Who’s In The Gun Right Now

by Motts on April 7, 2010

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Cameron April 7, 2010 at 7:52 am

none of them for me. im getting rid of jackson trengove from defense and will be bringing in alex silvagni. thats my only trade this week. of course im waiting for the team announcements :)

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DK April 7, 2010 at 9:26 am

Wouldn’t Maguire be a better option than him, after all the dockers have St Kilda and Geelong in the following weeks.

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Cameron April 7, 2010 at 9:28 am

yeah i have maguire on the bench already :)

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tdm911 April 7, 2010 at 9:41 am

no trades for me. i have hall, ball and tippett but don’t see the need to get rid of any yet. the season is young and two bad games doesn’t make a season.

adelaide have lost two games so tippett will do doubt improve as they start winning games. ball and hall are still finding their feet in their new teams. i think all three will be ok.

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 9:47 am

Nice to hear from someone else who hasn’t started slamming down the panic buttons just yet.

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MJ April 7, 2010 at 10:00 am

I agree, people are quick to forget, in preseaon
Tippett’s 149
Clark’s 124
Ball’s 132 and 144
Hall’s 115, 108, 101
We know what they’re capable of, keep the faith and save the trades, I’m sure replications of these will be just around the corner :)

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tdm911 April 7, 2010 at 10:01 am

i think you summed it up perfectly in your other post:

“Trades Are Gold. Do not be making any trades this week unless it is absolutely necessary. And 2 substandard rounds does NOT mean it is absolutely necessary.”

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Happy go lucky April 7, 2010 at 10:04 am

I’m not necessarily sure that they are panic buttons that I am pressing, but, just in case they are, I’m taking long, slow, meditative breaths today.

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 10:14 am

I’m expecting everybody who holds off this week to be thanking me at the end of the season when they have two trades left to replace the 0′s that would have been on their field in the grand final.

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TeamStillNeedsWork April 7, 2010 at 10:27 am

So definitely no trades for you this week Motts?

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 10:42 am

I don’t think so, mate. The only ones I would consider are Clark and Tippett and they’re both healthy and capable of a hell of a lot better.

I’m also looking at the first opponent in my primary league (the one I’ve paid an entry fee for – not the League of Extraordinary Coaches) and he’s made the ridiculously, breathtakingly audacious move of slotting six (6) rookies into his midfield. He’ll be a handful later on but right now I should be able to take him without breaking a sweat.

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 11:10 am

i’ve been looking at my opponent to and he has a lot of overpriced players meaning he has a lot of rookies in the forward, mid and especially the defence

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TeamStillNeedsWork April 7, 2010 at 11:20 am

Couldn’t reply to your below comment. 6 rookies!! Wow. Barlow, Shuey, Trengrove, Martin, Bastinac and Banner?

Anything could happen with that lot! His forward line and backline must be stacked!

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TeamStillNeedsWork April 7, 2010 at 11:21 am

Dont know what i’m talking about! put it exactly where i wanted it! :)

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 11:21 am

I reckon I’ll be looking at the Seaby trade next week anyway, but with significantly reduced profit.

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Deano April 8, 2010 at 2:02 am

Motts

Are U in any of Walesey’s TS leagues?

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Motts April 8, 2010 at 5:30 am

1. I don’t know who/what a Walesey is.
2. I don’t know what TS stands for.

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 10:13 am

Right now, Tippett is a forward who can’t mark or a ruck who gets soundly beaten.

If I was his real coach, I’d be excited about his potential and confident he’ll come good by Round 7 and lead the Crows towards the 8. But I’m not. And I’m not going to carry his sub-50 ass through 5 or 6 rounds and watch his price plummet.

Come team announcements, he’s gone. Seaby’s in.

That’s not rocket surgery.

Hall is the tricky one. Barry, Barry, Barry. He’s on tender-hooks.

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JB April 7, 2010 at 12:28 pm

It’s not brain science either :)

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Grimmo April 7, 2010 at 2:21 pm

Dont poke a gift horse in the mouth with a stick

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 11:28 am

I’ll start a new comment thread. Sorry, when I said he had 6 rookies, I meant he has 6 rookies ON THE FIELD and another 2 on the bench so all up he has 8 in the midfield. They are: Barlow, Connors, Martin, Shuey, Banner, Trengove, Moles, and Scully. All have played and all bar Scully (42) are averaging above 50 a game.

He has another 4 rookies in his team to make a total of 12 and according to Psyche Out he has $1.6m in the bank! As I said, he’s going to be a freaking handful later on, I’m just thanking the SC Gods that they’ve scheduled our match-up in R4.

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 11:30 am

And if you’re reading this Foisy, a big shout-out to your Richmond loving ass!!

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dunx April 7, 2010 at 1:46 pm

hey motts what do you think id be better off doing
trading out tippett for mummy then ill have 150k in the bank and using that to trade ball out of the mids for a top gun mid
or trading BBB, ziebell or warren out of the forwards for a more consistant performer
or better off not trading at all this week ??

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 2:00 pm

To paraphrase John Lennon: “all we are saying, is give Tippy a chance”. 2 bad games doth not a bad season make.

If I haven’t talked you out of trading yet though, consider this pearl of wisdom that came from a very knowledgeable, SC-loving friend of mine I had lunch with today after I told him I had Naitanui in the ruck: don’t pick back-up ruckmen. So my advice to you is: if you’re going to trade for a Sydney ruckman, get Seaby.

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dunx April 7, 2010 at 2:13 pm

haha well my faith in tippett has taken a huge hit but because im a crows fan and there playing the dees this week im going to leave him in.

also what do you reckon on luke ball just taking time to find his feet or will his disposal let him down this year ??

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Never got on the Ball train but the advice remains the same. Give him more than 2 weeks.

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Adam April 7, 2010 at 3:48 pm

How is old Foisy going? I heard about his midfield from Don V. Should be interesting come mod season as you say Motts.

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 3:56 pm

Haven’t seen him since before Xmas, Adam, but haven’t heard anything to suggest he’s anything other than great. Been chatting to him today over email about his team and of course stocks.

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jd April 7, 2010 at 11:44 am

I’m going to trade hall > ballantyne , tippett > brown. Brown will be too damn expensive otherwise. My team isn’t scoring well enough and I see those two as the major under achievers crippling my forward line output and losing me money. I realise that trades are finite but look at it this way; I was never going to keep tippett all season, but Brown will be up there alongside Riewoldt till the end (barring injury, of course). Hall was a gamble who isn’t paying off. Ballantyne is a forward line cash cow. I see it as a win/win.
And, next time Brown demolishes the blues I won’t feel so goddamn awful about it.

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peter April 7, 2010 at 12:00 pm

I have made my 2 trades already, but didnt trade last week and doubt i will trade next week so 18 trades left will see me through any injuries throughout the year.

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 12:04 pm

Care to reveal to the world who you’ve kicked out and brought in?

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peter April 7, 2010 at 12:24 pm

booted Rhys Shaw and Paul Medhurst
brought in Malceski and JB

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peter April 7, 2010 at 12:31 pm

I figured that it was worth swapping Shaw for Malceski, not only because he isnt performing but also because I was a bit too heavy in defence with GODDARD, ENRIGHT , SHAW R, SHAW H, and HODGE and KENNELLY so thought the money could be spent elsewhere ala J. BROWN in for Medhurst (my forwards looked a bit weak! but Brown definetly strengthens it up)

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 12:03 pm

Motts i’m thinking of making a risky trade, if it pays off i’ll look like a genius but if it doesn’t i will probably crash and burn

BBB out, Pettered in

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 12:06 pm

He looked good last week against the Pies, s4. And he would certainly be a differentiator. DPP that’s reasonably cheap ($367k) with an 89 average. Looks like an inspired choice!

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 12:07 pm

yeah considering i go for the dees

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 12:11 pm

I’m sorry about that.

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 12:13 pm

i don’t know wat went wrong a few years back i was watching them play freo in a n EF and they were leading then they suddenly stop playing well and thats continued for the past 3 or so years

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 12:15 pm

it’s settled tomorrow night i’m going to take hall out for Pettered

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 12:28 pm

motts i have another issue because of S.Stevens being injured last week from concussion (he will probably be back this week) if he is named should i put Silvagni back on the bench after his steller performance or leave Stevens on the bench

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 1:13 pm

I’d go S Stevens. You don’t know if Silvagni’s effort was “one-out-of-the-box”

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 1:53 pm

k thanks motts and plus freo are playing geelong while adelaide are playing the dees

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Td April 7, 2010 at 12:29 pm

Is it worth 1 trade trading Ball out for Cooney?
Is Ballantyne or Dangerfield better or even Ebert?
Is Tippet/Hall worth keeping?
Is it worth 1 trade trading Hille out for Seaby?

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peter April 7, 2010 at 12:38 pm

Ill answer this Td:
1. YES (Cooney is a proven genuine star, Ball is Not as yet)
2. DANGERFIELD (has more potential – as seen on the weekend)
3. TIPPET – NO/ HALL – YES (better value out there than Tippett and he’s playing in a crap team)

4. NO – Hille will come around

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TeamStillNeedsWork April 7, 2010 at 12:38 pm

All good questions Td – to be honest its all up to you I reckon mate. They all sound good on current form. But in 4 weeks from now Ball might be playing like a gun and Cooney like a little ginger school girl. Same with tippet and hall. Either could explode at any time and get huge scores. I guess any trades you do now are really all about getting on someone before their price explodes (eg Barlow)

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Ben April 7, 2010 at 12:36 pm

What do people think of this:
I am considering taking out Clark for Seaby now – yes he may improve (as a Lions Supporter, I certainly hope so!!) – but if Seaby keeps his value up, I can trade for Clark/Sandilands – whichever I feel is better after rounds 12 or so – if Clark improves again it’ll cost me two trades but should make some money off of it, but if he doesn’t then I have Sandilands (was considering starting with Sandialands and Seaby, went with Clark, Hille instead.
I am likewise ready to pounce on Tippett/Cox from Hille if/when they improve.

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Stevo April 7, 2010 at 12:50 pm

I love reading all these people wanting or thinking of trading Ball, Hall and Tippett… they were always going to be risks IMO and everyone fell into the going well in preseason stat.
Ball especially he is a proven non supercoach performer but everyone seems to have fallen for him AGAIN! He use of the football is terrible which is no good in supercoach.
Tippett is going to be a good player but is still raw and too inconsistent IMO, not ready to whip the supercoach world into a frenzy just yet.
I guess Hall was the one that at the price you had to try and capitlize from, stick with him I’d say and hope that he improves but he isn’t going to average 100 for you if that’s what you were hoping.

Ball = gone
Tippett = Keep (only because why waste a trade so early on) and DPP
Hall = keep, hopefully he’ll come good and make you a little cash and later in the year you can move him on.

Remember trades are to be used very wisely at this time of year no knee jerk reactions…

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Stevo April 7, 2010 at 1:02 pm

Not to keen on using a trade just yet but there is one (and only one) that I am considering,
Brent Harvey OUT, Jono Brown IN

Did Harvey have a real bad one or at 32 has the game caught up with him and he is no longer the player he once was and currently big JB is at the peak of his powers and with this sort of form we won’t see his price stay anywhere that level for the rest of the year.

Thoughts???

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peter April 7, 2010 at 1:54 pm

Boomer is a GUN! and will bounce back with a 150+ this week

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 2:31 pm

Boomer is past it. He will be reduced to a tagging role for the remainder of the 2010 season if his new coach has enough influence on the team to achieve a sensible result. He is a good tagger, but the Roos need to work on its other mids and use Boomer for what he is still ok at – nullifying a star.

Johno Brown will win the Brownlow and the Coleman this year. Put $20 on that and thank me later.

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peter April 7, 2010 at 2:36 pm

I think a couple of blokes named Riewoldt and Ablett may have something to say about that!

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peter April 7, 2010 at 2:38 pm

Thats funny that you have decided he is past it after one bad game!, I remember J. Brown putting in a SC score of around 30 last year but was he past it? Boomer did score over 100 in Round 1.

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 4:32 pm

It’s not just me – it’s Gerard Healy, Steven Quartermain, Malcolm Blight and James Hird. I watched all of the commentary shows over the weekend and they all agreed Harvey should have been pushed into a tagging role for that game, and comments were made by some of them that he should be considered in that role from now on because his leg speed and skills aren’t what they used to be.

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 4:37 pm

As for the Brownlow…. http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/brown-approaches-the-throne-of-king-carey-20100403-rkyf.html

Even umpires read the paper. And they can see it better than ever thanks to their new sponsor!

The Coleman is definitely up in the air (obviously), but I’m comfortable with my call. Brown for the Coleman and the Brownlow.

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Rupoj April 7, 2010 at 2:07 pm

Wait.. so does the first price changes occur after this round of games? I’m a little lost about this.. anyone care to explain?

Thanks :)
Poj

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 2:09 pm

As a player, your first price change occurs after you’ve played 3 games so for the majority of players that will be this week.

For Mark McVeigh, if he doesn’t play this week and comes back and plays Rounds 4 and 5, it won’t be until after Round 5 because he missed the first week through suspension. By that time a good performing rookie will have had 2 price rises. Is anyone else thinking what I’m thinking?

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 2:13 pm

i’m thinking of jumping of Symes when he’s back and fit

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peter April 7, 2010 at 2:19 pm

Motts… I am thinking what your thinking and I like IT!!!!

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peter April 7, 2010 at 2:20 pm

This just in…. Shaun Burgoyne too return this week for the hawks!!!!

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ssss April 7, 2010 at 2:20 pm

*on symes

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peter April 7, 2010 at 2:22 pm

Mmmmmm… I wonder if Barlow’s price will go up to $388,000

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 2:44 pm

I wouldn’t rush in to trading Barlow. Even at 388, he’ll be valuable I reckon.

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 2:37 pm

Brennan (next week) or Byrnes now? Put the trade/don’t trade debate aside for now and gimme your thunking on the players emselves. :)

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peter April 7, 2010 at 2:40 pm

Their both shit!

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Spooner April 7, 2010 at 4:28 pm

Brennan will be released into the midfield this year. Two performing ruckman (yes, Clark is a permorming ruckman even though his SC scores are scummy) means he doesn’t need to pinch-hit in the ruck as he did last year, reducing his ability to float at the back of the pack and scoop up the loose ball. Power is conserving his legs a little more and I reckon will be a small forward next year, meaning this is Brennan’s big chance to become Brisbane’s premium mid.

Byrnes could well be a surprise package. I agree, he’s risky. Chappie and Johnson are their best small forwards, but Byrnes has to be right up there I reckon. He has won the last 2 games for them…

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Jamie April 7, 2010 at 4:54 pm

Barring any injury concerns before the weekend, i’ve decided to trade Tippett for Kreuzer as my number one ruck. Thoughts anyone??

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Kitten April 7, 2010 at 5:26 pm

My thoughts are I am making the same trade. Team is doing alright, have scored 2270 and 2040 but Tippett is killing me. I know he is healthy but I don’t want his price to plummet. I will also trade to get Barlow in, too much of a cash cow to miss out on. I’ll make 2 trades this week, first ones for the year, and then hope to be able to sit back for a few weeks. Most of the bench are firing which is great.

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Rick April 7, 2010 at 5:46 pm

Any mileage in the Tippet knee injury rumour?

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Motts April 7, 2010 at 7:31 pm

Source?

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Happy go lucky April 7, 2010 at 7:35 pm

I have heard that his knee has been managed since the pre season, but, I cannot find anything concrete to back that up….

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Rick April 7, 2010 at 8:52 pm

Don’t have a concrete source either, just a rumour I’ve heard.

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Angelo April 8, 2010 at 1:02 am

On the adelaide news tonight they said that Tippet is struggling with knee tendonitis and it will b something he has to work his way through for the season. No mention of him missing any games at this stage of the year .

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Motts April 8, 2010 at 5:33 am

Thanks for the update, Angelo. You’ve just made my decision for me. Tippett: gone.

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Paul Aufiero April 8, 2010 at 7:40 am

Who’s coming in Mottsy ? Heath Undies or Dangerman.

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Motts April 8, 2010 at 8:01 am

Very heavily leaning towards Dangers right now but being a Blues man I can’t not give consideration to Houla. Will wait until tomorrow before I make a decision.

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