don’t select a C or a VC, you won’t have your/you’re :D score doubled for set player.

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Deano March 19, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Where’s Catblitz? I think we need one of his succinct analyses on this!!!! :)

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 3:20 pm

HAAAAAAAAA! Deano.

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Rob March 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm

Cant you just select a Gold Coast Player as C and have an emergency in that position?..

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Jonesy March 19, 2011 at 8:50 pm

Okay I didn’t quite understand this last year and i still don’t.
But does this mean if you use it, you will get a 0 from the captain and therfore only 21 players?

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PA March 19, 2011 at 9:00 pm

It’s quite simple people
Step 1: Select a Blues or Tigers gun as your VC.
Step 2 : Depending on how he performs (if he scores 120+) then put in a GC player and put someone like Goddard on the bench and make him your emg. Or if he has a shocker just select a gun as you’re C.

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Jonesy March 20, 2011 at 11:03 am

Oh ok thanks PA :)

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Zo March 19, 2011 at 1:28 pm

Hi, so given that we can pick a Captain, emergencies etc on Friday for the rest of the weekend…do we still have unlimited trades too? (excepting carlton/richmond players)
Cheers :-)

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Deano March 19, 2011 at 2:15 pm

My understanding with the partial lockout is that you can still make unlimited trades (other than the full Blues/Tigers lists) up until final lockout on Fri night.

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PA March 19, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Correct, Deano.

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 2:34 pm

I stand corrected. Thanks boys.

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Deano March 19, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Yep

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Mike March 19, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Guys, as an avid Tigers fan I’m as self-deprecating as the next person (call it a survival technique if you will). But can we at least wait until the season starts until we lay into ‘em too heavily?

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Sorry Mike. I had a feeling I’d be hearing from you. I’ll modify the post.

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Happy Go Lucky March 19, 2011 at 2:45 pm

Anybody know if there are many Thursday or Monday games fixtured this year? I like Fr-Sun fixturing myself with Sunday night SC scores.

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Thur Mar 24 – Carlton v Richmond
Thurs Apr 21 – Brisbane v St Kilda
Mon Apr 25 – Essendon v Collingwood & Fremantle v Bulldogs
Tues Apr 26 – Hawthorn v Geelong
Thurs Apr 28 – West Coast v Melbourne
Mon May 9 – St Kilda v Carlton
Mon Jun 13 – Melbourne v Collngwood

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Happy Go Lucky March 19, 2011 at 3:20 pm

Rd 5 should be painful. Teams in on thursday, results on tuesday night. Why schedule a game on tuesday night? Then teams in again for thursday game.

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Roo Bloke March 19, 2011 at 3:31 pm

Cause it’s Easter/ANZAC weekend. Mon and Tues are public hols that weekend so it’s perfectly logical to have footy on those days. I’m fairly confident it would be a Tuesday day game day, not night.

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PA March 19, 2011 at 3:02 pm

# April 21, 2011 (Round 5);
- Partial Lockout round (2nd of 3);

# April 28, 2011 (Round 6);
- Partial Lockout round (3rd of 3);

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Deano March 19, 2011 at 3:22 pm

Some nob has pulled out of my SCT league. First in at 349177 (name: Legs Eleven)
Disclaimer: no offence to aforementioned nob if he/she reads this.

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Duck March 22, 2011 at 8:05 am

Gave me a good early morning laugh Deano !

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Roo Bloke March 19, 2011 at 3:38 pm

I’m going to give Gibbs a shot at the double points on Friday night (it was him or Deledio and with an expected Carlton win plus lots of talk in the last few days of Gibbs getting more midfield time he’ll get the VC). If he scores sub 120 (which i expect he will) BJ or Pendles are likely to get the Captain’s armband.

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Happy Go Lucky March 19, 2011 at 4:45 pm

OK. I see the logic.

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Scotty March 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm

I am still unsure as to how this loophole works. Would you named Gibbs as say VC then a bench player as C. Then on the friday you change you C to say Goddard if you are not happy with the score from Gibbs? Is that how it works?

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 5:06 pm

Here’s what I’m doing, and Deano correct me if I’m wrong.
First of all, I’m putting a Gold Coast player on the field somewhere and naming an Emergency in that position that I know will play. Then I’m giving that GC player the captaincy and making Gibbs VC.

After Thursday night, if I’m happy with Bryce’s score (which I probably will be!) I’ll leave the captaincy on the GC bomber. If, in the highly unlikely eventuality, I’m not happy with Gibbsy’s score, I move the C to Goddard.

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Mike March 19, 2011 at 5:19 pm

Hilarious

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Motts March 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm

Who will you be giving the Big C to on that Thursday night, Mikey?

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Mike March 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm

Purely as a result of the continual Richmond jibes besmirching this otherwise useful thread, I’ll be plonking it on Foley. And yes I have Gibbs.

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Roo Bloke March 19, 2011 at 6:22 pm

exactly what my plan is mate … 100% the same

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Deano March 19, 2011 at 8:41 pm

That’s the go Motts.

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Damien March 21, 2011 at 11:27 pm

I understand all that (thanks Motts) but one thing remains unclear.

If I’m not happy with Gibbs score and change the C to Goddard, I then need to get the GC player off the field and replace the rookie… right?

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Motts March 22, 2011 at 12:15 am

Yep. But make someone who’s sure to play the GC player’s Emergency just in case, for whatever reason, you don’t get back in and change it.

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Damien March 22, 2011 at 12:20 am

Got it!

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Max March 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Hey guys some help would be great on my team version 1,000,000,000,000! :p

Goddard, Gibbs, Delidio, Broughton, Grimes, Otten, Heppel
(Lower, Duigan, Stanley)

Swan, Boyd, Boak, JP Kennedy, D. Swallow, Harris
( Bewick, Hibberd, Smith)

Sandi, Cox
( Smith, Tippit (GC))

Reiwoldt, Franklin, Pavlich, Goodes,Petrie, Krakouer, Richardson,

(Mekernan, Darling, Matera)

Feedback would be marvelous :)

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Max March 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm

y thumbs down someone?

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Roo Bloke March 19, 2011 at 6:27 pm

might be ’cause your team’s better than there’s

i’d be pretty happy with this team … personally would change Boak and Boyd but i can see the reasons why you have picked them both.

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NeedHelpWithMyTeam March 19, 2011 at 6:59 pm

I reckon its pretty solid except the mids. Rd 1 especially weak with the GC bye

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PA March 19, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Maybe it’s because you’ve posted in the wrong tread, I don’t give a flying anyway :D.

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Max March 19, 2011 at 7:06 pm

sorry guys bout wrong thread but really desparait

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Roo Bloke March 22, 2011 at 7:41 am

also really ellitarate!!!!

if a red squiggly line comes up under your word, give it the old right click Maxibon and see what it suggests is wrong with the spelling of the word

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Duck March 22, 2011 at 8:07 am

Stop it RB, I shouldn’t laugh that hard this early!

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Roo Bloke March 22, 2011 at 8:10 am

Cheers Duck … i try my best

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JJ March 19, 2011 at 6:32 pm

I dont see the point in this.
Lets say u select gibbs as ur VC, and he plays very well.
does that mean u have to make a spud captain?
if this is the case u will have a doughnut that u couldve prevented…?

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Big Stick March 19, 2011 at 11:12 pm

no, you have someone in the same position as your spud captain that you know will play as emergency

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Roo Bloke March 22, 2011 at 7:44 am

If Gibbs smokes 130 Thus night i’ll be playing Joel Tippett at R2 and have Cox as an emergency

If Gibbs stinks it up with 80 Thus night i’ll give the C to Goddard, Riewoldt, Selwood, Pendles or Sandi

If you don’t think it works JJ then just leave the theory, and us nuts that love these little loopholes will try and eek every last advantage we can over the system

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Nic_Nat_09 March 19, 2011 at 8:45 pm

if you dont understand the loophole its safe to say you shouldn’t use it! lol

how hard is it!

Step 1) Put a gc player on the pitch for one of ur rookies and name him/her as emergency
Step 2) Make the Gc player you placed on the field in step 1 a CAPTAIN
Step 3) pick Foley,Gibbs,Judd,Delidio, Matthew Richardson,Ratten as your VICE CAPTAIN
Step 4) if they score well dont change anything
Step 5) if they score like Relton Roberts make someone who is yet to play like Godds,Swan,Selw,Pendl,Modra, Dunstall, your CAPTAIN

its pretty easy, ur mum could do it!

Sorry im Angry because my dreadlocks are all tangled and I can’t play round 1

:)

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Damien March 21, 2011 at 11:25 pm

Aren’t you missing a step 6?

If they score badly, you make Gods (or other) captain, but you then need to get your GC player of and your rookie back on… right?

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Roo Bloke March 21, 2011 at 11:51 pm

Personally i’m weighing up Royce Hart and Earl Spalding to be my captain selection for Thursday night … leaning towards Earl Spalding

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Motts March 22, 2011 at 12:11 am

You’ve been drinking again, haven’t you, RB.

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Roo Bloke March 22, 2011 at 7:39 am

In the cold light of day i realise the error of my ways … Royce Hart was clearly a nonsense suggestion as my Thursday night vice-captain

… Earl Spalding, you’ve got the VC armband, my team needs you, now go out there and “win one for the gipper”

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Juddlow express March 22, 2011 at 7:29 am

hahahha
What about an X-factor Duigan?

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Max March 19, 2011 at 10:00 pm

Hey guys thoughts on Johncock instead of gibbs since gibb’s finals bye?

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Scatts March 22, 2011 at 8:31 am

is thursday night a partial lockout ? and can you still tweak your side right up to friday night,s full lockout ?

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Motts March 22, 2011 at 8:42 am

Yes

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Scatts March 22, 2011 at 8:45 am

thanks……

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DAZZA March 23, 2011 at 3:35 pm

Ok GuysI will give this cappy loopole 1 more go and if i still dont get it i will go with the norm
here is what i think i should do correct me if im wrong
I make gibbsy my vice put on a gold coast rookie take off goddard make him emergency for the gold coast player . if gibbs plays a blinder then goddard comes in as a normal player .if gibbsy has a stinker , i am allowed to make gods my captain on the friday. is this even close to correct

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PA March 23, 2011 at 3:50 pm

Close but no cigar, if gibbs plays a blinder leave as is don’t bring Godds on , leave him on the pine as the emergency for the GC player.

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DAZZA March 23, 2011 at 3:57 pm

ok i get that. He will come on anyway as GC have a bye BUT IF GIBBSY HAS A STINKER I AM ALLOWED TO MAKE GODS CAP ON THE FRIDAY IS THAT RIGHT

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PA March 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

YES THAT’S CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Damien March 24, 2011 at 12:55 am

So I take my vice captain off and make him a GC player. Then replace a rookie with a spud who won’t play. I make Gibbs a Ruckman and hope he plays a blinder. The rookie who was swapped with a GC player becomes Goddard. Any other rookie who plays crap becomes a Richmond player??

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Deano March 24, 2011 at 1:02 am

Love your work Catblitz!

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Damien March 24, 2011 at 1:16 am

Seriously now, there is an easier way to do this.

1. Name a Vice Captain (e.g Gibbs) for Thursdays game.
2. Don’t name a Captain
3. If VC performs, do nothing
4. If VC doesn’t perform, name a Captain (e.g God) before final lockout.

If you have already named a captain, you can remove this. Here’s how…

1. Remove the player you named as Captain.
2. Temporarily Add another player of equal or less value to replace him.
3. Save your team.
4. Remove the replacement player.
5. Add back your original player
6. Save your team – he shouldn’t be captain anymore.

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footyfan March 24, 2011 at 6:47 pm

Is it possible to see how Yarran goes tonight…..and if he kills it in his “new” role then bring him in after the partial lockout re-opens??
(i’d assume he’d then need to be a non-scoring bench player for this round but also not costing an actual trade at a later stage) or are all Carlton/Richmond players unavailable….????

I don’t have him obv :)

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Paul March 24, 2011 at 6:54 pm

All Carlton / Richmond players unavailable

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Brods March 24, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Name him as an emergency… if he pulls 100 points then swap in one of your Suns and make him your 0 point scorer to take advantage.

I’ve done this with Foley, Yarran and Duigan with the hope that there is no substitutions or injuries.

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Andy B March 24, 2011 at 11:35 pm

With Gibbs getting 133 as my VC which i am happy to double, can someone please reconfirm if:-
A) I can avoid putting in a captain prior to lockout?
B) I start GC player as Captain but Goddard as emergency on bench. Goddard would not now become captain?

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Motts March 24, 2011 at 11:39 pm

(A)
Definitely not (B). Start Goddard and don’t put the (C) on him.

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Roo Bloke March 24, 2011 at 11:44 pm

133pts is something i’ll take for my captain so i will be putting Petrie into R2 and Cox as my R3 emergency. Will make Petrie captain knowing he’ll cop a doughnut, Cox’s score will count and Gibbs’ 133pts is now 266pts!!

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Deano March 24, 2011 at 11:56 pm

Guys.
You just have to not nominate a Captain. If you already have one then trade that player out for another, save your team and then trade the original back in. You will now notice there is no C highlighted.
This alleviates the possibility that a late exclusion will give you a 0 with the Petrie/Stanley etc onfield Captain option and your E covering them. Its not rocket surgery!!!

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derp March 25, 2011 at 8:36 am

if you had Gibbs as your VC last night, you do not need to nominate a C at all this weekend

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footyfan March 25, 2011 at 10:13 am

Ok…. so i had Gibbs last night as VC….I’m happy to take his score…..I also put Smith (GCS) on the ground as Captain and named Sandi as EMG.
Question…
If I remove and then add Smith from my team to un-select a Captain and thus enabling Sandi back on the ground to free up my EMG selection will I get double for Gibbs if I have no Captain selected?

I ask as i’ve had conflicting information saying I need to leave it how I have set it up otherwise my VC does not score double without a C selected in the team….

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DAZZA March 25, 2011 at 12:03 pm

i had gibbsy as my vc last night happy to take the 133 + double as Captain .i had gods on the bench and a gold coast player in the side i will now bring in gods for the GC Player who obviously wont play to be sure name the GC player captain . I am pretty sure this is allowed any one can correct if this is wrong .

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DAZZA March 25, 2011 at 12:20 pm

sorry just realized you cannot have subs as cap so i wont nominate 1 at all just leave gibbsy as vice

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