Carlton v Essendon at Ikon Park, 6.40pm AEDT
LATE CHANGES
Carlton: Nil
Essendon: Nil
CARLTON
B: K.Simpson 6, L.Plowman 20, L.Jones 14
HB: M.Murphy 3, J.Weitering 23, D.Cuningham 28
C: J.Garlett 21, P.Dow 2, N.Newman 24
HF: S.Walsh 18, M.McGovern 11, C.Curnow 30
F: S.Petrevski-Seton 5, H.McKay 10, C.Polson 29
Foll: A.Phillips 34, P.Cripps 9, E.Curnow 35
I/C: D.Thomas 39, Z.Fisher 25, W.Setterfield 43, J.Silvagni 1, M.Gibbons 40
Notable absentees: Sam Docherty, Alex Fasolo, Matthew Kreuzer, Caleb Marchbank, Matthew Kennedy, Levi Casboult, Hugh Goddard, Darcy Lang, Jarrod Pickett, Tom Williamson, Liam Stocker
ESSENDON
B:P.Ambrose 29, M.Hartley 36, J.Long 34
HB:A.Francis 10, M.Hurley 18, A.Saad 42
C:D.Heppell 21, K.Langford 4, Z.Merrett 7
HF:D.Shiel 9, M.Brown 28, D.Zaharakis 11
F:J.Stringer 25, J.Daniher 6, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti 43
Foll:Z.Clarke 20, A.McGrath 1, D.Parish 3
I/C:C.McKenna 45, T.Jok 46, S.McKernan 44, J.Ridley 14, M.Guelfi 35, J.Laverde 15, D.Smith 5, M.Baguley 12
Emerg:J.Stewart 17, S.Draper 38, T.Mynott 39, D.Clarke 37
Notable absentees: Martin Gleeson, Cale Hooker, Tom Bellchambers, Orazio Fantasia, David Myers, Matt Dea
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I have the VC loophole on Zerrett tonight……. Oh wait it’s still a few weeks early
Luckily for you, he looks very rusty
Dare you to leave it on him (smiley face)
Will Zac Clarke become a must have? Time will tell.
Gibbons 2 goals to start off the match :O
Charlie Curnow causing a real scare, going down grabbing behind his knee. Looks just like a cramp and thankfully he isn’t too relevant, but still a scare nonetheless.
Not relevant unless your a Carlton supporter
Dam Cripps looks like he is playing against under 10 kids…. Walsh worth’s the extra $$$?? Looking good right now!
I’m liking Newman on 13 disposals with 12 kicks at 85 DE% with 6 marks. Sitting on 60 DT points. Can’t get any SC points atm
Walsh looks really good but I hope he’s not Brayshaw 2.0. Setterfields a lock.
I said if McGrath posted a 120 in jlt I’d highly consider him due to his low ceiling. I didn’t mean over 2 games.
I don’t think there’s much to take out of any of the Bombers performances tonight, they just look like they’re going through the motions trying to get through the game, it’s very hot out there. Carlton on the other hand seem to have a lot of players looking to impress and cement a spot in the round 1 side.
He certainly came good in the 2nd half !
Well looks like Sam is an absolute lock! now to find some spare fantasy cash :I
Well ive tried not to buy into the Walsh hype all pre season but he just looks so composed and comfortable. Job secruity (tick), opportunities through the midfield (tick), and now his scoring potential looks up there.
Ill still wait until the second JLT and round 1 for a final decision but his making it hard to turn down thats for sure.
Can’t wait for every man and his dog to have Nic Newman as well after one JLT performance tonight 😉
if he keeps playing mids he might be worth it! … Will be interesting to see his role …
I’m so conflicted now – do I keep watching this match (only just got home and turned it on anyway! damn work!) – T/U ; Or
Do I turn over and watch survivor – T/D!!
oops – Shiel hobbling off …
If Cripps can cut down his frees against , he could average anything this season !!
Can’t take much for Devon and his midfield role for tonight. Since he spent restricted time on field and did a straight swap for Heppell. Hopefully JLT 2 shows more info
at the moment, I’m leaning a little towards Wingard as starting F3 – but will depend on injury position of him / smith etc and also cash required across the lines …
Wingard is set to miss round one with his calf so you can put a line through him.
cheers Zac – haven’t followed too much this week!!
oh man, what a move by MTW on Newman! Awesome and just burned him!
My thoughts for what it’s worth and yes I know it’s only one game Cripps a superstar a lock for vc loopholed for skipper
McGrath can become D5 or D6 no dramas by seasons end
Gibbons Walsh setterfield cash cows with Walsh potentially m8
Daniher a no just doesn’t do enough
Zerret doesn’t get many contested possessions needs to rack them up to score big only one game I know
Phillips and Zac Clarke a watch same as Cunningham
Simpson and Hurley just so so with the 6-6-6
Just my opinion what do we all think
I thought Danniher did well enough given his injury troubles. Played 3 quarters with the ball down the other end and even spent some time in the ruck which is a good sign for his body. Agree that he’s very awkwardly priced for SC.
Zerrett just came back from an ankle injury so I wouldn’t read too much into his game.
No doubt Daniher is a gun this is just my opinion from a scoach point of view will need to ave 85 to justify buying him
I wonder is Mcgrath can repeat those skills again when Essendon have a full firing midfield. I also wonder how Walsh will go against a full firing midfield too and how much that holds him back or how many more CP’s he can achieve.
If McGrath can ave 90 that will be fine for a D-6 and Walsh only needs to ave 70 to make 150k which is the upgrade target of all rookies imo McGrath was firing and they were all there zerret Heppell Shiel he is a number one pick
Just got back from the game. Full thoughts coming later tonight… but first, I need to sort dinner out.
Completely forgot about Zac Clarke having 15 disposals at 87% DE with 37 hit outs. The ruck opponents were Phillips and Lobbe but the possessions are real positives. The stats say 4 clearances too
The supercoach scores from tonight:
CARLTON
P. Cripps 124
W. Setterfield 113
S. Walsh 102
D. Cuningham 100
N. Newman 97
J. Weitering 92
D. Thomas 88
S. Petrevski 86
A. Phillips 81
E. Curnow 75
Z. Fisher 72
H. McKay 71
M. Gibbons 68
P. Dow 65
K. Simpson 62
C. Curnow 62
M. Murphy 61
J. Garlett 54
J. Silvagni 50
M. Lobbe 43
L. Jones 42
L. Plowman 38
M. McGovern 27
C. Polson 22
A. Schumacher 4
ESSENDON
J. Ridley 97
M. Brown 97
J. Stringer 93
Z. Clarke 89
A. Francis 85
A. McGrath 85
A. McDonald-Tipungwuti 82
M. Hartley 82
C. McKenna 80
A. Saad 79
D. Zaharakis 79
P. Ambrose 72
M. Guelfi 64
M. Hurley 61
J. Long 56
D. Heppell 56
D. Smith 54
D. Shiel 50
D. Parish 44
J. Laverde 41
K. Langford 35
J. Daniher 35
Z. Merrett 27
M. Baguley 25
T. Jok 22
S. McKernan 10
Thanks mate. Do you have TOG figures too? Think Merrett played only 20-25mins.
Merret had 45 mins TOG
Thanks pickle
Thats 36% for those playing along at home.
Cheers, Ben! Legend!
Just filling in my spreadsheet then I’ll get to chattin’…
TOG Percentages to go with those scores:
Patrick Cripps 86
Sam Walsh 80
Nic Newman 87
Zac Fisher 77
Will Setterfield 73
Dale Thomas 74
Marc Murphy 72
Ed Curnow 80
David Cuningham 74
Andrew Phillips 60
Sam Petrevski-Seton 78
Michael Gibbons 81
Paddy Dow 70
Jacob Weitering 89
Kade Simpson 87
Jarrod Garlett 77
Jack Silvagni 73
Harry McKay 89
Matthew Lobbe 38
Cameron Polson 74
Charlie Curnow 36
Liam Jones 86
Lachie Plowman 89
Mitch McGovern 59
Angus Schumacher 13
Lochie O’Brien 0
Andrew McGrath 77
Zac Clarke 88
Jordan Ridley 77
Michael Hartley 84
Mitch Brown 87
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti 78
Jake Stringer 72
Matt Guelfi 75
Adam Saad 85
Dylan Shiel 51
Michael Hurley 85
David Zaharakis 86
Kyle Langford 77
Conor McKenna 60
Aaron Francis 73
Jayden Laverde 46
Patrick Ambrose 80
Dyson Heppell 39
Devon Smith 48
Jake Long 76
Darcy Parish 70
Joe Daniher 56
Shaun McKernan 46
Mark Baguley 86
Tom Jok 59
Zach Merrett 36
Well, that was surprisingly intense for a JLT game. Then again, these are two teams that absolutely hate each other, so maybe it isn’t that surprising.
And now, some observations:
* Both teams were intent on playing fast, attacking football. This new style let Carlton kick 100 points for the first time in a couple of years, so that’s a good sign. Both teams – especially Essendon – went into kick-mark mode in the second quarter, and, for a little while, the scoring dried up. It was very hot, and quite humid, so that might have been a factor in the game slowing down for a little while. More likely, though, is that it was the coaches wanting to tighten things up after a frenetic, free-scoring opening quarter. Which ultimately leads me to a point I’ve made a couple of times before: it’s the coaches, not rule changes, that drive the style in which the game is played.
* Continuing on from that last point, I said last week that 6-6-6 and the new kick-in rules hadn’t noticeably affected the game. That was still the case tonight. I think of all the rule changes, the one that might have the biggest effect on the game is that the umpires are now much more inclined to pay a free-kick for off-the-ball scuffles. This is not to say this will affect the game much, but the other rules will affect it even less.
* Essendon was playing the younger brigade – Parish, McGrath, AMT, and co. – in the midfield, with most of the more experienced mids taking a back-seat, and Merrett and Heppell coming off entirely after half time. This is clearly not how they’re going to do things in the season proper, so for this reason, we shouldn’t draw any conclusions from Essendon’s midfield setup tonight. I suspect a fair few people will be tempted by McGrath’s performance; he was indeed magnificent, but will he still be playing midfield come round 1? Don’t jump on just yet.
* Walsh is magnificent. And he’s worth every cent of the $207,300 he’ll cost your team. Top draft picks over the last few years haven’t been the greatest rookies. I promise you it’s different this time. Pick him
* Setterfield is pretty great, too. If you haven’t already locked him in, do so now.
* Gibbons is interesting. He played very well, but, in contrast to his time in the VFL, he mostly played forward. Now, he’ll play, and, at $102,400, he’ll make plenty of cash. But unless he spends more time in the midfield in JLT2, you might not want to put him on the field.
* SPS (FWD, $364,900), Fisher (FWD/MID, $392,800), Dow (FWD/MID, $323,500), and Cuningham (DEF, $250,100) all had high midfield minutes, and will continue to do so. And they played well, too. If you’re in a draft league, you should definitely bump all four of them up your order a bit. And as cheap forward (or backline, in Cuningham’s case) options in Classic, they’re worth keeping an eye on between now and round 1.
* Hello, Newman! He’s got Docherty’s running/distributing role, he had a ton of the ball, and he’s really cheap. The Phantom declared after the game that he’ll be a top-8 defender, and I agree. You need him.
* Speaking of mid-priced defenders, Weitering (DEF, $354,400) was eye-catching to say the least. As with the quartet I named two points ago, he’s one to bump up the draft order, and watchlist for JLT2.
* In proof that the eye test isn’t everything, Cameron Polson (FWD, $191,800) and Thomas Jok (MID, $117,400) looked lively at times, but scored just 22 points each.
* Jordan Ridley (DEF, $233,100) was in everything for the Bombers. He’s more expensive than your usual rookie, but he’s worth keeping an eye on in JLT2.
* Phillips was the number 1 ruck for Carlton, with Lobbe giving a bit of support, whilst Clarke had the duties for the Bombers. If either Phillips ($278,800) or Clarke ($142,600) could get a sustained run as their club’s no. 1 ruck, they’d be perfect R2s. I’m not sure what the ETA on Bellchambers is, but Kreuzer is expected to be ready for round 1. Neither of them are the most durable players, however, so you never know. Even playing as second-fiddle, Clarke is cheap enough to be a good R3 – he’ll make some cash, and will provide handy bench coverage.
* This has nothing to do with SuperCoach, but I’ve long been critical of Bolton for playing Dale Thomas in the backline, on the grounds that he’s generally been rubbish at it. Today, however, Dale Thomas played an excellent game in the back-half, so credit where it’s due.
* Garlett is still playing in Carlton’s backline, even after last week’s effort. Luckily for both him and the club, he was a lot better at this this week.
* Essendon still has the loudest fans in the AFL. The part of the ground I was sitting in was probably 85 % Carlton, 10 % opposition scouts, and 5 % Essendon, but it didn’t sound that way whenever they kicked a goal!
* Daniher played, but he’s nowhere near 100 % yet.
* As predicted, with Cripps and Fisher back in the middle, Charlie Curnow went back to playing virtually 100 % forward. Jack Silvagni was still getting some midfield minutes, but not enough to suggest he’s going to surge into SuperCoach relevance.
Let me know if you have any questions about the game.
Great write-up TS. Particularly causes me to consider Newman (already have Zerrett, Walsh, Setterfield & Gibbons).
Was anybody being tagged and by whom?
Not that I noticed.
Terrific Salamander, great write up.
Thanks Sal, much appreciated. Another D3 for the books.
What was the deal with Simpson last night? I got excited with the kick in rule, was lookin’ at him for a spot in my defence.
Did he just have an off game or take it easy? Was it the 6-6-6 rule change? Help!
Relax. He’ll be fine. He was similarly quiet in the JLT last year.
In fact, every year, there is a large group of premiums that don’t score that well in the JLT, and everyone jumps off them. Then, come round 1, they’re back to their old (premium) selves. This happens every year! The only reason to take any notice of said scores is if they come about due to a major role change, in which case the question to ask is “will this change carry through to the season proper?”.
Ah, consumer confidence has been restored. Yeah, I understand it’s just two largely experimental and meaningless matches, so you can’t be too fickle- just wanted to be sure.
Cheers, Salamander.